Re: Scroll wheel speed
On 22 Jan 2013 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > In article , >Steve Fryatt wrote: >> On 20 Jan, "Richard Torrens (lists)" wrote in message >> <5310fde37bli...@torrens.org.uk>: >>> The main problem I find is not the speed, but the fact that there is a >>> buffer somewhere that stores scroll clicks, so that scrolling continues >>> after the wheel is stopped. >> That's in RISC OS, and happens when the app doesn't take scroll events as >> quickly as you produce them. See also scrolling via PageUp/Down. > The effect seems much less now than of old. Presumably Netsurf flushes the > buffer when it returns to look at the scroll wheel? That doesn't help either. It's particularly annoying with Edit when you have a cpu-intensive process running in background. Edit jumps one line every time it gets in. With NetSurf it's the opposite. I try turning the scroll wheel very slowly and nothing happens, then slightly faster and it jumps more than a page. > BTW: there seems to be a change recently. I have a Macro inserter and > previopusly User|iPassword|m would enter user and password as it > should. Recent issues (815, 827 - not tried others) do not accept |i as a > TAB. UserPassword is entered in the User box, |i is ignored. I've noticed that recently I've had to log into my forum every session. Previously I stayed logged in using a cookie. The forum scripts haven't changed. Could this be something in NetSurf or could it be caused by some security change on the server. Most of my hosting problems are traced to mod-security settings. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Scroll wheel speed
In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 20 Jan, "Richard Torrens (lists)" wrote in message > <5310fde37bli...@torrens.org.uk>: > > The main problem I find is not the speed, but the fact that there is a > > buffer somewhere that stores scroll clicks, so that scrolling continues > > after the wheel is stopped. > That's in RISC OS, and happens when the app doesn't take scroll events as > quickly as you produce them. See also scrolling via PageUp/Down. The effect seems much less now than of old. Presumably Netsurf flushes the buffer when it returns to look at the scroll wheel? BTW: there seems to be a change recently. I have a Macro inserter and previopusly User|iPassword|m would enter user and password as it should. Recent issues (815, 827 - not tried others) do not accept |i as a TAB. UserPassword is entered in the User box, |i is ignored. -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more!
Re: Scroll wheel speed
On 20 Jan, "Richard Torrens (lists)" wrote in message <5310fde37bli...@torrens.org.uk>: > The main problem I find is not the speed, but the fact that there is a > buffer somewhere that stores scroll clicks, so that scrolling continues > after the wheel is stopped. That's in RISC OS, and happens when the app doesn't take scroll events as quickly as you produce them. See also scrolling via PageUp/Down. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 20 April 2013 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
Re: Scroll wheel speed
On 20 Jan, Richard Ashbery wrote in message <5310f9b9afris...@gotadsl.co.uk>: > In article <2737921053.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter > wrote: > > On most applications, including messenger Pro, the speed of the pointer > > in relation to the scroll wheel on the mouse is just about right, but on > > NetSurf it is much too fast so it's almost impossible to use on long web > > pages. Is there any way to adjust the scroll wheel speed for NetSurf > > independently of the global settings? Mouse movement itself is OK. > > > RiscPC, OS 6.14, NS #822 > > Scroll speed on my Iyonix/BB is perfect especially for long pages. It was > painfully slow on earlier versions. I would certainly not want it going > any slower. IIRC, NetSurf has special-cased scroll wheel support for the different versions of RISC OS, due to differences in the implementations between the systems. When I added support for scrolling the new frames, I tested it on RISC OS 5; I have no access to RISC OS 6, and so am unlikely to ever test the different set of code that gets used on that system. > Unfortunately HID as suggested by John wouldn't work on the RiscPC because > it was designed for the Castle Technology USB stack. Correct. HID also complicates things, as it removes some of the "quirks" of the vanilla RISC OS 5 scroll wheel support. I'm fairly sure that I tested NetSurf with and without HID running, however. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 20 April 2013 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
Re: Scroll wheel speed
In article <5310f9b9afris...@gotadsl.co.uk>, Richard Ashbery wrote: > Scroll speed on my Iyonix/BB is perfect especially for long pages. It > was painfully slow on earlier versions. I would certainly not want it > going any slower. Unfortunately HID as suggested by John wouldn't work > on the RiscPC because it was designed for the Castle Technology USB > stack. The main problem I find is not the speed, but the fact that there is a buffer somewhere that stores scroll clicks, so that scrolling continues after the wheel is stopped. -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more!
Re: Scroll wheel speed
In article <5310f9b9afris...@gotadsl.co.uk>, Richard Ashbery wrote: > Unfortunately HID as suggested by John wouldn't work > on the RiscPC because it was designed for the Castle Technology USB > stack. ... and is not fully ARMv7 so has issues on a BB. -- Chris Johnson
Re: Scroll wheel speed
In article <2737921053.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: > On most applications, including messenger Pro, the speed of the > pointer in relation to the scroll wheel on the mouse is just about > right, but on NetSurf it is much too fast so it's almost impossible > to use on long web pages. Is there any way to adjust the scroll > wheel speed for NetSurf independently of the global settings? > Mouse movement itself is OK. > RiscPC, OS 6.14, NS #822 Scroll speed on my Iyonix/BB is perfect especially for long pages. It was painfully slow on earlier versions. I would certainly not want it going any slower. Unfortunately HID as suggested by John wouldn't work on the RiscPC because it was designed for the Castle Technology USB stack. Richard
Re: Scroll wheel speed
On 19 Jan 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >>> Are you using HID? NetSurf scroll speed on Iyonix is fine with it. >> HID? Sorry that doesn't mean anything to me apart from 'high intensity >> discharge'. > I bought it from RComp some years ago for 15 pounds here is an extract > from the helptext:- > ... > !HID is the front-end for a number of modules that provide low-level > support for USB devices in the HID Class (HID - Human Interface > Devices). ... Thanks for the explanation. No I haven't got !HID. I have WindowScroll but not WimpScroll. I can set the scroll speed globally through !Configure but not for a single task. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Scroll wheel speed
Richard Porter wrote >> Are you using HID? NetSurf scroll speed on Iyonix is fine with it. > HID? Sorry that doesn't mean anything to me apart from 'high intensity > discharge'. I bought it from RComp some years ago for 15 pounds here is an extract from the helptext:- ... !HID is the front-end for a number of modules that provide low-level support for USB devices in the HID Class (HID - Human Interface Devices). The HID Class consists of many input devices, such as keyboards, mice, touch tablets, barcode scanners, joysticks, etc. At the core of this application is the USBHID module that services all HID Class devices directly. It takes away control from the standard USB driver and implements many new features. Some additional modules are provided which will greatly enhance the functionality of the USB sub system. The WimpKey module allows complex actions to be linked to the special keys found on most modern USB keyboards. As most wireless keyboards don't have status LEDs (they would exhaust the battery), a new module, called KeyLEDs is supplied which will add three LEDs to the iconbar. The module WimpScroll allows you to use a wheel mouse to scroll the window under the pointer. Additionally any extra mouse buttons and scroll wheels on some keyboards may be used as well. -- John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/ Encouraged by superficial notions of evolution, Which becomes, in the popular mind, a means of disowning the past.
Re: Scroll wheel speed
On 19 Jan 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Richard Porter wrote >> On most applications, including messenger Pro, the speed of the >> pointer in relation to the scroll wheel on the mouse is just about >> right, but on NetSurf it is much too fast so it's almost impossible to >> use on long web pages. Is there any way to adjust the scroll wheel >> speed for NetSurf independently of the global settings? Mouse movement >> itself is OK. >> RiscPC, OS 6.14, NS #822 > Are you using HID? NetSurf scroll speed on Iyonix is fine with it. HID? Sorry that doesn't mean anything to me apart from 'high intensity discharge'. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Scroll wheel speed
Richard Porter wrote > On most applications, including messenger Pro, the speed of the > pointer in relation to the scroll wheel on the mouse is just about > right, but on NetSurf it is much too fast so it's almost impossible to > use on long web pages. Is there any way to adjust the scroll wheel > speed for NetSurf independently of the global settings? Mouse movement > itself is OK. > RiscPC, OS 6.14, NS #822 Are you using HID? NetSurf scroll speed on Iyonix is fine with it. -- John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/
Scroll wheel speed
On most applications, including messenger Pro, the speed of the pointer in relation to the scroll wheel on the mouse is just about right, but on NetSurf it is much too fast so it's almost impossible to use on long web pages. Is there any way to adjust the scroll wheel speed for NetSurf independently of the global settings? Mouse movement itself is OK. RiscPC, OS 6.14, NS #822 -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Massive improvement in scroll wheel speed
I'm sure most of you will already have downloaded newer versions of the NS test-builds but for those who haven't its worth doing if only for the improvements to the scroll wheel speed. Scrolling is more akin to what one expects in StrongED and EasiWriter. Excellent work Steve. -- Richard Ashbery Wakefield 2012 - Saturday 28th April http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk
