Re: quitting netsurf
On Thu, 16 May 2013 10:07:37 GMT, Tony Moore wrote: > > > #1172 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 26 secs. The closing log is > > > here https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/Log_1172 > > > > Thanks, please try #1175. > > #1175 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 3 secs (even after visiting several > websites). > > Problem solved - many thanks. I must admit I noticed a long time ago that NetSurf took ages to quit, but I hadn't recognised it as an actual problem (I thought it was just saving cookie files, history, etc). It now shuts down the instant I close it, much better! Chris
Re: quitting netsurf
On 15 May 2013, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <1e7e5d4c53.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, >Tony Moore wrote: > > > #1172 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 26 secs. The closing log is > > here https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/Log_1172 > > Thanks, please try #1175. #1175 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 3 secs (even after visiting several websites). Problem solved - many thanks. Tony
Re: quitting netsurf
In article <1e7e5d4c53.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore wrote: > #1172 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 26 secs. The closing log is here > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/Log_1172 Thanks, please try #1175. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: quitting netsurf
On 15 May 2013, Tony Moore wrote: [snip] > #1172 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 26 secs. The closing log is here > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/Log_1172 Another problem with #1172 (and #1125): #417 takes 6 secs to full-save http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page , whereas #1172 takes 33 secs. Could this be related to the delayed quit? Tony
Re: quitting netsurf
On 15 May 2013, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:09:47PM +, Tony Moore wrote: > > > > Probably not. Is your hotlist in the least bit private? If it > > > does not contain private URLs, having a copy (sent directly to me > > > or another developer rather than in the open) would be very useful > > > for diagnosing what it causing the slowness. > > > No problem. I've sent you a copy, off-list. > > Irritatingly this hotlist takes 4ms to save on my laptop (I don't have > a RISC OS box) and I can't spot anything obvious in the hotlist save > path. I've annotated the hotlist save path with some logging and > would appreciate it if you would do the trivial test of loading NS and > quitting it, and then emailing me the log file. Obviously you should > use the latest CI build of NetSurf (#1172 or later). #1172 loads in 16 secs, and quits in 26 secs. The closing log is here https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77062274/Log_1172 Tony
Re: quitting netsurf
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 01:09:47PM +, Tony Moore wrote: > > Probably not. Is your hotlist in the least bit private? If it does > > not contain private URLs, having a copy (sent directly to me or > > another developer rather than in the open) would be very useful for > > diagnosing what it causing the slowness. > No problem. I've sent you a copy, off-list. Irritatingly this hotlist takes 4ms to save on my laptop (I don't have a RISC OS box) and I can't spot anything obvious in the hotlist save path. I've annotated the hotlist save path with some logging and would appreciate it if you would do the trivial test of loading NS and quitting it, and then emailing me the log file. Obviously you should use the latest CI build of NetSurf (#1172 or later). D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
Re: quitting netsurf
On 15 May 2013, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:58:03AM +, Tony Moore wrote: > > The hotlist file size is 93KB, which I would not have thought to be > > extraordinarily large, and, anyway, #417 manages to write it in 3 > > seconds, when quitting, but #1125 takes an order of magnitude > > longer. > > Very interesting. > > > Would logs relating to this different behaviour be useful? > > Probably not. Is your hotlist in the least bit private? If it does > not contain private URLs, having a copy (sent directly to me or > another developer rather than in the open) would be very useful for > diagnosing what it causing the slowness. No problem. I've sent you a copy, off-list. Tony
Re: quitting netsurf
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:58:03AM +, Tony Moore wrote: > The hotlist file size is 93KB, which I would not have thought to be > extraordinarily large, and, anyway, #417 manages to write it in 3 > seconds, when quitting, but #1125 takes an order of magnitude longer. Very interesting. > Would logs relating to this different behaviour be useful? Probably not. Is your hotlist in the least bit private? If it does not contain private URLs, having a copy (sent directly to me or another developer rather than in the open) would be very useful for diagnosing what it causing the slowness. D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
Re: quitting netsurf
On 14 May 2013, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 05:36:29PM +, Tony Moore wrote: > > For each result below, NS was quit, the Log file and Cache deleted, > > NS was loaded, and then quit, without displaying any web pages > > It would be helpful if, in each case, the resultant log file was named > appropriately and put in a folder. > > > For each result below, NS was quit, the Log file and Cache deleted, > > NS was loaded, used to display three web pages. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/ , http://www.theregister.co.uk/ , > > http://www.iconbar.com/ , and then quit > > Ditto. > > And then, that whole folder could be zipped up and popped as an > attachment to a bug report on our Sourceforge project, detailing your > notes about timings and reproduction techniques. > > It would also help if you ran with nothing which would differ from a > totally fresh install. i.e. move your choices, hotlist, urldb etc out > of the way. After hiding choices and hotlist (in addition to the other files noted) the problem goes away. For the record: For each result below, NS was quit, the Log, Cache, Cookies, Hotlist and URL files were deleted, NS was loaded, and then quit, without displaying any web pages version load quitlog secsec KB #417 9 1 14 v3.0 9 1 15 #1125 json 9 1 14 For each result below, NS was quit, the Log, Cache, Cookies, Hotlist and URL files were deleted, NS was loaded, used to display three web pages. http://news.bbc.co.uk/ , http://www.theregister.co.uk/ , http://www.iconbar.com/ , and then quit version load quitlog secsec KB #417 9 1173 v3.0 9 1421 #1125 json 9 1484 I have the relevant logs but, since they record apparently normal behaviour, there seems little point in posting them to Sourceforge. Reinstating my choices file makes little difference to the results, above, but reinstating the hotlist file, causes #1125 quitting to be greatly delayed, as noted in a previous post. The hotlist file size is 93KB, which I would not have thought to be extraordinarily large, and, anyway, #417 manages to write it in 3 seconds, when quitting, but #1125 takes an order of magnitude longer. Would logs relating to this different behaviour be useful? Tony
Re: quitting netsurf
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 05:36:29PM +, Tony Moore wrote: > For each result below, NS was quit, the Log file and Cache deleted, NS > was loaded, and then quit, without displaying any web pages It would be helpful if, in each case, the resultant log file was named appropriately and put in a folder. > For each result below, NS was quit, the Log file and Cache deleted, NS > was loaded, used to display three web pages. http://news.bbc.co.uk/ , > http://www.theregister.co.uk/ , http://www.iconbar.com/ , and then quit Ditto. And then, that whole folder could be zipped up and popped as an attachment to a bug report on our Sourceforge project, detailing your notes about timings and reproduction techniques. It would also help if you ran with nothing which would differ from a totally fresh install. i.e. move your choices, hotlist, urldb etc out of the way. D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
quitting netsurf
For recent versions of NS, as compared with version #417 (9 Oct 2012), the load times are similar, but the quit times are between ten and twenty times greater. For each result below, NS was quit, the Log file and Cache deleted, NS was loaded, and then quit, without displaying any web pages version load quitlog secsec KB #417 14 3 14 v3.0 16 31 14 #1125 jsoff16 31 14 For each result below, NS was quit, the Log file and Cache deleted, NS was loaded, used to display three web pages. http://news.bbc.co.uk/ , http://www.theregister.co.uk/ , http://www.iconbar.com/ , and then quit version load quitlog secsec KB #417 14 3164 v3.0 16 51412 #1125 jsoff16 59411 All tests were made on a RiscPC, running RO 6.20. Since the protracted quit can be a nuisance, when wanting to shut down the machine in a hurry, is there any option which can reduce this time? Tony
