Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 11:01 am, Paul wrote: > On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 03:43, Julie Sloan wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > >>On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: > > >>>On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > > > > > > A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, > > > 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a > > > twinge of worry about his future? > > > > A stupid, arrogant one. And there's them too. :( > > I hope you're not suggesting that someone might go into politics for > reasons other than helping their fellow man (or woman)? > > Shame on you. 8-) Oh, I'm sure they all have helping people in mind. It's *which* people they want to help that varies so drastically. :-\ -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 03:43, Julie Sloan wrote: > Paul wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >>On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: > >>>On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > > > > A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 > > mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge > > of worry about his future? > > > > > A stupid, arrogant one. And there's them too. :( I hope you're not suggesting that someone might go into politics for reasons other than helping their fellow man (or woman)? Shame on you. 8-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? A stupid, arrogant one. And there's them too. :( -- But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we're forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side. -Bob Dylan, 1963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:52, Paul wrote: > A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or > 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't > have a twinge of worry about his future? Thanks for your comments, Paul. I agree completely. Nowadays we've got another, effective weapon : the Internet. Some political parties here wanted to look trendy, so they sat up blogs. This turned out two be a sword with two, sharp sides. By allowing comments from average citizens, they exposed themselves to embarrassing questions and found out they couldn't get away with their usual blabbermouthed gobbledygook. So, lately, they tend to think twice and ask people in the knowing before they answer. Progress, I think. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software > > > patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to > > > the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some > > > focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig > > > Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. > > > > > > The announcement is here (in Danish) : > > > http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 > > > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > Good news, kaj. > > > > Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote > > yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? > > > > If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on > > and started making a fuss. > > No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - > conservative) just voted "yes" in the Politburo, - err - Commission > out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the > first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big > guys. And his "advisers" i.e. the bureaucrats in the public > service know even less. > > Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, > and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on > hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started > a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the > various political parties warning them of losing voters in case > they lost their minds. > > Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online > magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot > brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? > > Kaj Haulrich. Thanks for the information, Kaj, and especially thanks for writing to the politicos. I used to be a member of Amnesty International, and one of their most successful campaign tools were sacks of letter pouring into some third-world country from all over the globe, about some poor sod who'd disappeared into (e.g.) Saddam Hussein's prisons. A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't have a twinge of worry about his future? A techniuq Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:55:48 +0100 Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What on earth makes you think so, Anders ? Can't think of a reason LOL /A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Monday 31 January 2005 18:01, Anders Lind wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:39:36 +0100 > > Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - > > conservative) just voted "yes" in the Politburo, - err - > > Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician > > doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he > > just follows the big guys. And his "advisers" i.e. the > > bureaucrats in the public service know even less. > > > > Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some > > fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland > > put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke > > up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, > > wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of > > losing voters in case they lost their minds. > > > > Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online > > magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot > > brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? > > I am perhaps treading in on MandrakeOT-domains here but I do get > the feeling that the dane doesn't like EU ;o) > > /Anders What on earth makes you think so, Anders ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:39:36 +0100 Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - > conservative) just voted "yes" in the Politburo, - err - Commission > out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the > first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big > guys. And his "advisers" i.e. the bureaucrats in the public > service know even less. > > Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, > and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on > hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started > a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the > various political parties warning them of losing voters in case > they lost their minds. > > Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online > magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot > brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? > I am perhaps treading in on MandrakeOT-domains here but I do get the feeling that the dane doesn't like EU ;o) /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software > > patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to > > the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some > > focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig > > Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. > > > > The announcement is here (in Danish) : > > http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Good news, kaj. > > Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote > yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? > > If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on > and started making a fuss. No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - conservative) just voted "yes" in the Politburo, - err - Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big guys. And his "advisers" i.e. the bureaucrats in the public service know even less. Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of losing voters in case they lost their minds. Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in > Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming > elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the > Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone > the issue, and thus support Poland. > > The announcement is here (in Danish) : > http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 > > Kaj Haulrich. Good news, kaj. Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on and started making a fuss. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. The announcement is here (in Danish) : http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
