Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-10 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 06:54 pm, Scott Mazur wrote:
  You'll have to do your own leg work, it's not part
 of the Mandrake config tools.
sure do wish it would be

 Win-TV GO cards are easily installed and supported well.  Great if you're 
 looking to get TV up on the monitor with a minum fuss (and they're 
 relatively cheap).  I never had much luck capturing anything to file (never 
 tried very hard) but install and config is fully supported in Mdk.
capture works just fine as long as video card support is there, a bttv848 
(regular winTV pci) chip card works 'out of the box' after runing harddrake 
(it will install xawtv, in most recent versions of Mandake)


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Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-10 Thread Mike Adolf
Thanks for the information, it was very helpful.  I think I will go for the
350. If it doesn't work on MDK, I will just use it on my windows XP boot.

Mike
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Subject: Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation


 On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:47:56 -0400, Michael Adolf wrote
  I am ready to purchase a TV Card
 
  Requirements:
  Include cable ready tuner
  have s-video in/out
  accept antenna or cable
  PCI
 
  TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want.  Is this the one to get.
  Any cheaper available.
 
  Recommendations??

 PVR-350 contains an mpeg encoder and decoder hardware.  In other words you
 can capture directly to an mpeg file and save a ton of processing power.
 Likewise you can send an mpeg file directly to the card and get video out.
 Again saving a ton of processing power.

 The catch is support.  PVR-350 output is still bleeding edge.  You won't
 easily find drivers for Mandrake.  The encoder part (capture) is not so
 bleeding edge, but you'll still have trouble finding drivers for Mandrake.
 The 2.6 kernel support is still pretty fresh.

 You can get around the decoder (output) poor support with any number of
 graphic cards that have TV out.  In that case the TV-PVR-250 is a cheaper
 option.  It's exactly the same as the 350, but without the output.  The
PVR-
 250 has been supported in the 2.4 kernel for some time now and near as I
can
 tell, 2.6 kernel support is there too.  (at least that's what I've been
 told, I'm still trying).  You'll have to do your own leg work, it's not
part
 of the Mandrake config tools.

 If you can stand living on the edge, the PVR-350 should be a nicely
 supported hardware before too long, but the card may sit not fully used
 until then.

 In theory, ATI TV Wonder (capture only) cards should be supported, but
I've
 yet to produce proof of that.  Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as
 I've learned).

 Win-TV GO cards are easily installed and supported well.  Great if you're
 looking to get TV up on the monitor with a minum fuss (and they're
 relatively cheap).  I never had much luck capturing anything to file
(never
 tried very hard) but install and config is fully supported in Mdk.

 Other than these I can't comment.

 Scott

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RE: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-09 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Not sure where you are from Mike but if you are in the UK this card is being sold by 
Savastore for 116.33 inc vat bundled with a free Media MVP worth 63.45. It's 
making my money burn a hole in my pocket.

Tony.

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Subject: [newbie] TV Card recommendation


I am ready to purchase a TV Card 

Requirements:
Include cable ready tuner
have s-video in/out
accept antenna or cable
PCI

TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want.  Is this the one to get. Any 
cheaper available. 

Recommendations??

Mike



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Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-08 Thread Guy Rouillier
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:54:50 -0600
Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder
 cards (as I've learned).

Darn, I was hoping to get one of those for the next computer I build. 
No chance of that working under Mandrake, eh?  Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 08 July 2004 07:07 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:54:50 -0600

 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder
  cards (as I've learned).

 Darn, I was hoping to get one of those for the next computer I build.
 No chance of that working under Mandrake, eh?  Thanks for the heads up.

I wouldn't say that.  I've had them and they worked fine.  It probably depends 
on which one you have.  Radeon support is actually pretty good in the xorg 
xserver, so it depends on the tuner chip and if it a bt878 you should be good 
to go.

I personally use a Leadtek Winfast 2000XP.  I had to tweak it a little to get 
it set up since it didn't auto-detect correctly, but ince I got the correct 
module parameters to load, it works fine.

Also, don't count on using the infra-red remotes that come with a lot of 
cards.  There is a project to try and get them going like any other keyboard 
device in X, but it is not ready for prime time.
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[newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-07 Thread Michael Adolf
I am ready to purchase a TV Card 

Requirements:
Include cable ready tuner
have s-video in/out
accept antenna or cable
PCI

TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want.  Is this the one to get. Any 
cheaper available. 

Recommendations??

Mike


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Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-07 Thread Scott Mazur
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:47:56 -0400, Michael Adolf wrote
 I am ready to purchase a TV Card
 
 Requirements:
 Include cable ready tuner
 have s-video in/out
 accept antenna or cable
 PCI
 
 TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want.  Is this the one to get. 
 Any cheaper available.
 
 Recommendations??

PVR-350 contains an mpeg encoder and decoder hardware.  In other words you 
can capture directly to an mpeg file and save a ton of processing power.  
Likewise you can send an mpeg file directly to the card and get video out.  
Again saving a ton of processing power.

The catch is support.  PVR-350 output is still bleeding edge.  You won't 
easily find drivers for Mandrake.  The encoder part (capture) is not so 
bleeding edge, but you'll still have trouble finding drivers for Mandrake.  
The 2.6 kernel support is still pretty fresh.

You can get around the decoder (output) poor support with any number of 
graphic cards that have TV out.  In that case the TV-PVR-250 is a cheaper 
option.  It's exactly the same as the 350, but without the output.  The PVR-
250 has been supported in the 2.4 kernel for some time now and near as I can 
tell, 2.6 kernel support is there too.  (at least that's what I've been 
told, I'm still trying).  You'll have to do your own leg work, it's not part 
of the Mandrake config tools.

If you can stand living on the edge, the PVR-350 should be a nicely 
supported hardware before too long, but the card may sit not fully used 
until then.

In theory, ATI TV Wonder (capture only) cards should be supported, but I've 
yet to produce proof of that.  Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as 
I've learned).

Win-TV GO cards are easily installed and supported well.  Great if you're 
looking to get TV up on the monitor with a minum fuss (and they're 
relatively cheap).  I never had much luck capturing anything to file (never 
tried very hard) but install and config is fully supported in Mdk.

Other than these I can't comment.

Scott

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Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation

2004-07-07 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 12:47 pm, Michael Adolf wrote:
 I am ready to purchase a TV Card

 Requirements:
 Include cable ready tuner
 have s-video in/out
 accept antenna or cable
 PCI

 TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want.  Is this the one to get. Any
 cheaper available.

 Recommendations??

 Mike
don't know about cheaper, (cheap always pays back by failing) but the leadtek 
wintv card is very good IMHO. HTH
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