Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 06:54 pm, Scott Mazur wrote: You'll have to do your own leg work, it's not part of the Mandrake config tools. sure do wish it would be Win-TV GO cards are easily installed and supported well. Great if you're looking to get TV up on the monitor with a minum fuss (and they're relatively cheap). I never had much luck capturing anything to file (never tried very hard) but install and config is fully supported in Mdk. capture works just fine as long as video card support is there, a bttv848 (regular winTV pci) chip card works 'out of the box' after runing harddrake (it will install xawtv, in most recent versions of Mandake) -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
Thanks for the information, it was very helpful. I think I will go for the 350. If it doesn't work on MDK, I will just use it on my windows XP boot. Mike - Original Message - From: Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:47:56 -0400, Michael Adolf wrote I am ready to purchase a TV Card Requirements: Include cable ready tuner have s-video in/out accept antenna or cable PCI TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want. Is this the one to get. Any cheaper available. Recommendations?? PVR-350 contains an mpeg encoder and decoder hardware. In other words you can capture directly to an mpeg file and save a ton of processing power. Likewise you can send an mpeg file directly to the card and get video out. Again saving a ton of processing power. The catch is support. PVR-350 output is still bleeding edge. You won't easily find drivers for Mandrake. The encoder part (capture) is not so bleeding edge, but you'll still have trouble finding drivers for Mandrake. The 2.6 kernel support is still pretty fresh. You can get around the decoder (output) poor support with any number of graphic cards that have TV out. In that case the TV-PVR-250 is a cheaper option. It's exactly the same as the 350, but without the output. The PVR- 250 has been supported in the 2.4 kernel for some time now and near as I can tell, 2.6 kernel support is there too. (at least that's what I've been told, I'm still trying). You'll have to do your own leg work, it's not part of the Mandrake config tools. If you can stand living on the edge, the PVR-350 should be a nicely supported hardware before too long, but the card may sit not fully used until then. In theory, ATI TV Wonder (capture only) cards should be supported, but I've yet to produce proof of that. Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as I've learned). Win-TV GO cards are easily installed and supported well. Great if you're looking to get TV up on the monitor with a minum fuss (and they're relatively cheap). I never had much luck capturing anything to file (never tried very hard) but install and config is fully supported in Mdk. Other than these I can't comment. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
Not sure where you are from Mike but if you are in the UK this card is being sold by Savastore for 116.33 inc vat bundled with a free Media MVP worth 63.45. It's making my money burn a hole in my pocket. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Adolf Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:48 PM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] TV Card recommendation I am ready to purchase a TV Card Requirements: Include cable ready tuner have s-video in/out accept antenna or cable PCI TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want. Is this the one to get. Any cheaper available. Recommendations?? Mike -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:54:50 -0600 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as I've learned). Darn, I was hoping to get one of those for the next computer I build. No chance of that working under Mandrake, eh? Thanks for the heads up. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
On Thursday 08 July 2004 07:07 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:54:50 -0600 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as I've learned). Darn, I was hoping to get one of those for the next computer I build. No chance of that working under Mandrake, eh? Thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't say that. I've had them and they worked fine. It probably depends on which one you have. Radeon support is actually pretty good in the xorg xserver, so it depends on the tuner chip and if it a bt878 you should be good to go. I personally use a Leadtek Winfast 2000XP. I had to tweak it a little to get it set up since it didn't auto-detect correctly, but ince I got the correct module parameters to load, it works fine. Also, don't count on using the infra-red remotes that come with a lot of cards. There is a project to try and get them going like any other keyboard device in X, but it is not ready for prime time. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] TV Card recommendation
I am ready to purchase a TV Card Requirements: Include cable ready tuner have s-video in/out accept antenna or cable PCI TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want. Is this the one to get. Any cheaper available. Recommendations?? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:47:56 -0400, Michael Adolf wrote I am ready to purchase a TV Card Requirements: Include cable ready tuner have s-video in/out accept antenna or cable PCI TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want. Is this the one to get. Any cheaper available. Recommendations?? PVR-350 contains an mpeg encoder and decoder hardware. In other words you can capture directly to an mpeg file and save a ton of processing power. Likewise you can send an mpeg file directly to the card and get video out. Again saving a ton of processing power. The catch is support. PVR-350 output is still bleeding edge. You won't easily find drivers for Mandrake. The encoder part (capture) is not so bleeding edge, but you'll still have trouble finding drivers for Mandrake. The 2.6 kernel support is still pretty fresh. You can get around the decoder (output) poor support with any number of graphic cards that have TV out. In that case the TV-PVR-250 is a cheaper option. It's exactly the same as the 350, but without the output. The PVR- 250 has been supported in the 2.4 kernel for some time now and near as I can tell, 2.6 kernel support is there too. (at least that's what I've been told, I'm still trying). You'll have to do your own leg work, it's not part of the Mandrake config tools. If you can stand living on the edge, the PVR-350 should be a nicely supported hardware before too long, but the card may sit not fully used until then. In theory, ATI TV Wonder (capture only) cards should be supported, but I've yet to produce proof of that. Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as I've learned). Win-TV GO cards are easily installed and supported well. Great if you're looking to get TV up on the monitor with a minum fuss (and they're relatively cheap). I never had much luck capturing anything to file (never tried very hard) but install and config is fully supported in Mdk. Other than these I can't comment. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 12:47 pm, Michael Adolf wrote: I am ready to purchase a TV Card Requirements: Include cable ready tuner have s-video in/out accept antenna or cable PCI TVWin (TV-PVR-350) does everything I want. Is this the one to get. Any cheaper available. Recommendations?? Mike don't know about cheaper, (cheap always pays back by failing) but the leadtek wintv card is very good IMHO. HTH -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com