[nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
I can get behind this. http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
I think Linus would be a far more appropriate recipient than some of the murderers, thieves and jackals that have recently polluted the good name of the prize. But frankly, I wouldn't want his reputation tainted by including him in that group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
[nlug] Processor question
Pentium-D vs Core2 Pentium-D vs AMD Athlon/Phenom Opinions? Differences? I'm looking at building a cheap system to use as a workstation / server and have found a cheap Pentium-D dual core system and was wondering how it would compare to a Core2Duo or an AMD Phenom (or Phenom II). Any opinions and or links would be appreciated. I might use if for some casual gaming but nothing intense. I want to run VMs on the system which I will be using for learning and development, no serious full time services. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
Finally someone who would deserve it, and it started with the Guy who invented the internet! Well, OK so that last part ain't true, beheld. See ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Choose Life! On Nov 21, 2009 3:31 AM, "Russ Crawford" wrote: I can get behind this. http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
The Pentium D's and some of the really low end Core 2's do not have hardware virtualization on the chip. Intel calls this Intel VT, AMD calls it AMD-V. There are some programs that do software (para) virtualization and don't require this built into the CPU, but most virtualization software requires it and it makes a noticeable performance difference. All recent AMD chips have this built in, only Core 2 Duo and above have it on the Intel side. If you're considering virtualization now or sometime in the future, make sure you get the CPU that can handle it. Chris On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > Pentium-D vs Core2 > Pentium-D vs AMD Athlon/Phenom > > Opinions? Differences? > > I'm looking at building a cheap system to use as a workstation / server and > have found a cheap Pentium-D dual core system and was wondering how it would > compare to a Core2Duo or an AMD Phenom (or Phenom II). Any opinions and or > links would be appreciated. I might use if for some casual gaming but > nothing intense. I want to run VMs on the system which I will be using for > learning and development, no serious full time services. > > Andy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Chris McQuistion wrote: > The Pentium D's and some of the really low end Core 2's do not have > hardware virtualization on the chip. Intel calls this Intel VT, AMD calls > it AMD-V. There are some programs that do software (para) virtualization > and don't require this built into the CPU, but most virtualization software > requires it and it makes a noticeable performance difference. > > All recent AMD chips have this built in, only Core 2 Duo and above have it > on the Intel side. If you're considering virtualization now or sometime in > the future, make sure you get the CPU that can handle it. > > Chris > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's fact page. Thanks for the advice though. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
That looks like a great idea to me. Dave On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 03:29 -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: > I can get behind this. > > http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ > > Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: > > http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David R. Wilson wrote: > That looks like a great idea to me. > > Dave > > On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 03:29 -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: >> I can get behind this. >> >> http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ >> >> Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: O come on! Torvalds? If anything it needs to be split between RMS and Torvalds. Without the legal framework that RMS and friends came up with Linux could have remained proprietary or even BSD licensed, which would essentially lead to OSX. >From wikipedia: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel "In the start, Torvalds released Linux under a license which did not allow anyone to sell it. This was soon changed to the GNU General Public License (GPL), during version 0.12. This license allows distribution and sale of modified and unmodified versions of Linux but requires that all those copies be released under the same license and be accompanied by the complete corresponding source code." Andrew >> >> http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
If we award it to Linus and then next year RMS we have two years without a politician winning the award. If nothing else it would help to improve the image of the award. Dave On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 10:03 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David R. Wilson wrote: > > That looks like a great idea to me. > > > > Dave > > > > On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 03:29 -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: > >> I can get behind this. > >> > >> http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ > >> > >> Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: > > O come on! Torvalds? > > If anything it needs to be split between RMS and Torvalds. > > Without the legal framework that RMS and friends came up with > Linux could have remained proprietary or even BSD licensed, which would > essentially lead to OSX. > > >From wikipedia: > http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel > > "In the start, Torvalds released Linux under a license which did not > allow anyone to sell it. This was soon changed to the GNU General > Public License (GPL), during version 0.12. This license allows > distribution and sale of modified and unmodified versions of Linux but > requires that all those copies be released under the same license and > be accompanied by the complete corresponding source code." > > > Andrew > > > >> > >> http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html > >> > >> -- > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "NLUG" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > >> > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "NLUG" group. > > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM, David R. Wilson wrote: > If we award it to Linus and then next year RMS we have two years without > a politician winning the award. If nothing else it would help to > improve the image of the award. > Why not give in the ACM Turing award? He seems better qualified for anyway. http://awards.acm.org/homepage.cfm?awd=140 Andrew > Dave > > > On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 10:03 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David R. Wilson wrote: >> > That looks like a great idea to me. >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 03:29 -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: >> >> I can get behind this. >> >> >> >> http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ >> >> >> >> Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: >> >> O come on! Torvalds? >> >> If anything it needs to be split between RMS and Torvalds. >> >> Without the legal framework that RMS and friends came up with >> Linux could have remained proprietary or even BSD licensed, which would >> essentially lead to OSX. >> >> >From wikipedia: >> http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel >> >> "In the start, Torvalds released Linux under a license which did not >> allow anyone to sell it. This was soon changed to the GNU General >> Public License (GPL), during version 0.12. This license allows >> distribution and sale of modified and unmodified versions of Linux but >> requires that all those copies be released under the same license and >> be accompanied by the complete corresponding source code." >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> >> >> http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "NLUG" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "NLUG" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
> The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's fact > page. You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are you paying for the complete system? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Chris McQuistion > wrote: >> >> The Pentium D's and some of the really low end Core 2's do not have >> hardware virtualization on the chip. Intel calls this Intel VT, AMD calls >> it AMD-V. There are some programs that do software (para) virtualization >> and don't require this built into the CPU, but most virtualization software >> requires it and it makes a noticeable performance difference. >> All recent AMD chips have this built in, only Core 2 Duo and above have it >> on the Intel side. If you're considering virtualization now or sometime in >> the future, make sure you get the CPU that can handle it. >> Chris > > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's fact > page. > > Thanks for the advice though. > > Andy > make sure the chipset/mb will enable the cpu features you want the cpu having the flag does not mean it will do the function if the chipset doesnt -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - Arthur Brisbane - "A good friend can tell you what is the matter with you in a minute. He may not seem such a g... - http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26803.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Re: Google Voice Invites
Mark J. Bailey wrote: > > I have Google Voice already (just signed up) and wanted to send a GV > invite to my cousin. I am WANTING to get on Google Wave so I need an > invite. :-) So, though confusing, I am actually deal with both. > Are they even doing invites any more? I requested directly and got the account within a day or two. Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Re: Google Voice Invites
Mark J. Bailey wrote: > > I have Google Voice already (just signed up) and wanted to send a GV > invite to my cousin. I am WANTING to get on Google Wave so I need an > invite. :-) So, though confusing, I am actually deal with both. > Are they even doing invites any more? I requested directly and got the account within a day or two. Uh, Google Voice that is. Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM, andrew mcelroy wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM, David R. Wilson wrote: >> If we award it to Linus and then next year RMS we have two years without >> a politician winning the award. If nothing else it would help to >> improve the image of the award. >> > > Why not give in the ACM Turing award? > He seems better qualified for anyway. > > http://awards.acm.org/homepage.cfm?awd=140 > > Andrew > >> Dave >> >> >> On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 10:03 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David R. Wilson wrote: >>> > That looks like a great idea to me. >>> > >>> > Dave >>> > >>> > On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 03:29 -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: >>> >> I can get behind this. >>> >> >>> >> http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ >>> >> >>> >> Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: >>> >>> O come on! Torvalds? >>> >>> If anything it needs to be split between RMS and Torvalds. >>> >>> Without the legal framework that RMS and friends came up with >>> Linux could have remained proprietary or even BSD licensed, which would >>> essentially lead to OSX. >>> >>> >From wikipedia: >>> http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel >>> >>> "In the start, Torvalds released Linux under a license which did not >>> allow anyone to sell it. This was soon changed to the GNU General >>> Public License (GPL), during version 0.12. This license allows >>> distribution and sale of modified and unmodified versions of Linux but >>> requires that all those copies be released under the same license and >>> be accompanied by the complete corresponding source code." >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> Groups "NLUG" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >>> >> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> > "NLUG" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "NLUG" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. >> >> >> > > -- Only mostly off topic: Steven Crowder - I Gots a Peace Prize http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnLqoRtUAVg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote: > > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's > fact > > page. > > You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are > you paying for the complete system? > $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU no HD/Keyboard/Mouse > > Barebones system Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
>> You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are >> you paying for the complete system? > > $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU > > no HD/Keyboard/Mouse The Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1GHz is slightly faster in most benchmarks here: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3572&p=1 cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 2GB mem : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178213 mobo w/video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138167 case+psu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148030 Total : $298.98 w/tax + shipping -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
You can get another core for $7 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103648 vs the E6300: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=84&p2=94 On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote: >>> You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are >>> you paying for the complete system? >> >> $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU >> >> no HD/Keyboard/Mouse > > The Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1GHz is slightly faster in most benchmarks here: > > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3572&p=1 > > cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 > 2GB mem : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178213 > mobo w/video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138167 > case+psu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148030 > > Total : $298.98 w/tax + shipping > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
andrew mcelroy wrote: > > O come on! Torvalds? > > If anything it needs to be split between RMS and Torvalds. > I has thought about just that for my original post. I decided to avoid inviting controversy. Who of us (NLUG) would DISAPPROVE of a Nobel Prize for Linus. Linux would not be where it is without the GPL AND Stallman's philosophy. The GPL probably would not have been enough. When RMS speaks in Nashville, you can bet that I will be there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 09:50:37PM -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: > > I decided to avoid inviting controversy. Who of us (NLUG) would > DISAPPROVE of a Nobel Prize for Linus. I would. I don't see him being at all deserving, sorry. > Linux would not be where it is without the GPL AND Stallman's > philosophy. The GPL probably would not have been enough. Arguable. > When RMS speaks in Nashville, you can bet that I will be there. Bring air freshener. John -- It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. -- G. K. Chesterton pgpGYsuhM4z9Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [nlug] suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
Could I get an invitation? On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 09:50:37PM -0600, Russ Crawford wrote: > > > > I decided to avoid inviting controversy. Who of us (NLUG) would > > DISAPPROVE of a Nobel Prize for Linus. > >I would. I don't see him being at all deserving, sorry. > > > Linux would not be where it is without the GPL AND Stallman's > > philosophy. The GPL probably would not have been enough. > >Arguable. > > > When RMS speaks in Nashville, you can bet that I will be there. > >Bring air freshener. > > > > >John > > -- > It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be > unable > to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. > -- G. K. Chesterton > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
[nlug] Re: suggestion for a Nobel Prace Prize for Linus Torvalds
I have a feeling that the Nobel committee would more likely elect Richard M. Stallman On Nov 21, 3:29 am, Russ Crawford wrote: > I can get behind this. > > http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/ > > Linus would be an excellent addition to this list: > > http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.