[nlug] Laptop Issue

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Boniol
I'm having issues with my laptop.  My son decided to take it down the stairs
for some reason and dropped it about a month ago.  It has worked fine until
the past week...  Now it is locking up, and in Windows gives blue screens
(something about memory corruption detected).  Keeping it on a wooden
lap-desk seems to help (as opposed to my legs or the bed).  One place seems
warmer than normal, but I do hear the (a?) fan running.  If I put a little
bit of pressure on one corner near the HD, or move it too much, it will
cause a crash...?  So I'm thinking it is something hardware related.
 Possibly heat related problems, though it happened once after just a few
minutes of use.

I've reseated the memory.  I've checked the HD for errors (nothing
reported), and seen that the HD is securely attached.  So I'm about out of
normal user serviceable places to check.

Is there a place/someone you can recommend between the Gallatin,
Hendersonville, and from Rivergate to downtown Nashville area (or not too
far from this area) that would look at it, is competent, trustworthy, won't
cost more than it's worth, and could get it back to me in a reasonable time
frame?  I know that's a tall order these days.

Paul

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Re: [nlug] Anyone need access to Google Voice or Wave?

2009-12-17 Thread ./aal
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Kent Perrier  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Todd Wittenmeier 
> wrote:
>>
>> I have some invites for both, I have I think only one left for Voice,
>> I have 12 or so for Wave.
>>
>
> /me has 25 wave invites too.  Please email (not the group...) me the email
> address you want the invite sent to.
>

ditto, I have extra wavites, no voicevites yet

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Chris McQuistion
There are several different versions, but the free version includes most of
the features (except the ability to sync with LDAP and do more fancy stuff).
 It is limited to 25 users.  We use the Education version (which is also
available for non-profits) and it is completely free and includes all
functionality of the Premier version.  There is a Team version that is kind
of a hybrid and I think it is free, but you can't use it for a whole domain.
 Lastly, there is the Premier version which is $50 per user/year, which
isn't really very bad, when you consider what you're getting.  The Premier
version has a max mailbox size of 25 GB/user, compared to 7.25 GB/user for
the other versions.

Chris


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Chris McQuistion  > wrote:
>
>> You're exactly right.  You can sign up with Google Apps and start getting
>> stuff set up there, but don't change your MX records, yet.  Mail will still
>> flow to the old server.
>>
>> You can set up a domain alias at Google Apps and modify your DNS settings
>> to point mail for that domain alias at Google Apps.
>>
>> For example, we set up a domain alias of pilot.watkins.edu and we created
>> DNS records that point any incoming email that is destined for an @
>> pilot.watkins.edu email address to go to Google.  Since this is an alias,
>> people's actual email address is still @watkins.edu.
>>
>> Next, we set up forwarding on each individual account at Watkins to
>> forward all email to that person's @pilot.watkins.edu email address
>> (leaving an original on their watkins.edu account, just in case.)
>>
>> This means that when someone sends an email to example-u...@watkins.edu,
>> that message actually goes to our existing on-premise email server.  When it
>> gets there, a copy gets forwarded to example-u...@pilot.watkins.edu,
>> which delievers it to that users Google Mail account.  That user is now
>> using their Google Mail account to both send and receive email and
>> everything works great.
>>
>> At some point (once all users are migrated over), we will change the DNS
>> records for the main @watkins.edu domain and all email will start flowing
>> directly to Google, not going through our email server any more.  DNS
>> records take a while to propogate, of course, but because we have it
>> configured the way we do, if some mail goes to the old system, even after
>> the switchover, that mail will still get forwarded to the appropriate place.
>>
>> A key of course, is migrating all the existing mail.  I'm not sure if the
>> free version of Google Apps includes the IMAP import tool or not.  That's
>> what we're using for most migrations.  It just connects to our existing
>> server over secure IMAP and brings over all the mail.  Alternatively, there
>> is a desktop app you can install that just uploads your mail from your
>> system up to Google Mail.  There are probably a handful of other ways to do
>> migration as well, but those are the two most popular and the one's we're
>> using.  (We use the desktop app for Outlook users, because it also grabs
>> their contacts and calendars and local folder emails.)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
> This sounds really good, but a bit overkill for me as I am the only user on
> my domain and while I have several email addresses, it is really fairly
> simple.  I will probably get it setup, create the alias as you said, then
> test it and then throw the switch and test again over time as the dns change
> propogates.
>
> Also, I get my mail from my current provider via Pop3 so will not have any
> mail to migrate.  Then I will use imap to get mail from google.  Then, once
> everything has propogated, I will backup my web server and discontinue my
> account with my provider.  No point in paying them if I don't have too.
>
> Out of curiosity, what does it cost if you want to pay for google apps
> rather than use the free system?
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Chris McQuistion
wrote:

> You're exactly right.  You can sign up with Google Apps and start getting
> stuff set up there, but don't change your MX records, yet.  Mail will still
> flow to the old server.
>
> You can set up a domain alias at Google Apps and modify your DNS settings
> to point mail for that domain alias at Google Apps.
>
> For example, we set up a domain alias of pilot.watkins.edu and we created
> DNS records that point any incoming email that is destined for an @
> pilot.watkins.edu email address to go to Google.  Since this is an alias,
> people's actual email address is still @watkins.edu.
>
> Next, we set up forwarding on each individual account at Watkins to forward
> all email to that person's @pilot.watkins.edu email address (leaving an
> original on their watkins.edu account, just in case.)
>
> This means that when someone sends an email to example-u...@watkins.edu,
> that message actually goes to our existing on-premise email server.  When it
> gets there, a copy gets forwarded to example-u...@pilot.watkins.edu, which
> delievers it to that users Google Mail account.  That user is now using
> their Google Mail account to both send and receive email and everything
> works great.
>
> At some point (once all users are migrated over), we will change the DNS
> records for the main @watkins.edu domain and all email will start flowing
> directly to Google, not going through our email server any more.  DNS
> records take a while to propogate, of course, but because we have it
> configured the way we do, if some mail goes to the old system, even after
> the switchover, that mail will still get forwarded to the appropriate place.
>
> A key of course, is migrating all the existing mail.  I'm not sure if the
> free version of Google Apps includes the IMAP import tool or not.  That's
> what we're using for most migrations.  It just connects to our existing
> server over secure IMAP and brings over all the mail.  Alternatively, there
> is a desktop app you can install that just uploads your mail from your
> system up to Google Mail.  There are probably a handful of other ways to do
> migration as well, but those are the two most popular and the one's we're
> using.  (We use the desktop app for Outlook users, because it also grabs
> their contacts and calendars and local folder emails.)
>
> Chris
>

This sounds really good, but a bit overkill for me as I am the only user on
my domain and while I have several email addresses, it is really fairly
simple.  I will probably get it setup, create the alias as you said, then
test it and then throw the switch and test again over time as the dns change
propogates.

Also, I get my mail from my current provider via Pop3 so will not have any
mail to migrate.  Then I will use imap to get mail from google.  Then, once
everything has propogated, I will backup my web server and discontinue my
account with my provider.  No point in paying them if I don't have too.

Out of curiosity, what does it cost if you want to pay for google apps
rather than use the free system?

Andy

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Chris McQuistion
You're exactly right.  You can sign up with Google Apps and start getting
stuff set up there, but don't change your MX records, yet.  Mail will still
flow to the old server.

You can set up a domain alias at Google Apps and modify your DNS settings to
point mail for that domain alias at Google Apps.

For example, we set up a domain alias of pilot.watkins.edu and we created
DNS records that point any incoming email that is destined for an @
pilot.watkins.edu email address to go to Google.  Since this is an alias,
people's actual email address is still @watkins.edu.

Next, we set up forwarding on each individual account at Watkins to forward
all email to that person's @pilot.watkins.edu email address (leaving an
original on their watkins.edu account, just in case.)

This means that when someone sends an email to example-u...@watkins.edu,
that message actually goes to our existing on-premise email server.  When it
gets there, a copy gets forwarded to example-u...@pilot.watkins.edu, which
delievers it to that users Google Mail account.  That user is now using
their Google Mail account to both send and receive email and everything
works great.

At some point (once all users are migrated over), we will change the DNS
records for the main @watkins.edu domain and all email will start flowing
directly to Google, not going through our email server any more.  DNS
records take a while to propogate, of course, but because we have it
configured the way we do, if some mail goes to the old system, even after
the switchover, that mail will still get forwarded to the appropriate place.

A key of course, is migrating all the existing mail.  I'm not sure if the
free version of Google Apps includes the IMAP import tool or not.  That's
what we're using for most migrations.  It just connects to our existing
server over secure IMAP and brings over all the mail.  Alternatively, there
is a desktop app you can install that just uploads your mail from your
system up to Google Mail.  There are probably a handful of other ways to do
migration as well, but those are the two most popular and the one's we're
using.  (We use the desktop app for Outlook users, because it also grabs
their contacts and calendars and local folder emails.)

Chris


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Chris McQuistion  > wrote:
>
>> Curt Lundgren and I are in the process of migrating everyone at
>> Watkins to Google Apps. We love it. It took a whe to figure everything
>> out but we have been doing a phased migration for the past couple
>> weeks without any problems.
>>
>> I can give you more specific information and advice if you like,
>> including instructions on doing a phased deployment that will keep you
>> from losing any email.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
> Chris,
>   The first question I have is if signing up with google apps will
> interfere with existing email and I think the answer is NO.  Until you
> change the DNS / MX records nothing will go there even if you setup with
> google apps.
>
> Andy
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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Chris McQuistion
wrote:

> Curt Lundgren and I are in the process of migrating everyone at
> Watkins to Google Apps. We love it. It took a whe to figure everything
> out but we have been doing a phased migration for the past couple
> weeks without any problems.
>
> I can give you more specific information and advice if you like,
> including instructions on doing a phased deployment that will keep you
> from losing any email.
>
> Chris
>

Chris,
  The first question I have is if signing up with google apps will interfere
with existing email and I think the answer is NO.  Until you change the DNS
/ MX records nothing will go there even if you setup with google apps.

Andy

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Chris McQuistion
Curt Lundgren and I are in the process of migrating everyone at
Watkins to Google Apps. We love it. It took a whe to figure everything
out but we have been doing a phased migration for the past couple
weeks without any problems.

I can give you more specific information and advice if you like,
including instructions on doing a phased deployment that will keep you
from losing any email.

Chris

On Thursday, December 17, 2009, Michael Chaney
 wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andrew Farnsworth  wrote:
>> I'm considering moving my email service to google apps and I have my own
>> domain name.  Anyone have any experience with this and making the switch
>> without loosing email?
>
> I've done it not only for my domains but most of my customers as well.
>  It works fine, just make sure the MX is fully propagated before
> switching off the old server.
>
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Re: [nlug] Google Wave

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Chaney
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Brian H. Ward  wrote:
> It's the internet Segway. It looks cool, but...

A Segway looks cool?

I know, I get the drift...

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Chaney
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andrew Farnsworth  wrote:
> I'm considering moving my email service to google apps and I have my own
> domain name.  Anyone have any experience with this and making the switch
> without loosing email?

I've done it not only for my domains but most of my customers as well.
 It works fine, just make sure the MX is fully propagated before
switching off the old server.

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Schultheiss
Andrew Farnsworth wrote:
>I'm considering moving my email service to google apps and I have my
>own domain name.  Anyone have any experience with this and making the
>switch without loosing email?

I use Google Apps for several domains and have migrated mail from
other providers to Google Apps.  With the paid version of Google Apps,
you can do IMAP mail migration from within the Google Apps admin
interface.  I've also done mail migration using IMAP clients.  

The easiest way to not lose mail is to not cancel your current mail
hosting until after the MX records have had a chance to propogate and
you've migrated any additional mail that may have come into the old mail
server.

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Kevin Hart
Its pretty easy  Except their automated approval/rejection system.

Said stupidadmin.com was offensive.  Therefore I cant use it with their
system...Thanks

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Arafat Mohamed  wrote:

> Would this help? http://mail.google.com/mail/help/email_uploader.html
>
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> wrote:
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> > without loosing email?
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Re: [nlug] Google Wave

2009-12-17 Thread Brian H. Ward
It's the internet Segway. It looks cool, but...

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[nlug] Google Wave

2009-12-17 Thread Arafat Mohamed
Anyone figure out what it's good for yet?

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Re: [nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Arafat Mohamed
Would this help? http://mail.google.com/mail/help/email_uploader.html

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Re: [nlug] Anyone need access to Google Voice or Wave?

2009-12-17 Thread Kent Perrier
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Todd Wittenmeier wrote:

> I have some invites for both, I have I think only one left for Voice,
> I have 12 or so for Wave.
>
>
/me has 25 wave invites too.  Please email (not the group...) me the email
address you want the invite sent to.

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[nlug] Google Apps

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
I'm considering moving my email service to google apps and I have my own
domain name.  Anyone have any experience with this and making the switch
without loosing email?

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[nlug] Anyone need access to Google Voice or Wave?

2009-12-17 Thread Todd Wittenmeier
I have some invites for both, I have I think only one left for Voice,
I have 12 or so for Wave.

If anyone wishes to get invites.. reply with the email you want me to
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