Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
On 11/12/21 18:13, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: You’re right, tabular numbers are nonproportional. I meant versal (“normal”) numbers in opposite of oldstyle (mediaeval) numbers. I think there are two mutually exclusive feature pairs that you're mixing up: lnum vs onum: lining numbers versus old style numbers; "lining" having no descenders, but sitting on the line. pnum vs tnum: proportional vs tabulate numbers. As the name suggests, the latter look better where numbers are vertically aligned because each numeral will take exactly the same space, so tables, but also footnotes etc. The former of course will look better in running text. Add to this that numbers can also be subscript or superscript. Some very extensive professional fonts have surprising combinations of these features, so in the end, one has to do what you did: fiddle with featuresets until the result looks right. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
> Am 12.11.2021 um 09:47 schrieb jbf via ntg-context : > > In fact, in this instance, adjusting the roffset solved the problem, and I > didn't see any marked change using the proportional tabular (monospaced?) > fontfeature you suggest, though it is an interesting point to bear in mind in > the future. I'd always thought of proportional versus tabular rather than > proportional + tabular. You’re right, tabular numbers are nonproportional. I meant versal (“normal”) numbers in opposite of oldstyle (mediaeval) numbers. I often use the Alegreya fonts, and they default to oldstyle numbers. > Am 12.11.2021 um 14:47 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster > : > > Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context schrieb am 12.11.2021 um 09:09: >> \definefontfeature[ptabnum][default][ >> onum=no,pnum=yes,tnum=yes, >> ] > > You can't activate pnum and tnum at the same time, only one is possible. I don’t doubt that you’re right. I was probably tinkering until the result fitted my needs. Or the font has wrong features... Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context schrieb am 12.11.2021 um 09:09: Am 12.11.2021 um 06:26 schrieb jbf via ntg-context : It does seem, though, just using '1' as the chapter number for the moment, that the underline is not quite centered; almost but not quite. So am playing around with the roffset to adjust that. It might make sense to use a different number style for paginations – most fonts set unproportional tabular numbers as default, in this case proportional tabular numbers make sense. That will affect the spacing around the 1 – don’t know if it solves your case. Example from one of my projects: \definefontfeature[ptabnum][default][ onum=no,pnum=yes,tnum=yes, ] You can't activate pnum and tnum at the same time, only one is possible. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
In fact, in this instance, adjusting the roffset solved the problem, and I didn't see any marked change using the proportional tabular (monospaced?) fontfeature you suggest, though it is an interesting point to bear in mind in the future. I'd always thought of proportional versus tabular rather than proportional + tabular. Julian On 12/11/21 7:09 pm, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: \definefontfeature[ptabnum][default][ onum=no,pnum=yes,tnum=yes, ] ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
> Am 12.11.2021 um 06:26 schrieb jbf via ntg-context : > > It does seem, though, just using '1' as the chapter number for the moment, > that the underline is not quite centered; almost but not quite. So am playing > around with the roffset to adjust that. It might make sense to use a different number style for paginations – most fonts set unproportional tabular numbers as default, in this case proportional tabular numbers make sense. That will affect the spacing around the 1 – don’t know if it solves your case. Example from one of my projects: \definefontfeature[ptabnum][default][ onum=no,pnum=yes,tnum=yes, ] \definefontfeature[tabnum][default][ onum=no,pnum=no,tnum=yes, ] Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
Thanks Aditya. Option 1 is simple enough. Not sure why that eluded me earlier! Option 2 gives me a little more choice, I think. I'd being playing with framed but could quite get it right. It does seem, though, just using '1' as the chapter number for the moment, that the underline is not quite centered; almost but not quite. So am playing around with the roffset to adjust that. Julian On 12/11/21 3:49 pm, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, jbf via ntg-context wrote: The following MWE deliberately shows two ways of getting a short rule beneath a chapter number, but neither achieve what I want. \underbar is too close to the number \setupbar[underbar][offset=-0.8] % play around with the number and \crlf\blackrule too far below. So basically my question is: is there a way of adjusting the position of a brief rule beneath the number? \defineframed[underbarframed] [ frame=off, rulethickness=1pt, bottomframe=on, frameoffset=-1pt, % negative of rulethickness boffset=0.8ex, % play around with this ] Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, jbf via ntg-context wrote: > The following MWE deliberately shows two ways of getting a short rule > beneath a chapter number, but neither achieve what I want. \underbar is > too close to the number \setupbar[underbar][offset=-0.8] % play around with the number > and \crlf\blackrule too far below. So basically > my question is: is there a way of adjusting the position of a brief rule > beneath the number? \defineframed[underbarframed] [ frame=off, rulethickness=1pt, bottomframe=on, frameoffset=-1pt, % negative of rulethickness boffset=0.8ex, % play around with this ] Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] rule beneath chapter number
The following MWE deliberately shows two ways of getting a short rule
beneath a chapter number, but neither achieve what I want. \underbar is
too close to the number and \crlf\blackrule too far below. So basically
my question is: is there a way of adjusting the position of a brief rule
beneath the number? It probably involves neither of the approaches I
have used here, but I am not sure just what approach to take, other than
using a background layer... and maybe that is what I need to do.
Julian
\define[2]\MyChapterCommand%
{\framed[frame=on,bottomframe=off,leftframe=off,rightframe=off,topframe=off,align=middle]
{\vbox{\headtext{chapter}
\underbar{#1}\crlf\blackrule[height=.1\exheight]\crlf#2}}}
\setuphead[chapter][
header=empty,
alternative=middle,
style={\ssb},
number=yes,
command=\MyChapterCommand,
after={\blank[big]},
]
\setuplabeltext[chapter= ]
\starttext
\chapter[title={Chapter title}]
\stoptext
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