Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[James Rankin]

Aha! In the temp folder underneath that path. Life is now better.

Cheers,

On 5 March 2010 10:49, James Rankin  wrote:

> I just can't for the life of me get that to work. Every time I run it, no
> sign of an .msi file. Not anywhere.
>
> Never mind
>
> On 4 March 2010 19:44, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
>>  http://java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:41 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
>>
>> I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any
>> pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-)
>>
>> On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>>
>>>  Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
>>> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with previous
>>> version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
>>> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
>>> before...
>>> Tia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
>> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
>> a question."
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>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
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-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[James Rankin]

I just can't for the life of me get that to work. Every time I run it, no
sign of an .msi file. Not anywhere.

Never mind

On 4 March 2010 19:44, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  http://java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml
>
>  --
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:41 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
>
> I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any
> pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-)
>
> On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
>>  Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
>> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with previous
>> version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
>> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
>> before...
>> Tia.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Crawford, Scott]

I always set the option to "uninstall this application when it falls out
of the scope of management". Then when a new version is out, I remove
the old package from the GPO and add the new one. On reboot, the
computer will uninstall the old version (including quick start) before
installing the new.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

I've been deploying Java via GPO since early in the Java 5 days.

The Java Quick Start that was introduced with Java 6 Update 10 causes
exactly the symptoms you see when you try to update Java 6 via GPO.

To get around it I set that service to not start via GPO.

Sam Cayze wrote:
> Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with
> previous version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO
installs
> before...
> Tia.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Sam Cayze]

 "Sun (now Oracle) should stop pretending and just give us the MSI."

But then they can't bundle the Yahoo Toolbar!


-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

If you download and run the executable you will find the MSI in a
subfolder of %APPDATA%\Sun\Java.

The installer for Java 6 Update 18 puts the MSI under
%APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_18, Java 6 Update 19 would put it under
%APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_19, a hypothetical Java 7 Update 1 would put
it under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.7.0_1, etc.

Sun (now Oracle) should stop pretending and just give us the MSI.

James Rankin wrote:
> I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share 
> any pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem 
> resolution? :-)

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Phil Brutsche]

If you download and run the executable you will find the MSI in a
subfolder of %APPDATA%\Sun\Java.

The installer for Java 6 Update 18 puts the MSI under
%APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_18, Java 6 Update 19 would put it under
%APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_19, a hypothetical Java 7 Update 1 would put
it under %APPDATA%\Sun\Java\jre1.7.0_1, etc.

Sun (now Oracle) should stop pretending and just give us the MSI.

James Rankin wrote:
> I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any
> pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-)

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Sam Cayze]

Shoot. I knew that back from the days of pushing them out manually.  I
had this in my install script:  
for /f %%a in (@ALLUSERS.TXT) do pskill \\%%a jqs.exe 

Thanks Phil!

Sam



-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

I've been deploying Java via GPO since early in the Java 5 days.

The Java Quick Start that was introduced with Java 6 Update 10 causes
exactly the symptoms you see when you try to update Java 6 via GPO.

To get around it I set that service to not start via GPO.

Sam Cayze wrote:
> Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI

> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with 
> previous version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO 
> installs before...
> Tia.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Jonathan Link]

I've seen that behavior with Java updates before.  I would test on a feew
machines, no problem, then push it to production and a few machines would
fail or take forever.  For those machines, I've had to manually install
Java.  If you pick another system it may not give you any problems.



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  14mb.  The machine I am testing on now has been at the install for over
> an hour...
>
>  --
> *From:* Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:32 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
>
>   I did this awhile back, I believe it was with update 13 or something
> around there, and had no issues. How large is the MSI?
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO
>
>
>
> Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with previous
> version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
>
> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
> before...
>
> Tia.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Sam Cayze]

http://java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO


I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any
pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution?
:-)


On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze  wrote:


Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update
18 MSI takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with
previous version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO
installs before...
Tia.

 



 




-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."



 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Carl Houseman]

I was leaving this alone since it's not needed for security reasons... but
thanks for testing it!  Now I *know* I'll wait for the next one...

 

Carl

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

 

Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI takes
seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with previous version
of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.

Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
before...

Tia.

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Phil Brutsche]

I've been deploying Java via GPO since early in the Java 5 days.

The Java Quick Start that was introduced with Java 6 Update 10 causes
exactly the symptoms you see when you try to update Java 6 via GPO.

To get around it I set that service to not start via GPO.

Sam Cayze wrote:
> Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with
> previous version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
> before...
> Tia.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Sam Cayze]

14mb.  The machine I am testing on now has been at the install for over
an hour...



From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO



I did this awhile back, I believe it was with update 13 or something
around there, and had no issues. How large is the MSI?

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

 

Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with
previous version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.

Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
before...

Tia.

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[James Rankin]

I've been trying to extract the msi for days for Java. Care to share any
pointers, and I might be able to contribute to your problem resolution? :-)

On 4 March 2010 19:27, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
> takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with previous
> version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.
> Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
> before...
> Tia.
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

[Don Guyer]

I did this awhile back, I believe it was with update 13 or something
around there, and had no issues. How large is the MSI?

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java Update 18 takes forever via GPO

 

Anyone deploy Java Update MSIs via GPO?  I'm finding the Update 18 MSI
takes seriously forever to install on my test machines.  All with
previous version of Java.  XP Pro Sp3.

Anyway to find out why?  I have never had an issue with MSI/GPO installs
before...

Tia.

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~