Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[Hotma Sirait]

pak fs (pemain besar) siap-siap tampung pgas dibawah 10.000 ya.

- Original Message 
From: Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:54:34 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

Great msg from boyz:
everyone here have different trading systems/rules, different time frame and 
different scale of fund.
JUST JOINT THE TREND (dont fight back anyone) 

i think, it is time to collect PGAS ... 10rb perak murah booosss


On 11/24/06, oentoeng_q < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bagi saya ini adalah moment tepat untuk "merekontruksi" pemahaman 
tentang saham yang bagus dan menguntungkan!?

Kasus PGAS membuktikan bahwa saham BAGUS? FA BAGUS? KINERJA 
KINCLONG? BLUE CHIPS?.dst; bisa MERUGIKAN setiap Trader!!!

Nah sekarang yang salah SAHAM-nya atau STRATEGI-nya?

Kondisi begini exit strategy yang akan menunjukkan siapa yang akan 
menjadi KILLER or VICTIMS?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which 
friday? let's see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a 
metter of faith...
> here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on 
what's going on.
> choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
> cheers
> 

> boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?
> 
> 
> dear mr.pemainbesar,
> 
> i heard that news too ...
> 
> i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to 
tell the truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite 
people here to get involved or make some contribution in the war 
tomorrow (isn't it?)
> 
> i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have 
a big scale fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time 
frame investing that follow your invitation.
> 
> as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, 
different time frame and different scale of fund.
> so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your 
war.
> they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who 
they joint to), THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
> they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A 
LOOSING POSITION.
> hehehe ...
> 
> but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter. 
> let's see some little contribution tomorrow.
> 
> and let's see ...
> can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price 
IDR11,500 tomorrow ?
> (i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)
> 
> or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500. 
> 
> only GOD knows.
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> 
> pemainbesar wrote: WARNING:
> One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened 
accounts 
> (VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities 
companies to 
> kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
> rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 
a 
> share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR 
MINISTRY 
> ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
> YEAR...
> 
> BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I 
DOUBT 
> IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
> BROKERAGE FIRMS..
> 
> WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?
> 
> NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...
> 
> YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?
> 
> ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[Odink]

koneksi sutarwan gak ada masalah.. hots jg lancar jaya

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:13:09 +0700, jsx_consultant  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> KOK... bisa lewat DARI GANGGUAN ?.
>
> Coba kita INVENTARIS, ISP mana yang bisa LOLOS dari gangguan
> sekitar jam 10:00 sampe 10:30 (kira-kira)...
>
> Mungkin dari DATA YG KITA kumpulkan, kita bisa TAU koneksi
> internet MANA yang masih BISA JALAN kalo bursa lagi DIANGKAT..


 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[Knight]

Great msg from boyz:
everyone here have different trading systems/rules, different time frame and
different scale of fund.
JUST JOINT THE TREND (dont fight back anyone)

i think, it is time to collect PGAS ... 10rb perak murah booosss

On 11/24/06, oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Bagi saya ini adalah moment tepat untuk "merekontruksi" pemahaman
tentang saham yang bagus dan menguntungkan!?

Kasus PGAS membuktikan bahwa saham BAGUS? FA BAGUS? KINERJA
KINCLONG? BLUE CHIPS?.dst; bisa MERUGIKAN setiap Trader!!!

Nah sekarang yang salah SAHAM-nya atau STRATEGI-nya?

Kondisi begini exit strategy yang akan menunjukkan siapa yang akan
menjadi KILLER or VICTIMS?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
Frederick Schubert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which
friday? let's see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a
metter of faith...
> here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on
what's going on.
> choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
> cheers
>
> boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?
>
>
> dear mr.pemainbesar,
>
> i heard that news too ...
>
> i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to
tell the truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite
people here to get involved or make some contribution in the war
tomorrow (isn't it?)
>
> i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have
a big scale fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time
frame investing that follow your invitation.
>
> as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules,
different time frame and different scale of fund.
> so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your
war.
> they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who
they joint to), THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
> they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A
LOOSING POSITION.
> hehehe ...
>
> but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter.
> let's see some little contribution tomorrow.
>
> and let's see ...
> can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price
IDR11,500 tomorrow ?
> (i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)
>
> or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500.
>
> only GOD knows.
>
> regards,
>
>
>
> pemainbesar wrote: WARNING:
> One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened
accounts
> (VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities
companies to
> kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new
> rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000
a
> share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR
MINISTRY
> ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS
> YEAR...
>
> BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I
DOUBT
> IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE
> BROKERAGE FIRMS..
>
> WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?
>
> NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...
>
> YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?
>
> ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[Donny Buntoro]

Mbah..emang tadi ada gangguan yah?? saya disini pakai Kabelvision+CBN...
okeh-okeh aja neh...semoga membantu. Thanks,

Salam
Donny


- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?


Anda PAKE Internet Service Provider (ISP) apa ?.
KOK... bisa lewat DARI GANGGUAN ?.

Coba kita INVENTARIS, ISP mana yang bisa LOLOS dari gangguan 
sekitar jam 10:00 sampe 10:30 (kira-kira)...

Mungkin dari DATA YG KITA kumpulkan, kita bisa TAU koneksi
internet MANA yang masih BISA JALAN kalo bursa lagi DIANGKAT..

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "greg adian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Seharian ini HOTS saya tongkrongin ngga ada masalah Pak. Gimana 
yang lain?
> 
> On 11/24/06, Karno Edy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS 
lagi
> > ngadat ?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PNBN mau digoreng ?

[oentoeng_q]

Kelihatan Pak Frederick mulai buka2-an nih….
Di warrant ada sedikit buka2an utk mengintip dompet orang 

Kalau mau mencermati besarnya LOT yg melakukan pembelian warrant 
akan kelihatan siapa mereka dan maunya apa?

Hal yang paling mudah ditebak karena ini adalah UANG DINGIN. 
Artinya bukan dana margin/funding…..jadi kalau ada  pembelian besar 
artinya bisa dibayangkan betapa besar keyakinannya.

Nah buat teman2 dimana banyak broker masih enggan memberikan NILAI 
funding utk warrant tapi ada broker tertentu yg mau ngasih, yang 
pasti prosentase jaminannya bervariasi….
Malah saya tahu ada gajah yg bisa mendapat jaminan 90-100% karena 
reputasinya di dunia per-warrant-an.

Kalau saya lihat beberapa teman bisa memberikan SHORT LIST 
rekomendasi saham, nah dari asumsi di atas saya menunjukkan short 
list pemain warrant.
Jadi kalau ada yg kelihatan BIG bisa ketahuan SIZE dia dan sulit 
untuk BERUBAH kalau dia mempergunakan dana funding.
Kemarin "teman2 saya" mengambil PNBN-W sama PNLF-W khan gedhe2 
so...itulah lawan2 kita yg perlu dicermati


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Bicara PNBN sekali lagi ini bicara gajah kehabisan AKAL (barang 
> maksudnya) P. Karno...
> Karena BNGA ama BBKP sudah tinggi apalagi yg mau DIGORENG kalau 
bukan 
> PNBN.
> 
> Nah untuk bicara warrant ini ada seni tradingnya...
> Kemarin memang ada KESENGAJAAN PNBN-W sama PNLF-W ditrek duluan, 
> alasannya karena KETINGGALAN.
> Khan secara hitungan ini belum mencakup harga PREMIUM warrant 
tersebut 
> terhadap induknya?
> Nah kita harus sering JELI melihat RUANG yg selalu diciptakan oleh 
> mereka.
> Kelihatan P. Karno sudah bisa membaca peluang tersebut.
> 
> Yang jelas GURU saya mengajari begini:
> WARRANT tidak bisa naik sendirian tanpa INDUK
> Tapi INDUK boleh naik terus tanpa diikuti oleh WARRANT-nya.
> 
> Artinya warrant ini dimainkan sedemikian rupa, setelah level 
tertentu 
> induknya diangkat 1-2 point cukup.
> Begitu seterusnya...
> Ntar kalau sudah waktunya PROFIT induk turun lumayan tapi warrant 
> turun DALEM.
> Ruang ini memang sengaja mereka buat
> Ntar kalau mereka dateng ditrek lagi kayak kemarin.
> 
> Yang jelas bicara planned agenda PNBN memang untuk konsumsi akhir 
> tahun 2006 pak..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Ane melihat tanda-tanda saham mau digoreng.
> > PNBN 520-550, warrantnya sekitar 170-195.
> > Tapi kemarin  PNBN geser sepoint, warrantnya naek 3-4 point. 
Hari 
> ini juga. Keliatannya udah mulai mau lari.
> > 
> > Gimana pakar warrant Pak Oentoeng ?
> >
>

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[jsx_consultant]

Anda PAKE Internet Service Provider (ISP) apa ?.
KOK... bisa lewat DARI GANGGUAN ?.

Coba kita INVENTARIS, ISP mana yang bisa LOLOS dari gangguan 
sekitar jam 10:00 sampe 10:30 (kira-kira)...

Mungkin dari DATA YG KITA kumpulkan, kita bisa TAU koneksi
internet MANA yang masih BISA JALAN kalo bursa lagi DIANGKAT..

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "greg adian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Seharian ini HOTS saya tongkrongin ngga ada masalah Pak. Gimana 
yang lain?
> 
> On 11/24/06, Karno Edy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS 
lagi
> > ngadat ?
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Milis OB tambah DEWASA

[Teddy Budiwan]

Well put, Mbah.
Salam Kenal

another newbie.

On 11/24/06, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Milis OB tambah DEWASA

PERTEMPURAN SERU terjadi di milis OB, tapi embah melihat
ASPEK POSITIF pada petempuran ini yaitu diKEMUKAKANNYA LOGIKA
TANPA EMOSI

ADA BANYAK KORBAN, TAPI MAIN SAHAM memang bukan buat SEMUA
ORANG, apalagi untuk PEMULA 

SO buat pak FS dan yg LAIN , lanjutkan PERDEBATAN dan
PERTEMPURAN anda, resiko MAIN SAHAM merupakan TANGGUNG JAWAB masing
masing idividu..

Yang KALAH, mohon TIDAK MENYALAHKAN orang lain...

...

embah, moderator milis OB

 





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS, so many rumours kill this share

[Eddy S. Purnomo]

Anxiously looking forward to it !!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Frederick Schubert 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS, so many rumours kill this share


  hehehehehehe...let's see how big mr. sinaga is.come on press it to below 
10,000...be more than happy to collect it.

  Budi Kurniawan Kumala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Tambah hari tambah sepertinya korban dari Arena Gladiator PGAS ini semakin 
banyak, darah semakin banyak dicurahkan. 
Sepertinya tinggal pemain yang Kuat Modal , Nekat , Iseng saja yang masih 
berusaha menaklukan Beruang Ngamuk ini, Seperti yang dihimbau banyak pemain 
senior , mending tunggu aja dulu, kalau sudah terkapar baru serbu ( 10.000 
.? ) 

TA & Fa Bagus. , Harga masih ditahan 
Rumour divestasi pemerintah, harga tambah di press ke bawah 
Pergantian direksi & komisaris , Ngak efek ngangkat harga. 

Ditambah Pipa Gas  meledak di Porong Sidoarjo  
Apalagi info terbaru dari Mr. FS tentang skenario untuk membabat semua 
pendekar di arena. , tambah bikin seru aja nih. 

any comment ? 
Kayaknya masukin dulu aja saham kita ini di lemari besi. 
simpan sampai Old and New  tanggal  2 January 2007 intip lagi, 

Mau belajar Long-term ah kayak Mr. FS. 

Regards
Budi  


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[Rony]

saya juga mengalami kendala yang sama

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Karno Edy
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 10:27
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?




Udah bisa, begitu connect lagi udah ijo +5

- Original Message - 
From: Karno Edy   
To: obrolan-bandar@  yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS lagi ngadat ?

 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[susantoyang]

Who are LMS and VT?




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "pemainbesar" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> WARNING:
> One big speculator... his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened 
accounts 
> (VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities 
companies to 
> kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
> rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 
a 
> share. WHICH IS BASELESS.!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR 
MINISTRY 
> ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
> YEAR...
> 
> BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I 
DOUBT 
> IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATORIT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
> BROKERAGE FIRMS..
> 
> WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR...? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?
> 
> NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...
> 
> YOU FEEL BIG...HUH...?
> 
> ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[greg adian]

Seharian ini HOTS saya tongkrongin ngga ada masalah Pak. Gimana yang lain?

On 11/24/06, Karno Edy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS lagi
ngadat ?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[b_pardede]

what a cruel world

cheers,
banggas


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kalau sudah seperti ini..
> 
> sebaiknya masing-masing member ditemukan secara nyata.. terus 
dikasih pistol
> satu-satu
> 
> Kita nonton dari jauh aja.. pasti seru
> 
> haha...
> 
> Just kidding
> 
> 
> On 11/24/06, gitto kurniasanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   ini adalah BUKTI NYATA anda HARUS tidak percaya pada 
SIAPAPUN belum
> > nyamboeng?? baca dari BAWAH sampai ATAS BANGET...secara 
DETAIL...ada yang
> > JANGGAL?? pak boyz dah ngasih CLUE tuh...^^ do you still believe 
what you
> > read here buddy?? DONT!!
> >
> > salam hangat,
> > gitto kurniasanto
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] wrote:
> > there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which 
friday?
> > let's see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a metter 
of faith...
> > here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on 
what's
> > going on.
> > choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
> > cheers
> >
> > boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?
> >
> > dear mr.pemainbesar,
> >
> > i heard that news too ...
> >
> > i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, 
to tell the
> > truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite 
people here to
> > get involved or make some contribution in the war tomorrow 
(isn't it?)
> >
> > i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might 
have a big
> > scale fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time frame 
investing
> > that follow your invitation.
> >
> > as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, 
different
> > time frame and different scale of fund.
> > so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your 
war.
> > they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who 
they joint
> > to), THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
> > they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A 
LOOSING
> > POSITION.
> > hehehe ...
> >
> > but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter.
> > let's see some little contribution tomorrow.
> >
> > and let's see ...
> > can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price 
IDR11,500
> > tomorrow ?
> > (i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)
> >
> > or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500.
> >
> > only GOD knows.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > pemainbesar wrote: WARNING:
> > One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened 
accounts
> > (VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities 
companies to
> > kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another 
new
> > rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below 
IDR10,000 a
> > share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR 
MINISTRY
> > ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM 
THIS
> > YEAR...
> >
> > BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I 
DOUBT
> > IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE
> > BROKERAGE FIRMS..
> >
> > WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?
> >
> > NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...
> >
> > YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?
> >
> > ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?
> >
> > -
> > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
> >
> > 
> >
>

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Milis OB tambah DEWASA

[b_pardede]

salam kenal buat para senior2 dan mbah2 yang ada disini
pertempuran di milist OB sama serunya dengan pertempuran antara 
beruang lawan banteng di pasar :)

saya juga ambil posisi di PGAS.. deg2an deh..


cheers,
banggas
~kesusahan sehari cukuplah untuk sehari :)~




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Ane juga ambil posisi di PGAS. . . tapi resiko di tangan sendiri.
> 
> Mau liat  Mr FS bertanding di lapangan, sambil ikut taruhan di 
pinggiran 
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: jsx_consultant 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:06 AM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Milis OB tambah DEWASA
> 
> 
>   Milis OB tambah DEWASA
> 
>   PERTEMPURAN SERU terjadi di milis OB, tapi embah melihat
>   ASPEK POSITIF pada petempuran ini yaitu diKEMUKAKANNYA LOGIKA
>   TANPA EMOSI 
> 
>   ADA BANYAK KORBAN, TAPI MAIN SAHAM memang bukan buat SEMUA
>   ORANG, apalagi untuk PEMULA 
> 
>   SO buat pak FS dan yg LAIN , lanjutkan PERDEBATAN dan 
>   PERTEMPURAN anda, resiko MAIN SAHAM merupakan TANGGUNG JAWAB 
masing 
>   masing idividu..
> 
>   Yang KALAH, mohon TIDAK MENYALAHKAN orang lain...
> 
>   ...
> 
>   embah, moderator milis OB
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PNBN mau digoreng ?

[oentoeng_q]

Bicara PNBN sekali lagi ini bicara gajah kehabisan AKAL (barang 
maksudnya) P. Karno...
Karena BNGA ama BBKP sudah tinggi apalagi yg mau DIGORENG kalau bukan 
PNBN.

Nah untuk bicara warrant ini ada seni tradingnya...
Kemarin memang ada KESENGAJAAN PNBN-W sama PNLF-W ditrek duluan, 
alasannya karena KETINGGALAN.
Khan secara hitungan ini belum mencakup harga PREMIUM warrant tersebut 
terhadap induknya?
Nah kita harus sering JELI melihat RUANG yg selalu diciptakan oleh 
mereka.
Kelihatan P. Karno sudah bisa membaca peluang tersebut.

Yang jelas GURU saya mengajari begini:
WARRANT tidak bisa naik sendirian tanpa INDUK
Tapi INDUK boleh naik terus tanpa diikuti oleh WARRANT-nya.

Artinya warrant ini dimainkan sedemikian rupa, setelah level tertentu 
induknya diangkat 1-2 point cukup.
Begitu seterusnya...
Ntar kalau sudah waktunya PROFIT induk turun lumayan tapi warrant 
turun DALEM.
Ruang ini memang sengaja mereka buat
Ntar kalau mereka dateng ditrek lagi kayak kemarin.

Yang jelas bicara planned agenda PNBN memang untuk konsumsi akhir 
tahun 2006 pak..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Ane melihat tanda-tanda saham mau digoreng.
> PNBN 520-550, warrantnya sekitar 170-195.
> Tapi kemarin  PNBN geser sepoint, warrantnya naek 3-4 point. Hari 
ini juga. Keliatannya udah mulai mau lari.
> 
> Gimana pakar warrant Pak Oentoeng ?
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PNBN mau digoreng ?

[oentoeng_q]

Bicara PNBN sekali lagi ini bicara gajah kehabisan AKAL (barang 
maksudnya) P. Karno...
Karena BNGA ama BBKP sudah tinggi apalagi yg mau DIGORENG kalau bukan 
PNBN.

Nah untuk bicara warrant ini ada seni tradingnya...
Kemarin memang ada KESENGAJAAN PNBN-W sama PNLF-W ditrek duluan, 
alasannya karena KETINGGALAN.
Khan secara hitungan ini belum mencakup harga PREMIUM warrant tersebut 
terhadap induknya?
Nah kita harus sering JELI melihat RUANG yg selalu diciptakan oleh 
mereka.
Kelihatan P. Karno sudah bisa membaca peluang tersebut.

Yang jelas GURU saya mengajari begini:
WARRANT tidak bisa naik sendirian tanpa INDUK
Tapi INDUK boleh naik terus tanpa diikuti oleh WARRANT-nya.

Artinya warrant ini dimainkan sedemikian rupa, setelah level tertentu 
induknya diangkat 1-2 point cukup.
Begitu seterusnya...
Ntar kalau sudah waktunya PROFIT induk turun lumayan tapi warrant 
turun DALEM.
Ruang ini memang sengaja mereka buat
Ntar kalau mereka dateng ditrek lagi kayak kemarin.

Yang jelas bicara planned agenda PNBN memang untuk konsumsi akhir 
tahun 2006 pak..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Ane melihat tanda-tanda saham mau digoreng.
> PNBN 520-550, warrantnya sekitar 170-195.
> Tapi kemarin  PNBN geser sepoint, warrantnya naek 3-4 point. Hari 
ini juga. Keliatannya udah mulai mau lari.
> 
> Gimana pakar warrant Pak Oentoeng ?
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: MAS OOOOO - PTBA

[oentoeng_q]

Apa yang disampaikan P. A3K...adalah sesuatu yang MENONJOL.
Ini alasan UTAMA kenapa banyak Gajah menghindar utk sementara di 
PTBA.
Ini pernah dialami ISAT waktu sideways di bawah beberapa saat lalu.
Artinya kalau ada MANAJEMEN baru yg "memadai", mungkin bisa 
dipertimbangkan lagi secara TA untuk ikut running
Karena banyak sekali kontrak, proyek yg nggak jelas kelanjutannya, 
padahal persaingan di batu bara khan semakin meningkat.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "A3K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Tadi pagi berita dari PAS FM, meneg BUMN tidak akan mengisi 
direksi yg baru
> di PTBA sampe diadakan RUPS-LB - direksi lama sudah pension dan 
kegiatan
> sehari-hari ditangani oleh komisaris.
> 
>  
> 
> Gitu tuh cermin perusahaan BUMN
> 
>  
> 
> Kayaknya ini bukan info bagus deh
> 
>  
> 
> A3K
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of pemulung_sisa_bd
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:36 AM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MAS O
> 
>  
> 
> mas o, liat gak PTBA ? set dah, sempit bgt rangenye, terus mana 
daily 
> volumenye naik turun. hari ini vol naik, besok turun, terus naik 
lg, 
> apa cuma ampe disini kali yach harganya, soale dilihat dari weekly 
> dan monthly volume klo gak salah turun terus. mas ada gak liat ke 
> anehan2 di ptba ini? klo ada kasi tau ya mas, buat pertimbangan 
aye.
> oya, saya dengar kabar kalo pesawat air force lewat, koneksian
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: trub & trub-w ?

[meif]

Pagi Pak Oen
 
Iya, terima kasih banyak pak atas petunjuknya, tak lama setelah menganal saham, 
saya membeli saham amag-w hanya karena melihat di rti banyaknya broker asing 
yang beli saham itu  dan rata2 harganya berapa, karena perkiraan harga rata2 
mereka dan yang bisa saya dapatkan esok pagi2 tidak berbeda jauh, maka saya 
beranikan masuk, 
dan ternyata untung banyak pak, cuman ya karena saya tidak mengerti dan 
bermodal nekat, sore ketika harganya turun, saya beli lagi, dan saya nyangkut 
sampai sekarang :(
saya tidak mengerti apakah itu keberuntungan saja atau ternyata saya sudah jadi 
ekor, hehehe
 
Membaca sharing Pak Oen, membuat saya semakin bersemangat lagi untuk belajar.
 
Trims banyak pak ^^
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From:   oentoeng_q 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:07   AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: trub &   trub-w ?
  


Wah wah saya termasuk berandalan ya Bu? 
Tapi saya mohon maaf dulu baru   bisa jawab sekarang, karena beberapa 
hari ini saya ada tugas menerima tamu   jadi sama sekali tidak di 
depan monitor.

Bu Mei menurut saya kalau   mau accelerate kemampuan kita dalam 
belajar di bursa.
Paling mudah   adalah bergaul sebanyak2nya dengan trader yg 
melakukan "Trading for a   living". Karena mereka itu bekerja seolah2 
tidak bisa makan kalau tidak   cuan dari bursa.
Bicara…doing homework….mereka serius sekali, hati2 dan   jauh lebih 
teliti karena memang pekerjaannya.

Kenapa saya kelihatan   BERBEDA dengan teman2 yg lain yah akibat 
pergaulan di atas.
Kalau TA   trader akan sibuk dengan mengutak-atik indicator, menggaris…
dsb
Nah   saya lumayan banyak teman yg kerjaannya NGOPREK2 saham yg sedang   
dibandari. 

Malah mereka mau nge-PRINT "trans all day…dlm kurun   waktu tertentu" 
kemudian dianalisa, dicermati broker mana saja yg ikut   bermain dst.
Ditandai kira2 masuk kapan? keluar kapan? Keluar/masuk dari   mana 
saja? Yang penting POLA-nya bagaimana?
Kemudian mereka juga   membandingkan pola/teknik tersebut pada saham 
lain apakah ada   kesamaan?
Pokoknya ini semua membutuhkan EFFORT EKSTRA…….dimana saya yakin   
kalau diantara teman2 yg lain jarang bahkan mungkin belum pernah   
melakukan perkerjaan seperti itu!?
Semua pekerjaan itu masih panjang   ceritanya….

Mereka juga mengalokasikan dana tertentu utk masuk   LINGKUNGAN pintu2 
keluar /masuk para BD. Lama-lama khan diketahui MODUS   operandi-nya…
Kadang-kadang terjadi "Karena tak kenal maka tak   sayang….."
Akhirnya pergaulan (dibilang networking) itu berkembang dengan   
sendirinya….

Yang bisa diambil pelajaran dari sana adalah semua   orang harus mau 
bekerja keras untuk menghasilkan yang TERBAIK.
Mungkin   orang lain bilang ini bukan cara ilmiah tapi saya memahami 
sebagai upaya   untuk terus bertahan (survivor) di bursa.
Toh sampai sekarang mereka pelan   tapi pasti mampu beli rumah, tanah, 
kendaraan dsb…hasil dari NYOLONG   cuannya para professional.
Semoga kerja keras mereka bisa menjadi inspirasi   atau motivasi bagi 
Bu Mei dan yang lainnya.

Sama seperti yg sering   Eyang Ratman sarankan (di milis sebelah), 
kalau punya fasilitas internet   yg memadai silahkan MENYELAM di dunia 
maya utk terus belajar….
Saya   dahulu hampir setiap hari surfing utk mencari info tentang TA 
maupun   FA.
Kayak candlestick 100% saya paham dari internet dan lama setelah itu   
baru baca bukunya Steve Nisson, Greg Morrison dsb…barusan juga telah   
selesai edisi Indonesia karangan P. Santo Vibby.

Karena waktu saya   di depan monitor cukup sering, maklum saya juga 
suka main game online,   jadi untuk mengurangi kelelahan mata saya 
print semua artikel yg saya   kumpulkan…
Boleh percaya atau tidak sudah ribuan kertas print yg saya   habiskan 
karena sering saya baca sambil menunggu tidur….

Saya paham   para senior pastinya juga telah berusaha, bahkan jauh 
lebih KERAS dari yg   saya lakukan, kembali lagi itu semua khan untuk 
memastikan diri SELALU   SIAP BERTANDING kapan saja dan dimana saja…..

Jadi silahkan Bu Mei   sendiri menentukan bagaimana mencari ilmu 
bertahan di bursa, Saya lihat   banyak yg siap membantu asal jangan 
tiru2 ilmu berandalan kayak   saya….
Ntar jadi orang "mbambong"; gelandangan   maksudnya…
Hehehe……

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,   meif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Malam Pak Oen,
>   
> hehehe, iya pak salah kata2, saya juga senang banget kalo bisa   
turun lebih banyak lagi ^^ egois juga sih.
> kejelian ini didapat   dari mana Pak,kalo saya boleh tau, karena TA 
bisa dipelajari, tapi   pengamatan berandalan kan tidak ada ilmu 
pastinya Pak??
> 
>   Trims banget =)
> 
> 
> - Original Message -   
> From: oentoeng_q 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent:   Friday, November 17, 2006 4:21 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: trub   & trub-w ?
> 
> 
> 
> Please Bu Mei..jangan tanya   saya besok saham ini naik apa turun?
> Karena saya tidak pernah bisa   jawab pertanyaan seperti ini.
> 
> Yang jelas saya suka kalau ada   koreksi beneran kayak hari i

[obrolan-bandar] Re: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[Karno Edy]

Udah bisa, begitu connect lagi udah ijo +5
  - Original Message - 
  From: Karno Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:23 AM
  Subject: HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?


  10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS lagi ngadat ? 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[Oskar Syahbana]

Disini baik2 aja tuh pak.

Mungkin loop dari komputer Bapak ke server HOTS yang memang sedang
bermasalah.

On 11/24/06, Karno Edy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS lagi
ngadat ?

 





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: amazing CTRA ?

[Hotma Sirait]

hahahaha amazing kan dari HMTED jadi stock split dan right issue  (sorry 
becanda).


- Original Message 
From: Ali Susanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:35:38 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: amazing CTRA ?


ikutan nimbrung yaa
 loh kok jadi stock split? bukan nya mau RI (right issue) Rp500/lbr & + 
warrant

up_trends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ctra ssplit?

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Ferry Haryanto" 
 wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Salam
> 
> Biasanya hari terakhir turun untuk stock split, jadi besok siap siap
> saja turun, dan akan naik dihari pertama penjualan after stock split
> 
> 
> Terimakasih
> 
> Ferry Haryanto
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
> Sent: 23 Nopember 2006 14:25
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] amazing CTRA ?
> 
> ada yg bisa menjelaskan fenomena CTRA yg tgl 24 besok
> 
> Corporate Action 
> 
> No. Type CA Cum Date Reg. Date Delivery Date
> Rasio 
> 1. HMETD 24-11-2006 29-11-2006 30-11-
2006 8
> shm : 5 HMETD 
> 
> dengan kenaikan harga minggu ini. apa besok mau jadi 1000 ya ?
> (disclaimer ya)
> 
> regards,
> 
> hotma sirait
> 
> 
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] PNBN mau digoreng ?

[Karno Edy]

Ane melihat tanda-tanda saham mau digoreng.
PNBN 520-550, warrantnya sekitar 170-195.
Tapi kemarin  PNBN geser sepoint, warrantnya naek 3-4 point. Hari ini juga. 
Keliatannya udah mulai mau lari.

Gimana pakar warrant Pak Oentoeng ?

[obrolan-bandar] HOTS ngadat, tanda alam ?

[Karno Edy]

10:20 Internet jalan, tapi HOTS ane gak mau connect. Apa HOTS lagi ngadat ?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Milis OB tambah DEWASA

[Karno Edy]

Ane juga ambil posisi di PGAS. . . tapi resiko di tangan sendiri.

Mau liat  Mr FS bertanding di lapangan, sambil ikut taruhan di pinggiran 


  - Original Message - 
  From: jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:06 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Milis OB tambah DEWASA


  Milis OB tambah DEWASA

  PERTEMPURAN SERU terjadi di milis OB, tapi embah melihat
  ASPEK POSITIF pada petempuran ini yaitu diKEMUKAKANNYA LOGIKA
  TANPA EMOSI 

  ADA BANYAK KORBAN, TAPI MAIN SAHAM memang bukan buat SEMUA
  ORANG, apalagi untuk PEMULA 

  SO buat pak FS dan yg LAIN , lanjutkan PERDEBATAN dan 
  PERTEMPURAN anda, resiko MAIN SAHAM merupakan TANGGUNG JAWAB masing 
  masing idividu..

  Yang KALAH, mohon TIDAK MENYALAHKAN orang lain...

  ...

  embah, moderator milis OB



   

[obrolan-bandar] Milis OB tambah DEWASA

[jsx_consultant]

Milis OB tambah DEWASA


PERTEMPURAN SERU terjadi di milis OB, tapi embah melihat
ASPEK POSITIF pada petempuran ini yaitu diKEMUKAKANNYA LOGIKA
TANPA EMOSI 

ADA BANYAK KORBAN, TAPI MAIN SAHAM memang bukan buat SEMUA
ORANG, apalagi untuk PEMULA 

SO buat pak FS dan yg LAIN , lanjutkan PERDEBATAN dan 
PERTEMPURAN anda, resiko MAIN SAHAM merupakan TANGGUNG JAWAB masing 
masing idividu..

Yang KALAH, mohon TIDAK MENYALAHKAN orang lain...

...

embah, moderator milis OB

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS, so many rumours kill this share

[Frederick Schubert]

hehehehehehe...let's see how big mr. sinaga is.come on press it to below 
10,000...be more than happy to collect it.

Budi Kurniawan Kumala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Tambah hari tambah 
sepertinya korban dari Arena Gladiator PGAS ini semakin banyak, darah semakin 
banyak dicurahkan. 
  Sepertinya tinggal pemain yang Kuat Modal , Nekat , Iseng saja yang masih 
berusaha menaklukan Beruang Ngamuk ini, Seperti yang dihimbau banyak pemain 
senior , mending tunggu aja dulu, kalau sudah terkapar baru serbu ( 10.000 
.? ) 
   
  TA & Fa Bagus. , Harga masih ditahan 
  Rumour divestasi pemerintah, harga tambah di press ke bawah 
  Pergantian direksi & komisaris , Ngak efek ngangkat harga. 
   
  Ditambah Pipa Gas  meledak di Porong Sidoarjo  
  Apalagi info terbaru dari Mr. FS tentang skenario untuk membabat semua 
pendekar di arena. , tambah bikin seru aja nih. 
   
  any comment ? 
  Kayaknya masukin dulu aja saham kita ini di lemari besi. 
  simpan sampai Old and New  tanggal  2 January 2007 intip lagi, 
   
  Mau belajar Long-term ah kayak Mr. FS. 
   
  Regards
  Budi  

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS, so many rumours kill this share

[Budi Kurniawan Kumala]

Tambah hari tambah sepertinya korban dari Arena Gladiator PGAS ini semakin 
banyak, darah semakin banyak dicurahkan. 
  Sepertinya tinggal pemain yang Kuat Modal , Nekat , Iseng saja yang masih 
berusaha menaklukan Beruang Ngamuk ini, Seperti yang dihimbau banyak pemain 
senior , mending tunggu aja dulu, kalau sudah terkapar baru serbu ( 10.000 
.? ) 
   
  TA & Fa Bagus. , Harga masih ditahan 
  Rumour divestasi pemerintah, harga tambah di press ke bawah 
  Pergantian direksi & komisaris , Ngak efek ngangkat harga. 
   
  Ditambah Pipa Gas  meledak di Porong Sidoarjo  
  Apalagi info terbaru dari Mr. FS tentang skenario untuk membabat semua 
pendekar di arena. , tambah bikin seru aja nih. 
   
  any comment ? 
  Kayaknya masukin dulu aja saham kita ini di lemari besi. 
  simpan sampai Old and New  tanggal  2 January 2007 intip lagi, 
   
  Mau belajar Long-term ah kayak Mr. FS. 
   
  Regards
  Budi  

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[Sharif Dayan]

Salam Sejahtera...

Pada Kamis 23 November 2006, beagle boyz menulis:

> hajar bos...
> im with you...

Count me in, Sir !
:-)



Sharif Dayan

[obrolan-bandar] Re: trub & trub-w ?

[oentoeng_q]

Wah wah saya termasuk berandalan ya Bu? 
Tapi saya mohon maaf dulu baru bisa jawab sekarang, karena beberapa 
hari ini saya ada tugas menerima tamu jadi sama sekali tidak di 
depan monitor.

Bu Mei  menurut saya kalau mau accelerate kemampuan kita dalam 
belajar di bursa.
Paling mudah adalah bergaul sebanyak2nya dengan trader yg 
melakukan "Trading for a living". Karena mereka itu bekerja seolah2 
tidak bisa makan kalau tidak cuan dari bursa.
Bicara…doing homework….mereka serius sekali, hati2 dan jauh lebih 
teliti karena memang pekerjaannya.

Kenapa saya kelihatan BERBEDA dengan teman2 yg lain yah akibat 
pergaulan di atas.
Kalau TA trader akan sibuk dengan mengutak-atik indicator, menggaris…
dsb
Nah saya lumayan banyak teman yg kerjaannya NGOPREK2 saham yg sedang 
dibandari. 

Malah mereka mau nge-PRINT "trans all day…dlm kurun waktu tertentu" 
kemudian dianalisa, dicermati broker mana saja yg ikut bermain dst.
Ditandai kira2 masuk kapan? keluar kapan? Keluar/masuk dari mana 
saja? Yang penting POLA-nya bagaimana?
Kemudian mereka juga membandingkan pola/teknik tersebut pada saham 
lain apakah ada kesamaan?
Pokoknya ini semua membutuhkan EFFORT EKSTRA…….dimana saya yakin 
kalau diantara teman2 yg lain jarang bahkan mungkin belum pernah 
melakukan perkerjaan seperti itu!?
Semua pekerjaan itu masih panjang ceritanya….

Mereka juga mengalokasikan dana tertentu utk masuk LINGKUNGAN pintu2 
keluar /masuk para BD. Lama-lama khan diketahui MODUS operandi-nya…
Kadang-kadang terjadi "Karena tak kenal maka tak sayang….."
Akhirnya pergaulan (dibilang networking) itu berkembang dengan 
sendirinya….

Yang bisa diambil pelajaran dari sana adalah semua orang harus mau 
bekerja keras untuk menghasilkan yang TERBAIK.
Mungkin orang lain bilang ini bukan cara ilmiah tapi saya memahami 
sebagai upaya untuk terus bertahan (survivor) di bursa.
Toh sampai sekarang mereka pelan tapi pasti mampu beli rumah, tanah, 
kendaraan dsb…hasil dari NYOLONG cuannya para professional.
Semoga kerja keras mereka bisa menjadi inspirasi atau motivasi bagi 
Bu Mei dan yang lainnya.

Sama seperti yg sering Eyang Ratman sarankan (di milis sebelah), 
kalau punya fasilitas internet yg memadai silahkan MENYELAM di dunia 
maya utk terus belajar….
Saya dahulu hampir setiap hari surfing utk mencari info tentang TA 
maupun FA.
Kayak candlestick 100% saya paham dari internet dan lama setelah itu 
baru baca bukunya Steve Nisson, Greg Morrison dsb…barusan juga telah 
selesai edisi Indonesia karangan P. Santo Vibby.

Karena waktu saya di depan monitor cukup sering, maklum saya juga 
suka main game online, jadi untuk mengurangi kelelahan mata saya 
print semua artikel yg saya kumpulkan…
Boleh percaya atau tidak sudah ribuan kertas print yg saya habiskan 
karena sering saya baca sambil menunggu tidur….

Saya paham para senior  pastinya juga telah berusaha, bahkan jauh 
lebih KERAS dari yg saya lakukan, kembali lagi itu semua khan untuk 
memastikan diri SELALU SIAP BERTANDING kapan saja dan dimana saja…..

Jadi silahkan Bu Mei sendiri menentukan bagaimana mencari ilmu 
bertahan di bursa, Saya lihat banyak yg siap membantu asal jangan 
tiru2 ilmu berandalan kayak saya….
Ntar jadi orang "mbambong"; gelandangan maksudnya…
Hehehe……


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, meif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Malam Pak Oen,
>  
> hehehe, iya pak salah kata2, saya juga senang banget kalo bisa 
turun lebih banyak lagi ^^ egois juga sih.
> kejelian ini didapat dari mana Pak,kalo saya boleh tau, karena TA 
bisa dipelajari, tapi pengamatan berandalan kan tidak ada ilmu 
pastinya Pak??
>  
> Trims banget =)
>  
>  
> - Original Message - 
>   From:   oentoeng_q 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
>   Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:21   PM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: trub &   trub-w ?
>   
> 
> 
> Please Bu Mei..jangan tanya saya besok saham ini naik apa turun?
> Karena   saya tidak pernah bisa jawab pertanyaan seperti ini.
> 
> Yang jelas saya   suka kalau ada koreksi beneran kayak hari ini.
> Jadi akan terjadi kenaikan   yg sehat
> Tinggal nunggu breakoutnya saja minggu2 depan nggak tahu   kapan?
> Yang jelas utk menjaga "momentum" mestinya konsolidasi saham 
model   
> begini tidak terlalu lama.
> 
> Kasus terbaru seperti ini saya hadapi   ketika byk orang berondong 
> japri ke saya masalah BNGA-W yg DROP dari 510   sempat menyentuh 
450 
> kalau tidak salah.
> Yah saya cuman bisa bilang   bahwa peluang BNGA meneruskan 
perjalanan 
> ke atas masih besar, so...BNGA-W   saat itu 450-an adalah 
> saat "average down" buat yg nyangkut dan pake duit   sendiri.
> Memang banyak org melarang tindakan di atas, TAPI kalau meyakini   
> fundamentalnya khan nggak apa2?
> Syukurnya tdk terlalu lama harga BNGA   sudah lebih tinggi, jadi 
BNGA-
> W hari ini sudah bisa kembali.
> Trading di   saham ini juga ada seni yg lain...
> 
> Artinya dari semua di atas; kalau   kita yakin suatu saham (TRUB) 
ada 
> ISI-nya...kita tidak perlu takut kalau   ada koreksi. 
> Malah ka

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: amazing CTRA ?

[Ali Susanto]

ikutan nimbrung yaa
   loh kok jadi stock split? bukan nya mau RI (right issue) Rp500/lbr & + 
warrant
  
up_trends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  ctra ssplit?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ferry Haryanto" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Salam
> 
> Biasanya hari terakhir turun untuk stock split, jadi besok siap siap
> saja turun, dan akan naik dihari pertama penjualan after stock split
> 
> 
> Terimakasih
> 
> Ferry Haryanto
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
> Sent: 23 Nopember 2006 14:25
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] amazing CTRA ?
> 
> ada yg bisa menjelaskan fenomena CTRA yg tgl 24 besok
> 
> Corporate Action 
> 
> No. Type CA Cum Date Reg. Date Delivery Date
> Rasio 
> 1. HMETD 24-11-2006 29-11-2006 30-11-
2006 8
> shm : 5 HMETD 
> 
> dengan kenaikan harga minggu ini. apa besok mau jadi 1000 ya ?
> (disclaimer ya)
> 
> regards,
> 
> hotma sirait
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[Halim Mintareja]

Kalau sudah seperti ini..

sebaiknya masing-masing member ditemukan secara nyata.. terus dikasih pistol
satu-satu

Kita nonton dari jauh aja.. pasti seru

haha...

Just kidding


On 11/24/06, gitto kurniasanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  ini adalah BUKTI NYATA anda HARUS tidak percaya pada SIAPAPUN belum
nyamboeng?? baca dari BAWAH sampai ATAS BANGET...secara DETAIL...ada yang
JANGGAL?? pak boyz dah ngasih CLUE tuh...^^ do you still believe what you
read here buddy?? DONT!!

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] wrote:
there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which friday?
let's see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a metter of faith...
here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on what's
going on.
choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
cheers

boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?

dear mr.pemainbesar,

i heard that news too ...

i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to tell the
truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite people here to
get involved or make some contribution in the war tomorrow (isn't it?)

i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have a big
scale fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time frame investing
that follow your invitation.

as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, different
time frame and different scale of fund.
so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your war.
they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who they joint
to), THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A LOOSING
POSITION.
hehehe ...

but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter.
let's see some little contribution tomorrow.

and let's see ...
can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price IDR11,500
tomorrow ?
(i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)

or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500.

only GOD knows.

regards,

pemainbesar wrote: WARNING:
One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a
share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: trub & trub-w ?

[oentoeng_q]

Wah wah saya termasuk berandalan ya Bu? 
Tapi saya mohon maaf dulu baru bisa jawab sekarang, karena beberapa 
hari ini saya ada tugas menerima tamu jadi sama sekali tidak di 
depan monitor.

Bu Mei  menurut saya kalau mau accelerate kemampuan kita dalam 
belajar di bursa.
Paling mudah adalah bergaul sebanyak2nya dengan trader yg 
melakukan "Trading for a living". Karena mereka itu bekerja seolah2 
tidak bisa makan kalau tidak cuan dari bursa.
Bicara…doing homework….mereka serius sekali, hati2 dan jauh lebih 
teliti karena memang pekerjaannya.

Kenapa saya kelihatan BERBEDA dengan teman2 yg lain yah akibat 
pergaulan di atas.
Kalau TA trader akan sibuk dengan mengutak-atik indicator, menggaris…
dsb
Nah saya lumayan banyak teman yg kerjaannya NGOPREK2 saham yg sedang 
dibandari. 

Malah mereka mau nge-PRINT "trans all day…dlm kurun waktu tertentu" 
kemudian dianalisa, dicermati broker mana saja yg ikut bermain dst.
Ditandai kira2 masuk kapan? keluar kapan? Keluar/masuk dari mana 
saja? Yang penting POLA-nya bagaimana?
Kemudian mereka juga membandingkan pola/teknik tersebut pada saham 
lain apakah ada kesamaan?
Pokoknya ini semua membutuhkan EFFORT EKSTRA…….dimana saya yakin 
kalau diantara teman2 yg lain jarang bahkan mungkin belum pernah 
melakukan perkerjaan seperti itu!?
Semua pekerjaan itu masih panjang ceritanya….

Mereka juga mengalokasikan dana tertentu utk masuk LINGKUNGAN pintu2 
keluar /masuk para BD. Lama-lama khan diketahui MODUS operandi-nya…
Kadang-kadang terjadi "Karena tak kenal maka tak sayang….."
Akhirnya pergaulan (dibilang networking) itu berkembang dengan 
sendirinya….

Yang bisa diambil pelajaran dari sana adalah semua orang harus mau 
bekerja keras untuk menghasilkan yang TERBAIK.
Mungkin orang lain bilang ini bukan cara ilmiah tapi saya memahami 
sebagai upaya untuk terus bertahan (survivor) di bursa.
Toh sampai sekarang mereka pelan tapi pasti mampu beli rumah, tanah, 
kendaraan dsb…hasil dari NYOLONG cuannya para professional.
Semoga kerja keras mereka bisa menjadi inspirasi atau motivasi bagi 
Bu Mei dan yang lainnya.

Sama seperti yg sering Eyang Ratman sarankan (di milis sebelah), 
kalau punya fasilitas internet yg memadai silahkan MENYELAM di dunia 
maya utk terus belajar….
Saya dahulu hampir setiap hari surfing utk mencari info tentang TA 
maupun FA.
Kayak candlestick 100% saya paham dari internet dan lama setelah itu 
baru baca bukunya Steve Nisson, Greg Morrison dsb…barusan juga telah 
selesai edisi Indonesia karangan P. Santo Vibby.

Karena waktu saya di depan monitor cukup sering, maklum saya juga 
suka main game online, jadi untuk mengurangi kelelahan mata saya 
print semua artikel yg saya kumpulkan…
Boleh percaya atau tidak sudah ribuan kertas print yg saya habiskan 
karena sering saya baca sambil menunggu tidur….

Saya paham para senior  pastinya juga telah berusaha, bahkan jauh 
lebih KERAS dari yg saya lakukan, kembali lagi itu semua khan untuk 
memastikan diri SELALU SIAP BERTANDING kapan saja dan dimana saja…..

Jadi silahkan Bu Mei sendiri menentukan bagaimana mencari ilmu 
bertahan di bursa, Saya lihat banyak yg siap membantu asal jangan 
tiru2 ilmu berandalan kayak saya….
Ntar jadi orang "mbambong"; gelandangan maksudnya…
Hehehe……

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, meif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Malam Pak Oen,
>  
> hehehe, iya pak salah kata2, saya juga senang banget kalo bisa 
turun lebih banyak lagi ^^ egois juga sih.
> kejelian ini didapat dari mana Pak,kalo saya boleh tau, karena TA 
bisa dipelajari, tapi pengamatan berandalan kan tidak ada ilmu 
pastinya Pak??
>  
> Trims banget =)
>  
>  
> - Original Message - 
>   From:   oentoeng_q 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
>   Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:21   PM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: trub &   trub-w ?
>   
> 
> 
> Please Bu Mei..jangan tanya saya besok saham ini naik apa turun?
> Karena   saya tidak pernah bisa jawab pertanyaan seperti ini.
> 
> Yang jelas saya   suka kalau ada koreksi beneran kayak hari ini.
> Jadi akan terjadi kenaikan   yg sehat
> Tinggal nunggu breakoutnya saja minggu2 depan nggak tahu   kapan?
> Yang jelas utk menjaga "momentum" mestinya konsolidasi saham 
model   
> begini tidak terlalu lama.
> 
> Kasus terbaru seperti ini saya hadapi   ketika byk orang berondong 
> japri ke saya masalah BNGA-W yg DROP dari 510   sempat menyentuh 
450 
> kalau tidak salah.
> Yah saya cuman bisa bilang   bahwa peluang BNGA meneruskan 
perjalanan 
> ke atas masih besar, so...BNGA-W   saat itu 450-an adalah 
> saat "average down" buat yg nyangkut dan pake duit   sendiri.
> Memang banyak org melarang tindakan di atas, TAPI kalau meyakini   
> fundamentalnya khan nggak apa2?
> Syukurnya tdk terlalu lama harga BNGA   sudah lebih tinggi, jadi 
BNGA-
> W hari ini sudah bisa kembali.
> Trading di   saham ini juga ada seni yg lain...
> 
> Artinya dari semua di atas; kalau   kita yakin suatu saham (TRUB) 
ada 
> ISI-nya...kita tidak perlu takut kalau   ada koreksi. 
> Malah kal

[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[oentoeng_q]

Bagi saya ini adalah moment tepat untuk "merekontruksi" pemahaman 
tentang saham yang bagus dan menguntungkan!?

Kasus PGAS membuktikan bahwa saham BAGUS? FA BAGUS? KINERJA 
KINCLONG? BLUE CHIPS?.dst; bisa MERUGIKAN setiap Trader!!!

Nah sekarang yang salah SAHAM-nya atau STRATEGI-nya?

Kondisi begini exit strategy yang akan menunjukkan siapa yang akan 
menjadi KILLER or VICTIMS?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which 
friday? let's see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a 
metter of faith...
>   here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on 
what's going on.
>   choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
>   cheers
> 
> boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?
> 
> 
> dear mr.pemainbesar,
> 
> i heard that news too ...
> 
> i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to 
tell the truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite 
people here to get involved or make some contribution in the war 
tomorrow (isn't it?)
> 
> i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have 
a big scale fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time 
frame investing that follow your invitation.
> 
> as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, 
different time frame and different scale of fund.
> so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your 
war.
> they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who 
they joint to), THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
> they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A 
LOOSING POSITION.
> hehehe ...
> 
> but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter. 
> let's see some little contribution tomorrow.
> 
> and let's see ...
> can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price 
IDR11,500 tomorrow ?
> (i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)
> 
> or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500. 
> 
> only GOD knows.
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> 
> pemainbesar wrote:   WARNING:
> One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened 
accounts 
> (VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities 
companies to 
> kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
> rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 
a 
> share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR 
MINISTRY 
> ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
> YEAR...
> 
> BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I 
DOUBT 
> IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
> BROKERAGE FIRMS..
> 
> WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?
> 
> NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...
> 
> YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?
> 
> ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>  
> -
> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[gitto kurniasanto]

ini adalah BUKTI NYATA anda HARUS tidak percaya pada SIAPAPUN belum 
nyamboeng?? baca dari BAWAH sampai ATAS BANGET...secara DETAIL...ada yang 
JANGGAL?? pak boyz dah ngasih CLUE tuh...^^ do you still believe what you read 
here buddy?? DONT!!

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which friday? let's 
see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a metter of faith...
  here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on what's going 
on.
  choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
  cheers

boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?


dear mr.pemainbesar,

i heard that news too ...

i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to tell the 
truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite people here to get 
involved or make some contribution in the war tomorrow (isn't it?)

i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have a big scale 
fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time frame investing that 
follow your invitation.

as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, different time 
frame and different scale of fund.
so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your war.
they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who they joint to), 
THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A LOOSING POSITION.
hehehe ...

but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter. 
let's see some little contribution tomorrow.

and let's see ...
can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price IDR11,500 
tomorrow ?
(i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)

or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500. 

only GOD knows.

regards,



pemainbesar wrote:   WARNING:
One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts 
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to 
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a 
share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY 
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT 
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?






  

 

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[Andreas Yasakasih]

hehehehekebuka juga yach akhirnya siapa dumper selama
inikikikiki..yg terpenting itu siapa dibalik itu (man behind the
gun).. politik, trading sakit hati ato apa.. mari kita tanya
pada rumput yg bergoyangmode: pegang gitar sambil nyanyi gaya Ebiet

On 11/23/06, pemainbesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  WARNING:
One big speculator... his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a
share. WHICH IS BASELESS.!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATORIT MAY ONLY FINE THE
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR...? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH...?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?

 





--
Kind Regard,

Andreas Y

Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[Frederick Schubert]

there are many fridays comingso..? hehehehehehe which friday? let's 
see...time frame can be set up...timing is just a metter of faith...
  here..? I just want to share some infos to make us more alert on what's going 
on.
  choices are yours. I think suhu IAN is laughing now...
  cheers

boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?


dear mr.pemainbesar,

i heard that news too ...

i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to tell the 
truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite people here to get 
involved or make some contribution in the war tomorrow (isn't it?)

i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have a big scale 
fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time frame investing that 
follow your invitation.

as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, different time 
frame and different scale of fund.
so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your war.
they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who they joint to), 
THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A LOOSING POSITION.
hehehe ...

but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter. 
let's see some little contribution tomorrow.

and let's see ...
can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price IDR11,500 
tomorrow ?
(i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)

or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500. 

only GOD knows.

regards,



pemainbesar wrote:   WARNING:
One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts 
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to 
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a 
share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY 
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT 
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?






  

 

 
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[budi suryono]

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darvas dan diharapkan menuju next higher box,rgds

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[boyz]

hehehe ... mr. schubert ganti label yah ?


dear mr.pemainbesar,

i heard that news too ...

i suppose your purpose mailing this news is for a good reason, to tell 
the truth about exactly what is going on. or perhaps to invite people 
here to get involved or make some contribution in the war tomorrow 
(isn't it?)


i guessed that you are a kind of long term investor and might have a big 
scale fund, i thought it might be only who had longer time frame 
investing that follow your invitation.


as we knew, everyone here have different trading systems/rules, 
different time frame and different scale of fund.

so don't be obsessed if not everyone in here doesn't follow your war.
they are not join the speculators (and might don't realized who they 
joint to), THEY JUST JOINT THE TREND.
they are not fight back anyone, THEY JUST FIGHT BACK AGAINST A LOOSING 
POSITION.

hehehe ...

but don't get me wrong, i'm not opposed you in this matter.
let's see some little contribution tomorrow.

and let's see ...
can this little contribution settled PGAS at your target price IDR11,500 
tomorrow ?

(i'm not pretty much sure, but who knows. hehehe)

or speculators pull it down below IDR10,500.

only GOD knows.

regards,



pemainbesar wrote:


WARNING:
One big speculator.. . his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a
share. WHICH IS BASELESS .!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATOR.. ..IT MAY ONLY FINE THE
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR.. .? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH... ?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[beagle boyz]

hajar bos...
im with you...

pion item


On 11/23/06, budi suryono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  The tape says , we should keep short PGAS, next target 1.never argue
the tape.rgds

*pemainbesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

 WARNING:
One big speculator... his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a
share. WHICH IS BASELESS.!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATORIT MAY ONLY FINE THE
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR...? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH...?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: amazing CTRA ?

[boyz]

right issue  kaleee ?...





up_trends wrote:
>
> ctra ssplit?
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> , "Ferry Haryanto"
>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Salam
> >
> > Biasanya hari terakhir turun untuk stock split, jadi besok siap siap
> > saja turun, dan akan naik dihari pertama penjualan after stock split
> >
> >
> > Terimakasih
> >
> > Ferry Haryanto
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> 
> > [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> ] On Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
> > Sent: 23 Nopember 2006 14:25
> > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] amazing CTRA ?
> >
> > ada yg bisa menjelaskan fenomena CTRA yg tgl 24 besok
> >
> > Corporate Action
> >
> > No. Type CA Cum Date Reg. Date Delivery Date
> > Rasio
> > 1. HMETD 24-11-2006 29-11-2006 30-11-
> 2006 8
> > shm : 5 HMETD
> >
> > dengan kenaikan harga minggu ini. apa besok mau jadi 1000 ya ?
> > (disclaimer ya)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > hotma sirait
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: amazing CTRA ?

[up_trends]

ctra ssplit?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ferry Haryanto" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Salam
>  
> Biasanya hari terakhir turun untuk stock split, jadi besok siap siap
> saja turun, dan akan naik dihari pertama penjualan after stock split
>  
>  
> Terimakasih
>  
> Ferry Haryanto
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
> Sent: 23 Nopember 2006 14:25
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] amazing CTRA ?
> 
> ada yg bisa menjelaskan fenomena CTRA yg tgl 24 besok
> 
> Corporate Action 
>  
> No. Type CA Cum DateReg. Date Delivery Date
> Rasio 
> 1.HMETD  24-11-2006  29-11-2006   30-11-
2006 8
> shm : 5 HMETD 
> 
> dengan kenaikan harga minggu ini. apa besok mau jadi 1000 ya ?
> (disclaimer ya)
> 
> regards,
> 
> hotma sirait
> 
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[budi suryono]

The tape says , we should keep short PGAS, next target 1.never argue the 
tape.rgds

pemainbesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  WARNING:
One big speculator... his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts 
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to 
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a 
share. WHICH IS BASELESS.!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY 
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT 
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATORIT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR...? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH...?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?



 

 
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[obrolan-bandar] PGAS; SO MANY RUMORS TO KILL THE SHARE PRICE

[pemainbesar]

WARNING:
One big speculator... his name is LMS, and wife VT, opened accounts 
(VERY RECENTLY) in several foreign and domestic securities companies to 
kill PGAS share price. Today (late Thursday) he spread another new 
rumor saying that the government will sell PGAS at below IDR10,000 a 
share. WHICH IS BASELESS.!! AS THE STATE-OWNED AFFAIR MINISTRY 
ISTASKED TO RAISE RP3 TRILLION FROM THE PRIVATIZATION PROGRAM THIS 
YEAR...

BAPEPAM MAY COMPLETE INVESTIGATING THIS CASE VERY SOON BUT I DOUBT 
IT WILL DARE TO SANCTION THE SPECULATORIT MAY ONLY FINE THE 
BROKERAGE FIRMS..

WANNA JOIN THE SPECULATOR...? OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST HIM...?

NOW I OPENLY STAGE AN OPEN WAR...

YOU FEEL BIG...HUH...?

ANY COMMENT..? MOTIVE..?

RE: [obrolan-bandar] amazing CTRA ?

[Ferry Haryanto]

Salam
 
Biasanya hari terakhir turun untuk stock split, jadi besok siap siap
saja turun, dan akan naik dihari pertama penjualan after stock split
 
 
Terimakasih
 
Ferry Haryanto

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
Sent: 23 Nopember 2006 14:25
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] amazing CTRA ?

ada yg bisa menjelaskan fenomena CTRA yg tgl 24 besok

Corporate Action 
 
No. Type CA Cum DateReg. Date Delivery Date
Rasio 
1.HMETD  24-11-2006  29-11-2006   30-11-2006 8
shm : 5 HMETD 

dengan kenaikan harga minggu ini. apa besok mau jadi 1000 ya ?
(disclaimer ya)

regards,

hotma sirait


 


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