[ob] Thanks Prof JT ramalan IHSG
Untung diingetin ama Prof JT, soal tekanan jual yg tinggi. Mohon terus membimbing nubie. Salam hangat lumayan. Prof JT, chart berikut bisa kejadian nggak ? Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.comattachment: IHSG H S.gif
[ob] N225 AORD - 2 % !
Dear Senior OB, nubie mohon sarannya. Beli di Jumat sore atawa Selasa aja ? Salam - Pesan Diteruskan Dari: Sulistyo Winarto sulistyo_wina...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 16 September, 2009 14:26:11 Judul: OOT : Mudik YUK Dear Senior OB, mumpung dikasi THR DOW Fut juga +28. Masa sih US Eropa rally terus ? Nubie berterima kasih pada Mbah, JT, DE, El, dll. Abis lebaran, nyemplung lagi Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer
[ob] OOT : Mudik YUK
Dear Senior OB, mumpung dikasi THR DOW Fut juga +28. Masa sih US Eropa rally terus ? Nubie berterima kasih pada Mbah, JT, DE, El, dll. Abis lebaran, nyemplung lagi ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[ob] Iklan Bloomberg
Indonesia Stock Index May Regain Record in a Year Aug. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia’s stock index, the world’s second-best performer this year, may return to the record reached last year in the next 12 months as falling interest rates boost growth, PT Batavia Prosperindo Aset Manajemen said. Automotive, banks and property stocks may lead gains, said Ruddy Raharjo, head of investment at Batavia, Indonesia’s sixth- best performing fund in the past five years. The Jakarta Composite Index reached a record of 2,830.26 in January last year, before falling 61 percent to its October low. The measure has risen 68 percent this year. Shares are rebounding as Indonesia posted the fastest growth among Southeast Asian nations even as the global economy remained in recession. President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono’s re- election last month raised expectations the government will maintain policies that helped the economy to expand 4 percent in the second quarter and curb inflation to a nine-year low. “People were expecting company earnings to be devastated because of slumping consumption, but that didn’t happen,” Raharjo, who manages the equivalent of about $550 million, said in an interview in Jakarta on Aug. 18. The market is “returning to its proper level,” he added. Optimism over Yudhoyono’s economic policies after his re- election overshadowed terrorist attacks last month. The measure surged 15 percent in July, the sixth-best among 89 indexes worldwide tracked by Bloomberg, even after the bomb blasts at the J.W. Marriott and Ritz-Carlton hotels in the capital city of Jakarta killed nine people. ‘Healthy Correction’ PT Optima Kharya Capital Securities, part of Indonesia’s Optima group, whose fund was voted best mutual fund in the past two years by Indonesia’s Majalah Investor magazine, said recent gains have outpaced earnings potential. It predicts the Jakarta Composite may fall as much as 10 percent in the next month. The index declined 2.5 percent to 2,277.75 yesterday. “It will be a healthy correction,” Arief Budiman, head of research at Optima, said in an interview in Jakarta on Aug. 18. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
[ob] Only Way for Stocks, Commodities to Go Is Up: Charts
Prof JT, BG mantaff. Nanya PGAS JSMR boleh TA (tabruk aja)) ? Salam he2x Only Way for Stocks, Commodities to Go Is Up: Charts Published: Wednesday, 5 Aug 2009 | 9:29 With investors buying stocks and commodities and using the dollar as a carry trade, global stocks are just at the beginning of a significant trend higher, Chris Zwermann, global strategist at Zwermann Financial said Wednesday. ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[ob] Definisi saham murah
Mbah Senior OB, nubie mau nanya definisi saham yang murah apa seperti dibawah ini ? Berarti banyak emiten yang masih kemurahan donk ? Salam kompor Valuing Stocks Posted By:Tom Brennan An explanation of how Wall Street professionals value stocks could take all night, but Cramer has a simple rule of thumb that any home-gamer can use. Remember that E, the earnings, multiplied by M, the multiple, equals P, the price. That’s the price-to-earnings multiple. If a stock’s PE multiple is equal to or less than its growth rate, then that’s a cheap stock, Cramer said. A stock with a PE that’s twice the growth rate follows the opposite logic: Ten percent growth on a 20 multiple stock probably means it is time to take profits. Cramer learned this rule through hard-won experience. He knows that value investors are attracted to stocks close to their growth rate, which creates a floor. On the high end, growth investors rarely pay more than twice the growth rate, which creates a ceiling. Now the stockholder has a range for selling his wares. It’s good to hunt for value among stocks with PEs that are about one times the growth, but be careful not buy damaged goods. Plenty of inexpensive-looking stocks are actually quite pricey if the fundamentals are declining and the earnings are going to miss the estimates, Cramer said. Again, the opposite is true. A stock that’s trading with a multiple that is twice its growth rate looks expensive. But if its earnings need to be revised higher, its multiple will come down and it has more room to run. Bottom Line:When you value stocks, anything with a multiple that’s lower than the growth rate should be presumed cheap. Anything with a multiple that’s more than twice the growth rate is expensive. Nikmati chatting lebih sering di blog dan situs web. Gunakan Wizard Pembuat Pingbox Online. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
[ob] Awas, Profit Taking
Awas, Profit Taking Minggu, 28 Juni 2009 JAKARTA- Aksi aksi ambil untung (profit taking) akan menyertai perdagangan indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG) di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) awal pekan depan. Meskipun, nilai transaksi yang terus meningkat diprediksi menjadi katalis penguatan kembali. Nilai transaksi terus meningkat, meski besok diprediksi akan melemah karena aksi profit taking, kata analis PT Reliance Securities Tbk (RELI) Gina Novrina Nasution, saat berbincang dengan okezone, di Jakarta, Minggu (28/6/2009). Meskipun nilai transaksi yang masih cukup tinggi yaitu di atas Rp3 triliun pada penutupan awal pekan lalu, hal itu menandakan potensi terjadinya koreksi pada indeks Senin besok, meski aksi ambil untung investor mengikuti. Sebab, pemodal terlihat tetap bersemangat memanfaatkan momentum pergerakan positif (bullish) IHSG akhir pekan lalu. Dia mengakui, dari sisi teknis juga mendukung terjadi penguatan kembali pada indeks awal pekan ini. Bahkan, IHSG diperkirakan akan menutup gap pada level support di kisaran 2.008-1.979 dan resistance di kisaran 2.063-2.081. Awal pekan besok diperkirakan indeks akan mulai mengalami tekanan jual. Sebab, turunnya nilai transaksi pada Jumat lalu dibandingkan hari sebelumnya mengindikasikan investor mulai menahan diri membeli kembali. Aksi profit taking juga terlihat mulai terjadi pada beberapa saham unggulan, ungkapnya Salam Buat sendiri desain eksklusif Messenger Pingbox Anda sekarang! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
[ob] Oil May Top $250
Oil May Top $250, Says Gazprom CEO By: Reuters | 10 Jun 2009 | 11:49 AM ET A shortage of oil and gas investment means the sector will fail to meet demand when the global economy begins to recover, Gazprom Chief Executive Alexei Miller said on Wednesday There are no guarantees that further increases in oil demand will be supported by a sufficient growth in investments, the head of the Russian natural gas giant said. Nobody has solved the issue of the 2012 supply gap which may emerge later than thought but which will be deeper. It means prices may even jump over the $250 hurdle we have forecast a year ago, Miller said in a written text of a speech at a conference in Italy on the financial crisis and energy ayoBUMIkamubisa.com Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
[ob] Credit Suisse : BUMI ASII
Cut Taiwan to Buy Southeast Asia, Credit Suisse Says (Update1) June 8 (Bloomberg) -- Investors should switch from Taiwan to Southeast Asian stocks as the region’s discount to North Asia is among the largest on record, Credit Suisse Group AG said. Ratings for Thailand and the Philippines were raised to “overweight” from “underweight,” analysts Sakthi Siva and Kin Nang Chik wrote in a report today. Thai financial and energy companies and Philippine telephone companies were among the most undervalued, they said. Indonesia, Singapore Indonesian coal, palm oil and consumer companies and Singapore industrial stocks offer the largest discounts, the analysts added. The brokerage last month raised its rating on Singapore to “overweight” from “underweight” and upgraded Indonesia to “overweight” from “neutral.” An improving outlook for earnings in Southeast Asia is supporting Credit Suisse’s upgrade of the region, the report said. Analysts last month started raising earnings-per-share forecasts for Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia and Singapore, while Thailand had upgrades at the start of June. Thailand is one of the most “under-owned” among Asian emerging-markets, the analysts added. Kasikornbank Pcl, Thailand’s third-biggest commercial lender by assets, and Bank of Ayudhya Pcl, a lender controlled by General Electric Co., are among Thai stocks in Credit Suisse’s portfolio. The brokerage recommended that investors own shares of Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co., the nation’s largest phone company, and hold PT Bumi Resources and PT Astra International in Indonesia. Cepat, Bebas Iklan, Kapasitas Tanpa Batas - Dengan Yahoo! Mail Anda bisa mendapatkan semuanya. http://id.mail.yahoo.com
[ob] to Bill WTA , Minyak ke $ 70
Oil Could Rally Again Wednesday on Crude Inventories Published: Tuesday, 2 Jun 2009 | 6:20 PM ET Traders took a pause from the oil rally as it closed nearly flat at $68.55 Tuesday. Still, it could rally back toward the $70 mark Wednesday on the Energy Department's release of crude oil inventories, which are expected to show a decline. Bill, jadi batal nih IHSG ke 1600 ? Salam Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[ob] To Mr. DE : IHSG
Indonesia: A Must-Own Emerging Market May 19, 2009 I recently came across a new offering from Market Vector Funds, the Indonesia Index (IDX), and after doing some research I began to really like the prospects with the emerging economy. Portfolios looking to diversify some holdings into an emerging market will have a tough time finding a better place to invest for the future. The IDX sector breakdown is as follows: 29% Financials, 20% Energy, 17% Materials, 12% Consumer Staples, 7% Consumer Discretionary, 6% Telecom, 6% Utility, and 3% Industrials. More than 50% of the companies are considered mid-cap, with 41.8% large cap. The PE Ratio for the fund is around 13, which is extremely cheap considering the growth prospects as compared to comparable industries in other countries. Some of the largest components in the IDX include Bumi Resources, PT Astra, Bank Central Asia, Telecom Indonesia, Perusahaan Gas Negara, Bank Madiri, and Adaro Energy. Launched in January, the IDX has climbed 60% in 5 months, but still has room to rise when considering the Indonesian economic growth prospects combined with valuation and an upcoming political event that could be a favorable catalyst for the economy (think India, which gained 17% in one day on an election win today). It was reported in in the Jakarta Post, that Indonesian Presidential candidate Jusuf Kalla expects economic growth to accelerate to 8% per annum by 2011 if he wins the upcoming election, which would be competitive with the Chinese economy that is starting to slow with the rest of the World. Kalla also plans a progressive tax system and the construction of more coal-powered plants, which provides clues to individual investment ideas in Indonesia. Indonesia is rich with minerals, metals, oil and has a budding tourism industry. Indonesia is blowing away other Southeast Asian economies in GDP growth due to less reliance on exports, low interest rates and surging consumer confidence that creates the formula for an economy set to succeed for years to come. Recent agreements with Vietnam on mineral and energy ties is also bullish for the Indonesian markets. Indonesia has shown resillience and has swiftly recovered from the Southeast Asian crisis of the late 1990's through sound fiscal and monetary policies combined with rebuilding the country's infrastructure. Since 2003, Government debt as a percentage of GDP has almost been halved to around 30%, while inflation has settled in around 6%, and private investment has risen nearly 20%. The ongoing fiscal policy initiatives combined with the liberalization of the economy will make Indonesia a sound investment for years to come. Indonesia oil production has declined in recent years due to aging reserves and it formally exited OPEC in 2008, becoming an oil importer, but it ranks second in the world in liquefied natural gas exports and is less reliant on oil exports than in recent years. It also has the third largest amount of coal reserves in the world, ranks first in tin production, and has significant gold, silver, copper, and nickel deposits. With the fourth highest population in the World, around 240 million, private consumption is continuously expanding. Also, being made of 17,000+ islands makes it ideal for Agriculture, which the world will always have a need for, and it is a top exporter of palm oil (alternative fuel prospects), rubber, wood, tobacco, cocoa, coffee, tea, spices and shrimp. There are also encouraging signs of foreign investment coming in, as more favorable laws are passed, and reforms promote the investment process, as foreign direct investment jumped 150% from 2006 to 2007. The Indonesian (IDX) Fund will come with some added volatility (1.8 Beta and 36.45% annualized volatility) and may not be for the safer crowd, but offers possible huge returns, and has the lowest correlation of all economies to the developed markets that make it an attractive addition to any portfolio. I recently highlighted Indonesian Telecom (TLK) as a great investment idea for an individual stock in the region, but for traders with access to foreign markets, many of the mineral and coal plays trade at a valuation much lower than US counterparts, and offer attractive reward/risk scenarios. Cepat, Bebas Iklan, Kapasitas Tanpa Batas - Dengan Yahoo! Mail Anda bisa mendapatkan semuanya. http://id.mail.yahoo.com
[ob] KOMO naik
Cramer: This Rally Isn’t Over Friday, 8 May 2009 Investors can buy almost any bank for the next week, Cramer said, as this group emerges from the black hole into which the credit crisis had pulled it. In fact, he called this a once in a lifetime move in the financials. Oil Settles Above $58 on Hopes for Economic Revival By: Reuters | 08 May 2009 | 03:27 PM ET Oil settled above $58 barrel on Friday after positive data on the U.S. economy. Kompor.on Lebih bersih, Lebih baik, Lebih cepat - Yahoo! Mail: Kini tanpa iklan. Rasakan bedanya! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
[ob] Senin, apa yang turun Mbah ?
Mbah, kira2 saham apa yang akan turun untuk ngebalance komo yang naik ? Salam cuan Nubie Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger. Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[ob] Mbah, saya ikut prihatin
Mbah yang baik, nubie ikut prihatin atas dibanned milisnya sendiri. Atas signal yang diberikan Mbah Senior OB tentang wave 5 dari awal hingga CLOSED, saya ucapkan terima kasih. Hari ini nubie ikut rute pendek angkot Prof JT. Salam NB : sekalian test kirim posting tidak melewati obrolanbandar. ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[ob] The bear may finally be beaten...
Rally May Finally Beat Down Bear CNBC.com | 02 Apr 2009 | 03:00 PM The bear may finally be beaten. As investors digested this week's flurry of good news—or at least better-than-bad news—talk grew that the long slog through the debilitating bear market could be over. The world is not going to zero, Nadav Baum, managing director of investments at BPU Investment Management in Pittsburgh, says of investor sentiment these days. Things seem to be getting better. Deals are getting done and people have more swagger in their step. So maybe we are coming out of something. Salam kompor Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[ob] Global stocks set for best month in over 6 years
Global stocks set for best month in over 6 years uesday March 31, 2009, 4:32 am EDT LONDON (Reuters) - World stocks looked set on Tuesday to achieve their best monthly performance in more than six years in March, while commodity prices also rose and the Japanese yen fell. The MSCI World index (^MIWD0PUS - News) strengthened 0.6 percent and was on course to record its biggest monthly rise since October 2002. But the global stock index is still down more than 12 percent this quarter after losing 22.7 percent in the October-December period last year. The macro landscape has been stabilizing, which has helped equities bounce back from historical lows. But to really improve market sentiment, we need to see the data improving and not just stabilizing, Jacques Henry, analyst at Louis Capital markets in Paris. In Europe, the FTSEurofirst 300 (^FTEU3 - News) index advanced 1.8 percent, and UK retailer Marks Spencer (LSE:MKS.L - News) soared 10 percent after reporting a smaller-than-feared drop in fourth quarter underlying sales, lifting other embattled retailers. The FTSEurofirst 300 is also up for the month, but still down more than 13 percent in the first three months of the year. Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
[ob] Dangerous Unintended Consequences ..
Dangerous Unintended Consequences by Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D. Dear Subscriber, I've just returned from Washington, DC, where I held a press conference at the National Press Club and a round-robin series of meetings with members of Congress ... with more to come this week. Let me first tell you what I told them. Then, I'll explain what I think you should do about it ... Why Banking Bailouts, Buyouts, and Nationalizations Can Only Prolong America's Second Great Depression And Weaken Any Subsequent Recovery (Edited Transcript of Press Conference Presentation) The Fed Chairman, the Treasury Secretary and Congress have now done more to bail out financial institutions and pump up financial markets than any of their counterparts in history. But it's not nearly enough — and, at the same time, it's already far too much. Two years ago, when major banks announced multibillion-dollar losses in subprime mortgages, the world's central banks injected unprecedented amounts of cash into the financial markets. But that was not enough. Six months later, when Lehman Brothers and AIG fell, the U.S. Congress rushed to pass the TARP, the greatest bank bailout legislation of all time. But as it turned out, that wasn't sufficient either. Subsequently, in addition to the original goal of TARP, the U.S. government has loaned, invested, or committed $400 billion to nationalize the world's two largest mortgage companies ... $42 billion for the Big Three auto manufacturers ... $29 billion for Bear Stearns, $185 billion for AIG, and $350 billion for Citigroup ... $300 billion for the Federal Housing Administration Rescue Bill ... $87 billion to pay back JPMorgan Chase for bad Lehman Brothers' trades ... $200 billion in loans to banks under the Federal Reserve's Term Auction Facility (TAF) ... $50 billion to support short-term corporate IOUs held by money market mutual funds ... $500 billion to rescue various credit markets ... $620 billion in currency swaps for industrial nations ... $120 billion in swaps for emerging markets ... trillions to cover the FDIC's new, expanded bank deposit insurance, plus trillions more for other sweeping guarantees. And it STILL wasn't enough. If it had been enough, the Fed would not have felt compelled this week to announce its plan to buy $300 billion in long-term Treasury bonds, an additional $750 billion in agency mortgage backed securities, plus $100 billion more in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac paper. Total tally of government funds committed to date: Closing in on $13 trillion, or $1.15 trillion more than the tally just hours ago, when the body of this white paper was printed. And yet, even that astronomical sum is still not enough! Why not? Because of a series of very powerful reasons: First, most of the money is being poured into a virtually bottomless pit. Even while Uncle Sam spends or lends hundreds of billions, the wealth destruction taking place at the household level in America is occurring in the trillions — $12.9 trillion vaporized in real estate, stocks, and other assets since the onset of the crisis, according to the Fed's latest Flow of Funds. Second, most of the money from the government is still a promise, and even much of the disbursed funds have yet to reach their destination. Meanwhile, all of the wealth lost has already hit home — literally, in the household. Third, the government has been, and is, greatly underestimating the magnitude of this debt crisis. Specifically, The FDIC's Problem List of troubled banks includes only 252 institutions with assets of $159 billion. However, based on our analysis, a total of 1,568 banks and thrifts are at risk of failure with assets of $2.32 trillion due to weak capital, asset quality, earnings, and other factors. (The details are in Part I of our white paper, and the institutions are named in Appendix A.) When Treasury officials first planned to provide TARP funds to Citigroup, they assumed it was among the strong institutions and that the funds would go primarily toward stabilizing the markets or the economy. But even before the check could be cut, they learned that the money would have to be for a very different purpose: an emergency injection of capital to prevent Citigroup's collapse. Based on our analysis, however, Citigroup is not alone. We could witness a similar outcome for JPMorgan Chase and other major banks. (See Part II of our white paper.) AIG is big. But it, too, is not alone. Yes, in a February 26 memorandum, AIG made the case that its $2 trillion in credit default swaps (CDS) would have been the big event that could have caused a global collapse. And indeed, its counterparties alone have $36 trillion in assets. But AIG's CDS portfolio is just one of many: Citibank's portfolio has $2.9 trillion, almost a trillion more than AIG's at its peak. JPMorgan Chase has $9.2 trillion, or almost five times more than AIG. And globally, the Bank of International Settlements reports a total of $57.3
[obrolan-bandar] Chartist Analyist yang jago
Mbah Senior OB, ramalan chartist DOW ke 7500 memang NYARIS terbukti (terlampir dibawah sebagian) Tapi mereka masih kalah ama Mbah Senior2 yang suka kasih KOMANDO SIGNAL. Thanks Peter D. Schiff says economy heading to first depression since 1930 Posted: Oct 28, 2008 4:04 PM Peter Schiff or Dr. Doom sees the economy heading to its first depression since 1930. He sees the Dow heading to 7,500, 6000, 5,000 or lower we just have to wait and see. He also says in 5 years the Dow will be below where it is today and Obama's term will be known as the depression era president. Ride the Wave Back To 7500 December 3rd, 2008 The market is looking at a weaker open today after yesterday’s textbook rally following Monday’s collapse. The options recommended in the last post are still worth holding if you did not cash out yesterday for a quick double. At the close yesterday, I added some December 80 put options in the Diamonds Trust index (DIA today:75.75 Hi/Low 52wk:74.50-131.29) for $279 per contract. Today is not looking good, and several pieces of news support a further decline. Research in Motion (RIMM today:44.64 Hi/Low 52wk:35.09-148.13) started things off by cutting earnings and revenue targets for the third quarter. The Labor Department also announced productivity growth for workers has dropped from 3.6% in Q2 to 1.3 in Q3. And later in the week, we get more unemployment numbers, which are also expected to rise. This week could be extremely ugly but I am playing it rather conservative with the 80 puts. They should open above $300 today but I am expecting a double within the next week. For higher risk/reward, if the DOW does take a dive back toward 7500 then any put with a strike in the low 7000’s could lead to a triple or more with a potential freefall on the horizon. Apakah demonstrasi turun ke jalan itu hal yang wajar? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] OOT :Dream liner untuk si KOMO ?
Dear Senior OB, Apakah stimulus $ 787b -Boeing Dream liner akan berpengaruh untuk harga komodity ? diantaranya $120b untuk infrastructure. Naik Boeing jarak-dekat juga boleh. Terima kasih atas saran2-nya. Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT : judul bombatis lagee..
Dear OB, Jangan2 Inilah.com cocok buat tukang c. Salam he..he 11/02/2009 - 04:52 BUMI SOS, IHSG Bakal Tenggelam! INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Wajah muram Bursa Efek Indonesia kemungkinan akan terpancar lagi pada perdagangan Rabu ini (11/2), yang lagi-lagi diakibatkan faktor eksternal. Hancurnya indeks Dow Jones lebih dari 380 poin semalam dan anjloknya harga minyak mentah di bawah US$ 38 per barel, tak dipungkiri akan menjadi penghambat paling besar terhadap pergerakan harga saham di bursa regional dan bursa lokal hari ini. IHSG yang kemarin mulai berkurang tekanannya karena pulihnya beberapa saham unggulan, dan juga berkat dorongan kuat dari saham Bumi Resources (BUMI), sepertinya tidak akan terjadi lagi hari ini. Asumsi itu cukup kuat karena melihat begitu besarnya penurunan yang terjadi di bursa saham terbesar dunia itu dan juga di pasar minyak. Saham-saham tambang yang kerap menjadi market mover kemungkinan akan mengalami tekanan hebat. Apalagi muncul pernyataan dari Menteri Perminyakan Aljazair Chakib Khelil bahwa OPEC tidak akan terlalu memaksakan diri untuk mengurangi lagi produksinya jika minyak stabil di kisaran US$ 40 per barel. Selain itu, hancurnya saham-saham perbankan di Wall Street terkait dengan kecemasan pasar atas kemungkinan tidak berjalannya rencana Depkeu AS senilai US$ 2 triliun, diperkirakan akan mengirimkan sentimen negatif ke pasar regional dan global. Dengan tekanan yang begitu hebat di pasar minyak itu, kemngkinan akan memberikan sinyal negatif terhadap investor Bumi Resources (BUMI), yang paa perdagangan kemarin cukup kuat menahan indeks agar tak jatuh terlalu dalam. Pemanasan global? Apa sih itu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] 'Darah' Masih akan Menetes di BEI
Dear OB, judul yang bombatis Salam 10/02/2009 - 05:01 'Darah' Masih akan Menetes di BEI INILAH.COM, Jakarta - 'Pendarahan' yang terjadi di Bursa Efek Indonesia Senin (9/2), sepertinya akan berlanjut hari ini jika mengacu pada kondisi eksternal yang mendukung ke arah pelemahan. Perdagangan di Wall Street yang berakhir mixed, dengan penguatan hanya dinikmati indeks Standard Poor's 500, sementara Dow Jones dan Nasdaq teronggok di zona negatif, tentu akan menjadi pertimbangan tersendiri bagi investor untuk bertransaksi hari ini. Investor di Wall Street semalam dicemaskan oleh belum golnya pembahasan paket stimulus Barack Obama senilai lebih dari US$ 800 miliar, yang diharapkan dapat segera membangkitkan perekonomian AS. Selain itu, laporan keuangan dari sejumlah perusahaan raksasa AS yang diperkirakan memburuk, juga membuat investor was was. Ditambah lagi dengan kabar anjloknya harga minyak mentah di bawah level US$ 40 per barel, langsung merontokkan harga saham-saham energi. Tentu kondisi itu menggerus indeks harga saham di bursa saham terbesar dunia itu. Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[obrolan-bandar] Raw materials rally, fuelled by oil, metals gains
Raw materials rally, fuelled by oil, metals gains * Reuters, Monday December 15 2008 * Industrial raw materials rally; eye OPEC cuts, China boost * Copper, oil up more than 2 pct, rubber surges 7 pct By Nick Trevethan SINGAPORE, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Industrial raw materials led commodities higher on Monday, as investors anticipated big cuts by oil producer cartel OPEC this week and on hopes that Beijing's plans to reflate its economy will boost demand for base metals. Sentiment also got a lift from sharp gains in Asian equity markets, declines in the dollar, and hopes that the White House can salvage plans, scuttled by lawmakers on Friday, for a lifeline for U.S. auto industry. London copper futures bounced more than 2.8 percent and crude oil rose 2.2 percent after China announced plans to boost money supply by 17 percent over the weekend and investors anticipated tighter energy supplies. U.S. light crude for for January delivery rose $1.04 to $47.34 a barrel by 0630 GMT, having risen earlier to $47.41. OPEC ministers are in agreement on the need to cut output when they meet on Wednesday in Algeria to prop up sagging prices, OPEC President Chakib Khelil said on Saturday, but declined to say by how much the organisation would cut. OPEC's bullish comments on supply cuts, such as 2 million barrels per day, is supporting the price, said Ken Hasegawa, a commodity derivatives sales manager at broker Newedge in Tokyo. Iran will propose that OPEC cuts its oil output by between 1.5 and 2 million bpd, Iran's oil minister was quoted as saying on Sunday. China aims to increase its money supply by 17 percent in 2009, Beijing said over the weekend, as it unveiled a broad blueprint for easing financial conditions to help oil the wheels of the world's fourth-largest economy. That's a very big increase relative to growth and inflation expectations, and if (banks) can be induced to lend, it should significantly reflate the economy, said Wensheng Peng, economist at Barclays Capital in Hong Kong. HATI2 nyangkut tanggung sendiri Coba Yahoo! Messenger 9.0 baru. Akhirnya datang juga! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] DOW naik 11 % Oil 8 %
Dow's biggest 2-day run since '87 Citigroup rescue and Obama economic team picks propel stocks. Dow sees its biggest two-session point gain ever and biggest two-session percentage gain in 21 years. Oil to $80 as OPEC Cut Expected OPEC meets Nov. 29 to consider further output cuts as oil's price continues to fall. Gareth Lewis-Davies from Dresdner Kleinwort sees the oil cartel cutting production and the cut stabilizing the market. He also sees oil at $80 by year end. Disclaimer kompor ...ON Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Polling the big 3 auto industries
Dear Senior OB, DOW new low. Bagaimana kalau the big 3, tidak di bail out ? ... Salam CNBC Poll: Tell Us What You Think What happens if the auto industry doesn't get a government bailout? * 21085 responses Big selloff in stock market 48% Little selloff 31% No selloff 12% Don't know 9% ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Akra Sobi
Dear Senior OB, AKRA SOBI 2 bersaudara apakah mau turun lagi ? Adakah CA yang membuat turun ? Kinerja Q3 AKRA kemarin bagus. Thanks atas infonya ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Commodities...
In Times of 'Zombie Banks,' Buy Commodities: Jim Rogers | 22 Oct 2008 | 05:51 AM The fundamentals for commodities were not affected by government policies that are propagating inflation, Jim Rogers, CEO of Rogers Holdings, told CNBC Wednesday. I bought more agriculture this week, Rogers told Squawk Box Europe. What's happening is that there will be less supply of everything if we ever come out of (the credit crunch). Nobody can get a loan for a zinc mine or, long term, increase crop production. If history is any guide, things to buy are things that are doing fine right now like water treatment companies in Asia or agriculture, Rogers added. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke should resign for keeping alive zombie banks that should be allowed to fail, he said. The Japanese government refused to let financial institutions fail in the 1990s, Rogers said. It's 18 years later and their stock market is 75 or 80 percent below what it was 18 years ago, he added. Rogers also said that interest-rate cuts are coming. I know we are going to get aggressive rate cuts everywhere, that's why I'm long short-term government bonds in the U.S., but shorting long-term government bonds because it's not going to help, it's going to add to inflation, he said. dstdst Apa dia selingkuh?
[obrolan-bandar] OOT : reduksi 1 atau 2 juta barrel ?
OPEC Wants You To Pay More for Gas By Vivienne Walt/Paris Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2008 For many consumers, the only silver lining on the global financial crisis has been the falling oil price it has precipitated. But OPEC is determined to put an end to the relief at the gas pump. Concerned to protect their countries' financial health, oil ministers from the 13 members of the cartel of oil-producing countries meet in Vienna on Friday with only one item on their agenda — cutting their oil output in order to drive up world prices. Oil prices have been slashed by more than half in just three months, from $147 a barrel in July to as low as $67.50 a barrel on Wednesday. That has prompted current OPEC president, Algerian Oil Minister Chakib Kjelil, to propose that the group cut up to 2 million barrels from its daily 32-million barrel output, hoping to push the price back up to about $90 a barrel. The effect would be to raise prices in the U.S. and Europe, just when Western leaders are scrambling to soften the landing of their slowing economies. OPEC's proposal, fumed British Prime Minister Gordon Brown last Friday, is absolutely scandalous.Never much loved outside of its member states, OPEC is a convenient whipping boy for leaders responding to consumer pain, but oil analysts say it may not deserve all the blame. Its members have certainly earned mammoth windfalls from rocketing oil prices over the past year, but some face the prospect of domestic political upheaval if oil prices fall too low. The recent windfall has, for example, given Iran — OPEC's second-biggest oil producer — a cushion to neutralize the impact of Western sanctions over its nuclear program, and to ameliorate the effect of a struggling economy. But because Iran imports crucial refined diesel to keep its cars and factories running, it needs to sell its crude oil for $60 a barrel or more, according to oil analysts. So, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has plenty of incentive to push his OPEC colleagues to vote for production cuts: If falling prices force his government to cut its heavy gasoline subsidies, he won't help his chances of reelection in a tough presidential race next June. There is a lot of popular unrest when they cut subsidies or put on gas quotas, says Robert Johnston, Director of Energy for the Eurasia Group in Washington. For similar reasons, Venezuela President Hugo Chavez wants OPEC to cut production by about 1 million barrels a day, warning that his country would face dire economic problems if oil prices continue falling.The needs of gas-guzzling Western nations, however, are exactly the opposite. Ironically, though, a falling world oil price negates the goal stated by Barack Obama and John McCain to cut America's dependence on foreign oil, especially from the volatile Middle East. That's because although it only accounts for about one-fifth of U.S. imports, oil from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Middle Eastern countries is much cheaper to produce than the more politically popular alternative of oil drilled in Canada or the United States. Even more than the lower prices, OPEC leaders have been jolted by the lightning speed with which they have tumbled. But their influence over prices is more limited than many in Western countries believe, or OPEC members would like: OPEC members, in fact, produces only one-third of the world's oil; the rest comes from Canada, Russia, Mexico, and several smaller countries. ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] CNBC Poll Bail out : abis lebaran
Dear OB, iseng2 ikut poll CNBC mengenai bailout : CNBC Poll: What Do You Think? When do you think Congress will pass the financial bailout bill? * 23317 responses Over the weekend 36% Friday 21% Not until next week 19% Never 14% Don't know 6.3% Thursday 3.7% ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] TA: EUR?USD Next Week
Thanks pak Jos, kayaknya euro naik terus, khan dollar lagi banjir. Saham komo nanjak terus. Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 19 September, 2008 23:28:49 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] TA: EUR?USD Next Week EUR/USD membentuk TRIANGLE FLAG (segitiga warna kuning), kemungkinan minggu depan akan BOUNCING di dalam segitiga tsb. Bila menembus keatas maka EURO akan meneruskan RALLY, demikian juga komoditi. Bila sebaliknya grafik menembus ke bawah maka EURO akan koreksi ke 1.3880-1.3775, demikian juga komoditi IHSG akan KOREKSI. Gambar: (bila tidak keliatan bisa KLIK DISINI: EURUSD TRIANGLE ) Good Luck rgs, JM ___ Coba emoticon dan skin keren baru, dan area teman yang luas. Coba Y! Messenger 9 Indonesia sekarang. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Panic buying
Ibu Tan, newbie ikutan aja apa kata Ibu. abis bener sih... Salam Thanks - Pesan Asli Dari: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 19 September, 2008 16:16:41 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Panic buying Puihhh.. very tired in a busy market.. panic buying, you may call it. Sorry forgot to sent you email yesterday and today.. maintain balance cash and equity :-) 1900 resistance but still room to go up.. ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Elaine...2 thumb up
Postingan Ibu Elaine soal oil kebawah $ 90 mungkin bisa mungkin juga tidak. tapi jelas nembus $ 100. Artinya Elaine bisa ngalahain Goldman CNN Money straff writer. Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 17 September, 2008 17:57:51 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Goldman Sach menurunkan target oil dari 147 ke 115 (bloomberg) Goldman Sach menurunkan target oil dari 147 ke 115 (bloomberg) Dulu ketika minyak mau turun, GS prediksi minyak minyak akan naik ke 147. Masih mending battery mobil GS, engga banyak prediksi...hehehe. .. ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Berkat OENTOENG...jadi cuan
Berkat hint dari pak Oentoeng, kalo bull rider. newbie cuan walau keluarnya kecepetan. Thanks pak, keep posting pls - Pesan Asli Dari: oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 16 September, 2008 12:11:33 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Gelar Pendekar Tangan Kosong .Re: MITOS si BEJO (The Untold Story) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ ... wrote: Sekarang ini kalau sudah banyak yg bosan bahkan muak dengan postingan saya, lebih baik saya take a rest dulu sambil nungguin apakah level 15xx bisa terlihat pada tahun ini? Tadi jam 09:48 BEI telah mencapai mencapai 1598.702 Berarti sudah MATCH... Target berikutnya: 13xx Semoga bisa membantu... Sehingga sedekah yg anda salurkan TIDAK SALAH ALAMAT!? Very sorry ini memang bukan prediksi untuk harian, tapi sesuai permintaan yaitu untuk masa mendatang... Good Luck ! Oentoeng ___ Dapatkan info tentang selebritis - Yahoo! Indonesia Search. http://id.search.yahoo.com/search?p=selebritiscs=bzfr=fp-top
[obrolan-bandar] Buat penyebar rumor FED RATE UP
Bernanke May Be Wrong: Next Fed Rate Move Might Be Down, Not Up Sept. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and his fellow policy makers agreed at their August meeting that their next move on interest rates would probably be up. They may turn out to be wrong. Inflation looks likely to ebb, thanks to falling commodity prices and contained labor costs. The U.S. economy, meanwhile, may be set to take another lurch down as consumer spending gives way and the credit crunch intensifies with the plunge inLehman Brothers Holdings Inc.'s shares. ``If the consumer balance sheet starts to unwind quickly, you'd get another disinflationary force and then the Fed would be brought back into play with lower rates,'' says Mohammed El- Erian, co-chief executive officer of Pacific Investment Management Co. in Newport Beach, California. Bernanke and his colleagues are likely to hold their benchmark rate at 2 percent when they meet Sept. 16 and may keep it there until 2009, trading in federal funds futures indicates. Still, the odds of a rate cut by year-end have been growing. As of yesterday, futures trading showed about a one-in-three chance of a December reduction, up from zero odds at the beginning of September. San Francisco Fed President Janet Yellen left open the possibility of a rate cut in comments to reporters after a Sept. 4 speech in Salt Lake City. ``There is some chance'' of easing credit ``if things start going seriously wrong,'' she said. Policy Decision She made clear, though, that she agreed with her fellow policy makers, who ``generally anticipated that the next policy move would be a tightening,'' according to the minutes of the Fed's last meeting on Aug. 5. If the Fed instead ends up lowering borrowing costs, it wouldn't be the first time Bernanke and his colleagues have been forced to shift their stance from fighting inflation to supporting growth. When the credit crisis first struck in August 2007, the Fed cut its discount rate on loans to banks just 10 days after declaring that inflation was its overriding concern. Investors have remained on edge since then, even after the Fed-assisted takeover of Bear Stearns Cos. in March and the rescue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac this month. Shares in Lehman Brothers dropped more than 70 percent this week as the firm reported a record $3.9 billion loss for the third quarter and concern mounted about its capital levels. ___ Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] BBRI masuk top asia versi Forbes...tapi jatuh paling dalam
Dear Senior OB, BBRI jatuh paling dalam. Salam sama2 nyangkut besok ! he2x The Fab 50 1. Acer 2. Angang Steel 3. Asustek Computer 4. Bank Rakyat Indonesia 5. Bharat Heavy Electricals 6. Bharti Airtel 7. BHP Billiton 8. Brambles 9. Cheung Kong Holdings 10. China Construction Bank Bank Rakyat Indonesia 09.03.08, 6:00 PM ET Previous: Asustek Computer Next:Bharat Heavy Electricals Industry: Banking Country: Indonesia Size Valuation Performance Market Value $8.1 bil Forward P/E 12 5 yr avg ROC 1 22% Sales $2.7 bil Price to Sales 2.6 EPS Growth Est 2 21% Dividend Yield 3.4% Lends to small business, including the woman in the market selling vegetables, farmers raising chickens and growing rice, traders taking the rice to market, weavers, fishermen and cooks. The government owns 57%, but Bank Rakyat, which means People's Bank, claims to have been profitable for 20 years, even during the Asian financial crisis. 570 branches across Indonesia's mostly rural archipelago collect savings from 33 million mostly lower-income customers. Does good and does well; return on capital has averaged 22% over the last 5 years. - Pesan Asli Dari: Efendi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 5 September, 2008 15:43:41 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Serbu Finansial Stock NOW!! Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Semoga hari ini IHSG naik disemua sektor
Dear para senior OB, Semoga doa newbie terkabul. DJIA walau volume tipis tapi hijau minyak juga naik gara2 Gustav datang sampai 5 hari kedepan.Salam Sector summary DJIA Sector Change Basic Materials +0.70% Capital Goods +0.30% Conglomerates -0.16% Cons. Cyclical +0.66% Cons. Non-Cyclical -0.54% Energy +1.30% Financial +0.44% Healthcare +0.11% Services +0.02% Technology -0.15% Transportation +0.15% Utilities +0.73% Gustav Biggest Threat to Gulf Oil Since Katrina Aug.26 1:56 PM ET The oil market's taking notice that Hurricane Gustav could be the first major storm to wreak havoc with Gulf of Mexico oil production areas in several years, and it should be clear by the weekend just how serious that threat could be. This could be the most significant storm in that area since Katrina and Rita in 2005, said John Kilduff, M.F. Global senior vice president. Oil prices are up today on both concern about Hurricane Gustav and on increasing geopolitical tension, as Russia formally recognized the breakaway Georgian regions. Gustav is a category one hurricane and could soon reach category two level. Natural gas futures were also up sharply. Oil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 116.40.13 (+0.11%) ], though, is off its highs for the day, and GRZ Energy's Anthony Grisanti told CNBC's Rebecca Jarvis at the NYMEX that some models are showing that the hurricane could cross the Gulf south of the oil production areas, reducing the risk. I think the bottom's in for now. I don't see $115 (per barrel) being tested, said Kilduff, a CNBC contributor. The storm situation may be serious enough to get us back over $120 and possibly maintaining that level. ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] BI Rate
Pak JM, ada kemungkinan BI rate naik 0,25 % lagi di awal Sep. Kalau nggak salah, salah satu yang prediksi itu adalah UBS deh. Ada komentar lain dari rekan OB ?Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 27 Agustus, 2008 08:32:42 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] FOMC Minutes Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) setuju untuk menaikkan RATE. Tetapi tidak dijelaskan kapan timingnya, jadi SAMA AJA BOHONG. Bisa bulan depan, 3 bulan lagi atau malah tahun depan. Traders malah pesimis tahun ini bakal ada kenaikan. Karena survey mengatakan hanya ada 22% kemungkinan FED Rate bakal NAIK 0.25% sampai akhir tahun. Good News-nya, FED Rate belum akan naik dalam waktu dekat: 1. Memberi napas untuk oil rebound dulu. Saham komoditi bakal ikutan naik. 2. BI Rate yang sudah naik 100 basis poin. Tetapi FED Rate belum naik sedikitpun masih di 2%. Tentu konyol kalo BI RATE tetap naik bulan September ini. Jadi kemungkinan BI Rate TETAP, good for Banking Property. rgs, JM ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Opa Buffet nambah NRG Energy Conoco
Dear All, opa Buffet nambah saham NRG Energy Conoco. yang lihainya : nambah pas lagi turun. Salam Aug.14 5:32 PM ET Warren Buffett Adds NRG Energy Stake, May Have Bet Against InBev's Bid for Anheuser-Busch Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway has added a new stake in NRG Energy according to a just-released portfolio 'snapshot' of its holdings in U.S. publicly-traded stocks as of June 30. At today's closing price of $35.22, the 3.2 million shares are worth about $113 million. NRG shares are down from a near-term high of about $44 in mid-June, so Buffett may have taken a short-term hit on his new holding in the Texas energy provider. The Berkshire filing also says that some confidential information has been omitted from the portfolio listing, including information regarding Berkshire's position in ConocoPhillips I assume that means Berkshire is adding to its position in Conoco, listed at 17.5 million shares worth $1.33 billion as of March 31, but there's no way to know for sure. We also don't know if Conoco is the only stock included in the secret part of Berkshire's filing with the SEC. Buffett oftens gets permission to temporarily hold back information on some holdings to thwart 'copycats.' Today's SEC filingdoes reveal additions to Berkshire's stakes in Sanofi Aventisand Ingersoll-Rand Berkshire's stake in Ingersoll soared more than 500 percent, from 937,000 shares on March 31 to 5.6 million shares on June 30. The Sanofi stake increased by 8.8 percent, or 317,200 shares to 3.9 million shares. (The number of Berkshire's Union Pacific shares doubled from the first quarter due to a 2-for-1 stock split in late May.) ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] ITMG ...tobathh dah...
Newbie sekarang minus dikit, beli dibawah. Kalo besok masih turun... bisa gulung2..cape d.. - Pesan Asli Dari: Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 13 Agustus, 2008 16:21:22 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] ITMG ada apa? Revenue up by 51%, tp harga stock ITMG dihajar -9% ada apa yah? Miss expectation? Sudah boleh dicollect di harga segini? ___ Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT : Golok nancap dikelapa.....
Dear OB, dikiranya turun cuma 5-7 %, nggak taunya ada yang sampai 10 %. yachgolok nancap dikelapa... Salam sama2 nyangkut yuk ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Stocks Ready to Rally Now That Worst Is Over: Analyst
Dear all, agar jangan nyungsep terus...posting ya enak2 aja.he2x Stocks Ready to Rally Now That Worst Is Over: Analyst By CNBC.com | 11 Aug 2008 | 05:38 AM ET Just the potential for a U.S. recovery will bring the enormous amounts of under-invested cash back into the stock market and could send shares higher in the near tem, Philip Manduca, head of investments at ECU Group told Squawk Box Europe. I do believe there is a sentiment out there, right or wrong, that the US is going to recover, he said. There is this feeling that the worst is behind us in terms of the housing market … and there is a feeling that economic indicators that are coming out (of the U.S.) are less bad than they were estimated to be. I know that there's an enormous amount of money on the sidelines that is under-invested… if you get any further rally in the US market it will self-propel, Manduca added. Inflation in the U.S. and Western Europe is not domestic, but imported and this may bring relief to investors who may expect central banks to embark on an easing cycle, Manduca added. But economic growth prospects are still gloomy and getting into the equity markets is still tough, he said. The current correction in the price of oil shows that speculators have driven the market for the past six months and they were allowed to do so because it was one of the few areas where banks were still making money, he said.But commodities prices will remain high, with the price of oil depending on how much Asia, and especially China, will slow down in the following months, Manduca added ___ Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Plantation shares seen dragging Malaysia stocks lower
FYI, Pak JM, ABN, Senior OB, namanya juga ramalan. Salam Plantation shares seen dragging Malaysia stocks lower Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:45pm EDT KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 11 (Reuters) - Malaysian stocks are expected to ease on Monday, with more selling pressure likely in the plantation stocks amidst falling crude palm oil prices, dealers said. We see a further slide in the CPO prices, as supply is exceeding demand, while declining crude oil prices have also lowered the attraction for biofuel, said a dealer at a major local brokerage house. This means that the plantation stocks, including big caps like Sime Darby and IOI Corp are likely to see more selling and could drag the index down, the dealer said. Sime Darby (SIME.KL: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) is Malaysia's biggest listed firm, while IOI Corp (IOIB.KL: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) is ranked sixth in terms of market capitalisation. Both the firms lost 10.26 percent and 9.45 percent respectively last week, much more than the nearly 2.5 percent fall in the benchmark Kuala Lumpur Stock Index .KLSE. On Friday, the index closed 0.9 percent lower at 1,120.31 points. The August index futures KLIQ8 put the index at 1,118.0 points. Dealers said the next support level for the index was seen at 1,098 points. ___ Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] BBKP apa kabar ?
Pak JM, Aria S. Senior OB, Mohon pencerahan dihari yang INDAH he2X. Omong2 BBKP beberapa hari ini volume gendut2 (tgl 8, 6,5) tapi harga mandeg di 400. Kalo mau turun, nggak usah bilang2. Salam. NB : Kalo minyak turun terus, maka bursa IDX bakal ANEH. Banyak yang nyangkut. ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT : Semoga ada angin segar di Selasa Malam
Dear Senior OB, Semoga ada angin segar di Selasa Malam dari si botak. Kalo mengharap emas hitam turun dalam sih sulit. Wah, kalo tak ada angin segar bisa berantakan. Salam dari newbie yang mo blanja Senin. Japan close to declaring recession By David Pilling in Tokyo, FT Published: August 3 2008 17:47 | Last updated: August 3 2008 17:47 Japan’s government may be forced to declare that the country has entered a technical recession, according to several economists, although any downturn is likely to be far shallower than previous contractions in 2001 and 1998. - Pesan Asli Dari: abank_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 1 Agustus, 2008 07:10:21 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT : Enaknya...belanja di SENIN Rasanya hari ini ada koreksi. Jadi belanjanya lebih murah hari ini kan? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote: Dear Senior OB, mohon advice : apakah belanja lebih mudah di hari Senin ? Salam hormat. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ wrote: Dear Senior OB, enak jualan dulu. mumpung porto biru semua. Salam CUAN ! ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Juli, minyak akan turun terus ?
Pak JM Senior OB, apakah minyak bakal turun karena Arab + Angola mulai menaikkan produksi minyak di Juli stagnant demand menguatnya $. Salam NB : jangan liat prediksi Analis kalo minyak menuju $83/barrel (CNBC) ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Minyak - 1,78 % tapi coal + 6 % jadi....
Dear OB, jadi Senin beli saham coal aja...Salam ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ coal intraday 25_7_08.php Description: Binary data
[obrolan-bandar] Minyak $125 Coal - 4,19 %
Maaf pak Rheza, baru bisa balas. Coal bisa dilihat di DOW Jones coal index (DOWI:DJUSCL) (terlampir)...Salam NB : Disclaimer ONwong cuma bisa copy paste he2x Oil Settles Below $125, Hitting a Six-Week Low Sectors:Oil and Gas By Reuters | 23 Jul 2008 | 09:40 AM ET Oil prices fell $4 to a six-week low Wednesday after a U.S. government report reinforced concerns high prices and economic turmoil were slashing into the nation's energy demand. The slide extends oil's losses to more than $20 from the all-time peak above $147 a barrel hit July 11—the steepest drop in dollar terms in the market's history. The deteriorating demand picture reinforces our belief that oil prices are approaching a tipping point, investment bank Lehman Brothers said in a research note. U.S. crude oil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 124.480.04 (+0.03%)] fell $3.98 to settle at $124.44 a barrel after touching a low of $124.30. London Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] 125.35-4.20 (-3.24%)] crude fell $4.11 to $125.44 a barrel. The losses came after the U.S. Energy Information Administration released a report showing a surprisingly large increase in domestic gasoline stockpiles last week, accompanied by weak implied demand. - Pesan Asli Dari: kspm_rheza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 23 Juli, 2008 08:38:09 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Coal - 6,85 % Oil turun $3 dapet data Coal intraday di US -6,85 % tu liatnya dmn pak? thx b4 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sulistyo Winarto sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote: Pak JM Senior OB, Bakal merah tuakah IHSG hari ini ? Coal intraday di US -6,85 % sempat sampai - 8%. Minyak sempat turun $ 5. SALAM _ _ _ _ _ _ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail. com. http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/attachment: coal intraday 23_7_08.gif
[obrolan-bandar] Coal - 6,85 % Oil turun $3
Pak JM Senior OB, Bakal merah tuakah IHSG hari ini ? Coal intraday di US -6,85 % sempat sampai - 8%. Minyak sempat turun $ 5. SALAM ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] YPAS...bandarnya sadizz
Dear OB, Ada yang suka YPAS sikarung plastik ? Seperti perangkap serangga. Harga dinaikin, lalu setelah laler pada ngumpul. Harga diturunin - 8 % hingga ke 460. Sore dinaikin ke 490. Kalau udah CL semua, dikerek lagi ke 600. Salam. ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Iklan : sektor2 yang naik
Dear OB, Kalo ngikutin DJIA sektor yang naik adalah : Sector summary Sector Change Basic Materials -0.06% Capital Goods +2.39% Conglomerates +2.66% Cons. Cyclical +3.57% Cons. Non-Cyclical +0.91% Energy -1.24% Financial +6.69% Healthcare +0.55% Services +3.08% Technology +2.43% Transportation +5.31% Utilities -0.76% ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Turun semua..
Pak JM, newbie SETUJU BANGET NGET !! Salam. BBRI UNVR moga2 naik - Pesan Asli Dari: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 15 Juli, 2008 08:46:48 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Turun semua.. :-( SttBank, Consumer, infrastructure ! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ ... wrote: CPO turun, Coal turun, nikel turun.. Apa dong yang naik supaya IHSG gak ikut turun? ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Cum date, update
Dear OB, Mohon inputan update cum-date terbaru Tgl 15/7 : GJTL Rp 5, HEXA Rp 21 Tgl 16/7 : TPIA Rp 200 Tgl 17/7 : TINS Rp 1772 Tgl 21/7 : ANTM Rp 215,2 Tgl 28/7 : BUMI Rp 45, TSPC Rp 25 Salam Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi Anti-Virus dan Anti-Adware gratis. Download Yahoo! Toolbar sekarang. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] OOT : Plywood rekan
Dear OB, harga plywood rekan di thn 2008 2007. Harga FOB Indonesia Malay Brasil. Penurunan import US, mungkin karena krisis perumahan. Mudah-mudahan tidak mempengaruhi emiten di Indonesia. Salam ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] PGAS....poco-poco
Pak Aria S Senior OB, tul khan PGAS poco2 di 12350 ? tapi support kayaknya kuat di 12300 an. BUY atau sabar nunggu di 11500 ? Salam ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Asian palm-oil industry rating outlook positive - Moody's
Mbah, nebeng nonton BF di Lampung .Salam Asian palm-oil industry rating outlook positive - Moody's | 26 Jun 2008 | 02:09 AM ET MUMBAI (Thomson Financial) - Moody's Investors Service said it has a positive rating outlook for the Asia Pacific's rated palm-oil industry over the next 12 to 18 months after a rapid rise and continued high prices for crude palm oil (CPO) in the past 18 months strengthened balance sheets of Asian palm-oil producers, who responded by buying more plantations and increased planting of greenfield properties. Peter Choy, Moody's vice president, senior credit officer and the lead author of the report, said most issuers are now more inclined to focus on organic growth, to delay their downstream, bio-diesel projects due to higher feedstock costs and to avoid new purchases amid higher asset prices. The positive outlook for the sector will not necessarily translate into upgrades for rated firms because the market is at a cyclical peak and some issuers are still integrating earlier expansions or are still small, Choy said. ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT : komoditas Beras tidak naik... syukur
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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP...tobat2 dech
Thanks pak Vincent Hani P., emang jitu nasehatnya. Mbok ya posting ulasan CPO cepetan gituu. Kayaknya si Minyak yang bikin susah bakalan naik lagi ya ? Thanks - Pesan Asli Dari: Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 26 Juni, 2008 17:34:42 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP...tobat2 dech dgn harga cpo yg koreksi dibawah trendline, pajak export dinaikin 5% knp unsp musti naik cepet cepet Prasetyo, Hani Hani.Prasetyo@ standardchartere d.com wrote: Om Sulis kecepetan masuknya…. Kalo ngungsep ke 1700 – 1800 baru oke masuknya… CPO lagi koreksi… PE…. Mungkin udah mulai musim panen SAWIT ya… Temen2 ada yang punya report industri sawit yg bahas dari proses tanam sampei CPO siap ekspor.. tolong dishare dong From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Sulistyo Winarto Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:47 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP...tobat2 dech Dear OB-er, kemarin dikira beli di 1930 udah murah. Eh, malah turun ke 1910. Padahal saudara Agri pada naik. UNSP bikin kuciwa. he2x...Salam nyangkuter (gara2 ngikutin analyst) Analyst: Christine Salim (6/24/2008 2:31:00 PM) Bakrie Sumatra Plantation (UNSP) – Maintain BUY Price: Rp1,980 – Target Price: Rp2,550 Aggressive Expansion Mode · Aggressive expansion. · Sales will jump after ARBV consolidation. · Greenfielddevelopment acceleration. · CPO and rubber prices remains high · PER’08 will decline to 11.7x from current 15.1x after ARBV consolidation ·Reiterate BUY, target price Rp2,550/shr (29% upside) E-Samuel Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. br Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee, do not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this email or any attachments. If received in error, notify the sender immediately and delete this email and any attachments from your system. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as the message and any attachments could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, delayed, incomplete or amended. Standard Chartered PLC and its subsidiaries do not accept liability for damage caused by this email or any attachments and may monitor email traffic. Standard Chartered PLC is incorporated in England with limited liability under company number 966425 and has its registered office at 1 Aldermanbury Square, London, EC2V 7SB. Standard Chartered Bank (SCB) is incorporated in England with limited liability by Royal Charter 1853, under reference ZC18. The Principal Office of SCB is situated in England at 1 Aldermanbury Square, London EC2V 7SB. In the United Kingdom, SCB is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority under FSA register number 114276. If you are receiving this email from SCB outside the UK, please click http://www.standard chartered. com/global/ email_disclaimer .html to refer to the information on other jurisdictions. ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] ALMI JPRS ..diam2
Dear OB-er, Mohon valuasi ALMI JPRS. Diam2 merangkak naik. ALMI bagi deviden Rp 50 ntar 17/9/08 melebihi deviden BUMI...he2x..becanda aja... Salam ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] GJTL...ada ngeguyur ?
Dear Para Senior OB YTH, di GJTL harga awal 450 lalu turun perlahan ke 430. Pada sore hari, harga 430 langsung jatuh ke 400. lalu rebound ke 425. Apakah MU, PG atau AY yang ngeguyur ? atau ada yang ngeshort ? Mohon pencerahan...maklum newbie awam kebetulan lagi ngelihat ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] UNSP...tobat2 dech
Dear OB-er, kemarin dikira beli di 1930 udah murah. Eh, malah turun ke 1910. Padahal saudara Agri pada naik. UNSP bikin kuciwa. he2x...Salam nyangkuter (gara2 ngikutin analyst) Analyst: Christine Salim (6/24/2008 2:31:00 PM) Bakrie Sumatra Plantation (UNSP) – Maintain BUY Price: Rp1,980 – Target Price: Rp2,550 Aggressive Expansion Mode · Aggressive expansion. · Sales will jump after ARBV consolidation. · Greenfield development acceleration. · CPO and rubber prices remains high · PER’08 will decline to 11.7x from current 15.1x after ARBV consolidation ·Reiterate BUY, target price Rp2,550/shr (29% upside) E-Samuel ___ Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT :TINS...kenapa tidak terkoreksi ?
Dear para Senior OB, harga timah turun -2,6 %, tapi harga TINS malah naik ? ada apa ya.Salam ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] BUY CPRO ??
Pak KIM Herman, bisa dibaca di Kontan hari ini tapi dikolom RUMOR hal 4. Salam no opinion - Pesan Asli Dari: Kim Liong Oei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Selasa, 24 Juni, 2008 09:32:43 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] BUY CPRO ?? Pak Herman, is it true? Kalau ada info boleh japri ke saya, karena utk hal ini saya tidak menerima kabar sedikitpun. - Original Message From: Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:57:38 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUY CPRO ?? Pemiliknya akan melepas sebagian sahamnyaplacement untuk bayar hutang . Jadi mungkin masih akan turun lagi. Salam , Herman -Original Message- From: Kim Liong Oei [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: 24/06/08 7:40 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY CPRO ?? Sejak kemarin banyak yang bahas, ada yang pro bull, ada yang pesimis. Mana yang benar Kalau kita lihat pergerakan saham ini dari 700 bisa turun ke 240, dan main biz adalah si bongkok udang. Gambaran saya sbb: 1. Waktu terjadi pembelian aset Dipasena oleh CPRO, maka CPRO mendapat hiu yang masih harus dirawat agar bisa berfungsi opmtimal. Nah selama masa perawatan ini harga akan turun. Simple. 2. Jika sudah sehat (biasanya secara optimal bisa makan waktu 2 - 3 tahun, ini meliputi perbaikan prasarana, pembangunan cold storage + pabrik pakan dan manajemen) , maka hiu siap dilepas utk mencari laba. 3. Pertanyaannya apakah hiu ini semakin sehat atau lebih banyak bolak balik ke meja operasi? Secara jangka pendek (dalam 6 - 12 bulan), jika ada kenaikan produksi 50%, maka bisa dikatakan hiu bertambah sehat. Ini adalah indikasi yang paling sederhana. 4. Saya melihat CPRO sekarang sudah on the right track. Secara pasar di tahun 2009 - 2010, apakah orang masih suka dan mau makan udang? Kalau ya, maka prediksi Pak Victorinus Andrew bisa menjadi kenyataan. Banyak org yang dari makan tempe akan makan kaviar.. Atau Elaine prediksi TP 2000? 5. Terakhir, semua investasi ada resiko. Dan sekali lagi saya belajar dari Bp. SB, kita berusaha secara maksimal dan sisanya serahkan ke YME. Ini penting supaya bisa tidur enak, karena di biz tambak resikonya tinggi sekali juga. Jika ada sakit, bakteri, virus atau perubahan pola makan, maka bukan tidak mungkin kebangkrutan di depan mata. Semoga bermanfaat. - Original Message From: Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:13:20 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY CPRO! Hemmm, as the old saying goes: i will believe only after i put my finger to the hand! Salam, slg On 6/23/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote: LOL... kamu lucu deh, honey. [:p] Jadi hari ini kamu beli CPRO? ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine Sui you.can.call. me.elaine@ ... wrote: *Here comes the shocking news!* Sector: Aquaculture *CPRO – Central Proteinaprima, Tbk (CPRO IJ)* IDR 250/Target Price: IDR 2000something With neither governments nor oil companies looking like they are going to take any action, the current high oil prices are likely to continue for some time. Gas prices at the filling station will stay high too, so the average motorist is going to get no relief from the huge monthly gas bills he or she is facing. As a result of this, there are products on the market claiming that they can tell you how to run your car on shrimp - this sounds too good to be true, so what's the truth? The truth is actually somewhere between the fact and the hype. What these systems do is feed SHRIMP gas into your engine along with the regular gasoline. SHRIMP gas is created by passing an electrical current, say from your car battery, through plain shrimp. Remember your chemistry from High School? The formula for shrimp is all bull***t - two parts exoskeleton, one part is whatever. SHRIMP has the same proportions, but the two components are mixed, rather than chemically combined. The SHRIMP gas increases the efficiency of your engine dramatically, and although some systems claim a 100% reduction in fuel consumption, most people achieve an increase in MPG of about 50% - still pretty impressive! Right now you're probably thinking that if these products are really that good, they must be expensive. And where can you get them? In fact, the components you need are freely available from your local auto parts store or hardware store, and with just a few tools, and some basic auto maintenance tools, you can install an SHRIMP system in your car or truck right now! All you need is a comprehensive guide. There are a several of these guides available on the internet, but if you want video instructions, detailed blueprints, and even some help with finding the components, you should get one of the guides featured here: Shrimp For Fuel. Are you sick of high gas
[obrolan-bandar] LTLS UNSP cumdate hari ini ?
Dear OB, LTLS UNSP cum-date hari ini ya ? Thanks Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM...Buktikan Hijaumu
Pak Bandar Junior, newbie emang beli di 6650. Cuma iklannya khan tunjukkan MERAHMU. Udah masang juga di 6550. Moga2 dapet berkah bln Juli'08. Salam siap nyangkut di GGRM. Thanks pak - Pesan Asli Dari: Bandar Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 23 Juni, 2008 10:24:21 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM...Buktikan Hijaumu GGRM akan bagi dividen Rp.250,- cum 18 Juli Akan ada satu lagi berita yg sangat positif mengenai aksi korporasi GGRM, just watch it closely. Kalau berita ini keluar, insya Allah slogan GGRM akan menjadi BUKTIKAN HIJAUMU 6650 harga bagus buat collect Invest Wisely --- On Mon, 6/23/08, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ yahoo.co. id wrote: From: sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ yahoo.co. id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM...tunjukkan MERAHMU To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 3:05 AM Pak Aria S Tasrul, GGRM mantap rasanya koq turun terus ? Salam Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] TENDER OFFER APEX !!!
Pak qasuaribo, APEX tanpa TO pun sudah pernah di 2500. Begitu melihat turun dalam, newbie nyoba kemarin balik beli di 1850. Moga2 bisa turun lagi di 1750. Salam nyangkuter - Pesan Asli Dari: qasuaribo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Sabtu, 21 Juni, 2008 22:11:08 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] TENDER OFFER APEX !!! Sejujurnya memang saya kena (ketipu) TO nya APEX ini. Resiko di BEI. Tapi ada yang sangat mengganjal pikiran saya. Ketika APEX membuat keterbukaan informasi akan akuisisi + TO. Transaksi Apex menjadi luar biasa besar dan naik hebat sekali. Saya yakin banyak fresh money dari institusi yang biasa parkir diluar bursa ikut masuk. Bayangkan cuma nunggu waktu 2 bulan bisa cuan 20%-25%. Tapi pada harga 2200-2250 begitu banyak yang berebut ngedump saham ini. Sangat mencurigakan. Setelah itu BAPEPAM LK ngeluarin indikasi peraturan baru, yang sangat aneh!. Sungguh suatu permainan 'CANTIK'. Saya cuma bisa ucapkan SELAMAT Anda berhasil dan sukses !!!. . Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Global market crash ? DJIA Kamis malam ?
Para Senior rekan OB, Mohon dikaji kembali lampiran berita global market crash. Mungkin ada udang dibalik Ote2..Siapa tau RBS punya maksud tertentu ...Salam dari newbie yang nyangkut hari ini esok. NB : Kamis malam, DJIA laporan Jobless + Phil. FED survey Dapatkan situs lowongan kerja - Yahoo! Indonesia Search. http://id.search.yahoo.com/search?p=lowongan+kerjacs=bzfr=fp-top RBS Predicts Global Market Crash.doc Description: MS-Word document
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ASII sales up 30% (fresh from oven)
Mbak Diana L., bukannya berita itu udah tgl 2 Juni ? Salam ya Indonesia's May vehicle sales up 29 pct y/y Mon Jun 2, 2008 5:39am EDT JAKARTA, June 2 (Reuters) - Indonesia's vehicle sales are estimated to have risen by 29 percent in May to 49,500 units from a year ago, despite a government decision to hike fuel prices by 30 percent that month, an industry official said on Friday. Jodjana Jody, head of sales at Toyota Astra Motor, told Reuters that Toyota (7203.T: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) sold 17,522 units last month, up 32.9 percent from the same month in 2007. Toyota Astra Motor, owned by PT Astra International Tbk ASII.JK, the largest automotive distributor in the country, is the distributor of Toyota cars in Indonesia. Indonesia's automotive was severely hit the last time the government raised fuel prices in October 2005, but the sector has started recovering from that slowdown. Sales in the first four months of 2008 rose by nearly 60 percent, helped by lower interest rates and despite the country's consumer confidence being dented by building inflation. However, analysts say the central bank's decision last month to hike its benchmark rate by 25 basis points, the first hike since late 2005, could hurt sales in the future. They say high inflation from rising food prices and energy costs could also weigh on the automotive industry. But some analysts and industry experts have said that they still expect this year's vehicle sales to top 500,000 units, compared to 434,449 units in 2007, even after the hike in subsidised fuel prices. Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Cum date bbri
Pak deephouses 123. cum-date BBRI 18/6/08 Rp 195. Mudah-mudahan BBRI bisa jaya lagi, tapi rasa2-nya agak sulit, ada sentimen rate. Thanks - Pesan Asli Dari: deephouses123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Sabtu, 14 Juni, 2008 20:07:59 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Cum date bbri Mau nanya cum date bbri 18 juni atau 20 juni ya? Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] APEX tender offer Agustus
Kang Ocoy Senior OB, APEX tender offer di Agustus harga tetap 2.450. Newbie mohon saran apakah untuk dapat + 13% harus nungguin 2 bulan ?...Salam Dapatkan info tentang selebritis - Yahoo! Indonesia Search. http://id.search.yahoo.com/search?p=selebritiscs=bzfr=fp-top
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] APEX
Pak Irawan, seneng APEX juga toh ?? he2x...sama. newbie collect sebelum cum-date , termasuk Abang-nya. Salam cuan - Pesan Asli Dari: Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 9 Juni, 2008 14:24:36 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] APEX tapi asal mau break high digembosi KZ melulu tuh... knapa ya ? 2008/6/9 Bet Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: apex 1-2 minggu ini bisa lebih rame lagi krn ada tawaran yang menarik dari 2 investor lainnya selain mira ... sprt bisa lebih tinggi dari 2500 - Original Message From: Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 12:04:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] APEX pantes aja volumenya nge-joss..!! mau bikin cup and handle kyknya. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Bandar Junior bandar_junior@ yahoo.com wrote: Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Bls: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] APEX RESMI
Kang Ocoy, Pak Irawan Landlord, APEX resmi dijual ke MIRA kemarin di 2450. cum-date udah lewat 4/6/08. mah jualnya kalo nggak kuat nanjak lagi. kemarin keder di MEDC 5500 ada 10.000 lot + diguyur terus. Moga2 Selasa tak ada scenario yang aneh2... Salam newbie - Pesan Asli Dari: kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 9 Juni, 2008 20:35:39 Topik: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] APEX Pak Sulis, Saya mAh malah Daftar Ujian CFA ni Full dibayarin Gain Singkat dr si APEX Nih, kekekeke. coba waktu itu dikasih beli di cenggo padahal Frederikksen aja lepas ni barang 2340 Taon Lalu. ekekekekek.. .. Tos Dulu Ah sesama PengCollect APEX. tp jujur mah saya ga rela kalo yg ngambilnya MIRA. kasian si APEXnya... Mo Dilepas di berapa nih kira2 pak?. saya sebagian udah diambil gainnya buat daptar ujian, sebagian lagi mo tunggu tendernya beres. gainnya lmayan bisa beli gadget2 baru. minggu depan ada pameran komputer lg. ekekekekek. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sulistyo Winarto sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote: Pak Irawan, seneng APEX juga toh ?? he2x...sama. newbie collect sebelum cum-date , termasuk Abang-nya. Salam cuan Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT :berkah CPO , bisa naik rating Fitch
Indonesia's Ciliandra Perkasa IDR raised to 'BB-'; outlook stable - Fitch | 06 Jun 2008 | 03:36 AM ET BANGALORE (Thomson Financial) - Fitch Ratings said it has raised Indonesia-based palm oil plantation company P.T. Ciliandra Perkasa's issuer default rating (IDR) to 'BB-' with a stable outlook from 'B+', citing the company's improved financial, operating profiles and the ratings agency's expectation that Perkasa will continue to further improve its credit metrics. At the same time, the ratings agency has upgraded Ciliandra's national long-term rating to 'A+(idn)' from 'A(idn)'. The company should maintain its strong operating cash flow generation, supported by the anticipated increase of its crude palm oil (CPO) production and the current high CPO prices, Fitch said. The ratings agency said the company may acquire further land for future development despite having a large unplanted land bank, but Fitch added this can instead be done by its parent company - Singapore-listed First Resources Ltd. - which owns 95.51 percent of Ciliandra. Always...kompor mode Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] AALI cum date..Benny S
To : pak Benny, kura2 dalam perahu..pura2 tak tau. AALI cum date 16/6. Rp 625/shm.. Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: Benny Soerjono [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Sabtu, 7 Juni, 2008 07:41:05 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MINYAK TEMBUS $133, PESTA CPO DAN BATUBARA Ngomong2, ada yang tau kapan cum date AALI pembagian devidennya ya advise please,, Ben abdulrahim abdulrahim wrote: 2008/6/6 Bumi T [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id mailto:t_bumi% 40yahoo.co. id: Banyak pengamat minyak menyatakan minyak bahkan bisa tembus $ 150 di Juni 2008. HAPPY CUAN UTK INVESTOR CPO DAN BATUBARA ! Kira2 kapan bisa pesta saham CPO pak TBUM? Soalnya sejak om TBUM bilang saham CPO bakal menggeser saham Coal dan Nickel (weekend kemaren ngomongnya), saham CPO terjun bebas semua deh. khi khi khi (seemingly, some bandars are watching you) Klo gak nunggu deviden, udah gw buang semua tuh AALI. Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Oil $150 By July 4?
Posted By:Lee Brodie Topics:Economy (U.S.) | Stock Market| Stock Picks Sectors:Oil and Gas Oil prices [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138.5410.75 (+8.41%)]shot up nearly $11 to a new record Friday after Morgan Stanley predicted prices would hit $150 by the Fourth of July. The unprecedented jump is all but certain to drive gas prices well past the $4 mark in the coming weeks. Oil's meteoric surge, which pushed prices more than 8 percent higher in a single day, added to a huge increase Thursday to cap oil's biggest two-day gain in the history of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The burst higher -- which also came on rising Middle East tensions -- also raised the prospect of accelerating inflation by adding to already strained transportation costs. What does this mean for the stock market? For further insights we turn to strategic investor Dennis Gartman. Following is a synopsis of his main points. What happened on Friday? The oil trade has come unhinged, Gartman says. I am completely afraid to trade crude oil. I’ve doubled up on my nat gas stocks as a kind of hedge. What’s gone wrong? I think the floor itself has become de-populated, Gartman replies. Large traders who in the past might have taken the short side of the trade to create liquidity are simply not there. Everyone has pulled their horns in. There’s an illiquid market and Friday the news out of Israel and Iran as well as the Morgan Stanley $150 estimate created the perfect storm. Does this increase the chance of government intervention? You bet, he says. I have to think more government officials are looking at the $11 jump in crude and saying we have to do something. Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] MIRA TBLA, warrant cair
Senior OB, kemarin TBLA MIRA turun. apakah gara2 warrant-nya cair hari ini ? inflasi dong. Salam Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Prediksi BI rate 9 % diakhir 2008
Pak Irawan S, Jos M, Senior OB, mengingat BBM mau naik inflasi juga ikutan. maka diprediksi BI rate harus naik mengimbanginya. Mohon petunjuk komentar disektor mana yang masih berkembang. ...salam dari newbie yang nyangkut rame2 SIPD di 50. NB : special thanks to Boyz Aria S untuk PTBA-nya Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Saham2 di 52 week low
Dear friend, ISAT , TLKM, KLBF, TSPC, BMTR, KOIN, MAPI sudah disekitar 52 week low. Malah BMTR sudah dibawah 52 week low. sedangkan ISAT TLKM barusan naik dikit (malu kale). Kasihan khan investor yang taun lalu beli saham. Salam Dapatkan situs lowongan kerja - Yahoo! Indonesia Search. http://id.search.yahoo.com/search?p=lowongan+kerjacs=bzfr=fp-top
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA ke 12.500 + ENRG ?
Pak Boyz, PTBA OK sedang ENRG juga pak ? Salam ..mo ikutan - Pesan Asli Dari: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 22 Mei, 2008 23:19:02 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA ke 12.500 Duh, belum sempat lihat-lihat chart nih... kayaknya PTBA akan membuat J curve lagi... Bro jsxtrader rekan-rekan lain, any comment? (ngomporin mode on) http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/83076 salam, Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] SIPD bergerak
Pak Mo_cuan, SIPD diantri YU, ZP, DD, HK.. padahal saham ganjal pintu. Jangan2 mau digoreng lagi !. Ikutan goreng yuk ? Thanks - Pesan Asli Dari: Mo_Cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 23 Mei, 2008 11:10:32 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SIPD bergerak ada berita apa yah??? kayaknya sipd bakal ke 100-an lagi nih... +++mo cuan pengen liat sipd nyalip BTEK hahaha+++ --- vividtrader vividtrader@ gmail.com wrote: bakal seru kyknya Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA ke 12.500
Pak Boyz Aria Santosa.Thanks atas tips nya. Kalo tiap hari ngasih hints. Moga2 amal Bapak dapat berkah dari YME. Thanks berat - Pesan Asli Dari: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 22 Mei, 2008 23:19:02 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA ke 12.500 Duh, belum sempat lihat-lihat chart nih... kayaknya PTBA akan membuat J curve lagi... Bro jsxtrader rekan-rekan lain, any comment? (ngomporin mode on) http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/83076 salam, Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Bandar TSPC pelit!
Ini saham khusus buat orang tua atau jantungnya lemah... Nilai betanya dibawah 1. butuh 1 minggu untuk keluar dengan cuan yang tipisss. Mending TINS, ASII, BRPT,MIRA, ENRG.. Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: Nova Putra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 21 Mei, 2008 17:39:20 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bandar TSPC pelit! Walah, sekarang banyak dedemitnya om mending jauhin aja tuh barang. ga kayak tahun-tahun waktu masih buat pabrik baru di cikarang Lagi-an tuh prsh banyak akal bulusnya sama karyawannya. - Original Message From: Rully [EMAIL PROTECTED] org To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:50:41 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bandar TSPC pelit! Ngantri di 520 dari pagi gak dapet-dapet nih... Bandarnya yang pelit atau akunya yang terlalu nawar kemurahan ya...? he he... Salam, Rully Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Iklan : TOP 10 Winner 2008 versi majalah Globe
FYI, cuplikan majalah Globe Asia edisi Perfect storm :energy commodity will continyu to enjoy strong growth in 2008 despite a weaker global economy. TOP 10 WINNER : 1. BUMI - mining 2. PTBA - mining 3. MEDC - Oil 4. ENRG - Oil 5. AALI - Agro 6. LSIP - Agro 7. UNTR - Heavy eq. 8. UNSP - Agro 9. UNVR - consumer 10. KLBF - pharmacy Salam...masang iklan Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR bagi dividen
Pak Irawan, cement industries sensitif pada BBM inflasi. Jadi sama2 dech nunggu turun dulu. kayaknya beberapa hari ini ada kesempatan belanja. Salam dari newbie. NB : BBM untuk industri emang udah naik, cuman industri masih banyak yang ngeteng di SPBU + lain tempat - Pesan Asli Dari: Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 20 Mei, 2008 20:10:37 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR bagi dividen Iya, tekanan jualnya lumayan kuat. Tapi saya yakin harganya engga bakal turun banyak, pak. Paling banter ke 4200. Kalau sampai ke 4000, pasti udah diserbu ama retailer. 2008/5/19 www.titan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.tw: SMGR 29MAY 2008 CUM dIVIDEN Rp. 149,66 Kok melorot ya hari ini...? :( Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Mohon arahan..minyak masih naik terus vs IDX
Mbah Senior OB, Mohon arahan / tips buat newbie. CNBC 20/5/08 : bilang kalo demand minyak lebih besar daripada supplynya 2001: Crude oil SUPPLY EXCEEDED demand by more the 1 million barrels per day. (Supply: 76.7 million bpd / Demand 75.7 million bpd) 2008: Crude oil DEMAND EXCEEDS supply by almost 5 million barrels per day. (Supply: 82.6 / Demand 87.23) Sedangkan estimasi UBS JP Morgan, IDX target 2008 = 2850 - 2900 an.Kalo ada sign Bullish dari OB, ya belanja terus. Salam Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kumpulan Berita Buruk Hari Ini
Pak Boyz Riky W., masih ada lagiBila BBM naik, maka WAJIB BI RATE naik..Koq pada nakutin newbie trader sih ?...Salam Disclaimer - Pesan Asli Dari: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Sabtu, 17 Mei, 2008 16:41:28 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kumpulan Berita Buruk Hari Ini hehehe... Bener tuh, very bad news. Terutama poin no.3. Terbukti kok historically, kalo musim bola -spt piala dunia - nilai transaksi BEI langsung turun. Money flow analysis, uang bandar hengkang dari bursa and pindah ke pertaruhan bola. salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ricky Wakiman ricky.wakiman@ ... wrote: Ada tiga berita buruk hari ini yang mungkin bisa berpengaruh pada BEI: 1. Menurut Menko Boediono, setelah naik 30%, pemerintah akan menerapkan smart card. Harga BBM tanpa smart card (kartu kendali) akan disamakan dengan harga pembelian di pasar dunia atau harga pembelian industri secara bertahap.(Catatan: pada tanggal 15 Mei harga premium di pasar internasional sudah setara Rp 9.450,- atau sekitar 100% lebih tinggi dari harga di sini saat ini.) 2. Pada berita berjudul serem Ekonomi di Tepi Jurang di Kompas hari ini, PBB memperkirakan angka pertumbuhan ekonomi dunia hanya akan capai 1,8% sepanjang tahun 2008 akibat masalah penurunan sektor keuangan dan perumahan di AS yang diperkirakan akan terus berlanjut sampai 2009 sehingga memperburuk krisis kredit di negara-negara industri maju. Hal ini diperburuk dengan anjloknya kurs USD, ketidakseimbangan global, naiknya harga minyak, pangan dan komoditas lainnya. 3. Kontan hari ini memilih headline Kepulauan Riau Setuju Ada Kasino. Disebutkan bahwa, selain Pemprov, sebagian anggota DPR juga sudah setuju. Diperkirakan jumlah turis ke Bintan akan naik 8 kali lipat menjadi sedikitnya 3 juta orang setahunnya. (Komentar: Bisnis ini akan menjadi saingan berat bagi BEI karena sebagian pemain saham gorengan dan short term trader akan memindahkan operasinya ke kasino tersebut. :-)) RW Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] bisnis operator telkom mirip bisnis angkot
Para senior OB, apa hari ini keluar lap keu TLKM ? kalo bagus dibeli, kalo jelek... Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 16 Mei, 2008 11:08:01 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] bisnis operator telkom mirip bisnis angkot bisnis operator telkom mirip bisnis angkot, yg penting diperbanyak terus biar rame dan dapat duit dari izin trayek baru dari angkot. Kalau gini, TLKM gimana bisa ke 13.000 :) Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Pengaruh BBM ke bursa 2005
Pengaruh kenaikan BBM pada bursa thn 2005, klipping dari Kompas. Semoga bermanfaat. No comment Disclaimer ON. Salam Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/ pengaruh BBM ke bursa.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI pindah ke PTBA??
Pak Aria YTH, BUMI double top reversal di 7700, ada kemungkinan balik ke 7100. disclaimer paklha wong saya dapet dari orang... Thanks - Pesan Asli Dari: Aria Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 15 Mei, 2008 12:24:41 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI pindah ke PTBA?? Pak Wencen Yth, Terima kasih untuk petunjuknya. Apakah bisa minta tolong posting gambarnya atau penjelasan teknikalnya seperti bagaimana utk BUMI PTBA. Terima kasih. Salam, Ace -Original Message- From: wencen79 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:05 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI pindah ke PTBA?? Secara teknikal, ptba berpeluang kuat untuk naik. Bumi hati2 dg profit taking, bisa terkoreksi hingga 7100.Biar aman, mending tunggu koreksi dulu hingga paling tidak 7200. TP PTBA 12000 Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga. http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] FYI : Indonesia GDP
Indonesia's GDP Growth Exceeds 6% for Sixth Quarter (Update2) By Aloysius Unditu May 15 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's economy grew more than 6 percent for a sixth quarter as the lowest borrowing costs in three years spurred demand for homes and exports advanced on higher prices of coal and palm oil. Gross domestic product in Southeast Asia's biggest economy expanded 6.28 percent in the three months ended March 31 from a year earlier, compared with 6.25 percent in the fourth quarter, the statistics bureau said today in Jakarta. The median forecast of 17 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News was 6.20 percent. Private consumption, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy, may cool amid plans by the government to raise fuel prices by as much as 30 percent to cut government outlays. Spending may also drop after Bank Indonesia raised borrowing costs for the first time in more than two years to tame the fastest inflation in 19 months. ``Companies in the consumer sector will be hit,'' Destry Damayanti, chief economist at PT Mandiri Sekuritas in Jakarta. ``Higher inflationary pressures have dampened people's purchasing power.'' She expects growth to slow to 5.9 percent this year after a 6.3 percent expansion in 2007. Welfare Minister Aburizal Bakrie said yesterday that fuel prices will probably be increased 30 percent after the government completes a plan to compensate 19.1 million poor families for lost income on May 23. President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, facing elections next year, wants to thwart protests from the poor, who are already paying more for staples such as noodles and cooking oil. Rising prices of coal, palm oil and tin helped boost exports by 15 percent, the fastest pace since the last quarter of 2004. Prices of power-station coal shipped from Newcastle, Australia, the world's biggest export harbor for the fuel, reached an 11- week high in the week ended May 9 at $133.6 a metric ton. Private Spending Private consumption expanded 5.5 percent in the first quarter, almost matching the previous period's 5.62 percent, which was the fastest since the first quarter of 2004. Government spending grew 3.6 percent in the quarter, and investment rose 13.3 percent, the statistics bureau said. Six quarters of above 6 percent growth is ``comfortably the longest period of strength since the Asian crisis and enough we think to be contributing to the sharp pickup in inflation,'' said Robert Prior-Wandesforde, a senior economist at HSBC Holdings Plc in Singapore. ``It's not impossible that inflation will hit 15 percent or so in the next few months.'' Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. expects higher fuel prices to drive year-on-year inflation to 12 percent in June from 8.2 percent in April. Accelerating inflation and the proposed fuel price increase may slow sales of cement and motorcycles this year. Cement, Autos ``We expect there will be a decline in cement sales in the second half of the year as the impact of the fuel price increase'' is felt, said Urip Timuryono, chairman of the Indonesian Cement Producers Association in Jakarta. ``Companies will finish ongoing construction projects but they are unlikely to start new ones.'' Cement, auto and consumer-related companies were among those to benefit most from Bank Indonesia's 4.75 percentage points of rate cuts from May 2006. Indonesia's construction industry expanded 8.3 percent in the quarter from a year earlier. Manufacturing grew 4.3 percent in the period. Car sales increased 47 percent to a three-year high last month. Revenue at HeidelbergCement AG's unit PT Indocement Tunggal Prakarsa rose to a record 7.3 trillion rupiah last year. ``People are more cautious now in buying homes,'' said Hendra Sugandi, a director at PT Lippo Karawaci, Indonesia's biggest publicly traded real estate developer by assets. Indonesia is raising fuel prices to lower a subsidy bill estimated at about 14 percent of total government revenue. Budget Deficit Crude oil prices have risen 30 percent this year, increasing the burden on the government, which has kept local gasoline, diesel and kerosene prices steady for almost three years. Concern the deficit would widen partly explains why Indonesian bonds have handed holders a loss of 8.8 percent this year, the worst performance of 10 Asian local-currency debt markets, according to indexes compiled by HSBC Holdings Plc. The last time investors lost faith in the government's ability to curtail its budget deficit in the face of rising fuel costs, investors dumped Indonesian assets, causing the rupiah to tumble 7 percent to a four-year low in August 2005. The government more than doubled fuel prices a month later that year and Bank Indonesia increased borrowing costs to 12.75 percent to stem inflation. Gross domestic product rose 2.15 percent in the three months ended March 31 from the fourth quarter. Economic growth may slow to 6 percent in 2008 from 6.3 percent last year as private consumption will decline,
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA sudah masuk jarak tembak
Pak Adam R. Senior OB yang demen PTBA, kira2 dalam TP dalam waktu DEKET berapa yah ? Salam dari newbie - Pesan Asli Dari: Adam Rajsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 14 Mei, 2008 15:49:26 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA sudah masuk jarak tembak reload, dor.. dor..dor..., reload.. dor dor..dor... Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] TGL BERAPA BBM NAIK??
SBY bilang kalo BLT dulu jalan baru BBM naik ? yang bener yang mana ? Ada rapat paripurna kabinet soal BBM nih Salam. NB : BBM BI rate, musti naik lah - Pesan Asli Dari: Ivan jaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rabu, 14 Mei, 2008 19:28:12 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TGL BERAPA BBM NAIK?? rumornya BBM naik besok sore beritanya di : http://economy. okezone.com/ index.php/ ReadStory/ 2008/05/14/ 20/109293/ pemerintah- umumkan-kenaikan -bbm-besok- sore On 5/14/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: ada yg tahu tgl berapa BBM naik? 17? 24? 31? dalam bulan mei ini .. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Hati2 rumor BCIC
Dear friend OB, Mohon hati-hati rumor BCIC katanya mau dibeli investor Tim Teng, Eropa USA. saham bakal ke Rp. 200. rumor dah dibantah oleh PD. PER-nya sekarang udah 40 an. Salam Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI ASII...pak Hendrik
Pak Hendrik, Apa bener HARI INI BUMI masih bisa naik ? Kalo ASII mungkin iya. Mohon pencerahan TA nya donk... Salam - Pesan Asli Dari: hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 15 Mei, 2008 07:41:55 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Stock Picking 15/5/2008 BUMI TP 8100 INCO TP 7100 DEWA TP 500 (masih idup juga ni saham ^.^ ) ASII TP 22.500 (Kenaikan harga BBM masyarakat udah antisipasi sehingga ga akan buat penurunan penjualan yang signifikan, mungkin mobil turun penjualannya tapi Motor Honda naik ^^) Chart : dolgado.blogspot. com Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] TP PTBA.. Pak Wencen
Pak Wencen, TP PTBA di E-Samuel TRIM adalah 14.000an tapi tidak ada kenaikan yang straight line (terlampir cuplikan). Salam Disclaimer - Pesan Asli Dari: wencen79 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 15 Mei, 2008 11:04:50 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI pindah ke PTBA?? Secara teknikal, ptba berpeluang kuat untuk naik. Bumi hati2 dg profit taking, bisa terkoreksi hingga 7100.Biar aman, mending tunggu koreksi dulu hingga paling tidak 7200. TP PTBA 12000 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada yang bisa kasih info? BUMI turun PTBA naik ... Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/ PTBA.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
[obrolan-bandar] PER Gozco vs CPO
Para senior OB, kalo di KONTAN tgl. 13/5/-8 hal 4, dibilang PER Gozco sekitar 7. sedang PER versi Kontan untuk CPO : AALI 11,66 ; LSIP 12,96 ; SGRO 9,46 ; UNSP 30,91 ; TBLA 5,04 Versi Mbah, lihat di investdata aja. Newbie sih ngikut OB aja...salam Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] redemption reksa-dana saham
Cuma sharing aja : net redemption reksa-dana saham pada awal bln Mei, Rp. 188 M. Investor siap2 beli BBM kaleSalam Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Minyak, beda kepentingan maka beda hasil Analystnya
Pak Vincent, Andi Senior OB... Kalau beda kepentingan maka bisa2 hasil analystnya juga beda. Lihat Analyst Lehman vs Morgan. (yang satu bilang $80 satunya ke $200) Thanks The Case For $80 A Barrel Oil 05.09.08, 2:37 PM ET Oil prices may hang above $100 a barrel for the rest of this year but will fall as low as $80 next year as world demand slackens and Saudi Arabia tries to buy influence with the incoming president by pumping more crude oil, an influential Lehman Brothers analyst said in a report issued today. Saudi engineers have been working on several big projects that could boost the nation's output by 1.3 million barrels a day--more than the expected increase in global demand next year--but the secretive nation is likely to keep its political tool, excess production capacity, close to its chest until it has a new U.S. president to win over, Edward Morse writes. Saudi production is currently a little less than 10 million barrels a day. The Lehman report contrasts sharply with a Goldman Sachs (nyse: GS - news - people ) prediction earlier this week that crude prices could soar as high as $200 a barrel as non-OPEC producers struggle to maintain output, let alone increase it. Crude oil hit a record $126 on the NYMEX Friday, almost double the price of a year ago. Only time will tell who's right, but the analysts at Lehman make a strong case for falling prices as the markets absorb bearish signs such as the Chinese stockpiling oil in advance of the Olympics, and the estimated 28 million barrels Iran is storing in tankers because it can't find a market for the heavy, difficult-to-refine crude. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Wah... TIN new records
Pak Aria S., Angelo Andi...TIN new record lagi tapi ingat TINS bisa anjlok...Salam dari yang nungguin di 30.000 Oil at record $126; tin at new record too Fri May 9, 2008 5:04pm EDT NEW YORK (Reuters) - Investment money continued to pour in to energy markets on Friday, taking crude oil to a fifth straight record-high session, while soybean prices surged after a sharp cut in U.S. harvest projections. In other agricultural markets, rice prices were mixed on lingering supply woes in Asia and projections for a bumper crop next year GRA/ and soft food commodities like coffee, cocoa and sugar rose on the back of a weak dollar. In precious metals, platinum hit a near two-month high after the launch of two exchange-traded notes that will aid investment in the metal used largely in exhaust emission systems of cars and in jewelry-making. Gold prices rose modestly after their recent divergence from the oil rally. Copper fell after a buildup in inventories at exchanged-monitored warehouses in Asia although tin hit record highs to buck the weaker trend in most industrial metals. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Greenspan, Mining, commodity ...BULL !!
Dear OB-ers, barukali ini Pak tua Greenspan bicara nggak miring. Mining komoditi masih jadi raja. Salam cuan dari newbie yang mau ngurangi porto... Greenspan says worst of credit crisis over: sources Thu May 8, 2008 3:48pm EDT NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Thursday that the worst of the credit crisis is over, according to sources who attended a speech he delivered in New York. Greenspan also said house prices still had a long way to fall and that it was unlikely they would stabilize by year-end, according to meeting attendees who provided Reuters details of the speech at the Alternative Public Strategies Conference. Conference organizers said Greenspan had requested that members of the media intending to cover his speech could only do so in their personal capacity and would not be allowed to report on whatever he said. As chairman of the Fed, Greenspan oversaw the reduction of interest rates to as low as 1 percent, which some critics charge provided fuel for the real estate bubble. Greenspan has vehemently rejected assertions that he is the cause of the problem. US STOCKS-Mining, oil and tech sectors lift Wall St Thu May 8, 2008 4:43pm ED By Ellis Mnyandu NEW YORK, May 8 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks rose on Thursday as a surge in global commodity prices propelled mining and energy shares higher, while technology shares gained after a top strategist said they were a good value. Oil prices rose to a third straight closing record high and metal prices advanced as the U.S. dollar fell, driving up the shares of Chevron Corp (CVX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Alcoa Inc (AA.N: Quote, Profile, Research). These two stocks ranked as the biggest positive influences on the Dow. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] TINS memble.....
Pak Angelo, Andi, Vic Ricky..koq nggak posting2 soal TINS ? Newbie kemarin2 udah siap2 ambil di 3. padahal saat yang tepat : minyak dollar turun harga Tin juga pas turun. Sekarang harga dah naik Inventory dah -100. Salam hangat Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Saham VS Minyak...terulang
Oil Rally May Stall Rebound By US Economy, Stocks 07 May 2008 | 02:20 PM ET The continued surge in oil prices is starting to cut into economic growth--and with it, the slowly recovering stock market. So far, the economy and stocks have taken the unprecedented rise in energy costs in stride. But that's beginning to change. Higher oil costs already are curbing some discretionary spending by consumers, which could slow the economic recovery. The stock market, in turn, could see its recent rally stall on worries about oil's impact on inflation and economic growth. That's largely what happened in the market on Wednesday. And if stocks fall back, investors are likely to put more money in oil and other commodities, pushing prices up even more. Main Street May Rain on Wall Street Recovery Parade Wall Street seems to have concluded that the worst of the credit crisis is over and investors are looking to better economic times ahead, but Main Street is sending the opposite signal. While banks have raised cash by the billions to shore up balance sheets that were battered by bad bets on mortgages and other loans, the front-line staff in charge of doling out that money to consumers and companies remain downbeat, suggesting that the economy may stay in the doldrums for some time. The U.S. Federal Reserve's quarterly survey of senior loan officers, released this week, showed widespread tightening of credit. The percentage of banks reporting tougher lending standards was close to, or above, historical highs for nearly all loan categories in the survey. Banks clamped down on loans to companies large and small, to prime and subprime mortgage holders, and on credit cards, home equity lines and other consumer credit. Most banks blamed a less favorable economic outlook for the tightening terms rather than their own bruised balance sheets. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/