Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available
Hi, good questions. At the moment, the key features are not to have more features at all than what illumos provides, and a text-installer that places everything at its place as we usually do. We at Sonicle liked the idea of having our own distribution of illumos, allowing us to streamline kernel updates when we need it, and make XStreamOS the base for our products that we used to deliver on Solaris 8/9/10 until Sun was acquired. This is a starting point. Now that we have this, and share this with the community, we can start thinking about key features to deliver. Any suggestion will be appreciated ;) Gabriele. -- Da: Jerry Kemp A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Data: 20 settembre 2012 2.44.13 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available Hello Gabriele, Thank you for your efforts. I have no doubts that it is/will be a lot of work to maintain your new distro. I have poked around on sourceforge.net and also on your link at www.sonicle.com. Aside from the custom text installer, can you share what specifically differentiates your distro from OpenIndiana, or the roughly 2 dozen other *Solaris based distros? Or, are you just establishing your place, and planning for unique features for the future? I hope my questions do not come across negatively, as they are not intended to be. Hopefully, I am just missing XStreamOS's key features. Again, thank you for your efforts, Jerry On 09/19/12 10:17 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, anyone interested may donwload the iso of our XStreamOS distro here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xstreamos/ We would like to know if you feel it nice as a development distro for the illumos kernel, or any other use. Gabriele. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available
We have it working on VMWare 4 and 5, community and licensed versions. We have it working on VirtualBox, both on Windows and Solaris hosts. We have it working on KVM for illumos, tested on an experimental version of XStreamOS on bare metal with KVM built on it. I have no OracleVM to test it. If you can do it, we will love to know the results. Thanks, Gabriele. -- Da: Stephan Budach A: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Data: 20 settembre 2012 11.11.46 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available Am 20.09.12 10:51, schrieb Gabriele Bulfon: Hi, good questions. At the moment, the key features are not to have more features at all than what illumos provides, and a text-installer that places everything at its place as we usually do. We at Sonicle liked the idea of having our own distribution of illumos, allowing us to streamline kernel updates when we need it, and make XStreamOS the base for our products that we used to deliver on Solaris 8/9/10 until Sun was acquired. This is a starting point. Now that we have this, and share this with the community, we can start thinking about key features to deliver. Any suggestion will be appreciated ;) Gabriele. Hi Gabriele, I like the idea of a baseline OS, without and extra-stuff as long as the basic features are available and since they are, I will surely give it a spin. Do you happen to know, if it will run on OracleVM? I've had no success with OI on that one and have been waiting for an illumos-driven distro would be available that will run on OVM. Either Solaris 11/11/11 and OI had some issues with - I believe it was some apic stuff. Cheers, budy ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available
On 2012-09-20 08:40, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, this is a bare distribution featuring just the illumos kernel and dependency packages, just the minimum requirements + gcc. Is this your take at becoming the reference distro for development and lightweight-footprint testing of development for illumos-gate? ;) I am not sure if the distro for such dev/test purposes (or a server) needs to be cluttered with GUI installer and desktop as others suggest; at most - as optional packages. If so, does it also support boot environments and perhaps networked installation (over PXE or the likes)? Some sort of automated installer to initialize racks of servers or new test VMs with a new kernel build - now that would be a useful feature for the purpose. My 2c, //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available
Hi, sure boot environments are there, inside illumos kernel. About networked installtion, probably this is a different thing. If I well remember, there was some kind of software you may add to Solaris 10 to make it a network installation server, do you think it's still available and usable with illumos? -- Da: Jim Klimov A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Data: 20 settembre 2012 13.50.50 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available On 2012-09-20 08:40, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, this is a bare distribution featuring just the illumos kernel and dependency packages, just the minimum requirements + gcc. Is this your take at becoming the reference distro for development and lightweight-footprint testing of development for illumos-gate? ;) I am not sure if the distro for such dev/test purposes (or a server) needs to be cluttered with GUI installer and desktop as others suggest; at most - as optional packages. If so, does it also support boot environments and perhaps networked installation (over PXE or the likes)? Some sort of automated installer to initialize racks of servers or new test VMs with a new kernel build - now that would be a useful feature for the purpose. My 2c, //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available
On 2012-09-20 17:11, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, sure boot environments are there, inside illumos kernel. About networked installtion, probably this is a different thing. If I well remember, there was some kind of software you may add to Solaris 10 to make it a network installation server, do you think it's still available and usable with illumos? Well, it was a number of different softwares (and the source must still be available in SXCE branch, if that is published anywhere). Basically, a Solaris install server was a mix of BOOTP/DHCP/TFTP server which took care of the new machine getting an IP address and pointers to the installation server and the bootloader image. In case of SPARC and X86 this was done differently, the latter relying on PXE and DHCP, and SPARC doing BOOTP. I think both used TFTP to ultimately get the bootloader or a small installer miniroot. The install server was essentially a TFTP server with the installer miniroot image and an NFS server with a copy of the DVDs. It could also optionally have a JumpStart directory with profiles of different clients to automate setup of things, like package profiles and disk layouts, but this almost did not use ZFS, allowing just some trivial things at best. The two servers were usually set up on one box, but could be separated (i.e. one central installation server and many boot servers, one available in each subnet of the organization). There was also a project called UberJS which implemented similar logic (installer, jumpstart profiles, packages) on a standalone DVD that you could customize and burn. If LAN connectivity was available, the DVD could update host profiles after boot; otherwise it was sufficient to install different things on different hosts from same physical media. I guess nowadays an install server might serve an installer miniroot preconfigured (or fetching a config-update file over net) to use the install server as an IPS repo for packages. I haven't seen this with illumos, so can't say whether this still exists in the live code repo; you can look at AI images for example. HTH, //Jim Klimov ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XStreamOS distro available
Am 20.09.12 11:10, schrieb Gabriele Bulfon: We have it working on VMWare 4 and 5, community and licensed versions. We have it working on VirtualBox, both on Windows and Solaris hosts. We have it working on KVM for illumos, tested on an experimental version of XStreamOS on bare metal with KVM built on it. I have no OracleVM to test it. If you can do it, we will love to know the results. Thanks, Gabriele. Unfortuanetly, XStreamOS has also issues on OracleVM. After starting up and (presumeably loading the kernel) it just sits there and burns cpu cycles. That is the boot message appears and then it's stuck. Cheers, budy ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
