Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-13 Thread Geoff Simmons
 From: Geoff Simmons ge...@uplex.de 
 
 A colleague attempted to boot oi_151a from CD on an HP EliteBook 8560w 
 laptop: 
 
 http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-4307559-5071171.html
  
 
 ... the variant with Intel i7-2670QM. He got an immediate kernel panic

I've now booted (from an oi151a CD) with the kernel debugger switched on
and was able to get a stack trace  -- the crash apparently happens in a
call to wrmsr() within speedstep_pstate_transition(), caused by an event
related to power management (cpupm).

Since I have no way of saving the stack trace, I had to take a picture
of it. In the hopes that attaching photos is not a netiquette violation
on this list, I'll try to send it along with this message (it's a B/W
PNG with about 23KB, so it shouldn't eat too much bandwidth -- my
apologies if this was a no-no).

As it happens, it appears to be exactly the same stack trace that I see
when trying to boot Solaris 11 on the same machine (using the kernel
debugger).

So it would appear that the problem has something to do with power
management, and might be related to some known bugs concerning cpupm:

https://www.illumos.org/issues/423
https://www.illumos.org/issues/1333

But the solutions/workarounds involve editing /etc/power.conf. I'm
trying to get OI to boot up in the first place, and I couldn't edit a
file on CD anyway. What I want to do is install OI, so I'll need to be
able to boot an installer before I can get to fixing up the installed
configuration.

Any ideas? Does this warrant filing a new issue at illumos.org?


Thanks,
Geoff
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-13 Thread Bryan N Iotti
Maybe you could try disabling ACPI in BIOS if possible, or otherwise use 
the acpi-user-options=0x2 at boot.


Read here for more info on disabling ACPI on boot:

https://blogs.oracle.com/danasblog/entry/configuring_solaris_acpi_at_boot

BTW and OT, I hadn't even thought that attaching an image to message 
here might have been bad etiquette/netiquette, so I apologize for that.


Bryan


On 02/13/12 06:39 PM, Geoff Simmons wrote:

From: Geoff Simmonsge...@uplex.de

A colleague attempted to boot oi_151a from CD on an HP EliteBook 8560w
laptop:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-4307559-5071171.html

... the variant with Intel i7-2670QM. He got an immediate kernel panic

I've now booted (from an oi151a CD) with the kernel debugger switched on
and was able to get a stack trace  -- the crash apparently happens in a
call to wrmsr() within speedstep_pstate_transition(), caused by an event
related to power management (cpupm).

Since I have no way of saving the stack trace, I had to take a picture
of it. In the hopes that attaching photos is not a netiquette violation
on this list, I'll try to send it along with this message (it's a B/W
PNG with about 23KB, so it shouldn't eat too much bandwidth -- my
apologies if this was a no-no).

As it happens, it appears to be exactly the same stack trace that I see
when trying to boot Solaris 11 on the same machine (using the kernel
debugger).

So it would appear that the problem has something to do with power
management, and might be related to some known bugs concerning cpupm:

https://www.illumos.org/issues/423
https://www.illumos.org/issues/1333

But the solutions/workarounds involve editing /etc/power.conf. I'm
trying to get OI to boot up in the first place, and I couldn't edit a
file on CD anyway. What I want to do is install OI, so I'll need to be
able to boot an installer before I can get to fixing up the installed
configuration.

Any ideas? Does this warrant filing a new issue at illumos.org?


Thanks,
Geoff


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-13 Thread Jason Matthews
i would start even more conservatively and disable speed step in the bios first 
and then more on to the other suggestions.  i am not a fan of speedstep in 
general. 

j. 


Sent from Jasons' hand held

On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Bryan N Iotti ironsides.med...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe you could try disabling ACPI in BIOS if possible, or otherwise use the 
 acpi-user-options=0x2 at boot.
 
 Read here for more info on disabling ACPI on boot:
 
 https://blogs.oracle.com/danasblog/entry/configuring_solaris_acpi_at_boot
 
 BTW and OT, I hadn't even thought that attaching an image to message here 
 might have been bad etiquette/netiquette, so I apologize for that.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 On 02/13/12 06:39 PM, Geoff Simmons wrote:
 From: Geoff Simmonsge...@uplex.de
 A colleague attempted to boot oi_151a from CD on an HP EliteBook 8560w
 laptop:
 
 http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-4307559-5071171.html
 
 ... the variant with Intel i7-2670QM. He got an immediate kernel panic
 I've now booted (from an oi151a CD) with the kernel debugger switched on
 and was able to get a stack trace  -- the crash apparently happens in a
 call to wrmsr() within speedstep_pstate_transition(), caused by an event
 related to power management (cpupm).
 
 Since I have no way of saving the stack trace, I had to take a picture
 of it. In the hopes that attaching photos is not a netiquette violation
 on this list, I'll try to send it along with this message (it's a B/W
 PNG with about 23KB, so it shouldn't eat too much bandwidth -- my
 apologies if this was a no-no).
 
 As it happens, it appears to be exactly the same stack trace that I see
 when trying to boot Solaris 11 on the same machine (using the kernel
 debugger).
 
 So it would appear that the problem has something to do with power
 management, and might be related to some known bugs concerning cpupm:
 
 https://www.illumos.org/issues/423
 https://www.illumos.org/issues/1333
 
 But the solutions/workarounds involve editing /etc/power.conf. I'm
 trying to get OI to boot up in the first place, and I couldn't edit a
 file on CD anyway. What I want to do is install OI, so I'll need to be
 able to boot an installer before I can get to fixing up the installed
 configuration.
 
 Any ideas? Does this warrant filing a new issue at illumos.org?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Geoff
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-13 Thread Geoff Simmons
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On 02/13/12 06:51 PM, Jason Matthews wrote:
 i would start even more conservatively and disable speed step in the
 bios first and then more on to the other suggestions. i am not a fan of
 speedstep in general.

 On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Bryan N Iotti ironsides.med...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Maybe you could try disabling ACPI in BIOS if possible, or otherwise use the 
 acpi-user-options=0x2 at boot.

 Read here for more info on disabling ACPI on boot:

 https://blogs.oracle.com/danasblog/entry/configuring_solaris_acpi_at_boot

The beautifully user-friendly BIOS GUI unfortunately has nothing to say
about anything as geeky as ACPI or speedstep. I have the option of
switching off Power Control, but that does not prevent the crash.

I'll investigate the acpi-user-options.


Thanks,
Geoff
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-13 Thread Geoff Simmons
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On 02/13/12 06:44 PM, Bryan N Iotti wrote:
 Maybe you could try disabling ACPI in BIOS if possible, or otherwise use
 the acpi-user-options=0x2 at boot.
 
 Read here for more info on disabling ACPI on boot:
 
 https://blogs.oracle.com/danasblog/entry/configuring_solaris_acpi_at_boot

*Thank you* Bryan, acpi-user-options=0x2 got me past the crash and into
the installer.

As the blog entry says, the value 0x2 disables ACPI, and there are other
choices that allow a kind of partial use of ACPI. I'm going ahead with
the installation now, and will investigate the other choices afterward
(and will share the results with the list).

So, given these facts -- crash with the stack trace attached to my
previous mail, workaround by disabling ACPI -- I'm inclined to think
that this warrants a new bug report for Illumos, since I haven't found
anything similar at illumos.org. (Unless someone can point me to a known
issue.)


Thanks again,
Geoff
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-13 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Geoff,

Geoff Simmons píše v po 13. 02. 2012 v 19:39 +0100:
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 On 02/13/12 06:44 PM, Bryan N Iotti wrote:
  Maybe you could try disabling ACPI in BIOS if possible, or otherwise use
  the acpi-user-options=0x2 at boot.
  
  Read here for more info on disabling ACPI on boot:
  
  https://blogs.oracle.com/danasblog/entry/configuring_solaris_acpi_at_boot
 
 *Thank you* Bryan, acpi-user-options=0x2 got me past the crash and into
 the installer.
 
 As the blog entry says, the value 0x2 disables ACPI, and there are other
 choices that allow a kind of partial use of ACPI. I'm going ahead with
 the installation now, and will investigate the other choices afterward
 (and will share the results with the list).
 
 So, given these facts -- crash with the stack trace attached to my
 previous mail, workaround by disabling ACPI -- I'm inclined to think
 that this warrants a new bug report for Illumos, since I haven't found
 anything similar at illumos.org. (Unless someone can point me to a known
 issue.)
 

the latest development bits (not integrated in OpenIndiana) contains
updated ACPI support. It would be good to test it after successful
installation.

 
 Thanks again,
 Geoff

Best regards,

Milan


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-09 Thread Matt Connolly
I've experienced the interrupt storm (at that's what I think it is - ever 
increasing kernel cpu usage and slowing down machine) on a new sandy bridge 
Xeon E3.

As far as I'm aware there is a fix for this in the prestable package repo. I 
just updated my publisher to that on my Xeon machine about 2 days ago, and it's 
looking good so far.

Might be worth giving that a try.

-Matt


On 08/02/2012, at 5:00 AM, Lou Picciano wrote:

 Geoff, 
 
 On the face of it, this looks remarkably like the power management and 
 interrupt issues many (including Yours Truly!) are seeing on SandyBridge CPUs 
 (our is an i7-2600K). These problems often manifest as an 'Interrupt Storm'. 
 Check the bug lists for reports - and some suggested workarounds. 
 
 Trying to work through what I think is the next iteration of this problem; 
 that I can reliably crash our build machine with the -j(n) option to gcc. 
 
 More to follow... 
 
 Lou Picciano 
 
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 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org 
 Cc: Nils Goroll nils.gor...@uplex.de 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 7:55:22 AM 
 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP 
 EliteBook 8560w) 
 
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 Hello all, 
 
 A colleague attempted to boot oi_151a from CD on an HP EliteBook 8560w 
 laptop: 
 
 http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-4307559-5071171.html
  
 
 ... the variant with Intel i7-2670QM. He got an immediate kernel panic, 
 and thinks that he saw a message about the CPU before the screen went 
 blank; which leads us to believe that 2670QM may be too new for oi_151a. 
 
 Has anyone else tried booting OpenIndiana with this CPU, or confirm 
 whether or not it can be used? Or are we looking at the wrong 
 explanation for the kernel panic? 
 
 He also tried some other variations of Solaris: 
 
 - - OpenSolaris snv_134 booted from an SSD also led to immediate kernel 
 panic. 
 
 - - Solaris 11 11/11 also got a kernel panic. 
 
 - - Oddly, OpenSolaris snv_111 could be booted, after issuing warnings 
 about a parser error in the cpudrv or cpupm module. But neither ethernet 
 nor wireless were recognized, and the old nvidia driver didn't work 
 (that could be updated). 
 
 
 Thanks, 
 Geoff 
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-07 Thread Geoff Simmons
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Hello all,

A colleague attempted to boot oi_151a from CD on an HP EliteBook 8560w
laptop:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-4307559-5071171.html

... the variant with Intel i7-2670QM. He got an immediate kernel panic,
and thinks that he saw a message about the CPU before the screen went
blank; which leads us to believe that 2670QM may be too new for oi_151a.

Has anyone else tried booting OpenIndiana with this CPU, or confirm
whether or not it can be used? Or are we looking at the wrong
explanation for the kernel panic?

He also tried some other variations of Solaris:

- - OpenSolaris snv_134 booted from an SSD also led to immediate kernel
panic.

- - Solaris 11 11/11 also got a kernel panic.

- - Oddly, OpenSolaris snv_111 could be booted, after issuing warnings
about a parser error in the cpudrv or cpupm module. But neither ethernet
nor wireless were recognized, and the old nvidia driver didn't work
(that could be updated).


Thanks,
Geoff
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Kernel panic with Intel i7-2670QM CPU (HP EliteBook 8560w)

2012-02-07 Thread Geoff Simmons
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On 02/ 7/12 05:15 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote:
 I have the same issue/problem with my MacBook Pro 17 i7 and also with a 2010
 Mac Mini server.
 
 Solaris runs fine though from my 2007 Mac Mini.
 
 Jerry
 
 
 On 02/ 7/12 07:37 AM, Bryan N Iotti wrote:
 I had a MacBook Pro 17 i7 that would not boot OI, either through rEFIt or 
 MBR emulation.

I doubt that i7 chips in general are the problem, since I find various
reports on Google of OI/Solaris/Illumos running on some kind of i7
processor.

But there are many different kinds. This is the one on the machine that
got us the kernel panic:

http://ark.intel.com/products/53469/Intel-Core-i7-2670QM-Processor-%286M-Cache-2_20-GHz%29

Very new (launched in Q4 2011), and we're guessing that there's
something there that OI and/or Illumos are not ready for, but I don't
know how to investigate it further.


Best,
Geoff
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