Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Hahaha the mutual masturbation On Friday, 23 October 2015, David Burstin wrote: > One hooker for the week That's a bit much to ask - the event only goes > for 4 days. > > Plus - with all the mutual masturbation that goes on at these events, is a > hooker even required??? > > > > > > On 23 October 2015 at 14:46, Stephen Price > wrote: > >> You're right. I crossed the line with the t-shirts. ;) >> >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:43 Tom Rutter > > wrote: >> >>> Now you're just getting silly >>> >>> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price >> > wrote: >>> Sure, and while they are at it they should give all delegates a Surface Book, 5 free t-shirts, and a hooker for the week. On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:28 Tom Rutter wrote: > If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn > sub given to me > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude wrote: > >> For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months >> >> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: >> >>> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >>> >>> I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked >>> for a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like >>> this (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this >>> event is, I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with >>> Richard Branson. The cost will surely skew the demographics of the >>> audience >>> for such events -- *GK* >>> >> >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
One hooker for the week That's a bit much to ask - the event only goes for 4 days. Plus - with all the mutual masturbation that goes on at these events, is a hooker even required??? On 23 October 2015 at 14:46, Stephen Price wrote: > You're right. I crossed the line with the t-shirts. ;) > > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:43 Tom Rutter wrote: > >> Now you're just getting silly >> >> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price >> wrote: >> >>> Sure, and while they are at it they should give all delegates a Surface >>> Book, 5 free t-shirts, and a hooker for the week. >>> >>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:28 Tom Rutter wrote: >>> If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn sub given to me On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude wrote: > For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: > >> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >>> >> >> I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked >> for a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like >> this (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this >> event is, I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with >> Richard Branson. The cost will surely skew the demographics of the >> audience >> for such events -- *GK* >> >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Mixed up the quantities On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Stephen Price wrote: > You're right. I crossed the line with the t-shirts. ;) > > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:43 Tom Rutter wrote: > >> Now you're just getting silly >> >> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price >> wrote: >> >>> Sure, and while they are at it they should give all delegates a Surface >>> Book, 5 free t-shirts, and a hooker for the week. >>> >>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:28 Tom Rutter wrote: >>> If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn sub given to me On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude wrote: > For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: > >> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >>> >> >> I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked >> for a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like >> this (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this >> event is, I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with >> Richard Branson. The cost will surely skew the demographics of the >> audience >> for such events -- *GK* >> > -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
You're right. I crossed the line with the t-shirts. ;) On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:43 Tom Rutter wrote: > Now you're just getting silly > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price > wrote: > >> Sure, and while they are at it they should give all delegates a Surface >> Book, 5 free t-shirts, and a hooker for the week. >> >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:28 Tom Rutter wrote: >> >>> If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn sub >>> given to me >>> >>> On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude wrote: >>> For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: > Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >> > > I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked > for a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like > this (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this > event is, I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with > Richard Branson. The cost will surely skew the demographics of the > audience > for such events -- *GK* >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Now you're just getting silly On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price wrote: > Sure, and while they are at it they should give all delegates a Surface > Book, 5 free t-shirts, and a hooker for the week. > > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:28 Tom Rutter > wrote: > >> If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn sub >> given to me >> >> On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude > > wrote: >> >>> For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months >>> >>> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: >>> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break > I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked for a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like this (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this event is, I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with Richard Branson. The cost will surely skew the demographics of the audience for such events -- *GK* >>>
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Sure, and while they are at it they should give all delegates a Surface Book, 5 free t-shirts, and a hooker for the week. On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 11:28 Tom Rutter wrote: > If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn sub > given to me > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude wrote: > >> For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months >> >> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: >> >>> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >>> >>> I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked for >>> a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like this >>> (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this event is, >>> I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with Richard Branson. >>> The cost will surely skew the demographics of the audience for such events >>> -- *GK* >>> >>
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
If Im paying 2000 for the event at the very least I'd expect an msdn sub given to me On Friday, 23 October 2015, DotNet Dude wrote: > For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh > wrote: > >> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >>> >> >> I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked for a >> big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like this (and >> loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this event is, I'm >> more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with Richard Branson. The >> cost will surely skew the demographics of the audience for such events -- >> *GK* >> >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Google IO is $900-ish, and sold via lottery. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Price wrote: > Seems like the norm. > The Apple event WWDC costs 1599 USD and includes access to five days of > sessions, hands-on labs, and special events. I dare say most people who go, > have a company sending them so it comes out of a training budget. > > Its a double (triple?) sting for a sole developer who works for > themselves... Event ticket, flight, accommodation AND a week off work. > But... it's tax deductible, fun, educational, social, and you get a whole > week away from your normal distractions to focus on all things dev. > I could just stay home and watch training videos for a week, but if I > stayed home, would I? Definitely not. > > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 10:36 DotNet Dude wrote: > >> I find white collars tighter than blue collars by a long shot. Probably >> also has something to do with the fact that dev tools can become >> obsolete pretty quickly. >> >> Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >> >> >> On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price >> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, Developers (like many people) are tight arses / poor bastards. I >>> almost didn't go because of the ticket price, but got a Bizspark discount. >>> Microsoft need a freelancer/sole dev ticket price for the non corporate >>> people who are paying for it themselves. >>> >>> It also extends into tools. How many devs I've met who are too tight to >>> fork out a couple of hundred for their own Resharper license etc. It's the >>> tools of your trade for fucks sake! If you were a carpenter, you'd have >>> your own tools. People spend thousands on hardware and then go all tight >>> arsed on software and demand it to be Free (with a capital F)... /facepalm >>> >>> So you order yourself a new Surface? I'm hoping I get mine before I head >>> off to Ignite. Ordered Surface Book, best specs I could get. Shiny! >>> >>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 07:21 David Connors wrote: >>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 16:10 Stephen Price wrote: > Anyone on the list going to Ignite and want to do a drinks and/or > Indian meetup? > Looks like it is just you and me again for the umpteenth year. -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363 >>> -- w: http://jcooney.net t: @josephcooney
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
For 2k I could go live in Vietnam for several months On Friday, 23 October 2015, Greg Keogh wrote: > Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break >> > > I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked for a > big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like this (and > loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this event is, I'm > more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with Richard Branson. The > cost will surely skew the demographics of the audience for such events -- > *GK* >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
> > Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break > I'm glad someone else feels that way. Back in the late 80s I worked for a big company and was sent on week long junkets to conferences like this (and loved it!). But now I work for myself, as attractive as this event is, I'm more likely to buy a ticket for a trip into space with Richard Branson. The cost will surely skew the demographics of the audience for such events -- *GK*
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Seems like the norm. The Apple event WWDC costs 1599 USD and includes access to five days of sessions, hands-on labs, and special events. I dare say most people who go, have a company sending them so it comes out of a training budget. Its a double (triple?) sting for a sole developer who works for themselves... Event ticket, flight, accommodation AND a week off work. But... it's tax deductible, fun, educational, social, and you get a whole week away from your normal distractions to focus on all things dev. I could just stay home and watch training videos for a week, but if I stayed home, would I? Definitely not. On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 10:36 DotNet Dude wrote: > I find white collars tighter than blue collars by a long shot. Probably > also has something to do with the fact that dev tools can become > obsolete pretty quickly. > > Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break > > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price > wrote: > >> Yeah, Developers (like many people) are tight arses / poor bastards. I >> almost didn't go because of the ticket price, but got a Bizspark discount. >> Microsoft need a freelancer/sole dev ticket price for the non corporate >> people who are paying for it themselves. >> >> It also extends into tools. How many devs I've met who are too tight to >> fork out a couple of hundred for their own Resharper license etc. It's the >> tools of your trade for fucks sake! If you were a carpenter, you'd have >> your own tools. People spend thousands on hardware and then go all tight >> arsed on software and demand it to be Free (with a capital F)... /facepalm >> >> So you order yourself a new Surface? I'm hoping I get mine before I head >> off to Ignite. Ordered Surface Book, best specs I could get. Shiny! >> >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 07:21 David Connors wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 16:10 Stephen Price >>> wrote: >>> Anyone on the list going to Ignite and want to do a drinks and/or Indian meetup? >>> >>> Looks like it is just you and me again for the umpteenth year. >>> >>> -- >>> David Connors >>> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363 >>> >>
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
I find white collars tighter than blue collars by a long shot. Probably also has something to do with the fact that dev tools can become obsolete pretty quickly. Anyway $2k for an event? Give me a break On Friday, 23 October 2015, Stephen Price wrote: > Yeah, Developers (like many people) are tight arses / poor bastards. I > almost didn't go because of the ticket price, but got a Bizspark discount. > Microsoft need a freelancer/sole dev ticket price for the non corporate > people who are paying for it themselves. > > It also extends into tools. How many devs I've met who are too tight to > fork out a couple of hundred for their own Resharper license etc. It's the > tools of your trade for fucks sake! If you were a carpenter, you'd have > your own tools. People spend thousands on hardware and then go all tight > arsed on software and demand it to be Free (with a capital F)... /facepalm > > So you order yourself a new Surface? I'm hoping I get mine before I head > off to Ignite. Ordered Surface Book, best specs I could get. Shiny! > > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 07:21 David Connors > wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 16:10 Stephen Price > > wrote: >> >>> Anyone on the list going to Ignite and want to do a drinks and/or Indian >>> meetup? >>> >> >> Looks like it is just you and me again for the umpteenth year. >> >> -- >> David Connors >> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363 >> >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
I do like that they changed the format back to the big single event a surfers. No one can say the AU DPE team don't listen to feedback! I'm hoping they amp it up a notch with the new branding, and make it something different rather than just a new label. I think it's an extra day of events too, the old TechEd used to be 3 days, not 4. > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 07:21 David Connors wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 16:10 Stephen Price >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone on the list going to Ignite and want to do a drinks and/or Indian >>> meetup? >>> >> >> Looks like it is just you and me again for the umpteenth year. >> >> -- >> David Connors >> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363 >> >
Re: [OT] Clients
Thanks for comments everyone, all valid and taken on board. This is my first freelance style engagement, and is a massive learning curve. Cheers Grant On Oct 23, 2015 10:16 AM, "Stuart Kinnear" wrote: > There could be any number of reasons for one or more parties not attending > a meeting. If ample notice is given, there should be no reason that the > meeting could not be rescheduled. > > If the other members can attend and have sufficient authorisation, why not > proceed without the 3rd member and take minutes and / or recording if > warranted ? > > Should there be a last minute cancellation, you are justified in asking > for a reimbursement if there are costs involved. However, you have to work > out a way of clearly communicating that. If it's a long term relationship, > you might just have to wear it to keep the peace especially if it's a once > off. > > > - Stuart > > > > On 22 October 2015 at 19:28, Grant Molloy wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I'm working on a long running project for a client. >> They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was >> provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from >> client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and >> have responded to their request. >> Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable >> for the selected timeslot. >> I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. >> >> Have others had similar issues? >> How has it been handled? >> > > > > -- > > - > Stuart Kinnear > Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 > > SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd > acn. 81 072 778 262 > PO Box 6082 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia > > Business software developers. > SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. > > - >
Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
Yeah, Developers (like many people) are tight arses / poor bastards. I almost didn't go because of the ticket price, but got a Bizspark discount. Microsoft need a freelancer/sole dev ticket price for the non corporate people who are paying for it themselves. It also extends into tools. How many devs I've met who are too tight to fork out a couple of hundred for their own Resharper license etc. It's the tools of your trade for fucks sake! If you were a carpenter, you'd have your own tools. People spend thousands on hardware and then go all tight arsed on software and demand it to be Free (with a capital F)... /facepalm So you order yourself a new Surface? I'm hoping I get mine before I head off to Ignite. Ordered Surface Book, best specs I could get. Shiny! On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 at 07:21 David Connors wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 16:10 Stephen Price > wrote: > >> Anyone on the list going to Ignite and want to do a drinks and/or Indian >> meetup? >> > > Looks like it is just you and me again for the umpteenth year. > > -- > David Connors > da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363 >
RE: Mobile device photos
Just confirmed the browse button allowed me to choose a photo from various sources on my Windows Phone 8.1. I can choose to use the camera to take a new photo with one more "click", so the capture itself seems to be ignored. Mark Hurd. Sent from my Windows Phone. -Original Message- From: "ILT" Sent: 22/10/2015 1:50 PM To: "'ozDotNet'" Subject: RE: Mobile device photos Windows Phone 8.1 – anyone tried it (Chrome is n/a on these devices) Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Kirsten Greed Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:02 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mobile device photos The built in browser (Android Browser 4 on mine ) does bring up the camera From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 1:42 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mobile device photos Chrome is great. My brother works on the chrome team. Are you saying I can't trust my own family? On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM, DotNet Dude wrote: Don't let Greg hear you mention Chrome :p On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Kirsten Greed wrote: I think Mercury came with my phone. Will try installing Chrome From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 1:32 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mobile device photos I was unfamiliar with the Mercury browser too. Not sure what tech it is based on, but by the Play store's metrics it has been downloaded between 500,000 and 1,000,000 times. This sounds like a lot, but then you look at the numbers and see that Firefox has been downloaded between 100,000,000 and 500,000,000 times. Unless your metric show a compelling reason to do otherwise I wouldn't support boutique 3rd party browsers. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ilegendsoft.mercury&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox&hl=en It would be worth checking to see if the android 'built-in' browser (which is not Chrome) supports this, as it is likely much more widely used. Joseph On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:06 PM, David Burstin wrote: Mine worked on my HTC m8 using Chrome. What and why Mercury browser? On 22 October 2015 at 12:37, Kirsten Greed wrote: I went to the url on my android phone with it's Mercury browser but nothing happens when I touch Choose File From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:24 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mobile device photos Basically all it does it bring up the camera where you can take a photo. Then when you do a form POST it will be submitted like a normal input[type=file]. It even displays a little preview of the photo next to the input. Open this on your phone https://jsfiddle.net/wkwq6kLz/ Craig On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Greg Keogh wrote: I have done this before. This will basically work like a standard file upload input but will use the camera to select the file. Goog grief! That's like black magic. So you click the button rendered next to the control and what happens? In my case it looks like the initial devices in the field will be iPads. I'll read up on the expanded element and make a test page and try it on the weekend. Greg -- w: http://jcooney.net t: @josephcooney -- w: http://jcooney.net t: @josephcooney
Re: [OT] Clients
There could be any number of reasons for one or more parties not attending a meeting. If ample notice is given, there should be no reason that the meeting could not be rescheduled. If the other members can attend and have sufficient authorisation, why not proceed without the 3rd member and take minutes and / or recording if warranted ? Should there be a last minute cancellation, you are justified in asking for a reimbursement if there are costs involved. However, you have to work out a way of clearly communicating that. If it's a long term relationship, you might just have to wear it to keep the peace especially if it's a once off. - Stuart On 22 October 2015 at 19:28, Grant Molloy wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm working on a long running project for a client. > They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was > provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from > client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and > have responded to their request. > Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable for > the selected timeslot. > I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. > > Have others had similar issues? > How has it been handled? > -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6082 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
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Re: Ozdotnet Ignite drinks?
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 16:10 Stephen Price wrote: > Anyone on the list going to Ignite and want to do a drinks and/or Indian > meetup? > Looks like it is just you and me again for the umpteenth year. -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
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Hi guys, I asked a few weeks ago if anyone knew of positions going for a .net developer. My friend is now in Sydney and has sent me his cv. Thanks guys Sorry for the OT post Davy Resume_MRebuffet.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document Sent from my iPhone
Re: [OT] Clients
+1 Regards Greg Dr Greg Low SQL Down Under +61 419201410 1300SQLSQL (1300775775) On 22 Oct 2015, at 4:39 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk mailto:crai...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tell them you charge for meetings on normal hourly rate even if they are cancelled. Craig On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Grant Molloy mailto:graken...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi list, I'm working on a long running project for a client. They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and have responded to their request. Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable for the selected timeslot. I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. Have others had similar issues? How has it been handled?
Re: [OT] Clients
I've not done freelance for a long time, but have been doing consultancy. In my experience unless you have a stakeholder prepared to chase the parties on their side this is an all too common occurrence. I now try and schedule meetings with fewer people for less time, but perhaps more often or regularly (if that's needed if the client is difficult to schedule). Even if 2 out of the meeting of 4 pulls out, I'd try to continue with the meeting and tell them that it would be good to catch up with what we can, and schedule the another smaller meeting with the other individual(s). Often as a freelancer having meeting was more about reassuring them that their concerns were being met. But as people say your contract and your situation is always unique. regards, Preet, in Auckland NZ On 22 October 2015 at 23:16, DotNet Dude wrote: > I've been dicked around plenty and it still happens, over and over. > Depends on your contract as others have said but also on how many times > they've screwed you around. One cancelled meeting which is what I gather > from your email isn't the end of the world. Sh!t happens. > > > On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Grant Molloy wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I'm working on a long running project for a client. >> They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was >> provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from >> client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and >> have responded to their request. >> Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable >> for the selected timeslot. >> I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. >> >> Have others had similar issues? >> How has it been handled? >> >
Re: [OT] Clients
I've been dicked around plenty and it still happens, over and over. Depends on your contract as others have said but also on how many times they've screwed you around. One cancelled meeting which is what I gather from your email isn't the end of the world. Sh!t happens. On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Grant Molloy wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm working on a long running project for a client. > They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was > provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from > client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and > have responded to their request. > Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable for > the selected timeslot. > I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. > > Have others had similar issues? > How has it been handled? >
Re: [OT] Clients
Unless you know exactly what you are delivering and exactly how long it will take to deliver, fixed price is dumb. How many people exactly nail their estimates? If you can do that then fixed price is low risk. But software is normally a journey or discovering the unknown. How can you do fixed price without horrendously padding the price? Came up with a saying today. You've heard the saying "Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result." My new saying: Definition of Software development is doing the same thing over and over and getting a different result. On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 4:49 PM, Grant Molloy wrote: > Although this should be a standard clause in an IT contract, unfortunately > it is not in this one, and we're probably too far down the track to start! > > Is pretty annoying as they refuse to use electronic meeting facilities too. > > Has anyone successfully implemented charging for meetings partway into a > contract (fixed price)? > On Oct 22, 2015 6:39 PM, "Craig van Nieuwkerk" wrote: > >> Tell them you charge for meetings on normal hourly rate even if they are >> cancelled. >> >> Craig >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Grant Molloy >> wrote: >> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> I'm working on a long running project for a client. >>> They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was >>> provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from >>> client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and >>> have responded to their request. >>> Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable >>> for the selected timeslot. >>> I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. >>> >>> Have others had similar issues? >>> How has it been handled? >>> >> >>
Re: [OT] Clients
Although this should be a standard clause in an IT contract, unfortunately it is not in this one, and we're probably too far down the track to start! Is pretty annoying as they refuse to use electronic meeting facilities too. Has anyone successfully implemented charging for meetings partway into a contract (fixed price)? On Oct 22, 2015 6:39 PM, "Craig van Nieuwkerk" wrote: > Tell them you charge for meetings on normal hourly rate even if they are > cancelled. > > Craig > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Grant Molloy wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I'm working on a long running project for a client. >> They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was >> provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from >> client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and >> have responded to their request. >> Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable >> for the selected timeslot. >> I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. >> >> Have others had similar issues? >> How has it been handled? >> > >
Re: [OT] Clients
Tell them you charge for meetings on normal hourly rate even if they are cancelled. Craig On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Grant Molloy wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm working on a long running project for a client. > They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was > provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from > client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and > have responded to their request. > Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable for > the selected timeslot. > I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. > > Have others had similar issues? > How has it been handled? >
[OT] Clients
Hi list, I'm working on a long running project for a client. They've been reviewing recent mods and have called a meeting. I was provided a date range for said meeting where I was told all 3 reps from client would be available. I've selected a convenient date and time and have responded to their request. Meeting was all booked in and now one of them says they're unavailable for the selected timeslot. I have a feeling I'm being dicked around and am wondering how to respond. Have others had similar issues? How has it been handled?