Re: .Net based Email Newsletter
Thanks for the input. Both MailChimp and Campaign monitor look good in terms of functionalitybutI'm not sure that our business is going to be happy to hand over 5,000 or so 'customer' email addresses to a 3rd party, no matter how secure they claim to be. I'm definitely *not looking to build*, so is there an equivalent, self-hosted, off-the-shelf product that anyone has experience with? [Note I used 'CRM' in quotes because it's not really a CRM, it's a Student Information System that just happens to also contain a bunch of email addresses for people that we regularly send email to]. On 13 June 2013 12:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: + 1 for buy over build ** ** Have a look at Campaign Monitor http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ too. ** ** Cheers ** ** Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *Sent from the **new Office* http://office.com/preview ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:06 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: .Net based Email Newsletter ** ** Agreed. Mailchimp seems to be the most common one that I receive mail from, and from reading it’s info, it looks well managed. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:59 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: .Net based Email Newsletter ** ** Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the other million existing ones? They are very good. They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend delivering noise. They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the unsubscribe process. And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend days/weeks/months to build it :) ** ** My 2 cents. ** ** On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote: We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email Anthony *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Iain Carlin *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* .Net based Email Newsletter G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain ** **
Re: .Net based Email Newsletter
Don't worry about the issue of handing over all those email addresses. It's likely they already have them. :) The chances of them having none of the emails you have is pretty low, so you'd be just helping them out by making sure they have an up to date database. Your customers are likely already subscribed to a Mailchimp list of some kind, they are used by many. (Including me). It also handles the unsubscribe option automatically, as without that opt out option in each email, you are legally spamming them. +1 for outsourcing it. Then again if your business is happy for you to reinvent the wheel (or implement a secure wheel) and pay you, then all this is moot. The decision is out of your hands. Spell out the options, apply appropriate bias to your desired option, and away you go. :) My experience of Mailchimp is that they also give lots of feedback on ways you can improve your campaign. There's also built in protection against people using it for spamming. (ie too many people unsubscribing and it will suspend your account. things like that). Its quite mature. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Iain Carlin cut...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the input. Both MailChimp and Campaign monitor look good in terms of functionalitybutI'm not sure that our business is going to be happy to hand over 5,000 or so 'customer' email addresses to a 3rd party, no matter how secure they claim to be. I'm definitely *not looking to build*, so is there an equivalent, self-hosted, off-the-shelf product that anyone has experience with? [Note I used 'CRM' in quotes because it's not really a CRM, it's a Student Information System that just happens to also contain a bunch of email addresses for people that we regularly send email to]. On 13 June 2013 12:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: + 1 for buy over build ** ** Have a look at Campaign Monitor http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ too.*** * ** ** Cheers ** ** Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *Sent from the **new Office* http://office.com/preview ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:06 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: .Net based Email Newsletter ** ** Agreed. Mailchimp seems to be the most common one that I receive mail from, and from reading it’s info, it looks well managed. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:59 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: .Net based Email Newsletter ** ** Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the other million existing ones? They are very good. They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend delivering noise. They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the unsubscribe process. And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend days/weeks/months to build it :) ** ** My 2 cents. ** ** On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote: We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email Anthony *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Iain Carlin *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* .Net based Email Newsletter G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain ** **
RE: .Net based Email Newsletter
If MailChimp isn’t what you’re after, then how about SmartSerialMail http://www.jam-software.com/smartserialmail/ – by the same group that developed/markets a useful utility called TreeSize. It’s not .NET-based (it’s a stand-alone utility), but might be able to do what you want. You would need the Enterprise Edition ($US140) to handle bounces, etc, and to connect to your own SQL database. _ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Iain Carlin Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: .Net based Email Newsletter Thanks for the input. Both MailChimp and Campaign monitor look good in terms of functionalitybutI'm not sure that our business is going to be happy to hand over 5,000 or so 'customer' email addresses to a 3rd party, no matter how secure they claim to be. I'm definitely not looking to build, so is there an equivalent, self-hosted, off-the-shelf product that anyone has experience with? [Note I used 'CRM' in quotes because it's not really a CRM, it's a Student Information System that just happens to also contain a bunch of email addresses for people that we regularly send email to]. On 13 June 2013 12:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: + 1 for buy over build Have a look at http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ Campaign Monitor too. Cheers Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 tel:%2B61%20%282%29%209870%202719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 tel:%2B61%20%28416%29%20134%20993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 tel:%2B61%20%282%29%209870%202400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat Sent from the http://office.com/preview new Office From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:06 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: .Net based Email Newsletter Agreed. Mailchimp seems to be the most common one that I receive mail from, and from reading it’s info, it looks well managed. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:59 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: .Net based Email Newsletter Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the other million existing ones? They are very good. They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend delivering noise. They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the unsubscribe process. And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend days/weeks/months to build it :) My 2 cents. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote: We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email Anthony From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Iain Carlin Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: .Net based Email Newsletter G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain
RE: .Net based Email Newsletter
We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email Anthony From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Iain Carlin Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: .Net based Email Newsletter G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain
Re: .Net based Email Newsletter
Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the other million existing ones? They are very good. They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend delivering noise. They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the unsubscribe process. And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend days/weeks/months to build it :) My 2 cents. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote: We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email ** ** Anthony ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Iain Carlin *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* .Net based Email Newsletter ** ** G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain
RE: .Net based Email Newsletter
Agreed. Mailchimp seems to be the most common one that I receive mail from, and from reading it's info, it looks well managed. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:59 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: .Net based Email Newsletter Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the other million existing ones? They are very good. They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend delivering noise. They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the unsubscribe process. And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend days/weeks/months to build it :) My 2 cents. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.com mailto:ifum...@gmail.com wrote: We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email Anthony From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] On Behalf Of Iain Carlin Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: .Net based Email Newsletter G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain
Re: .Net based Email Newsletter
Also, Depending on what CRM system you have you might be able to integrate it with MailChimp in no time. Mailchimp has heaps of connectors to the most popular CRM systems either directly or through partners shamelesspluglike www.OneSaas.com - my own product/shamelessplug.
RE: .Net based Email Newsletter
+ 1 for buy over build Have a look at Campaign Monitorhttp://www.campaignmonitor.com/ too. Cheers Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat Sent from the new Officehttp://office.com/preview From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:06 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: .Net based Email Newsletter Agreed. Mailchimp seems to be the most common one that I receive mail from, and from reading it's info, it looks well managed. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:59 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: .Net based Email Newsletter Why build? Why not use a proper newsletter system? MailChimp or any of the other million existing ones? They are very good. They can also give you some deliverability and open rate reports which can tell you if your newsletter have any value or they are simply money spend delivering noise. They can also handle all the spam, take care of reputation and handle the unsubscribe process. And I think it's cheaper to use such a service than spend days/weeks/months to build it :) My 2 cents. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM, ifum...@gmail.commailto:ifum...@gmail.com wrote: We used telerik editor to achieve this...and you could use something like mailbee to do the bulk email Anthony From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Iain Carlin Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:02 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: .Net based Email Newsletter G'day all, We're looking for a solution to create a HTML newsletter with images and text that can be bulk emailed via SMTP to a list sourced from our 'CRM'. We'd prefer something .Net based as that fits with everything else we have. Has anyone got any recommendations? Cheers, Iain
