Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: We had a boy

[Jodie Miller]

Congratulations Tina and Marty!  It's so nice to receive such wonderful 
feedback about our beloved birth centre in Brisbane.

I'm 39wks pregnant myself and eagerly awaiting the birth at "our" birth 
centre.  Best of health and happiness to you and your family.

Jodie Miller
Friends of the Birth Centre Qld Assoc.
http://www.fbc.org.au


On Sunday 06 July 2003 19:46, M & T Holroyd wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: M & T Holroyd
> To: ozmidwifery
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:33 PM
> Subject: We had a boy
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I Just wanted to let you know how the birth of my fourth baby went. We had
> a beautiful big boy at the Birth Centre here in Brisbane.  It was a
> wonderful experience that I still tell people about even now 4 months later
> (just leave out some of the more personal details).  When I first rang my
> midwife I told her I had been having irregilar contractions since 5pm but
> now regular (approx 9.30pm) at 3min appart & that I was coping well at
> home, but with my history of fast labours she said I had better come in (I
> think she could hear something in my voice & Marty said he knew it was time
> to go anyway - I on the other hand was in my own world).  We woke the kids
> & packed them into the car & off we went.  On the way to the hospital my
> contractions got closer & in between contractions my almost 9yo daughter
> (Emilie) dozed, & my 6.5yo (Jeremy) & 3.5yo (Ethan) talked to me about what
> was happening.  Jeremy asked me if the baby was going to come out of my
> belly (he knew where a baby comes from but my sister had recently had a
> c/section) & Ethan piped up "babies come out of a mummy's vagina don't you
> know Jeremy"... this set me off laughing & along came another contraction. 
> Soon after another contraction (I would bang my head on the head rest for
> distraction) Jeremy said to me "Mummy how about you take big breaths in &
> out with your next pain to help" so I made an effort & he breathed along
> with me for the rest of the trip he was a real help.   I arrived at the
> BC with my husband, 3 children, mother & two sisters in tow at 10pm.  My
> Midwife had the tub full because she new I wanted a water birth, & she had
> beautiful music playing.  I got into the tub soon after arrival (it was
> like sinking into heaven - what wonderful pain relief), Marty sat on the
> edge of the tub to support me & my three children hopped in and paddled
> around me rubbing my back with a contraction.  Our midwife was wonderful &
> encouraged & welcomed my children... they felt so comfortable being there &
> we were all very excited.  After a few contractions I asked the kids to get
> out (I was feeling that I needed to focus & have my own space at this
> time... maybe going through transition?).  Not long after I started to
> push, push & push & even though the urge was as strong as it had ever been
> I didn't feel like I was moving my baby much at all (I'd never worked this
> hard at pushing before) & I had bad lower back hip pain with each
> contration (which was also new to me).  Anyway, a short time later his head
> emerged but I was still pushing with all my might & it felt to me like he
> just wasn't going any further so when I heard our midwife tell Marty to get
> me up "now" I knew there was a good reason & was already on my way up & she
> had to give him a little tug because his shoulders were tight, he was born
> at 10.51pm on Sat 15th March (11 days before Emilie's birthday).  I had
> minimal blood loss & a physiological third stage on the birth stool. 
> Emilie cut the cord prior to third stage being complete but after it had
> stopped pulsating (she normally hates the sight of blood or even hearing
> the word but to be involved & cut the cord didn't bother her).  I offered
> him a feed whilst waiting for placenta but he was to busy letting the world
> know that he was here.  He weighed 4540 grams (10lb) & was my biggest baby
> by almost 500 grams.  I had not even a graze & didn't even feel like I had
> had a baby (was that the mostly water birth?).  He breastfed well & he is
> still thriving.  Our midwife showed Emilie & I my placenta & Emilie was
> very interested... midwife explained it all to her.  Emilie made the
> comment "it looks yucky mummy but I know it is very important & it's also
> good to know for when I go to Aunty Leasa's (my sister who was present)
> next birth (she is inviting herself & baby is not even planned yet)".
>
> This was my first BC baby, my first waterbirth, my first birth without VE,
> my first birth without any form of drugs (1st baby gas & peth, 2nd & 3rd
> gas only), my first birth in a squating position/upright (all others were
> semi-sitting), my first physiological third stage, first birth where the
> midwife truly trusted me & my ability.  Also the first time any of my
> children attended a birth.  All of my births were amazing & beautiful, but
> this was that little bit more special because I truly got what I wanted & I
> new

Re: [ozmidwifery] birth

[Deliverywoman]

Hi Kelly,
 
Rita here (from the active birth workshop).   The only time that genital herpes is a 'problem' at birth is if there is a current outbreak.  If she has no outbreak it cannot be passed onto the babe.
 
If she starts to feel the onset of a breakout just prior to her due date, I would suggest to seek medical advice regarding use of medication to either help prevent the breakout or help resolve quicker, given that the majority of creams are not recommended during pregnancy, the pros and the cons would need to be weighed up here in regards to resolving the outbreak vs c/section.
 
I would be asking her if she is aware that an outbreak is coming (such as the tingling feeling when the blister is forming) and if her outbreaks are common or uncommon, length of outbreak etc.  All this information may aid in helping with decisions when the due date approaches. ie: if she tells you her outbreaks usually last for ? days, then if an outbreak occurs prior to due date you have a general idea of howlong the outbreak will last etc.
 
Hope this helps Kelly,
 
Let me know how things go
 
Yours in Childbirth and
with the Love of Friendship
Rita



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Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout

[hplerchbacher]

Same here. I thought perhaps QNC may have released 
our names. 
Ping

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Leigh Evans 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:48 
AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil 
  mailout
  
  Yes, I got it too. Leigh
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Tom, Tania and 
Sam Smallwood 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:07 
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil 
mailout

Was anyone else on the list the lucky recipient of the 
cute little Cervidil brochure last week?  I wondered how they accessed 
my details and so fired off this email to the product manager using some of 
the quotes they spout off as the benefits of Cervidil
 
 
""Dear Sue, 
 
I am writing to request information on how I managed to 
become a recipient of the recent mailout of information about 
Cervadil.  I am not aware of having provided my details to CSL, 
although I may have, and would be interested to know how my name became 
included on your list.  
 
I would also appreciate it if you would not send any 
further information, and please remove me from your mailing list.  I 
work as an independent midwife, and have no interest in ripening women's 
cervices, as the women I birth with seem to be able to manage this quite 
well without any interference from me!  I provide 'effective and well 
tolerated' support as a midwife, and I'm told by the WHO that my services 
are 'cost effective' too!  
 
Thank you, in anticipation of your response,
 
Tania Smallwood"
 
 
Now comes the good bit, I'm appalled to say that this was her 
response
 
 
"Hi Tania,CSL hired the list for the mailing from the Australasian 
College of Midwives. We hired the list as a once-off and will not hire it 
again.However, you are obviously completely within your rights to ask 
them to keep your name off all future mailings. It would probably be best if 
you do this as I don't think I can do this on your behalf.Thanks for 
your response.Regards, Sue"
 
Does it disturb anyone else that the ACMI are selling our details to a 
drug company (or anyone for that matter?), or am I jumping the gun?  I 
just normally recycle this type of propaganda, but this really has me riled 
up.  I'm in the middle of writing to the ACMI for an explanation, but 
was just wondering if anyone else thought the same way as I did?
 
Cheers
 
Tania
 
 
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] birth

[Sally Westbury]

I like the new zealand herpes site... good balanced information.

http://www.herpes.org.nz/

Love Sally

- Original Email -
From: Kelly Yates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06-Jul-2003 22:05
Subject: [ozmidwifery] birth

> 
>   Hello all,
>   I have a friend who is due sometime oin december and would love to have a
natural birth.
>   She has genital herpes and is concerned that shw may have to have a
ceasarean. Does anyone out there know of some good information I can pass on
to her about this?
>   Cheers
>   Kelly
> 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: We had a boy

[Leigh Evans]

Congrats Tina. Wonderful story. Leigh

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  M & T Holroyd 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:46 PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: We had a 
  boy
  
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: M & T Holroyd 
  To: ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:33 PM
  Subject: We had a boy
  
  Hi, 
   
  I Just wanted to let you know how the birth of my 
  fourth baby went. We had a beautiful big boy at the Birth Centre here in 
  Brisbane.  It was a wonderful experience that I still tell people about 
  even now 4 months later (just leave out some of the more personal 
  details).  When I first rang my midwife I told her I had been having 
  irregilar contractions since 5pm but now regular (approx 9.30pm) at 
  3min appart & that I was coping well at home, but with my history of 
  fast labours she said I had better come in (I think she could hear something 
  in my voice & Marty said he knew it was time to go anyway - I on the other 
  hand was in my own world).  We woke the kids & packed them into the 
  car & off we went.  On the way to the hospital my contractions got 
  closer & in between contractions my almost 9yo daughter (Emilie) dozed, 
  & my 6.5yo (Jeremy) & 3.5yo (Ethan) talked to me about what 
  was happening.  Jeremy asked me if the baby was going to come out of my 
  belly (he knew where a baby comes from but my sister had recently had a 
  c/section) & Ethan piped up "babies come out of a mummy's vagina don't you 
  know Jeremy"... this set me off laughing & along came another 
  contraction.  Soon after another contraction (I would bang my head on the 
  head rest for distraction) Jeremy said to me "Mummy how about you take big 
  breaths in & out with your next pain to help" so I made an effort & he 
  breathed along with me for the rest of the trip he was a real 
  help.   I arrived at the BC with my husband, 3 children, mother 
  & two sisters in tow at 10pm.  My Midwife had the tub full 
  because she new I wanted a water birth, & she had beautiful music 
  playing.  I got into the tub soon after arrival (it was like sinking into 
  heaven - what wonderful pain relief), Marty sat on the edge of the tub to 
  support me & my three children hopped in and paddled around me rubbing my 
  back with a contraction.  Our midwife was wonderful & encouraged 
  & welcomed my children... they felt so comfortable being there & 
  we were all very excited.  After a few contractions I asked the kids to 
  get out (I was feeling that I needed to focus & have my own space at this 
  time... maybe going through transition?).  Not long after I started to 
  push, push & push & even though the urge was as strong as it had ever 
  been I didn't feel like I was moving my baby much at all (I'd never worked 
  this hard at pushing before) & I had bad lower back hip pain 
  with each contration (which was also new to me).  Anyway, a short time 
  later his head emerged but I was still pushing with all my might & it felt 
  to me like he just wasn't going any further so when I heard our midwife tell 
  Marty to get me up "now" I knew there was a good reason & was already on 
  my way up & she had to give him a little tug because his shoulders were 
  tight, he was born at 10.51pm on Sat 15th March (11 days before Emilie's 
  birthday).  I had minimal blood loss & a physiological third 
  stage on the birth stool.  Emilie cut the cord prior to third stage being 
  complete but after it had stopped pulsating (she normally hates the sight 
  of blood or even hearing the word but to be involved & cut the cord didn't 
  bother her).  I offered him a feed whilst waiting for placenta but he was 
  to busy letting the world know that he was here.  He weighed 4540 grams 
  (10lb) & was my biggest baby by almost 500 grams.  I had not even a 
  graze & didn't even feel like I had had a baby (was that the mostly water 
  birth?).  He breastfed well & he is still thriving.  Our midwife 
  showed Emilie & I my placenta & Emilie was very interested... midwife 
  explained it all to her.  Emilie made the comment "it looks yucky mummy 
  but I know it is very important & it's also good to know for when I go to 
  Aunty Leasa's (my sister who was present) next birth (she is inviting herself 
  & baby is not even planned yet)".
   
  This was my first BC baby, my first waterbirth, 
  my first birth without VE, my first birth without any form of drugs (1st 
  baby gas & peth, 2nd & 3rd gas only), my first birth in a squating 
  position/upright (all others were semi-sitting), my first physiological 
  third stage, first birth where the midwife truly trusted me & my 
  ability.  Also the first time any of my children attended a birth.  
  All of my births were amazing & beautiful, but this was that little bit 
  more special because I truly got what I wanted & I new exactly what I 
  wanted before hand.  Also there is alot to be said (as you all know) for 
  kno

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout

[Leigh Evans]

Yes, I got it too. Leigh

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom, Tania and Sam 
  Smallwood 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:07 AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil 
  mailout
  
  Was anyone else on the list the lucky recipient of the cute 
  little Cervidil brochure last week?  I wondered how they accessed my 
  details and so fired off this email to the product manager using some of the 
  quotes they spout off as the benefits of Cervidil
   
   
  ""Dear Sue, 
   
  I am writing to request information on how I managed to 
  become a recipient of the recent mailout of information about Cervadil.  
  I am not aware of having provided my details to CSL, although I may have, and 
  would be interested to know how my name became included on your list.  
  
   
  I would also appreciate it if you would not send any further 
  information, and please remove me from your mailing list.  I work as an 
  independent midwife, and have no interest in ripening women's cervices, as the 
  women I birth with seem to be able to manage this quite well without any 
  interference from me!  I provide 'effective and well tolerated' support 
  as a midwife, and I'm told by the WHO that my services are 'cost effective' 
  too!  
   
  Thank you, in anticipation of your response,
   
  Tania Smallwood"
   
   
  Now comes the good bit, I'm appalled to say that this was her 
  response
   
   
  "Hi Tania,CSL hired the list for the mailing from the Australasian 
  College of Midwives. We hired the list as a once-off and will not hire it 
  again.However, you are obviously completely within your rights to ask them 
  to keep your name off all future mailings. It would probably be best if you do 
  this as I don't think I can do this on your behalf.Thanks for your 
  response.Regards, Sue"
   
  Does it disturb anyone else that the ACMI are selling our details to a 
  drug company (or anyone for that matter?), or am I jumping the gun?  I 
  just normally recycle this type of propaganda, but this really has me riled 
  up.  I'm in the middle of writing to the ACMI for an explanation, but was 
  just wondering if anyone else thought the same way as I did?
   
  Cheers
   
  Tania
   
   

[ozmidwifery] birth

[Kelly Yates]

 

  Hello all,
  I have a friend who is due sometime oin december 
  and would love to have a natural birth.
  She has genital herpes and is concerned that shw 
  may have to have a ceasarean. Does anyone out there know of some good 
  information I can pass on to her about this?
  Cheers
  Kelly

[ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout

[Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood]

Was anyone else on the list the lucky recipient of the cute 
little Cervidil brochure last week?  I wondered how they accessed my 
details and so fired off this email to the product manager using some of the 
quotes they spout off as the benefits of Cervidil
 
 
""Dear Sue,
 
I am writing to request information on how I managed to become 
a recipient of the recent mailout of information about Cervadil.  I am not 
aware of having provided my details to CSL, although I may have, and would be 
interested to know how my name became included on your list.  
 
I would also appreciate it if you would not send any further 
information, and please remove me from your mailing list.  I work as an 
independent midwife, and have no interest in ripening women's cervices, as the 
women I birth with seem to be able to manage this quite well without any 
interference from me!  I provide 'effective and well tolerated' support as 
a midwife, and I'm told by the WHO that my services are 'cost effective' 
too!  
 
Thank you, in anticipation of your response,
 
Tania Smallwood"
 
 
Now comes the good bit, I'm appalled to say that this was her 
response
 
 
"Hi Tania,CSL hired the list for the mailing from the Australasian 
College of Midwives. We hired the list as a once-off and will not hire it 
again.However, you are obviously completely within your rights to ask them 
to keep your name off all future mailings. It would probably be best if you do 
this as I don't think I can do this on your behalf.Thanks for your 
response.Regards, Sue"
 
Does it disturb anyone else that the ACMI are selling our details to a drug 
company (or anyone for that matter?), or am I jumping the gun?  I just 
normally recycle this type of propaganda, but this really has me riled up.  
I'm in the middle of writing to the ACMI for an explanation, but was just 
wondering if anyone else thought the same way as I did?
 
Cheers
 
Tania
 
 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Jumpy legs

[Dierdre Bowman]

HI Sheena,
 
Restless legs seems to be getting more 
common.  But not just in pregnancy. My husband and a friend both suffer 
with Restless leg syndrome.  Recent it was suggested to my husband to take 
silicea gel. It's a little expensive but works wonderfully.  You simply 
swallow a teaspoon full up to 3 times a day.  While he takes it. He never 
gets restless legs!
 
It 's worth looking in to.
Blessings
Dierdre B.

[ozmidwifery] Fw: We had a boy

[M & T Holroyd]

 
- Original Message - 
From: M 
& T Holroyd 
To: ozmidwifery 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:33 PM
Subject: We had a boy

Hi, 
 
I Just wanted to let you know how the birth of my 
fourth baby went. We had a beautiful big boy at the Birth Centre here in 
Brisbane.  It was a wonderful experience that I still tell people about 
even now 4 months later (just leave out some of the more personal 
details).  When I first rang my midwife I told her I had been having 
irregilar contractions since 5pm but now regular (approx 9.30pm) at 
3min appart & that I was coping well at home, but with my history of 
fast labours she said I had better come in (I think she could hear something in 
my voice & Marty said he knew it was time to go anyway - I on the other hand 
was in my own world).  We woke the kids & packed them into the car 
& off we went.  On the way to the hospital my contractions got closer 
& in between contractions my almost 9yo daughter (Emilie) dozed, & my 
6.5yo (Jeremy) & 3.5yo (Ethan) talked to me about what was 
happening.  Jeremy asked me if the baby was going to come out of my belly 
(he knew where a baby comes from but my sister had recently had a c/section) 
& Ethan piped up "babies come out of a mummy's vagina don't you know 
Jeremy"... this set me off laughing & along came another contraction.  
Soon after another contraction (I would bang my head on the head rest for 
distraction) Jeremy said to me "Mummy how about you take big breaths in & 
out with your next pain to help" so I made an effort & he breathed along 
with me for the rest of the trip he was a real help.   I arrived 
at the BC with my husband, 3 children, mother & two sisters in tow 
at 10pm.  My Midwife had the tub full because she new I wanted a water 
birth, & she had beautiful music playing.  I got into the tub soon 
after arrival (it was like sinking into heaven - what wonderful pain relief), 
Marty sat on the edge of the tub to support me & my three children hopped in 
and paddled around me rubbing my back with a contraction.  Our midwife was 
wonderful & encouraged & welcomed my children... they felt so 
comfortable being there & we were all very excited.  After a few 
contractions I asked the kids to get out (I was feeling that I needed to focus 
& have my own space at this time... maybe going through transition?).  
Not long after I started to push, push & push & even though the urge was 
as strong as it had ever been I didn't feel like I was moving my baby much at 
all (I'd never worked this hard at pushing before) & I had bad 
lower back hip pain with each contration (which was also new to 
me).  Anyway, a short time later his head emerged but I was still pushing 
with all my might & it felt to me like he just wasn't going any further so 
when I heard our midwife tell Marty to get me up "now" I knew there was a good 
reason & was already on my way up & she had to give him a little tug 
because his shoulders were tight, he was born at 10.51pm on Sat 15th March (11 
days before Emilie's birthday).  I had minimal blood loss & 
a physiological third stage on the birth stool.  Emilie cut the cord 
prior to third stage being complete but after it had stopped pulsating (she 
normally hates the sight of blood or even hearing the word but to be involved 
& cut the cord didn't bother her).  I offered him a feed whilst waiting 
for placenta but he was to busy letting the world know that he was here.  
He weighed 4540 grams (10lb) & was my biggest baby by almost 500 
grams.  I had not even a graze & didn't even feel like I had had a baby 
(was that the mostly water birth?).  He breastfed well & he is still 
thriving.  Our midwife showed Emilie & I my placenta & Emilie was 
very interested... midwife explained it all to her.  Emilie made the 
comment "it looks yucky mummy but I know it is very important & it's also 
good to know for when I go to Aunty Leasa's (my sister who was present) next 
birth (she is inviting herself & baby is not even planned 
yet)".
 
This was my first BC baby, my first waterbirth, my 
first birth without VE, my first birth without any form of drugs (1st baby 
gas & peth, 2nd & 3rd gas only), my first birth in a squating 
position/upright (all others were semi-sitting), my first physiological 
third stage, first birth where the midwife truly trusted me & my 
ability.  Also the first time any of my children attended a birth.  
All of my births were amazing & beautiful, but this was that little bit more 
special because I truly got what I wanted & I new exactly what I wanted 
before hand.  Also there is alot to be said (as you all know) for knowing 
your midwife.. then you can trust each other.
 
I have to say that I did end up with the 
excruciating afterbirth pains that were worse than they had ever been (but 
lasted for less days than previously)... hot packs & panadeine helped me 
through but only just.  
 
Thankyou for listening to my story (wish I had the 
creative writting gift so that I cou