[ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth
There has been discussion on a committee I am involved with regarding the practice of Lotus Birth and whether women should be "allowed" this, I am familiar with this practice but a couple of issues were raised : What evidence is available to support this practice ? Why do women choose to do this? Is there an increased risk of infection etc ? When will the cord/placenta separate? I believe in informed choice and I am keen to present this in an evidenced based manner to allow women the choice.I have my own experience and thoughts but additional research/ evidence would be appreciated. Many Thanks Anne Brisbane.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth
Thankyou everyone I will gather all the information etc and present this in the forum.The priority is the woman and her right to choose, I have attended women at a home LB with no problems, but unfortunatly in my position and this environment I need to make sure that they have no reason to implement unacceplble guidelines on the women, Many Thanks, Anne - Original Message - From: "Kathy McCarthy-Bushby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ozmidwifery" Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi Anne, There is a book on lotus birth called "Lotus Birth" compiled by Shivam Rachana, Greenwood Press, Steeds Creek, Australia, 2000. I think i got my copy from acegraphics. The book covers some information on medical evidence with articles by Dr. Sarah Buckley "Leaving well alone. A natural approach to the third stage of labour" as well as some story telling by women who chose lotus birth and that's what i call women's evidence. Both forms of evidence as just as valid as each other. cheers kathy - Original Message - From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth > Hi Anne, > > > > I coordinate Homebirth Access Sydney and our last issue of Birthings > magazine focused on Lotus Birth. It has a few birth stories in it and other > information regarding the practice, how to care for the placenta, the > reasons why women choose this option etc. I do have a few copies left > so if > you would like me to send you one just email me your address and I'll pop it > in the post. > > > > You may also like to try > > > > www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_ > <http://www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_lotus_birth.pdf> lotus_birth.pdf > > > > www.humantransformation.com.au <http://www.humantransformation.com.au/> > > > > > > Good luck > > > > Jo > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Peter Moore > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 8:30 PM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth > > > > There has been discussion on a committee I am involved with regarding the > practice of Lotus Birth and whether women should be "allowed" this, I > am > familiar with this practice but a couple of issues were raised : > > What evidence is available to support this practice ? > > Why do women choose to do this? > > Is there an increased risk of infection etc ? > > When will the cord/placenta separate? > > I believe in informed choice and I am keen to present this in an evidenced > based manner to allow women the choice.I have my own experience and thoughts > but additional research/ evidence would be appreciated. > > Many Thanks Anne > > Brisbane. > > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth
Dear Jackie, the responses I received were no less than I expected and hoped for. If I can resolve this at source as I will try to do then it should not develop any further. If there is no evidence then it has to be the woman's right to make an informed decision from any information/resource available ie women's experiences etc. Many Thanks, Anne Original Message - From: "Jackie Doolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Anne, I wish you every success and after an extensive search not surprisingly found little level one or two research on this. You have been given all the sources I know - Perhaps the WHO Care of the Umbilical Cord: a review of the evidence may be helpful? If it should come to pass that women are informed that lotus birth will not be performed and women seeking this should birth elsewhere I am very concerned at how the new Qld child safety laws could be (mis)used after this point. Fortunately this legislation has no jurisdiction over the unborn baby but when a lotus birth is demanded by a woman in a hospital that does not 'allow' it, will this then lead hospital management to threaten to envoke this legislation, using the argument that the woman is unnecessarily putting the child at risk of infection or salt absorption? I see this mandating of what women can and can not choose as the beginning of adverserial relationships between women and health care professionals (reminiscent of Qld woman refusing C/S and finding other hospital to access VBAC). In Queensland we desparately need the legal debate between woman's rights versus neonatal rights (basis of child safety law) to be played out. Jackie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Peter Moore Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:58 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Thankyou everyone I will gather all the information etc and present this in the forum.The priority is the woman and her right to choose, I have attended women at a home LB with no problems, but unfortunatly in my position and this environment I need to make sure that they have no reason to implement unacceplble guidelines on the women, Many Thanks, Anne - Original Message - From: "Kathy McCarthy-Bushby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ozmidwifery" Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi Anne, There is a book on lotus birth called "Lotus Birth" compiled by Shivam Rachana, Greenwood Press, Steeds Creek, Australia, 2000. I think i got my copy from acegraphics. The book covers some information on medical evidence with articles by Dr. Sarah Buckley "Leaving well alone. A natural approach to the third stage of labour" as well as some story telling by women who chose lotus birth and that's what i call women's evidence. Both forms of evidence as just as valid as each other. cheers kathy - Original Message - From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth > Hi Anne, > > > > I coordinate Homebirth Access Sydney and our last issue of > Birthings magazine focused on Lotus Birth. It has a few birth > stories in it and other > information regarding the practice, how to care for the placenta, > the reasons why women choose this option etc. I do have a few > copies left so if > you would like me to send you one just email me your address and > I'll pop it > in the post. > > > > You may also like to try > > > > www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_ > <http://www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_lotus_birth.pdf> lotus_birth.pdf > > > > www.humantransformation.com.au > <http://www.humantransformation.com.au/> > > > > > > Good luck > > > > Jo > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne > Peter Moore > Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 8:30 PM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth > > > > There has been discussion on a committee I am involved with > regarding the > practice of Lotus Birth and whether women should be "allowed" this, > I > am > familiar with this practice but a couple of issues were raised : > > What evidence is available to support this practice ? > > Why do women choose to do this? > > Is there an increased risk of infection etc ? > > When will the cord/placenta separate? > > I believe in informed choice and I am keen to present this in an evidenced > based manner to allow women the choice.I have my own experience and thoughts > but a
Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth
Dear Jo, can I e-mail you my address of list? Many Thanks Anne - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi JO, Please would you send me a copy of the Birthing Mag featuring "Lotus Birth" for the Midwives Clinic at our Unit. We have requests for info this would address & I'll copy the links you've suggested for women to look at. Thank you. With kind regardsBrenda Manning http://www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth Hi Anne, I coordinate Homebirth Access Sydney and our last issue of Birthings magazine focused on Lotus Birth. It has a few birth stories in it and other information regarding the practice, how to care for the placenta, the reasons why women choose this option etc. I do have a few copies left so if you would like me to send you one just email me your address and Ill pop it in the post. You may also like to try www.womenofspirit.asn.au/docs/sb_lotus_birth.pdf www.humantransformation.com.au Good luck Jo From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Anne Peter MooreSent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 8:30 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Lotus Birth There has been discussion on a committee I am involved with regarding the practice of Lotus Birth and whether women should be "allowed" this, I am familiar with this practice but a couple of issues were raised : What evidence is available to support this practice ? Why do women choose to do this? Is there an increased risk of infection etc ? When will the cord/placenta separate? I believe in informed choice and I am keen to present this in an evidenced based manner to allow women the choice.I have my own experience and thoughts but additional research/ evidence would be appreciated. Many Thanks Anne Brisbane.
