Re: Silverlight 4 Unit Testing

[Peter Gfader]

Hi Ola

I would say the latter one ;-)

#1
The export of the recorded test steps from the "Telerik WebUI Test Studio"
to VS2010 did never work for me on the latest version.
*Bug or feature not sure. I am in contact with them so they will let me know
what it is.*

#2
The generation of test code (in Telerik's integrated VS tool, "Convert all
steps to code") is not so nice and produces always build errors (Manual
adding of dll references,
I had never big problems by using MS tools: "Generate Coded UI tests" (not
for Silverlight though)

#3
Tests run nice in VS but not on the Build Server. My guess: Build server
cannot spawn an iexplore or firefox UI process... *I stick to unit tests and
I am happy so far...*

.peter.gfader.
http://blog.gfader.com/
http://twitter.com/peitor



On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Ola Karlsson wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks for the info :)
>
> When you say the Telerik stuff is a bit tricky to set up on a build server,
> do you mean tricky as in, a bit tricky but not to bad.
> Or tricky as in a royal pain in the backside to get it to work?
>
> Cheers,
> Ola
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Peter Gfader  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ola
>>
>> Roy Osherove has done a good presentation about unit testing in
>> Silverlight on NDC2009
>>
>> http://osherove.com/videos/2009/8/25/unit-testing-in-silverlight-silverunit-and-ms-sliverlight-te.html
>>
>> Regarding Silverlight UI tests:
>> VS2010 doesn't support testing of the Silverlight UI yet
>> Microsoft says they will release a CTP version of Silverlight testing in
>> Q2CY2010
>>
>> I had very good experience by using Teleriks WebUI studio.
>> + Nice easy recorder
>> + Nice integration into VS
>> - Bit of a hassle to setup on build server
>>
>> *I have realized that "Silverlight" and "unit-testing" in the same
>> sentence is a slippery affair  ;-)*
>>
>> .peter.gfader.
>> http://blog.gfader.com/
>> http://twitter.com/peitor
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ola Karlsson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi people,
>>>
>>> I'm wanting to start using unit testing for my Silverlight projects (yes
>>> I confess I've not been doing it previously, but hey better late than never
>>> right), however having a look around on the web, there doesn't seem to be a
>>> very clear story on unit testing for Silverlight in general. A lot of the
>>> info I found seems to be quite old and somewhat out of date.
>>>
>>> So I was hoping you guys might be able to point me in the right
>>> direction, what are people doing for this, does it work with automated build
>>> servers etc. any tips and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ola
>>>
>>>
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Re: Silverlight 4 Unit Testing

[Ola Karlsson]

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the info :)

When you say the Telerik stuff is a bit tricky to set up on a build server,
do you mean tricky as in, a bit tricky but not to bad.
Or tricky as in a royal pain in the backside to get it to work?

Cheers,
Ola

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Peter Gfader  wrote:

> Hi Ola
>
> Roy Osherove has done a good presentation about unit testing in Silverlight
> on NDC2009
>
> http://osherove.com/videos/2009/8/25/unit-testing-in-silverlight-silverunit-and-ms-sliverlight-te.html
>
> Regarding Silverlight UI tests:
> VS2010 doesn't support testing of the Silverlight UI yet
> Microsoft says they will release a CTP version of Silverlight testing in
> Q2CY2010
>
> I had very good experience by using Teleriks WebUI studio.
> + Nice easy recorder
> + Nice integration into VS
> - Bit of a hassle to setup on build server
>
> *I have realized that "Silverlight" and "unit-testing" in the same
> sentence is a slippery affair  ;-)*
>
> .peter.gfader.
> http://blog.gfader.com/
> http://twitter.com/peitor
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ola Karlsson wrote:
>
>> Hi people,
>>
>> I'm wanting to start using unit testing for my Silverlight projects (yes I
>> confess I've not been doing it previously, but hey better late than never
>> right), however having a look around on the web, there doesn't seem to be a
>> very clear story on unit testing for Silverlight in general. A lot of the
>> info I found seems to be quite old and somewhat out of date.
>>
>> So I was hoping you guys might be able to point me in the right direction,
>> what are people doing for this, does it work with automated build servers
>> etc. any tips and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ola
>>
>>
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Re: Silverlight 4 Unit Testing

[Peter Gfader]

Hi Ola

Roy Osherove has done a good presentation about unit testing in Silverlight
on NDC2009
http://osherove.com/videos/2009/8/25/unit-testing-in-silverlight-silverunit-and-ms-sliverlight-te.html

Regarding Silverlight UI tests:
VS2010 doesn't support testing of the Silverlight UI yet
Microsoft says they will release a CTP version of Silverlight testing in
Q2CY2010

I had very good experience by using Teleriks WebUI studio.
+ Nice easy recorder
+ Nice integration into VS
- Bit of a hassle to setup on build server

*I have realized that "Silverlight" and "unit-testing" in the same sentence
is a slippery affair  ;-)*

.peter.gfader.
http://blog.gfader.com/
http://twitter.com/peitor


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ola Karlsson wrote:

> Hi people,
>
> I'm wanting to start using unit testing for my Silverlight projects (yes I
> confess I've not been doing it previously, but hey better late than never
> right), however having a look around on the web, there doesn't seem to be a
> very clear story on unit testing for Silverlight in general. A lot of the
> info I found seems to be quite old and somewhat out of date.
>
> So I was hoping you guys might be able to point me in the right direction,
> what are people doing for this, does it work with automated build servers
> etc. any tips and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Ola
>
>
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Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Miguel Madero]

I followed this
post
and
created a base VHD with Windows 7 with my configuration (e.g. taskbar at the
left, google as my homepage, etc) and common tools (e.g. Tortoise, GIT,
FileZilla, Skype, Live, VS08) and then everytime I need another OS, I just
create a new VHD based on that one, boot in 1 minute and start installing
the new software. It's awesome and I didn't noticed a performance hit.
If you plan to do it, use that post a step by step guide.


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>   /Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment.
>
>
>
> My lawyers will contact you. I’m suing your for deformation.
>
>
>
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Re: Silverlight 4

[Scott Barnes]

Sometimes the runtime teams have already begun prototyping features for vnext 
months before sl is released. As the release times often are focused on 
events(mix etc)  so if you finish early may aswell get started on the next 
launch ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:40 AM, "Winston Pang" 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Wow, that's pretty fast, already planning for next release. I barely have time 
to catch up with using SL4.



On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Peter Blois 
<<mailto:pete...@microsoft.com>pete...@microsoft.com<mailto:pete...@microsoft.com>>
 wrote:
Don’t forget .NET 3.5 & SL3 support too ☺.

Back to triaging Blend 4 bugs, speccing Blend for Windows Phone features, 
planning Blend 5, SL5 & WPF vNext features. Time to relax after shipping? Bah!
From: <mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com> 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:24 PM

To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their 
shipping dependencies..heheh

- VS2010 compat
- .NET 4 compat
- SL4 compat
- WP7 compat
+ New Features

All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after 
SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words 
"poor bastards"... they appear to have come through in the end

Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering.




From: <mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com> 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[<mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au>j...@soulsolutions.com.au<mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au>]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
<http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx>
 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: <mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com> 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: <mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com> 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[<mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>n...@builttoroam.com<mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
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From: <mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com> 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just 

Re: Silverlight 4

[Winston Pang]

Wow, that's pretty fast, already planning for next release. I barely have
time to catch up with using SL4.



On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Peter Blois  wrote:

> Don’t forget .NET 3.5 & SL3 support too J.
>
>
>
> Back to triaging Blend 4 bugs, speccing Blend for Windows Phone features,
> planning Blend 5, SL5 & WPF vNext features. Time to relax after shipping?
> Bah!
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:24 PM
>
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
>
>
> Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their
> shipping dependencies..heheh
>
>
>
> - VS2010 compat
>
> - .NET 4 compat
>
> - SL4 compat
>
> - WP7 compat
>
> + New Features
>
>
>
> All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule
> after SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the
> words "poor bastards"... they appear to have come through in the end
>
>
>
> Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [
> j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
> *To:* 'ozSilverlight'
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
> Great post from Tim explaining it all:
> http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx
>
>
>
> Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what
> I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the
> only problematic piece of the puzzle.
>
>
>
> John.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Knight
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
>
>
> + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's
> done :)
> --
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [
> n...@builttoroam.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
> Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all
> the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I
> know what I’d prefer.
>
>
>
> *Nick Randolph** *| *Built To Roam* | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
> Development | +61 412 413 425
> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
> intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
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> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* Re: Silverlight 4
>
>
>
> Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all
> these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM
> bits at once.
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight  wrote:
>
> Yuppers
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
> wrote:
>
> So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
> wrote:
>
> Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
> Silverlight 4 itself!
>
> Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
> Development | +61 412 413 425
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
> To: ozS

RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Greg Keogh]

/Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment.

 

My lawyers will contact you. I'm suing your for deformation.

 

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Re: Silverlight 4

[Scott Barnes]

Lol that'd right you guys get like a day relaxation before vnext planning and 
production kicks in!

I needed a relaxation and all I did was readify.net<http://readify.net> new 
site - beers on me pete when I'm next back in Seattle :) job well done!

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2010, at 2:11 AM, "Peter Blois" 
mailto:pete...@microsoft.com>> wrote:

Don’t forget .NET 3.5 & SL3 support too ☺.

Back to triaging Blend 4 bugs, speccing Blend for Windows Phone features, 
planning Blend 5, SL5 & WPF vNext features. Time to relax after shipping? Bah!
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:24 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their 
shipping dependencies..heheh

- VS2010 compat
- .NET 4 compat
- SL4 compat
- WP7 compat
+ New Features

All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after 
SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words 
"poor bastards"... they appear to have come through in the end

Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering.




From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
<http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx>
 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
<<mailto:jak...@gmail.com>jak...@gmail.com<mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
<<mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>winstonp...@gmail.com<mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
<<mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>n...@builttoroam.com<mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>>
 wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
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-Original Message-
From: <mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@oz

RE: Silverlight 4

[Peter Blois]

Don't forget .NET 3.5 & SL3 support too :).

Back to triaging Blend 4 bugs, speccing Blend for Windows Phone features, 
planning Blend 5, SL5 & WPF vNext features. Time to relax after shipping? Bah!
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:24 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their 
shipping dependencies..heheh

- VS2010 compat
- .NET 4 compat
- SL4 compat
- WP7 compat
+ New Features

All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after 
SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words 
"poor bastards"... they appear to have come through in the end

Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I'll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I'd prefer.

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[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

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[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

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[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
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Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Perry Stathopoulos]

Hmmm you can look at it another way: use one word instead of a phrase. Using 
dogfood as one word to describe "the act of using software that you build" (my 
own definition). So in essence this made up word is used in place of a phrase.

What I find interesting is you did the same thing with verbising. You made up a 
word (so says the red squiggly line), and gave it a definition, so that you 
could re-use it again later in another sentence. You could have of course just 
used your definition both times. 

Aren't you guilty of a similar offense? ;-p

/Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment.



From: Greg Keogh 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:35 AM
To: 'ozSilverlight' 
Subject: RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)


It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used 
to dogfood a lot of software for the company

 

Aha! This is the third time I've seen that word used like that in the last week 
(and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg 
of "verbising" (turning nouns into verbs). It's an American disease that is 
spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it.

 

Soon we'll have 1984 newspeak like "After 5pm I'm going to glass some wine, 
chair myself and hobbyise some code". Or "I was walking the garden this morning 
and I lost my footage and fell over" (that's not quite verbising, but I'm 
hearing more of this sort of thing recently). 

 

Greg

 






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Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Perry Stathopoulos]

Hmmm you can look at it another way: use one word instead of a phrase. Using 
dogfood as one word to describe "the act of using software that you build" (my 
own definition). So in essence this made up word is used in place of a phrase.

What I find interesting is you did the same thing with verbising. You made up a 
word (so says the red squiggly line), and gave it a definition, so that you 
could re-use it again later in another sentence. You could have of course just 
used your definition both times. 

Aren't you guilty of a similar offense? ;-p

/Greg don't take offense, I just find it interesting enough to comment.



From: Greg Keogh 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:35 AM
To: 'ozSilverlight' 
Subject: RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)


It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used 
to dogfood a lot of software for the company

 

Aha! This is the third time I've seen that word used like that in the last week 
(and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg 
of "verbising" (turning nouns into verbs). It's an American disease that is 
spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it.

 

Soon we'll have 1984 newspeak like "After 5pm I'm going to glass some wine, 
chair myself and hobbyise some code". Or "I was walking the garden this morning 
and I lost my footage and fell over" (that's not quite verbising, but I'm 
hearing more of this sort of thing recently). 

 

Greg

 






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Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Scott Barnes]

Sorry they put the blue chip in deep when they hired me. I feel them reading my 
thoughts even now as that's why I wear a tinfoil hat

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:35 PM, "Greg Keogh" mailto:g...@mira.net>> 
wrote:

It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used 
to dogfood a lot of software for the company

Aha! This is the third time I’ve seen that word used like that in the last week 
(and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible iceberg 
of “verbising” (turning nouns into verbs). It’s an American disease that is 
spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it.

Soon we’ll have 1984 newspeak like “After 5pm I’m going to glass some wine, 
chair myself and hobbyise some code”. Or “I was walking the garden this morning 
and I lost my footage and fell over” (that’s not quite verbising, but I’m 
hearing more of this sort of thing recently).

Greg

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Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Sam Lai]

On 16 April 2010 16:49, Stephen Price  wrote:
> Language is a living breathing thing that evolves and changes. Embrace the
> change or go back to the original language before it began changing, banging
> on rocks and pointing. Of course one could also argue that what follows the
> phase of evolution and improvement is chaos, devolution and decay. (see l33t
> speek and sms'ing/twitter abbreviation and how it corrupts language).

Which makes me wonder - if the so-called 'swear words' were normalised
so they were no longer offensive, would the people in the world be
less easily offended and reactive, and hence the world would be a
better place? Although that is very 1984-ish...

Back on topic, does any one have a good way to manage Win7 VHDs?
Something that lets you create snapshots by creating differential VHDs
would be nice. Maybe some kind of bootable WinPE with some custom
GUI... I'd like something that boots quicker though...

> besides what has dogfood got to do with using your own code, unless you are
> writing software for pensioners?
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>
>> It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i
>> used to dogfood a lot of software for the company
>>
>>
>>
>> Aha! This is the third time I’ve seen that word used like that in the last
>> week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible
>> iceberg of “verbising” (turning nouns into verbs). It’s an American disease
>> that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Soon we’ll have 1984 newspeak like “After 5pm I’m going to glass some
>> wine, chair myself and hobbyise some code”. Or “I was walking the garden
>> this morning and I lost my footage and fell over” (that’s not quite
>> verbising, but I’m hearing more of this sort of thing recently).
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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Re: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Stephen Price]

Language is a living breathing thing that evolves and changes. Embrace the
change or go back to the original language before it began changing, banging
on rocks and pointing. Of course one could also argue that what follows the
phase of evolution and improvement is chaos, devolution and decay. (see l33t
speek and sms'ing/twitter abbreviation and how it corrupts language).

besides what has dogfood got to do with using your own code, unless you are
writing software for pensioners?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>   *It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as
> given i used to **dogfood** a lot of software for the company***
>
>
>
> Aha! This is the third time I’ve seen that word used like that in the last
> week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible
> iceberg of “verbising” (turning nouns into verbs). It’s an American disease
> that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it.
>
>
>
> Soon we’ll have 1984 newspeak like “After 5pm I’m going to glass some wine,
> chair myself and hobbyise some code”. Or “I was walking the garden this
> morning and I lost my footage and fell over” (that’s not quite verbising,
> but I’m hearing more of this sort of thing recently).
>
>
>
> Greg
>
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RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Greg Keogh]

It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i
used to dogfood a lot of software for the company

 

Aha! This is the third time I've seen that word used like that in the last
week (and I refuse to lookup what it means). This is the tip of the terrible
iceberg of "verbising" (turning nouns into verbs). It's an American disease
that is spreading, we must start an international drive to eradicate it.

 

Soon we'll have 1984 newspeak like "After 5pm I'm going to glass some wine,
chair myself and hobbyise some code". Or "I was walking the garden this
morning and I lost my footage and fell over" (that's not quite verbising,
but I'm hearing more of this sort of thing recently). 

 

Greg

 

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RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Scott Barnes]

It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used 
to dogfood a lot of software for the company it just paid to have VHD instances 
ready to be used at a moments notice and nuked with equal guilt free.. as i 
often would keep my primary Win7 build as the "clean don't install, pure build"

Then clone this build, use it as my variety of instance builds etc. I then 
would get into the habit of keeping documents, source code etc on D: which was 
my original Win7 instance..that way should i have to put an axe through a 
VS2010 RC build that's gone south, its not a case of "Did i back the music, 
sourcecode, artwork etc" up..answer is "Yes, as all use it"

I also am starting to use it now for customers that i visit onsite. In that if 
the customer needs me to configure my laptop to suite their environment i 
new-up an instance and call it "CustomerXYZ - Win7" and then archive it for 
when i next re-visit them etc ..that way its set to the exact settings before 
and after i leave and not impact my personal setups...

I did it via the old skool command prompt, but if you find a tool let me know. 
as i'd be keen to automate this more.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of 
carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:32 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

OMG.  I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7.  I still 
can’t pick my jaw up from the floor.

Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or 
is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)?

Carl.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes 

Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM
To: ozSilverlight 
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

then i'll create a VHD4
VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc)

Go Win7! :)


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight 
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Jordan Knight]

hehe I love those moments

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of 
carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 3:32 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

OMG.  I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7.  I still 
can’t pick my jaw up from the floor.

Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or 
is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)?

Carl.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes 

Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM
To: ozSilverlight 
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

then i'll create a VHD4
VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc)

Go Win7! :)


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight 
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

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[

VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

[Carl . Scarlett]

OMG.  I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7.  I
still can't pick my jaw up from the floor.

 

Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for
boot or is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)?

 

Carl.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Barnes 
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM
To: ozSilverlight 
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

 

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)

VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)

VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

 

then i'll create a VHD4

VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

 

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4,
Office etc) 

 

Go Win7! :)

 



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for
Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA
Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch
projects.

 

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... 

 

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

 

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

 

Jordan.



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all:
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-relea
sed.aspx

 

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is
what I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for
SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle.

 

John.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's
done :)



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all
the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today
h I know what I'd prefer.

 

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Development | +61 412 413 425
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author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston
Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

 

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of
all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the
RTM bits at once.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
wrote:

Yuppers

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
wrote:

So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
wrote:

Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not
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-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay
Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverl

Re: Silverlight 4

[Stephen Price]

I did a test conversion this morning and have all kinds of build errors
which I suspect are related to the t4toolbox code generation stuff not
working at all. I don't have time at the moment to mess about figuring it
out so have reverted it all back. I was hoping to just copy the solution
file and have it still work for the guys still using VS2008 but it doesn't
look like that will happen until we all convert over.

ah well, at least its here now. :)

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:

>   Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.
>
> VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
> VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
> VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC
>
> then i'll create a VHD4
> VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW
>
> I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office
> etc)
>
> Go Win7! :)
>
>  --
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight [
> jordan.kni...@readify.net]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
>
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
>
> A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure
> with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services
> can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.
>
> Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...
>
> Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?
>
> Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)
>
> Jordan.
>  --
>  *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [
> j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
> *To:* 'ozSilverlight'
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
>   Great post from Tim explaining it all:
> http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx
>
>
>
> Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what
> I’ll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the
> only problematic piece of the puzzle.
>
>
>
> John.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Knight
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
>
>
> + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's
> done :)
>   ------
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [
> n...@builttoroam.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight 4
>
> Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all
> the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I
> know what I’d prefer.
>
>
>
> *Nick Randolph** *| *Built To Roam* | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
> Development | +61 412 413 425
> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
> intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
> emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's
> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Winston Pang
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* Re: Silverlight 4
>
>
>
> Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all
> these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM
> bits at once.
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight  wrote:
>
> Yuppers
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
> wrote:
>
> So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
> wrote:
>
> Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
> Silverlight 4 itself!
>
> Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
> Development | +61 412 413 425
> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
> intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
&

RE: Silverlight 4

[Scott Barnes]

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

then i'll create a VHD4
VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc)

Go Win7! :)


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight 
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4


A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

RE: Silverlight 4

[Scott Barnes]

Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their 
shipping dependencies..heheh

- VS2010 compat
- .NET 4 compat
- SL4 compat
- WP7 compat
+ New Features

All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after 
SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words 
"poor bastards"... they appear to have come through in the end

Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.au<mailto:r...@perenni.com.au>]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever 

RE: Silverlight 4

[Jordan Knight]

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.au<mailto:r...@perenni.com.au>]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy p

RE: Silverlight 4

[John OBrien]

Great post from Tim explaining it all:
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.
aspx

 

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what
I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the
only problematic piece of the puzzle.

 

John.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's
done :)

  _  

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I
know what I'd prefer.

 

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's
own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

 

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM
bits at once.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight  wrote:

Yuppers

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
wrote:

So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
wrote:

Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's
own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.



-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross
[r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
 wrote:
> Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
> UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
> probably make it look a bit funny.
>
> JAK
> 
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
> [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
> [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
> To: 'ozSilverlight'
> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>
> We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls
are
> not within the update

RE: Silverlight 4

[Jordan Knight]

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
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not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.au<mailto:r...@perenni.com.au>]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net>> wrote:
> Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
> UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
> probably make it look a bit funny.
>
> JAK
> 
> From: 
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
> [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
>  On Behalf Of John OBrien
> [j...@soulsolutions.com.au<mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au>]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
> To: 'ozSilverlight'
> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight 

RE: Silverlight 4

[Nick Randolph]

Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I'd prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
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not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
mailto:jak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
mailto:n...@builttoroam.com>> wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
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not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.au<mailto:r...@perenni.com.au>]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net>> wrote:
> Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
> UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
> probably make it look a bit funny.
>
> JAK
> 
> From: 
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>
> [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com<mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com>]
>  On Behalf Of John OBrien
> [j...@soulsolutions.com.au<mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au>]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
> To: 'ozSilverlight'
> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>
> We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are
> not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
>
> The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET<http://ASP.NET> control was to 
> have the update
> panel just contain some divs used for communication while t

Re: Silverlight 4

[Winston Pang]

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM
bits at once.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight  wrote:

> Yuppers
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang wrote:
>
>> So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph wrote:
>>
>>> Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
>>> Silverlight 4 itself!
>>>
>>> Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
>>> Development | +61 412 413 425
>>> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not
>>> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
>>> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
>>> emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's
>>> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
>>> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
>>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
>>> To: ozSilverlight
>>> Subject: Silverlight 4
>>>
>>> Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vinay
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
>>> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
>>> To: ozSilverlight
>>> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>>>
>>> Hey Ross,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
>>> big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jordan.
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
>>> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [
>>> r...@perenni.com.au]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
>>> To: ozSilverlight
>>> Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>>>
>>> If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.
>>>
>>> You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
>>> the legacy permits.
>>>
>>> I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
>>> one with a html button.
>>>
>>> On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
>>> on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
>>> the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
>>> didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
>>> that didn't change.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that
>>> the
>>> > UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
>>> > probably make it look a bit funny.
>>> >
>>> > JAK
>>> > 
>>> > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
>>> > [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
>>> > [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
>>> > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
>>> > To: 'ozSilverlight'
>>> > Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>>> >
>>> > We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL
>>> controls are
>>> > not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
>>> >
>>> > The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the
>>> update
>>> > panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
>>> > control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control,
>>> the
>>> > developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > John.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
>>> > [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
>>> Knight
>>> > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
>>> > To: ozSilverlight
>>> > Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hey guys,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a
>>> series of
>>> > SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to
>>> reload
>>> > when the ajax controls refresh.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be
>>> moved no
>>> > problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure
>>> its the
>>> > browser doing it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
>>> > re-initialising?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cheers!
>>> >
>>> > Jordan.
>>> >
>>> > ___
>>> > ozsilverlight mailing list
>>> > ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
>>> > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
>>> >
>>> >
>>> __

Re: Silverlight 4

[Jordan Knight]

Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang wrote:

> So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph wrote:
>
>> Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
>> Silverlight 4 itself!
>>
>> Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
>> Development | +61 412 413 425
>> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not
>> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
>> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
>> emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's
>> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
>> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
>> To: ozSilverlight
>> Subject: Silverlight 4
>>
>> Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.
>>
>>
>> Vinay
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
>> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
>> To: ozSilverlight
>> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>>
>> Hey Ross,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
>> big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jordan.
>>
>> 
>> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
>> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [
>> r...@perenni.com.au]
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
>> To: ozSilverlight
>> Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>>
>> If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.
>>
>> You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
>> the legacy permits.
>>
>> I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
>> one with a html button.
>>
>> On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
>> on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
>> the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
>> didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
>> that didn't change.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
>>  wrote:
>> > Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that
>> the
>> > UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
>> > probably make it look a bit funny.
>> >
>> > JAK
>> > 
>> > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
>> > [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
>> > [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
>> > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
>> > To: 'ozSilverlight'
>> > Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>> >
>> > We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls
>> are
>> > not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
>> >
>> > The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the
>> update
>> > panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
>> > control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control,
>> the
>> > developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
>> > [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
>> Knight
>> > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
>> > To: ozSilverlight
>> > Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey guys,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a
>> series of
>> > SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload
>> > when the ajax controls refresh.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be
>> moved no
>> > problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its
>> the
>> > browser doing it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
>> > re-initialising?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> > Jordan.
>> >
>> > ___
>> > ozsilverlight mailing list
>> > ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
>> > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
>> >
>> >
>> ___
>> ozsilverlight mailing list
>> ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
>> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
>> ___
>> ozsilverlight mailing list
>> ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
>> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
>>
>> National Australia Bank Ltd -

Re: Silverlight 4

[Winston Pang]

So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph wrote:

> Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
> Silverlight 4 itself!
>
> Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
> Development | +61 412 413 425
> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
> intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
> emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's
> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
> To: ozSilverlight
> Subject: Silverlight 4
>
> Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.
>
>
> Vinay
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
> To: ozSilverlight
> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>
> Hey Ross,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
> big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jordan.
>
> 
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [
> r...@perenni.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
> To: ozSilverlight
> Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>
> If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.
>
> You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
> the legacy permits.
>
> I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
> one with a html button.
>
> On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
> on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
> the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
> didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
> that didn't change.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
>  wrote:
> > Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that
> the
> > UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
> > probably make it look a bit funny.
> >
> > JAK
> > 
> > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
> > [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
> > [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
> > To: 'ozSilverlight'
> > Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
> >
> > We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls
> are
> > not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
> >
> > The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the
> update
> > panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
> > control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control,
> the
> > developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
> >
> >
> >
> > John.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
> > [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
> Knight
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
> > To: ozSilverlight
> > Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series
> of
> > SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload
> > when the ajax controls refresh.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved
> no
> > problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its
> the
> > browser doing it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
> > re-initialising?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Jordan.
> >
> > ___
> > ozsilverlight mailing list
> > ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
> >
> >
> ___
> ozsilverlight mailing list
> ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
> ___
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RE: Silverlight 4

[Nick Randolph]

Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
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-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross 
[r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
 wrote:
> Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
> UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
> probably make it look a bit funny.
>
> JAK
> 
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
> [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
> [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
> To: 'ozSilverlight'
> Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>
> We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are
> not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
>
> The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update
> panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
> control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the
> developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
>
>
>
> John.
>
>
>
> From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
> [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
> To: ozSilverlight
> Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
>
>
>
> Hey guys,
>
>
>
> I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of
> SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload
> when the ajax controls refresh.
>
>
>
> I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no
> problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the
> browser doing it.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
> re-initialising?
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jordan.
>
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