Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor?
I heard about GoldWave. What can you say about it? - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor? The free audio converter I use is Switch from http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html. It comes with a trial period after which some of the features are disabled. The sound conversions I do, such as WMV to MP3 for example, still work in the free version even after the trial period. I'm not sure what conversion you're looking for, but you could check out the web site and the help pages to find out what file conversions are supported. The only free sound editor I know is Audacity from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/. I don't use it myself, so I can't say any more about it, other than it's come up on blind related links, so I'm assuming it's at least somewhat accessible. Sunday Ugerdodge wrote: Wazzup, I'm Sunday, Can you tell me the free audio and video converter and editor softwares out there? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor?
Hi, Sunday Ugerdodge wrote: My main purpose here to find the best audio converter and editor, video converter and editor for my business on my mind. You might want to check out VideoReDo TVSuite. You can download a trial version from www.videoredo.com. Jani Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!
Wonder if I dare wade into this. obviously [EMAIL PROTECTED] about to, first with comments on scripting and pricing, second with general comments about ITunes. Surely what Brian and others charge for their efforts must reflect some notion of the work done and time taken. Above that, it's what the market will stand, and maybe they do know there market, or I'd hope so. There are probably many products where the price doesn't much reflect effort put into their production, but maybe there marketing? I believe much of Apples ITunes and IPod idea had been thought up before and maybe even patented, but nonetheless it was Apple that combined all this into a product and a service who's success undoubtedly has more to do with design and branding which, I don't hold a very high regard for, but seems to be the way the world works. Maybe Brian and other - nameless people around the JFW community market themselves as 'brands' too? So you pays your money and takes your choice. Still other scripting options are now with us and there are signs that the hitherto rather cliquey JFW scripting community is beginning to open up with training on option and an independent cetral source for scripts. Competition is no bad thing! More on topic here, Personally I'm not into ITunes at all and I've steered clear of protected formats and DRM, meaning I stick with CDS and ripping those for personal use only and find myself content to stick with simpler options such as the Zen Players; for my purposes much better value! Some folks are easily satisfied! Until recently there was a good reason for not being besotted with Apple's entisements: lack of accessability. Even now that one's been substantially solved I still find myself not being drawn into owning what seems like a fashion accessory as much as a good player, which is what the IPods seem to be to me. The use of AAC is of course good, but if I could use that format for storing books on another device then I'd likely go for that. Particularly MP4b which if I know what I'm on about does seem to offer navigation within files rather than a more complicated structure as with DAISY. Then I;I'm straying OT here. Cheers, Ray. - Original Message - From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I am not a big jaws user, though I own version nine. But didn't Jim Snowbarger and others who write scripts use to charge somewhere around $25 or so for their scripts? I could see paying 25 or $30. That makes sense to me, but paying as much as I paid for Norton ghost 12, which is clearly a much more complex program just seems wrong to me. Still, if he can get $70 for his scripts, more power to him. I have always been impressed with the guy. I just wish he'd rethink his price structure. Regarding itunes being free, I suppose that one could assume that that was figured into the price of the Ipod, somehow, since you need itunes to even use the thing. But a 4gb ipod is only $100. That should make itunes pretty cheap if you figure it as part of the package. Still, it is a much more complicated program than is the JTunes script or the 40 dollar antivirus program I use. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!
I think the comparison of the J-tunes scripts and something like Norton Ghost or antivirus products is invalid. Consider the market for something like an antivirus program. It is definitely in the millions for the original product and the yearly subscriptions. I don't know anything about Brian's business but if he has sold more than a thousand or so copies of his scripts I would be surprised. Prices are determined by the work involved in producing a product but also the size of the market. I remember a conversation I had with Ted Hinter many years ago when Windows 3.1 came out. He was saying that for $79.00 which is what it cost then, you got a lot of software. This was when JAWS was $795.00. There have probably been maybe 250,000 copies of JAWS sold since the beginning and I remember when Windows 95 arrived I read an article that stated that Microsoft was shipping something like 38 million copies per week. That is the difference of scale between these markets. The bottom line is that no one who feels Brian is charging too much will likely change their mind and that's surely their right. I do think it is somewhat presumptuous to assume that he is simply trying to rip off the blind or agencies serving the blind because you think the price is too high. All my dealings with him have been professional and helpful. He provided me with answers and information even before I ever spent any money. So I say as I did before. Try the scripts demo and see if you like them. If they give you a value you think is worth it then buy them. If not don't. Karl Karl Smith Access Technology Specialist Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax:866-824-7885 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is one dumb thing after anotherLove is two dumb things after each other. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:51 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I am not a big jaws user, though I own version nine. But didn't Jim Snowbarger and others who write scripts use to charge somewhere around $25 or so for their scripts? I could see paying 25 or $30. That makes sense to me, but paying as much as I paid for Norton ghost 12, which is clearly a much more complex program just seems wrong to me. Still, if he can get $70 for his scripts, more power to him. I have always been impressed with the guy. I just wish he'd rethink his price structure. Regarding itunes being free, I suppose that one could assume that that was figured into the price of the Ipod, somehow, since you need itunes to even use the thing. But a 4gb ipod is only $100. That should make itunes pretty cheap if you figure it as part of the package. Still, it is a much more complicated program than is the JTunes script or the 40 dollar antivirus program I use. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I have a fundamental problem with paying more for a script for a program than the program itself, and in this case, the program itself is free! I can understand, though, why the scripts are as pricy as they are. It's not just one single script with a handful of quick-and-dirty functions--not by a long shot--but paying more for the script than most low-end MP3 players, well, I'd have to think about that long and hard, and I hope TT Consultancy might do the same. On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:10:51 -0700, you wrote: Yes. 70 does seem a bit excessive. I could see 20 or maybe even 30, but in my opinion, 30 is stretching it. I haven't even paid $70 for a backup program like ghost or a virus program, but 70 for a script seems high in my opinion. For a full fledged program, perhaps, but not for a script. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of constantine (on laptop) Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! Well, that's my point. Sure. Someones worked really hard to create this. But that's like saying hey there, man. Pay 70 dollars and I'll give you a chocolate bar so I can eat- that is, in my view, too expensive when there is rockbox out there, more accessible itunes out there, etc. Then again that's just me. I'd pay 20 dollars for them- but 70? No way. contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008
Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!
Wonder if I dare wade into this. obviously [EMAIL PROTECTED] about to, first with comments on scripting and pricing, second with general comments about ITunes. Surely what Brian and others charge for their efforts must reflect some notion of the work done and time taken. Above that, it's what the market will stand, and maybe they do know there market, or I'd hope so. There are probably many products where the price doesn't much reflect effort put into their production, but maybe there marketing? I believe much of Apples ITunes and IPod idea had been thought up before and maybe even patented, but nonetheless it was Apple that combined all this into a product and a service who's success undoubtedly has more to do with design and branding which, I don't hold a very high regard for, but seems to be the way the world works. Maybe Brian and other - nameless people around the JFW community market themselves as 'brands' too? So you pays your money and takes your choice. Still other scripting options are now with us and there are signs that the hitherto rather cliquey JFW scripting community is beginning to open up with training on option and an independent cetral source for scripts. Competition is no bad thing! More on topic here, Personally I'm not into ITunes at all and I've steered clear of protected formats and DRM, meaning I stick with CDS and ripping those for personal use only and find myself content to stick with simpler options such as the Zen Players; for my purposes much better value! Some folks are easily satisfied! Until recently there was a good reason for not being besotted with Apple's entisements: lack of accessability. Even now that one's been substantially solved I still find myself not being drawn into owning what seems like a fashion accessory as much as a good player, which is what the IPods seem to be to me. The use of AAC is of course good, but if I could use that format for storing books on another device then I'd likely go for that. Particularly MP4b which if I know what I'm on about does seem to offer navigation within files rather than a more complicated structure as with DAISY. Then I;I'm straying OT here. Cheers, Ray. - Original Message - From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I am not a big jaws user, though I own version nine. But didn't Jim Snowbarger and others who write scripts use to charge somewhere around $25 or so for their scripts? I could see paying 25 or $30. That makes sense to me, but paying as much as I paid for Norton ghost 12, which is clearly a much more complex program just seems wrong to me. Still, if he can get $70 for his scripts, more power to him. I have always been impressed with the guy. I just wish he'd rethink his price structure. Regarding itunes being free, I suppose that one could assume that that was figured into the price of the Ipod, somehow, since you need itunes to even use the thing. But a 4gb ipod is only $100. That should make itunes pretty cheap if you figure it as part of the package. Still, it is a much more complicated program than is the JTunes script or the 40 dollar antivirus program I use. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor?
Okay, for me it's nice to mention all softwares whether they are freeware, shareware or commercial. Now, how about video editor and converter? Just mention everything. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:14 AM Subject: Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor? I've used it before. I found it easy to use and accessible. It isn't free, which is why I didn't mention it in my first note, but it is cheaper than Soundforge, which I've never used. I'ts my understanding that both Goldwave and Soundforged are acessible. Sunday Ugerdodge wrote: I heard about GoldWave. What can you say about it? - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor? The free audio converter I use is Switch from http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html. It comes with a trial period after which some of the features are disabled. The sound conversions I do, such as WMV to MP3 for example, still work in the free version even after the trial period. I'm not sure what conversion you're looking for, but you could check out the web site and the help pages to find out what file conversions are supported. The only free sound editor I know is Audacity from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/. I don't use it myself, so I can't say any more about it, other than it's come up on blind related links, so I'm assuming it's at least somewhat accessible. Sunday Ugerdodge wrote: Wazzup, I'm Sunday, Can you tell me the free audio and video converter and editor softwares out there? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scripts for Skype
Sorry, Steve, you nailed me good! I'm still not used to there being two players in the scripting arena now. Looks like I'll have to go for two sets of classes! grin. I was actually looking for JAWS scripts, and I'll save your message for future reference. Thanks again. On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:20:10 +1100, you wrote: Hi Steve, Well that's a hard question to answer because you forgot to say what screen reader you want these scripts to be used with (smile). Window-Eyes scripts for Skype can be found at www.gwmicro.com/sc. JAWS scripts for Skype can be found at http://users.visi.com/~dgl/skype. Now both of the popular screen readers support scripts it is probably a good idea to specify the screen reader when people ask about scripts. I hope this helps. Regards Steve. From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org I just Googled for Skype scripts and found nowhere to download ones for Version 3, only news on how the scripts for Version 4 Beta aren't working so well. Where, please are scripts for Skype 3.8 to be gotten? Regards Steve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you rip a karoke DVD
The CDG's are just the lyrics and instructions as to where and how to display them. The audio can be ripped as anything you like, then combined with the CDG and played in such karaoke players as the Python PyKaraoke player, which is not all that speech-accessible. On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:58:06 +0200, you wrote: Hi list, Is the music incorporated in the cdg files on a Karoke dvd, or is it plane dvd audio? In any case, what is the best way to rip the music from such dvd disks? Thanks in advance. Best regards Brian Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor?
Check out this free converter: http://www.zamzar.com/ Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor? I've used it before. I found it easy to use and accessible. It isn't free, which is why I didn't mention it in my first note, but it is cheaper than Soundforge, which I've never used. I'ts my understanding that both Goldwave and Soundforged are acessible. Sunday Ugerdodge wrote: I heard about GoldWave. What can you say about it? - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Free Audio And Video Converter And Editor? The free audio converter I use is Switch from http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html. It comes with a trial period after which some of the features are disabled. The sound conversions I do, such as WMV to MP3 for example, still work in the free version even after the trial period. I'm not sure what conversion you're looking for, but you could check out the web site and the help pages to find out what file conversions are supported. The only free sound editor I know is Audacity from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/. I don't use it myself, so I can't say any more about it, other than it's come up on blind related links, so I'm assuming it's at least somewhat accessible. Sunday Ugerdodge wrote: Wazzup, I'm Sunday, Can you tell me the free audio and video converter and editor softwares out there? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scripts for Skype
Hi friend you cann have scripts for skype 3.8. I have the scripts with me give me your msn or skype so I can send you email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: shankar.a Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released!
Wonder if I dare wade into this. obviously [EMAIL PROTECTED] about to, first with comments on scripting and pricing, second with general comments about ITunes. Surely what Brian and others charge for their efforts must reflect some notion of the work done and time taken. Above that, it's what the market will stand, and maybe they do know there market, or I'd hope so. There are probably many products where the price doesn't much reflect effort put into their production, but maybe there marketing? I believe much of Apples ITunes and IPod idea had been thought up before and maybe even patented, but nonetheless it was Apple that combined all this into a product and a service who's success undoubtedly has more to do with design and branding which, I don't hold a very high regard for, but seems to be the way the world works. Maybe Brian and other - nameless people around the JFW community market themselves as 'brands' too? So you pays your money and takes your choice. Still other scripting options are now with us and there are signs that the hitherto rather cliquey JFW scripting community is beginning to open up with training on option and an independent cetral source for scripts. Competition is no bad thing! More on topic here, Personally I'm not into ITunes at all and I've steered clear of protected formats and DRM, meaning I stick with CDS and ripping those for personal use only and find myself content to stick with simpler options such as the Zen Players; for my purposes much better value! Some folks are easily satisfied! Until recently there was a good reason for not being besotted with Apple's entisements: lack of accessability. Even now that one's been substantially solved I still find myself not being drawn into owning what seems like a fashion accessory as much as a good player, which is what the IPods seem to be to me. The use of AAC is of course good, but if I could use that format for storing books on another device then I'd likely go for that. Particularly MP4b which if I know what I'm on about does seem to offer navigation within files rather than a more complicated structure as with DAISY. Then I;I'm straying OT here. Cheers, Ray. - Original Message - From: Paul Henrichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! I am not a big jaws user, though I own version nine. But didn't Jim Snowbarger and others who write scripts use to charge somewhere around $25 or so for their scripts? I could see paying 25 or $30. That makes sense to me, but paying as much as I paid for Norton ghost 12, which is clearly a much more complex program just seems wrong to me. Still, if he can get $70 for his scripts, more power to him. I have always been impressed with the guy. I just wish he'd rethink his price structure. Regarding itunes being free, I suppose that one could assume that that was figured into the price of the Ipod, somehow, since you need itunes to even use the thing. But a 4gb ipod is only $100. That should make itunes pretty cheap if you figure it as part of the package. Still, it is a much more complicated program than is the JTunes script or the 40 dollar antivirus program I use. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do you rip a karoke DVD
Hi list, Is the music incorporated in the cdg files on a Karoke dvd, or is it plane dvd audio? In any case, what is the best way to rip the music from such dvd disks? Thanks in advance. Best regards Brian Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you rip a karoke DVD
hi, so you say the audio probably is dvd audio? Is so, what is then the best way of ripping it? is there anything free? Brian - Original Message - From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: How do you rip a karoke DVD The CDG's are just the lyrics and instructions as to where and how to display them. The audio can be ripped as anything you like, then combined with the CDG and played in such karaoke players as the Python PyKaraoke player, which is not all that speech-accessible. On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:58:06 +0200, you wrote: Hi list, Is the music incorporated in the cdg files on a Karoke dvd, or is it plane dvd audio? In any case, what is the best way to rip the music from such dvd disks? Thanks in advance. Best regards Brian Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
