Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
I guess that choice is good! - Original Message - From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER John, Explain why windows meedia player should be, "discontinued". I have never had a problem with the program and like it a lot, same with real player and winamp (I have all 3). Tyler - Original Message - From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Hi John! I think that Winamp is the best! - Original Message - From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list." Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used. On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've > stated before, I've heard some really excellent > real quality streaming which beats the pants off > anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. > > At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the > >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that > >facility. > >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an > >accessibility issue). > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no > >problems with Real Player at all. > > > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of > > >making > > >things accessible for us! > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand > for > > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our > software.' > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > > >point of view but its also important if you say > > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > > >connected to another sound device which it is in > > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > > >Ian, > > > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained > > > >about > > > >this > > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why > this > > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using > adaptive > > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no > > > >indication > of > > > >
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
John, Explain why windows meedia player should be, "discontinued". I have never had a problem with the program and like it a lot, same with real player and winamp (I have all 3). Tyler - Original Message - From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Hi John! I think that Winamp is the best! - Original Message - From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list." Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used. On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've > stated before, I've heard some really excellent > real quality streaming which beats the pants off > anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. > > At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the > >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that > >facility. > >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an > >accessibility issue). > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no > >problems with Real Player at all. > > > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of > > >making > > >things accessible for us! > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand > for > > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our > software.' > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > > >point of view but its also important if you say > > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > > >connected to another sound device which it is in > > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > > >Ian, > > > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained > > > >about > > > >this > > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why > this > > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using > adaptive > > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no > > > >indication > of > > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > > > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor > of > > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge oth
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Hi John! I think that Winamp is the best! - Original Message - From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list." Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used. On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've > stated before, I've heard some really excellent > real quality streaming which beats the pants off > anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. > > At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the > >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that > >facility. > >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an > >accessibility issue). > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no > >problems with Real Player at all. > > > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of > > >making > > >things accessible for us! > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand > for > > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our > software.' > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > > >point of view but its also important if you say > > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > > >connected to another sound device which it is in > > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > > >Ian, > > > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained > > > >about > > > >this > > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why > this > > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using > adaptive > > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no > > > >indication > of > > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > > > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor > of > > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > > > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > > > >Dana > > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Skype: dsleslie > > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > > >You
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Its not a music station. At 16:07 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: >Ian, > >I listened to the stream from Sydney that you touted as an example of really >high quality streaming. Nothing wrong with it, at all, but nothing special, >either, as far as I could tell. Of course, when I listened, it was an all >talk show; I didn't hear any music web casting. > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:35 PM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've >stated before, I've heard some really excellent >real quality streaming which beats the pants off >anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. > >At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the > >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility. > >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an > >accessibility issue). > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no > >problems with Real Player at all. > > > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making > > >things accessible for us! > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand > > >for > > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our > > >software.' > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > > >point of view but its also important if you say > > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > > >connected to another sound device which it is in > > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > > >Ian, > > > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about > > > >this > > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why > > > >this > > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using > > > >adaptive > > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication > > > >of > > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > > > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favo
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Ian, I listened to the stream from Sydney that you touted as an example of really high quality streaming. Nothing wrong with it, at all, but nothing special, either, as far as I could tell. Of course, when I listened, it was an all talk show; I didn't hear any music web casting. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've stated before, I've heard some really excellent real quality streaming which beats the pants off anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility. >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an >accessibility issue). > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no >problems with Real Player at all. > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making > >things accessible for us! > >----- Original Message - > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand > >for > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our > >software.' > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > >point of view but its also important if you say > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > >connected to another sound device which it is in > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > >Ian, > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about > > >this > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why > > >this > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using > > >adaptive > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication > > >of > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor > > >of > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >Fr
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used. On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've > stated before, I've heard some really excellent > real quality streaming which beats the pants off > anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. > > At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the > >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility. > >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an > >accessibility issue). > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no > >problems with Real Player at all. > > > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making > > >things accessible for us! > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand > for > > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our > software.' > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > > >point of view but its also important if you say > > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > > >connected to another sound device which it is in > > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > > >Ian, > > > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about > > > >this > > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why > this > > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using > adaptive > > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication > of > > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > > > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor > of > > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > > > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > > > >Dana > > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Skype: dsleslie > > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > > >- Original Message - > > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM > > > >
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've stated before, I've heard some really excellent real quality streaming which beats the pants off anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer. At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said: >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility. >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an >accessibility issue). > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no >problems with Real Player at all. > >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: > >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making > >things accessible for us! > >- Original Message - > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons > >point of view but its also important if you say > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system > >connected to another sound device which it is in > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > > > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > > >Ian, > > > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about > > >this > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > > > >Dana > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Skype: dsleslie > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > > >- Original Message - > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM > > >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > > > find such a thing. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > > > in the house." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility. But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an accessibility issue). Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no problems with Real Player at all. At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making >things accessible for us! >- Original Message - >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >----- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons >point of view but its also important if you say >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system >connected to another sound device which it is in >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Ian, > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about > >this > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM > >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > > find such a thing. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > > in the house." > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists > > > we > > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >http://www.pc-audio.org > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To &
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no problems with Real Player at all. At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said: >Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making >things accessible for us! >- Original Message - >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons >point of view but its also important if you say >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system >connected to another sound device which it is in >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Ian, > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM > >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > > find such a thing. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > > in the house." > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >http://www.pc-audio.org > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To > >see what other lists we offer, visit us on the > >web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.eset.com > >"Most accidents happen within the home so please >don't drive your car in the house." > > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we >offer, visit us on the we
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Hi Tyler! It's too bad that Real takes this attitude. I use Windows Media and Win-Amp. It beats the heck out of the other players! I mean Winamp! - Original Message - From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Yes. For some reason, I had been having trouble using real player. It seems that if you mention that your visually impaired/blind (which I had experemented with), they seem to ignore you. On the other hand, when I complained without saying I was blind, they responded immidiately and, although a little better support was found, they're atitude didn't change much. I stil prefer winamp or windows meedia player, simply because for one thing, real players volume is the same as jaws (or window-eyes) which tells me I need a new sound card, and it seems that if you exit (or minimize it) it gives no info what so ever about where you are. Tyler - Original Message - From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:00 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well its not only important from a blind persons point of view but its also important if you say wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system connected to another sound device which it is in my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: >Ian, > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > Hello! > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > find such a thing. > > > > Thanks > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > in the house." > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To >see what other lists we offer, visit us on the >web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List He
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Hi Dana! Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making things accessible for us! - Original Message - From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well its not only important from a blind persons point of view but its also important if you say wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system connected to another sound device which it is in my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: >Ian, > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > Hello! > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > find such a thing. > > > > Thanks > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > in the house." > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To >see what other lists we offer, visit us on the >web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Yes, but not only is it a pain in the ass to have to do that every time you want to switch players, it can also upset configurations you made for other programs that use the sound card. - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Of course, the other way around the problem I've just realised is to change your default sound device from the Windows control panel and then change it back again when you've finished. At 03:54 15/12/2005 +1100, Tyler Wood said: >Yes. For some reason, I had been having trouble using real player. It seems >that if you mention that your visually impaired/blind (which I had >experemented with), they seem to ignore you. On the other hand, when I >complained without saying I was blind, they responded immidiately and, >although a little better support was found, they're atitude didn't change >much. I stil prefer winamp or windows meedia player, simply because for one >thing, real players volume is the same as jaws (or window-eyes) which tells >me I need a new sound card, and it seems that if you exit (or minimize it) >it gives no info what so ever about where you are. > >Tyler >- Original Message - >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:00 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons >point of view but its also important if you say >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system >connected to another sound device which it is in >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Ian, > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about > >this > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM > >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > > find such a thing. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > > in the house." > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists > > > we > > > offer, visit us on th
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Of course, the other way around the problem I've just realised is to change your default sound device from the Windows control panel and then change it back again when you've finished. At 03:54 15/12/2005 +1100, Tyler Wood said: >Yes. For some reason, I had been having trouble using real player. It seems >that if you mention that your visually impaired/blind (which I had >experemented with), they seem to ignore you. On the other hand, when I >complained without saying I was blind, they responded immidiately and, >although a little better support was found, they're atitude didn't change >much. I stil prefer winamp or windows meedia player, simply because for one >thing, real players volume is the same as jaws (or window-eyes) which tells >me I need a new sound card, and it seems that if you exit (or minimize it) >it gives no info what so ever about where you are. > >Tyler >- Original Message - >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:00 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >----- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > >Well its not only important from a blind persons >point of view but its also important if you say >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system >connected to another sound device which it is in >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: > >Ian, > > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > > > > >Blessed Be, > > > >Dana > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Skype: dsleslie > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > >- Original Message - > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM > >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > > find such a thing. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > > in the house." > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >http://www.pc-audio.org > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To > >see what other lists we offer, vis
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Yes. For some reason, I had been having trouble using real player. It seems that if you mention that your visually impaired/blind (which I had experemented with), they seem to ignore you. On the other hand, when I complained without saying I was blind, they responded immidiately and, although a little better support was found, they're atitude didn't change much. I stil prefer winamp or windows meedia player, simply because for one thing, real players volume is the same as jaws (or window-eyes) which tells me I need a new sound card, and it seems that if you exit (or minimize it) it gives no info what so ever about where you are. Tyler - Original Message - From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:00 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well its not only important from a blind persons point of view but its also important if you say wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system connected to another sound device which it is in my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: >Ian, > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >----- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > Hello! > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > find such a thing. > > > > Thanks > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > in the house." > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To >see what other lists we offer, visit us on the >web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... h
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Shame realy as their are some very very nice sounding Real streams out there. To experience fully what I mean and you'll only appreciate this if you have a broad-band connection, visit http://www.2gb.com.au have a listen to the stream there with Real Audio, I'm yet to hear anything like it. At 18:20 14/12/2005 +1100, Jerry Richer said: > Yes, Real Player is miserable and even National Public Radio has come >to that conclusion. >Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com >! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml >! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, >www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml >! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, >www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml >! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, >www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml >! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 >outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml >! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, >www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml >! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, >etc. >We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: >www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml > >Reach BA Software in the United States at: >Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: >[EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other >lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Do you mean NPR no longer uses RealAudio clips on their web site; or what? Aside from the inability to select its output device, I have no problem with RealPlayer. It's the corporation, not the product, that sucks. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > Yes, Real Player is miserable and even National Public Radio has come > to that conclusion. > Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com > ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml > ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, > www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml > ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional > $575.00, > www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml > ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, > www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml > ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 > outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml > ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the > USA, > www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml > ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, > etc. > We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency > at: > www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml > > Reach BA Software in the United States at: > Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.' Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER Well its not only important from a blind persons point of view but its also important if you say wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system connected to another sound device which it is in my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: >Ian, > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message ----- >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > Hello! > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > find such a thing. > > > > Thanks > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > in the house." > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To >see what other lists we offer, visit us on the >web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Well its not only important from a blind persons point of view but its also important if you say wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system connected to another sound device which it is in my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc. At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said: >Ian, > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. > > >Blessed Be, > >Dana >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: dsleslie >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE >Your Source for Discounted Ideas >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ >- Original Message - >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > > > > Hello! > > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > > find such a thing. > > > > Thanks > > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > > in the house." > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To >see what other lists we offer, visit us on the >web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >__ NOD32 1.1320 (20051212) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Ian, Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this (quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion. For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER > Hello! > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to > find such a thing. > > Thanks > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car > in the house." > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
Hello! Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to find such a thing. Thanks "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car in the house." ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
