[PD] [PdCon16]

[Jaime Oliver]

Hello everyone, 

We have the latest draft of the PdCon program here:
http://www.nyu-waverlylabs.org/pdcon16/program/ 


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[PD] [pdcon_kudos] An opportunity to celebrate the Pd community from your own personal experience

[Joe Deken]

"Serving Suggestions" only, at first:

--
When did you first learn about Pd? (approximate date is OK)

When did you first begin to learn patching with Pd?

Is there a *simple way* to tell us all what the influence of Pd has been
on your work, your approach to what you do?

Do you have any specific personal experience of **the Pd-community** being
wonderful
for you?  (Beyond some trite and general fact such as "msp is wonderful... ")

What's your line? Do you think of yourself a professional artist,
musician, professor or ...?
--

I realize that you may be Inspired by the above questions (or not) --  In
any case I cordially invite you to  send a "kudos" message ASAP to this
special address below:

pdcon_ku...@newblankets.org

Re: "collecting/assembling"  --
I do not believe in censorship.  I do believe in neglecting to forward any
communication which is not peaceful and friendly, encouraging and
inspiring.  Inter alia of your freedoms .. of course you may choose to
post your "kudos message" to Pd-list immediately or you may choose not to
post it to Pd-list, ad lib.

The messages that I assemble will be "greeting cards" of some sort at
PdCon16; maybe these
cards simply scattered about on balloons or maybe collected as a little
(INFORMAL) keepsake booklet, for those who would dig it. Time will tell.





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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Richie Cyngler]

I tried to build it on RPi 2 (also noob here - my first build ever). I
think I installed all the required build tools. It almost worked on the
third try but still wouldn't launch. I'd love to hear how your attempt goes
Alexandre.


On Thursday, 3 November 2016, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> Does the CHIP have that same architecture? (armv7) Worth a try.
>>
>
> yes it does :)  armv7!
>
>
>> The standard auto tools method
>>
>
> cool
>
>
>

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Re: [PD] Purr Data Beta 3

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

> howdy, do you know if one (and which one) of these can be installed on 
> C.H.I.P.?


I added an rpi binary earlier 
today:https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/blob/master/purr-data-armv7l-raspbian-beta3.deb
What does `uname -a` show?
-Jonathan

2016-11-01 14:39 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list :

Purr Data Beta 3!

This is the GUI port of Pd-l2ork from tcl/tk to nw.js.  Canvas zooming, 
svg-based data structure drawings, GUI theming, and more...

A lot of this beta was devoted to getting an automated build system up and 
running.

* fixed "stale pointer" bug when re-opening a subpatch on a scalar that has an 
event handler
* added ds tutorial for field parameters
* removed more debugging messages
* updated ds tutorials, add coords tutorial for ds shapes
* fixed stroke-linecap "square" style
* use standard "d" attribute instead of "data" for setting svg data
* fixed for the open dialog
* added feature to format path data into a FUDI message
* added table of contents to help browser
* fixed crasher with scalar dialog handling of vector data
* fixed data properties dialog positioning
* fixed typos in drawnumber_vis that caused sizing bug
* check scroll bars after zooming the canvas
* allow doc/ and extra/ prefixes to search a particular directory (instead of
  a natural language search)
* allow browsing the docs using native file dialog
* fixed small bugs in the doc search engine
* fixed font size bug on newer versions of Gnu/Linux
* fixed pdogg dependency, bump version to 0.25.2
* fixed regression with broken object box getting recreated with a superfluous 
cord connection
* now using homebrew on OSX instead of macports (faster install time, smaller 
install size)
* fixed stroke-dashoffset to stick when scalar is re-vis'd
* lots of other small fixes here and there...

This is a beta release, so please report lots of bugs to
https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data/issues

Binaries:

Debian Jessie 32-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-i686- jessie-beta3.deb

Debian Jessie 64-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-x86_64- jessie-beta3.deb

Ubuntu 14.04 32-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-i686- ubuntu14.04-beta3.deb

Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-x86_64- ubuntu14.04-beta3.deb

Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-x86_64- ubuntu16.04-beta3.deb

Windows with 64-bit GUI: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-x86_64- windows-beta3.zip

Windows with 32-bit GUI: https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ 
raw/master/purr-data-i686- windows-beta3.zip

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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

>
> Does the CHIP have that same architecture? (armv7) Worth a try.
>

yes it does :)  armv7!


> The standard auto tools method
>

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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Dan Wilcox]

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres  wrote:
> and/or download the prebuilt binary from Miller
> 
> So there's a pre-built version from Miller that should work on C.H.I.P., and 
> is this the one? :)

I dunno. Does the CHIP have that same architecture? (armv7) Worth a try.

> Pd version 0.47-1 compiled for ARMv7/linux (Raspberry Pi version 2; UDOO) (4 
> Megabytes) . <>
>  
> and/or download the source and build it yourself (it’s easy).
> 
>  step by step recipe for dummies?
>  <>

The standard auto tools method (I think this is listed in the readme/install 
instructions):

cd path/to/pd/source
./configure
make

run with:

cd bin
./pd

install with:

sudo make install


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Re: [PD] Purr Data Beta 3

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

howdy, do you know if one (and which one) of these can be installed on
C.H.I.P.?

thanks

2016-11-01 14:39 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list :

> Purr Data Beta 3!
>
> This is the GUI port of Pd-l2ork from tcl/tk to nw.js.  Canvas zooming,
> svg-based data structure drawings, GUI theming, and more...
>
> A lot of this beta was devoted to getting an automated build system up and
> running.
>
> * fixed "stale pointer" bug when re-opening a subpatch on a scalar that
> has an event handler
> * added ds tutorial for field parameters
> * removed more debugging messages
> * updated ds tutorials, add coords tutorial for ds shapes
> * fixed stroke-linecap "square" style
> * use standard "d" attribute instead of "data" for setting svg data
> * fixed for the open dialog
> * added feature to format path data into a FUDI message
> * added table of contents to help browser
> * fixed crasher with scalar dialog handling of vector data
> * fixed data properties dialog positioning
> * fixed typos in drawnumber_vis that caused sizing bug
> * check scroll bars after zooming the canvas
> * allow doc/ and extra/ prefixes to search a particular directory (instead
> of
>   a natural language search)
> * allow browsing the docs using native file dialog
> * fixed small bugs in the doc search engine
> * fixed font size bug on newer versions of Gnu/Linux
> * fixed pdogg dependency, bump version to 0.25.2
> * fixed regression with broken object box getting recreated with a
> superfluous cord connection
> * now using homebrew on OSX instead of macports (faster install time,
> smaller install size)
> * fixed stroke-dashoffset to stick when scalar is re-vis'd
> * lots of other small fixes here and there...
>
> This is a beta release, so please report lots of bugs to
> https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues
>
> Binaries:
>
> Debian Jessie 32-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/
> raw/master/purr-data-i686-jessie-beta3.deb
>
> Debian Jessie 64-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/
> raw/master/purr-data-x86_64-jessie-beta3.deb
>
> Ubuntu 14.04 32-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/
> raw/master/purr-data-i686-ubuntu14.04-beta3.deb
>
> Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/
> raw/master/purr-data-x86_64-ubuntu14.04-beta3.deb
>
> Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/
> raw/master/purr-data-x86_64-ubuntu16.04-beta3.deb
>
> Windows with 64-bit GUI: https://git.purrdata.net/
> jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/raw/master/purr-data-x86_64-windows-beta3.zip
>
> Windows with 32-bit GUI: https://git.purrdata.net/
> jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/raw/master/purr-data-i686-windows-beta3.zip
>
>
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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2016-11-02 20:19 GMT-02:00 Dan Wilcox :

> you might be able to add a separate ppa source for newer builds
>

don't get what the first meant :/ but not important!


> and/or download the prebuilt binary from Miller
>

So there's a pre-built version from Miller that should work on C.H.I.P.,
and is this the one? :)

Pd version 0.47-1 compiled for ARMv7/linux (Raspberry Pi version 2; UDOO)
(4 Megabytes) .


> and/or download the source and build it yourself (it’s easy).
>

 step by step recipe for dummies?

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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Dan Wilcox]

In most Linux distributions, versions are set in the package manager and 
changing versions of the distribution (aka Ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10, etc) changes 
the versions of all packages on the system. This is a *good* thing since many 
programs rely on specific versions of libraries and changing certain things but 
not others can lead to instability, crashes, etc. Which version of pd that is 
in the package manager is then defined by which overall version of the 
distribution you are using.

Debian sticks with a “stable” and “unstable” metaphor where stable is usually 
older but much more tested and hence “stable. If you want newer and more 
bleeding edge stuff, you’ll need to use the unstable distribution instead which 
probably has a newer version of pd. Barring that, you might be able to add a 
separate ppa source for newer builds and/or download the prebuilt binary from 
Miller and/or download the source and build it yourself (it’s easy).


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> On Nov 2, 2016, at 2:57 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: Richie Cyngler mailto:glitch...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47
> Date: November 2, 2016 at 2:57:15 PM MDT
> To: "ben...@free.fr "  >
> Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at " 
> mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> 
> 
> I've had the same issue on RPi. I'm no backend Linux guy either but it seems 
> problematic for Pd's available current version to be tied to an OS release. 
> Is there some way around this?

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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Richie Cyngler]

Your reasoning makes sense to me IOhannes. My thinking was that it would be
good to be able to install newer versions of Pd independently of the OS
distribution it's running on. I see that they are not entirely independent
from each other though.

On Thursday, 3 November 2016, IOhannes m zmölnig  wrote:

> On 11/02/2016 09:57 PM, Richie Cyngler wrote:
> > I've had the same issue on RPi. I'm no backend Linux guy either but it
> > seems problematic for Pd's available current version to be tied to an OS
> > release.
>
> why is this problematic?
>
> the entire point of a distribution (which is a more accurate term than
> "OS"), is to ensure that all the components play together *nicely*.
> this works suprisingly well, given that Debian/stable (the one with
> Pd-0.46) has about 57000 software packages, that *all* play together
> nicely.
>
> > Is there some way around this?
>
> it occurs to me, that i have posted one a number of times.
>
>
> anyhow, I'm planning to provide backports once Debian/stretch has been
> released.
>
> fgmrdsa
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 11/02/2016 09:57 PM, Richie Cyngler wrote:
> I've had the same issue on RPi. I'm no backend Linux guy either but it
> seems problematic for Pd's available current version to be tied to an OS
> release.

why is this problematic?

the entire point of a distribution (which is a more accurate term than
"OS"), is to ensure that all the components play together *nicely*.
this works suprisingly well, given that Debian/stable (the one with
Pd-0.46) has about 57000 software packages, that *all* play together nicely.

> Is there some way around this?

it occurs to me, that i have posted one a number of times.


anyhow, I'm planning to provide backports once Debian/stretch has been
released.

fgmrdsa
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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Richie Cyngler]

I've had the same issue on RPi. I'm no backend Linux guy either but it
seems problematic for Pd's available current version to be tied to an OS
release. Is there some way around this?

On Thursday, 3 November 2016, Benjamin ~ b01  wrote:

> as previously answered by IOhannes :
>
>
> On 2016-10-25 03:12, Peter Nyboer wrote:
>
> Is 47 available via apt, or is 46 the latest I can get through this method?
>
> certainly Pd-0.47 is available via the official Debian apt repositories.
>
> but Debian/jessie (aka stable) has been released 2015-04, when the
> current Pd version was 0.46.
> so in order to use the 0.47 packages, you need to do a system upgrade to
> stretch (currently testing).
>
> you **might** have luck with manually downloading/installing the stretch
> packages¹ on your jessie system (totally untested; also, i would **not**
> recommend adding stretch to your apt-sources, as the entire C++ stack
> has changed and you might just blow your system).
>
>
> fgamsdr
> IOhannes
>
>
> PS: and not to forget: i have posted instructions to this list numerous
> times, how to build your own debs (based on the original Debian
> packages) for your odd system (e.g. raspberries running jessie) - which
> happens to also work in your case!
>
> ¹ https://packages.debian.org/stretch/puredata
>
> btw, I'm curious about the result
>
> ++
> b
>
> On 02/11/2016 18:23, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>
> howdy, so I finally tried installing pd vanilla on my C.H.I.P.
>
> tried apt-get install puredata and got Pd 0.46
>
> where's 0.47?
>
> it's a debian package and an ARM architecture, so, can you install 0.47 in
> C.H.I.P.? Anyone did it?
>
> sorry I'm really dumb on this, never really messed with linux or anything
>
> cheers
>
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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Benjamin ~ b01]

as previously answered by IOhannes :


> On 2016-10-25 03:12, Peter Nyboer wrote:
>> Is 47 available via apt, or is 46 the latest I can get through this method?
> certainly Pd-0.47 is available via the official Debian apt repositories.
>
> but Debian/jessie (aka stable) has been released 2015-04, when the
> current Pd version was 0.46.
> so in order to use the 0.47 packages, you need to do a system upgrade to
> stretch (currently testing).
>
> you *might* have luck with manually downloading/installing the stretch
> packages¹ on your jessie system (totally untested; also, i would *not*
> recommend adding stretch to your apt-sources, as the entire C++ stack
> has changed and you might just blow your system).
>
>
> fgamsdr
> IOhannes
>
>
> PS: and not to forget: i have posted instructions to this list numerous
> times, how to build your own debs (based on the original Debian
> packages) for your odd system (e.g. raspberries running jessie) - which
> happens to also work in your case!
>
> ¹ https://packages.debian.org/stretch/puredata
>
btw, I'm curious about the result

++
b

On 02/11/2016 18:23, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> howdy, so I finally tried installing pd vanilla on my C.H.I.P.
>
> tried apt-get install puredata and got Pd 0.46
>
> where's 0.47?
>
> it's a debian package and an ARM architecture, so, can you install
> 0.47 in C.H.I.P.? Anyone did it?
>
> sorry I'm really dumb on this, never really messed with linux or anything
>
> cheers
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] [pdconv16_r] Expanding abstractions & Compiling Vanilla Patches As Objects (Gen~?)

[Matt Barber]

+1 on receiving control data from [inlet~] (even a new object, like
[leftinlet~], would be a tremendous addition).
+1 on being able to tell whether an [inlet~] has a signal connection in the
parent patch.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> howdy, as I have no technical idea this is an inquire and, if possible, a
> feature request.
>
> I wonder if a thing like libpd could work as turning a vanilla patch into
> a compiled object to be used inside pd... that'd be something like gen~ in
> max/msp.
>
> I also have some requests to expand the functionality of abstractions to
> behave more like objects such as: A- being able to retrieve control data
> from [inlet~]; B - being able to know if a signal is connected to [inlet~].
>
> cheers
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Re: [PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Peter P.]

* Alexandre Torres Porres  [2016-11-02 18:24]:
> howdy, so I finally tried installing pd vanilla on my C.H.I.P.
Congratulations! But what is a C.H.I.P.?
 
> tried apt-get install puredata and got Pd 0.46
> 
> where's 0.47?
$ aptitude versions puredata

or search https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

which might show you the available versions. If this is a Debian system
you would have to use the "testing" version of the package. 
Perhaps see 
https://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing
(unverified)
 
> it's a debian package and an ARM architecture, so, can you install 0.47 in
> C.H.I.P.? Anyone did it?
> 
> sorry I'm really dumb on this, never really messed with linux or anything
Don't worry, you are almost there™

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[PD] C.H.I.P. & Pd Vanilla 0.47

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

howdy, so I finally tried installing pd vanilla on my C.H.I.P.

tried apt-get install puredata and got Pd 0.46

where's 0.47?

it's a debian package and an ARM architecture, so, can you install 0.47 in
C.H.I.P.? Anyone did it?

sorry I'm really dumb on this, never really messed with linux or anything

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