Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Stan Halpin]

Could do Cormorants, Canada Geese, and Other Not-Favorite Birds

stan

On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:32 PM, William Robb wrote:

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Roberts"
> Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008
>
>
>> Christian wrote:
>>
>>> you forgot:
>>> Birds
>>> Birds again
>>> More birds
>>
>> Why not just "Cormorants"?
>
> The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This  
> means
> that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the
> subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world.
> My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature,
> therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of
> water...
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Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Norm Baugher]

Baby pigeons...


William Robb wrote:
> The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This means 
> that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the 
> subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world.
> My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, 
> therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of 
> water...
>
> William Robb 
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Re: Gilligan's Island!

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: Gilligan's Island!



> I always liked MaryAnne.  What did she use?

The professor, no doubt.

William Robb


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Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008


> Christian wrote:
>
>>you forgot:
>>Birds
>>Birds again
>>More birds
>
> Why not just "Cormorants"?

The PUG is supposed to be as inclusive a gallery as possible. This means 
that themes should be doable with fairly basic equipment, and that the 
subject shouldn't be exclusive to certain parts of the world.
My understanding is that cormorants are a seaside dwelling creature, 
therefore out of reach of people who don't live near large bodies of 
water...

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Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Mark Roberts]

Christian wrote:

>you forgot:
>Birds
>Birds again
>More birds

Why not just "Cormorants"?


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Re: PESO - On the Spadina Car

[Rick Womer]

Frank,

The elbow sticking into the frame from the right is
distracting, and the trees aren't blurred enough to
catch my interest.  There is nothing else going on.

Shot from the front of the car, so that we could see
peoples' faces, this could be a really good shot.

Rick


--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure about this one.  Some of you may be
> getting bored of my
> transit shots in any event, but I keep dithering on
> this one.
> 
> What I do like is the blurred trees whizzing by the
> side windows.
> 
> What think you?  Boring and banal, or somewhat
> interesting?
> 
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor
> 
> Your opinions matter to me!
> 
> thanks,
> frank
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Re: July PUG submission

[Rick Womer]

Scott,

I just tried to submit a photo.  The problem with the
new form is that there isn't a "Submit" button--there
is just a "Send Comment" button, and links for "PUG
Submission" and "No Comments".  So, I filled out the
form and clicked the link for "PUG Submission".

Not intuitive.

Please let me know if it went through.

Rick

--- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Howdy, folks.
> 
> The July submission form is at http://pdmlpug.org/ 
> You can still use 
> the old form, too.  After the 21st I'll be changing
> the links at 
> pug.komkon.org to reflect the new form.  Some time
> after that I'll be 
> asking Jostein to disable the autopug form.
> 
> I'll post another reminder before the deadline.
> 
> Thanks!  And send photos.  Lots of them.  So far I
> have more film 
> submissions than digital.  No excuse for that.  
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Re: PESO - R G B

[Kenneth Waller]

Thanks to all that commented.

* Toine asked if this was an HDR image - No.

*  Marnie stated "Great shot, Ken. But  you knew that, didn't you? ;-)"
Actually I wouldn't have posted if I didn't like it but I was looking for 
other people's opinions & observations.  ;+}

I haven't printed it yet but I suspect it will print very well.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: PESO - R G B


> Great shot.
>
> I'll have to go back and have a look at mine again.
> LOL
>
> Dave
>
> On 6/18/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As in Red rocks, Green brush & Blue sky.
>>
>> Taken in Valley of Fire State Park, Nevada
>>
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6100667
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>
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Re: PESO - On the Spadina Car

[Kenneth Waller]

Knarf - I think the concept has potential but I'd like the whizzing trees in 
the side windows to be more prominent.
Makes me think of getting ready to jump into hyper space!

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: PESO - On the Spadina Car


> I'm not sure about this one.  Some of you may be getting bored of my
> transit shots in any event, but I keep dithering on this one.
>
> What I do like is the blurred trees whizzing by the side windows.
>
> What think you?  Boring and banal, or somewhat interesting?
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor
>
> Your opinions matter to me!
>
> thanks,
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Re: PESO 2007 - 27d - GDG

[Kenneth Waller]

Thanks Godfrey,
I personally think this is stronger but YMMV.

Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: PESO 2007 - 27d - GDG


> An alternative composition, on the theme of the first I posted in  
> this week 27 series ...
> 
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/27d.htm
> 
> Comments, critique and bait always appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
>   www.gdgphoto.com


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Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Daniel J. Matyola]

No, NO, NOOO!  Not TheBirds!

On 6/19/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you forgot:
> Birds
> Birds again
> More birds
> ...
>
> --
>
> Christian
> http://photography.skofteland.net
>
>
> Norm Baugher wrote:
> > OK, I'll give it a try...
> >
> > Black & White
> > Synchronicity
> > Flowers
> > Kittens
> > Dirty Socks
> > Strange Phenomena/UFOs
> > Baby Pigeons
> > Gumbo
> > Hangovers
> > Root Beer
> > Jimi Hendrix
> > HDTV
> > Mothers-in-Law
> > Global Warming
> > Gravel
> > WTF?
> > WMDs
> > Beer
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > Scott Loveless wrote:
> >> Hey, gang.  I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG
> >> themes.  So toss 'em out.  Be creative.  Philosophize.  Flame each
> >> other's stupid ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look at the thread in a
> >> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit.
> >>
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PESO -- Donnan Park

[Mike Hamilton]

http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/06/18/donnan-park/

Taken during sunset, with a storm brewing in the background.  I wish
the playground and hockey arena weren't there to clutter the
background, but what can ya do?

K10D, DA 14, etc...

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Re: Lightroom and organizing files

[Doug Franklin]

John Sessoms wrote:

>> The folks I know who do drive repairs tell me that the number one 
>> cause of hard drive failure are poor power supplies, not heat.
>  H?  Could be. This computer is on its third power supply and still 
> has the original hard drive.

Not just the power supply, but also the mains power going into the
supply.  Since personal computers have become commodity items, the low
cost power supplies in them typically aren't designed with enough
chutzpah to deal with dirty input power, or to clean it up sufficiently
to satisfy the (sensitive) digital chickens it's keeping fed.  This is
one of the benefits of (some) UPS systems: they clean up the mains power
before the power supply in the computer has to deal with it.

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Re: PESO - On the Spadina Car

[P. J. Alling]

Sorry frank, there's the germ of an idea here, but you've done it before 
only better.

frank theriault wrote:
> I'm not sure about this one.  Some of you may be getting bored of my
> transit shots in any event, but I keep dithering on this one.
>
> What I do like is the blurred trees whizzing by the side windows.
>
> What think you?  Boring and banal, or somewhat interesting?
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor
>
> Your opinions matter to me!
>
> thanks,
> frank
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Re: PUG themes for 2008

[ann sanfedele]

Rick Womer wrote:

>To start things:
>
>Roots
>Oops
>Solitaire
>Traffic
>
>Rick
>

I like "ooops"  a lot

also --  I suggest --- BUGS  :)
Especially the kind with 4 wheels

ann

>
>--- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hey, gang.  I think it's time to start discussing
>>next year's PUG 
>>themes.  So toss 'em out.  Be creative. 
>>Philosophize.  Flame each 
>>other's stupid ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look
>>at the thread in a 
>>few days and we'll narrow it down a bit.
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Re: PESO - Irony?

[P. J. Alling]

It's not that Ironic anymore, just sad.

frank theriault wrote:
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/19/2007 1:29:18 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey, gang.  I think  it's time to start discussing next year's PUG 
themes.  So toss 'em  out.  Be creative.  Philosophize.  Flame each 
other's stupid  ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look at the thread in a 
few days  and we'll narrow it down a bit.

-- 
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==
This always feels like a Rorschach test.  

Hard  
Soft
Lightweight
Dense
Pattern
Texture
Shadow
Obvious  
Subtle
Juxtaposition
Simplicity
Technical
Modern
Old
Profound
Silly
Travel
Still  Life
Smooth
Rough
Signs
Weathered
Gloomy

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Re: PESO - On the Spadina Car

[Jack Davis]

Noticed the symmetry of the composition, but beyond that, nothing
within the car to hold my attention.

Jack
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure about this one.  Some of you may be getting bored of my
> transit shots in any event, but I keep dithering on this one.
> 
> What I do like is the blurred trees whizzing by the side windows.
> 
> What think you?  Boring and banal, or somewhat interesting?
> 
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor
> 
> Your opinions matter to me!
> 
> thanks,
> frank
> 
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Re: PESO - Irony?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 19, 2007, at 2:41 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71

Yup. :-) Nice catch.

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Re: PESO - On the Spadina Car

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/19/2007 2:54:40 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not sure about  this one.  Some of you may be getting bored of my
transit shots in any  event, but I keep dithering on this one.

What I do like is the blurred  trees whizzing by the side windows.

What think you?  Boring and  banal, or somewhat  interesting?

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor

Your  opinions matter to me!

thanks,
frank

==
I sort of  like the blurred trees whizzing by the windows, myself.

Other than that,  don't know. Real decisive, aren't I?

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Re: PESO - Irony?

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/19/2007 2:46:03 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71

Comments  welcome.

cheers,
frank


===
Had to make this  larger (+), and look at it closely to get the irony. Hey, 
that's so much  established fact now, not sure it is irony any longer. There 
has to be another,  better name for it. :-)

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PESO - On the Spadina Car

[frank theriault]

I'm not sure about this one.  Some of you may be getting bored of my
transit shots in any event, but I keep dithering on this one.

What I do like is the blurred trees whizzing by the side windows.

What think you?  Boring and banal, or somewhat interesting?

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor

Your opinions matter to me!

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Re: PESO - On the Spadina Car

[Norm Baugher]

The trees flying by make it somewhat interesting. I like it actually...
Norm

frank theriault wrote:
> I'm not sure about this one.  Some of you may be getting bored of my
> transit shots in any event, but I keep dithering on this one.
>
> What I do like is the blurred trees whizzing by the side windows.
>
> What think you?  Boring and banal, or somewhat interesting?
>
> http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=P7N4t7ibor
>
> Your opinions matter to me!
>
> thanks,
> frank
>
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PESO - Irony?

[frank theriault]

http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=Lcdu6vfm71

Comments welcome.

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Re: Gilligan's Island!

[frank theriault]

On 6/19/07, Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.concentric.net/~sherfy/special2.html
>
> It looks like Ginger was supporting Pentax!

I always liked MaryAnne.  What did she use?

I bet Thurston Howell III used a Leica.  No, make that, he ~bought~ a
Leica, never used it, kept it MIB and resold it once he got off The
Island at a huge profit...

;-)

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Re: PESO - R G B

[frank theriault]

On 6/18/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As in Red rocks, Green brush & Blue sky.
>
> Taken in Valley of Fire State Park, Nevada
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6100667
>
> Comments appreciated.

Quite beautiful!

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Re: ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Christian]

you forgot:
Birds
Birds again
More birds
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Norm Baugher wrote:
> OK, I'll give it a try...
> 
> Black & White
> Synchronicity
> Flowers
> Kittens
> Dirty Socks
> Strange Phenomena/UFOs
> Baby Pigeons
> Gumbo
> Hangovers
> Root Beer
> Jimi Hendrix
> HDTV
> Mothers-in-Law
> Global Warming
> Gravel
> WTF?
> WMDs
> Beer
> 
> Norm
> 
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>> Hey, gang.  I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG 
>> themes.  So toss 'em out.  Be creative.  Philosophize.  Flame each 
>> other's stupid ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look at the thread in a 
>> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit.
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Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Norm Baugher]

OK, I'll give it a try...

Black & White
Synchronicity
Flowers
Kittens
Dirty Socks
Strange Phenomena/UFOs
Baby Pigeons
Gumbo
Hangovers
Root Beer
Jimi Hendrix
HDTV
Mothers-in-Law
Global Warming
Gravel
WTF?
WMDs
Beer

Norm

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> themes.  So toss 'em out.  Be creative.  Philosophize.  Flame each 
> other's stupid ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look at the thread in a 
> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit.
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Re: PESO: fuel

[frank theriault]

On 6/12/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/ysm7z6
>
> make,model and year to be revealed by one of you...
> I only know part of it

I'm only just looking at this one now, Ann, but I really like it!
Very strong lines - simple composition.

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Re: PUG themes for 2008

[Rick Womer]

To start things:

Roots
Oops
Solitaire
Traffic

Rick

--- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey, gang.  I think it's time to start discussing
> next year's PUG 
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> Philosophize.  Flame each 
> other's stupid ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look
> at the thread in a 
> few days and we'll narrow it down a bit.
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Re: PESO spider eyes

[frank theriault]

On 6/18/07, Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some sort of common jumping spider. The eyes of the little creature
> are really big and shiny. In fact my silhouette is visible in the eyes
> of the beast.
>
> If you have a some form of arachnophobia please don't look!
>
> http://leende.net/peso/20070618

Very cool shot!

cheers,
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RE: PESO - R G B

[Tom C]

Excellent Ken.  Seems it would stand up well to enlargement.

Tom C.


>From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: PESO  -  R G B Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:57:13 -0400
>
>As in Red rocks, Green brush & Blue sky.
>
>Taken in Valley of Fire State Park, Nevada
>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6100667
>
>Comments appreciated.
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RE: PESO spider eyes

[Tom C]

Unusual and interesting.  Looks like an old sci-fi movie clip.  Good job.


Tom C.

>From: Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:49:40 +0200
>
>Some sort of common jumping spider. The eyes of the little creature
>are really big and shiny. In fact my silhouette is visible in the eyes
>of the beast.
>
>If you have a some form of arachnophobia please don't look!
>
>http://leende.net/peso/20070618
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Re: GESO: My Little Photo Show

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/19/2007 9:58:30 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I had seen them all,  save for the blue window. But they're much more 
impactful as a gallery.  Excellent work.
Paul


Thanks, Paul.

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Re: A couple more photos

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/18/2007 9:02:53 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I uploaded a few more  photos, thoughts please...Thanks Joe
www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn

P.S. here is one you might like to look at  
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6102225

==
When  did you meet Heather? Nice gallery, I looked from about 1/2 up, think 
I'd seen  others before.

Like the couple with man in fur hat. Very nice. Looks like  you removed the 
background on that one and substituted something else though,  and there is a 
bit of a rim of white around his neck you should clone out or  something. Like 
the cat and dog shots too, and I often don't. Wake Up and Hide  and Seek. 
Really caught there animal characters with those, great  shots.

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Re: GESO: My Little Photo Show

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/19/2007 10:05:55 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Super job Marnie.

I  really think the layout is very strong.

Portrays your message very  well.

Dave

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Re: PESO

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/18/2007 3:58:16 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here is a older Black  &White sports photo if anyone wants have a  look...Joe
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6028060


Looks  like a few areas could be lightened, but that's nice. Good moment well 
 caught.

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Re: PESO: my son reading

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/17/2007 10:34:41 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wrote:

>  Taken at our cabin.  Sebastian was reading a magazine, and didn't  notice
> I got my camera out.  Pentax LX, K85/1.8, wide open at  1/30.  It's nice
> when that works.  :-)

...and gee,  wouldn't it have been nice if I'd included the link? ;)
Here it is:  .

-tih

==
Very  nice shot, good composition and mood. People have already mentioned it 
could use  lightening, so I guess I can skip that comment. ;-)

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Re: PAW 2007 - 26 - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/12/2007 9:00:48 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Up in SF today, not a lot of  time for shooting, but this little  
fellow really didn't like my taking  an interest in him at all...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/26.htm

(The very fine  textures render best in the larger version; making the  
smaller web  page version produces some odd artifacts.)

Comments, critique, flung  bird-seed always  appreciated.

enjoy,
Godfrey


Surprisingly  interesting shot for what could be just a pigeon shot. I think 
it's that L by  the red line. Seems very significant somehow.

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Re: PESO -- Imperfect Mirror

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/18/2007 7:13:11 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One last peso from  the dance  exhibition.

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_imperfectmirror.html

Equipment:   Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

As usual comments are welcome but  may be totally ignored.


Oh, that is really nice, Peter.  Looks a little crooked, if you can rotate it 
a little without losing the  spotlight in the upper left, I would. But very 
good timing. Sort of surreal.  Certainly makes one look twice.

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Re: GESO: My Little Photo Show

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/19/2007 8:57:52 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice work  Marnie.  I didn't get to see all of these when you were
posting them  before.  I especially like the blue window rocks, factory
and swamp,  with the caged tree and custom lots coming in closely
behind  :)   Godd job and congratulations on finishing your  project.
:)

Russ

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PUG themes for 2008

[Scott Loveless]

Hey, gang.  I think it's time to start discussing next year's PUG 
themes.  So toss 'em out.  Be creative.  Philosophize.  Flame each 
other's stupid ideas.  Whatever.  I'll take a look at the thread in a 
few days and we'll narrow it down a bit.

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Re: PESO spider eyes

[Toine]

Thanks Paul en Steve. This shot won't see the wall. My wife hates
spiders. I don't know why. Most of them are very friendly creatures.

On 6/19/07, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The shallow DOF and the sharp eyes enhance the "spookiness".  I like it
> quite a bit, although maybe not 16 x 20 on my wall.
>
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>
> >>> Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2007 4:49 PM >>>
> Some sort of common jumping spider. The eyes of the little creature
> are really big and shiny. In fact my silhouette is visible in the eyes
> of the beast.
>
> If you have a some form of arachnophobia please don't look!
>
> http://leende.net/peso/20070618
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Re: PESO - R G B

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/18/2007 12:00:05 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As in Red rocks, Green  brush & Blue sky.

Taken in Valley of Fire State Park,  Nevada

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6100667

Comments  appreciated.

Kenneth Waller


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Re: OT SD the future?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

For the record, that's an incorrect quote. Rob Studdert said that in  
a post that included a quote from one of my responses, but you didn't  
include anything of my quote here. :-)

grz
Godfrey

On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Amita Guha wrote:

> Interesting. I just bought my first Olympus on Sunday (the SP-550 UZ)
> so I'm entering the world of XD for the first time. I guess I'll see
> how it goes.
>
> Amita
>
>> On 17/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have seen many xD cards
>> rendered inoperable (in camera only) though transfer
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PESO 2007 - 27d - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

An alternative composition, on the theme of the first I posted in  
this week 27 series ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/27d.htm

Comments, critique and bait always appreciated.

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Re: OT SD the future?

[Amita Guha]

Interesting. I just bought my first Olympus on Sunday (the SP-550 UZ)
so I'm entering the world of XD for the first time. I guess I'll see
how it goes.

Amita

> On 17/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have seen many xD cards
> rendered inoperable (in camera only) though transfer
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Re: PESO spider eyes

[Steve Desjardins]

The shallow DOF and the sharp eyes enhance the "spookiness".  I like it
quite a bit, although maybe not 16 x 20 on my wall.

Steven Desjardins
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>>> Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/18/2007 4:49 PM >>>
Some sort of common jumping spider. The eyes of the little creature
are really big and shiny. In fact my silhouette is visible in the eyes
of the beast.

If you have a some form of arachnophobia please don't look!

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Re: PESO spider eyes

[pnstenquist]

Interesting. The shallow DOF makes it different. I like it.
 -- Original message --
From: Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yes very shallow. 25 of 30 shots out of focus.
> Thanks for looking.
> 
> On 6/19/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nice capture. Talk about shallow depth of field
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Toine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: PESO spider eyes
> >
> >
> > > Some sort of common jumping spider. The eyes of the little creature
> > > are really big and shiny. In fact my silhouette is visible in the eyes
> > > of the beast.
> > >
> > > If you have a some form of arachnophobia please don't look!
> > >
> > > http://leende.net/peso/20070618
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Re: PESO spider eyes

[Toine]

Yes very shallow. 25 of 30 shots out of focus.
Thanks for looking.

On 6/19/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice capture. Talk about shallow depth of field
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Toine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO spider eyes
>
>
> > Some sort of common jumping spider. The eyes of the little creature
> > are really big and shiny. In fact my silhouette is visible in the eyes
> > of the beast.
> >
> > If you have a some form of arachnophobia please don't look!
> >
> > http://leende.net/peso/20070618
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Re: Next version of Firefox will be colorspace-aware

[graywolf]

Mozilla seems to be taking after MS, bugware. And instead of fixing it bring 
out a new version with new bugs. Of course at the price it is more 
understandable then MS's stance.

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> May be old news to some, but I just heard about it today. Firefox 3 
> will recognize ICC profiles in images. beta should be out in July.
> 
> http://news.com.com/Safari+ushers+in+better+browser+colors/2100-1012_3-6191815.html?tag=nefd.lede
> 
> For those who can't wait, Apple Safari is now available for Windows, 
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Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?

[graywolf]

Having been stationed in Denver back in 1961, I can tell you that it can hardly 
be any worse than it was back then. The only good thing about Coors is it was 
under 3.2% so us 18yo GI's could buy it legally.

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>> From:
>> "P. J. Alling"
>> What was it about Coors, being in great demand until it was generally 
>> available, (I never really liked the stuff). 
> It's the allure of forbidden fruit. Back in the days when it was only 
> available from Kansas and parts west, it had a legendary reputation 
> amongst east coast college boys. More than one college road trip was 
> planned around how far west you actually had to drive to find a place 
> that sold Coors beer.
> 
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> back then either.
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Re: PESO: my son reading

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:37 PM, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote:

> Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Nice. A bit on the dark side for my display, but nothing that could
>> not be improved with a little image processing work.
>
> Thanks, Godfrey!  Yeah, I need to learn to use the scanner better, and
> probably post-process in something Photoshop-like.  It looks better on
> paper; I tend to lose shadow detail in the scans.  My ultra-cheap
> scanner only gives me 256 levels of grey, too, which I guess limits  
> what
> I can do with it a bit...?  Anyway, it's something new to learn... :)

Yes, it is limiting ... you have to work the scanning application's  
controls carefully to acquire as much data as you can when the  
quantization space is small. 8-bit scanners also typically have  
smaller dynamic range.

That said, I worked with 8bit scanners for several years and managed  
to get some excellent quality scans from B&W and color prints.

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Re: GESO: My Little Photo Show

[pnstenquist]

I had seen them all, save for the blue window. But they're much more impactful 
as a gallery. Excellent work.
Paul
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> Nice work Marnie.  I didn't get to see all of these when you were
> posting them before.  I especially like the blue window rocks, factory
> and swamp, with the caged tree and custom lots coming in closely
> behind  :)  Godd job and congratulations on finishing your project.
> :)
> 
> Russ
> 
> On 6/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PHOTOSHOW2/index.htm
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> > The  index pages shows thumbnails of the photos in my showing, arranged how 
> > I
> > hung  them. Although you may have to maximize your browser for the spacing 
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> > be  somewhat correct.
> >
> > Below that are my comments on what I did. (Too long,  but I am still a tad
> > tired.)
> >
> > We were limited to six photos, so sneakily I  took that to mean six FRAMES.
> > (And I wasn't the only one, but there were only  two of us who interpreted 
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> >
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Re: GESO: My Little Photo Show

[David J Brooks]

Super job Marnie.

I really think the layout is very strong.

Portrays your message very well.

Dave

On 6/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PHOTOSHOW2/index.htm
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> hung  them. Although you may have to maximize your browser for the spacing to
> be  somewhat correct.
>
> Below that are my comments on what I did. (Too long,  but I am still a tad
> tired.)
>
> We were limited to six photos, so sneakily I  took that to mean six FRAMES.
> (And I wasn't the only one, but there were only  two of us who interpreted it
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Re: PESO - R G B

[Toine]

Great shot. great colors. Is this a hdr image?

On 6/18/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As in Red rocks, Green brush & Blue sky.
>
> Taken in Valley of Fire State Park, Nevada
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Re: Next version of Firefox will be colorspace-aware

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 19, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> May be old news to some, but I just heard about it today. Firefox 3
> will recognize ICC profiles in images. beta should be out in July.
>
> http://news.com.com/Safari+ushers+in+better+browser+colors/ 
> 2100-1012_3-6191815.html?tag=nefd.lede
>
> For those who can't wait, Apple Safari is now available for Windows,
> but personally I'll let others be early adopters and find the security
> holes.

Several folks I know have installed and are using the public beta of  
Safari on Windows. So far the reports are positive on imaging  
quality, etc.

G

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Re: Lightroom and organizing files

[John Sessoms]

>
> From:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
>
> On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>>> according to Google's findings there's no correlation between drive
>>> temperature and drive mortality
>>>
>>> http://storagemojo.com/?p=378
>> Indeed, I found this particularly interesting as it is contrary to the
>> vast majority of speculative information relating to drive longevity
>> in the past.
>
> The folks I know who do drive repairs tell me that the number one 
> cause of hard drive failure are poor power supplies, not heat.
 H?  Could be. This computer is on its third power supply and still 
has the original hard drive.

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Re: GESO: My Little Photo Show

[Russell Kerstetter]

Nice work Marnie.  I didn't get to see all of these when you were
posting them before.  I especially like the blue window rocks, factory
and swamp, with the caged tree and custom lots coming in closely
behind  :)  Godd job and congratulations on finishing your project.
:)

Russ

On 6/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PHOTOSHOW2/index.htm
>
> The  index pages shows thumbnails of the photos in my showing, arranged how I
> hung  them. Although you may have to maximize your browser for the spacing to
> be  somewhat correct.
>
> Below that are my comments on what I did. (Too long,  but I am still a tad
> tired.)
>
> We were limited to six photos, so sneakily I  took that to mean six FRAMES.
> (And I wasn't the only one, but there were only  two of us who interpreted it
> that loosely.)
>
> Most of you have seen most of  these.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
>
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>
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Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?

[John Sessoms]

>
> From:
> "P. J. Alling"
> What was it about Coors, being in great demand until it was generally 
> available, (I never really liked the stuff). 
It's the allure of forbidden fruit. Back in the days when it was only 
available from Kansas and parts west, it had a legendary reputation 
amongst east coast college boys. More than one college road trip was 
planned around how far west you actually had to drive to find a place 
that sold Coors beer.

And I don't think the current Coors beer is made the same way it was 
back then either.




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Re: PESO: fuel

[John Sessoms]

>
> From:
> Scott Loveless
> ann sanfedele wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/ysm7z6
>>
>> make,model and year to be revealed by one of you...
>> I only know part of it
>>
>> ann

Looks like a late VW Super-Beetle, which was manufactured for sale in 
the US up through about 1979 or so. I'd guess this one is about 1974 or so.

There's a large on-line market for VWs at:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/


>>   
> If any of you are interested, that car is for sale.  I rode by it the 
> other day and according to the sticker it's all original.  It looks 
> really nice, inside and out.  They were closed, and there is no price 
> on the windshield, but if'n you want I can run down there and ask.
Where is it located? If it's the one in Lansdowne, PA, they're askin' $12K

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Re: OT DVD RAM

[Dave Kennedy]

On my Panasonic DVD recorder, I can delete through DVD management
menu, or in the navigator by pressing submenu.

dk

On 6/19/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 07:26:15 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
> >
> > On 18.06.2007, at 23:42 , mike wilson wrote:
> >
> > > I bought a DVD recorder which came with some DVD RAM discs, which I
> > > understand are re-recordable.
> > >
> > > Having used some of them once I now want to re-use them.  They will
> > > not
> > > automatically record over what is on them but I can't see any way of
> > > formatting them in the DVD recorder.  My computer DVD drive does not
> > > recognise them.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Mike, there is usually an option to erase each title somewhere in
> > menu of the recorder. At least it is done that way in my Panasonic
> > DVD recorder. But you should have an option to format entire DVD-RAM
> > disc also, just you have to check all menu options once again :-)
>
> That's my plan for this evening. 8-(  I've had quite a good look but 
> there does not seem to be any "erase" or "format" option.
>
> On another topic entirely, will be in Polska from 13th to 24th august.  I 
> have a small but beautifully appointed apartment in Krakow, with spare beds, 
> if anyone wishes to visit.  The weekend in the middle is already taken, so if 
> you turn up then it's the floor or a bench in the Planty.
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Next version of Firefox will be colorspace-aware

[Mark Roberts]

May be old news to some, but I just heard about it today. Firefox 3 
will recognize ICC profiles in images. beta should be out in July.

http://news.com.com/Safari+ushers+in+better+browser+colors/2100-1012_3-6191815.html?tag=nefd.lede

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Re: OT DVD RAM

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue PM 01:47:33 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
> 
> On 6/19/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Interesting, you sure your drive will handle DVD-RAM? What software are you 
> > using to >burn it? Nero and Roxio do have an option to erase the disk. If 
> > you are using Windows >built-in stuff, who knows.
> >
> 
> I may be wrong, but AFAIK a DVD-RAM can be used without any special
> software, just like a harddisk.

Maybe if you load it empty but I think my DVD recorder is formatting these in a 
way that is incompatible with PC use.


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Re: OT DVD RAM

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue PM 01:32:31 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
> 
> Interesting, you sure your drive will handle DVD-RAM? What software are you 
> using to burn it? Nero and Roxio do have an option to erase the disk. If you 
> are using Windows built-in stuff, who knows.

I didn't fire up Nero, just looked in Exploder and it said "put a disk in, 
stupid" or something to that effect.  IOW, the disc was not visible to the file 
manager.  I'll try Nero tonight.  Will also perm all I can from the DVD 
recorder controls to see if I have missed something.  

The machine doing the recording is a Panasonic Digibox/DVD recorder.  This 
takes digital TV and radio signals and converts them to analogue which then 
goes through another black box to get the SCART output to RF, because my TV is 
from another millenium.  Allied to the DVDR, it's the easiest machine I've ever 
used to record TV.  Go into the week-ahead digital guide (one button press), 
find the programme you want to record, press the buttons as guided onscreen and 
walk away.

> 
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 07:26:15 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
> >>
> >> On 18.06.2007, at 23:42 , mike wilson wrote:
> >>
> >>> I bought a DVD recorder which came with some DVD RAM discs, which I
> >>> understand are re-recordable.
> >>>
> >>> Having used some of them once I now want to re-use them.  They will  
> >>> not
> >>> automatically record over what is on them but I can't see any way of
> >>> formatting them in the DVD recorder.  My computer DVD drive does not
> >>> recognise them.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?
> >> Mike, there is usually an option to erase each title somewhere in  
> >> menu of the recorder. At least it is done that way in my Panasonic  
> >> DVD recorder. But you should have an option to format entire DVD-RAM  
> >> disc also, just you have to check all menu options once again :-)
> > 
> > That's my plan for this evening. 8-(  I've had quite a good look but 
> > there does not seem to be any "erase" or "format" option.
> > 
> > On another topic entirely, will be in Polska from 13th to 24th august.  I 
> > have a small but beautifully appointed apartment in Krakow, with spare 
> > beds, if anyone wishes to visit.  The weekend in the middle is already 
> > taken, so if you turn up then it's the floor or a bench in the Planty.
> > 
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Re: PESO

[Christian]

J wrote:
> Here is a older Black &White sports photo if anyone wants have a look...Joe
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6028060
> 
> 

I like it.  It's a little dark on my monitor, but the composition and 
use of what looks like a fisheye really works.

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Re: OT DVD RAM

[Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu]

On 6/19/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting, you sure your drive will handle DVD-RAM? What software are you 
> using to >burn it? Nero and Roxio do have an option to erase the disk. If you 
> are using Windows >built-in stuff, who knows.
>

I may be wrong, but AFAIK a DVD-RAM can be used without any special
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Re: Serial Number Sequencing

[Dario Bonazza]

That was pre-Spotmatic (6-digit numbers). Yours is post-Spotmatic (7 
figures).
AFAIK, all pre-spottie Super Takumar 35/3.5 lenses were in the 7xx,xxx 
range, while there are also Super Takumar 35/3.5 lenses bearing 1,xxx,xxx, 
3,xxx,xxx and 4,xxx,xxx S/Numbers.

Then, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5 lenses went forward (starting around 4,500,000) 
with 4,xxx,xxx, 5,xxx,xxx, 6,xxx,xxx and 7,xxx,xxx figures.

Dario

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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: Serial Number Sequencing


>
> This Super Takumar 35/3.5 has Serial Number 792220
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270129815327&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us
>
> Mine is # 2002501
>
> It would seem that there was more than one sub-species of S-T 35/3.5.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: OT DVD RAM

[graywolf]

Interesting, you sure your drive will handle DVD-RAM? What software are you 
using to burn it? Nero and Roxio do have an option to erase the disk. If you 
are using Windows built-in stuff, who knows.

graywolf
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mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 07:26:15 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
>>
>> On 18.06.2007, at 23:42 , mike wilson wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a DVD recorder which came with some DVD RAM discs, which I
>>> understand are re-recordable.
>>>
>>> Having used some of them once I now want to re-use them.  They will  
>>> not
>>> automatically record over what is on them but I can't see any way of
>>> formatting them in the DVD recorder.  My computer DVD drive does not
>>> recognise them.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>> Mike, there is usually an option to erase each title somewhere in  
>> menu of the recorder. At least it is done that way in my Panasonic  
>> DVD recorder. But you should have an option to format entire DVD-RAM  
>> disc also, just you have to check all menu options once again :-)
> 
> That's my plan for this evening. 8-(  I've had quite a good look but 
> there does not seem to be any "erase" or "format" option.
> 
> On another topic entirely, will be in Polska from 13th to 24th august.  I 
> have a small but beautifully appointed apartment in Krakow, with spare beds, 
> if anyone wishes to visit.  The weekend in the middle is already taken, so if 
> you turn up then it's the floor or a bench in the Planty.
> 
> 
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Re: Histograms

[graywolf]

I believe the in camera histogram is taken from the jpeg thumbnail.

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Stan Halpin wrote:
> The manual that came with my wife's D-Lux3 explicitly stated that one  
> should not expect the on-camera histogram to agree with a histogram  
> in any post-processing software.
> To ease the processing load, I would guess that the on-camera  
> histogram is a rough approximation taken by extrapolation from a few  
> sampled pixels strategically spotted around the sensor coverage.
> This is a familiar strategy to me - I sometimes ease processing load  
> by providing opinions that are a rough approximation based on  
> extrapolation from a few  data points.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jun 17, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Bob W wrote:
> 
>> A Royal Navy carrier (Ark Royal, according to the sailors' hats) is in
>> Greenwich today, so I decided to take a picture of it. It's a rather
>> uninteresting picture, but given the very grey tonality I thought I'd
>> play around with exposing to the right to see what difference it made
>> in Lightroom when I applied a tone curve. I first made an exposure on
>> auto with no compensation, and looked at the histogram. I then dialled
>> in various amounts of over-exposure to move it to the right until the
>> histogram fell off the edge.
>>
>> To my surprise, when I look at the pictures in Lightroom the histogram
>> is significantly further to the right than it is on the camera's
>> display. So the exposure that was right up against the edge in the
>> camera, has fallen over it in Lightroom. Is this normal? Have other
>> people seen the same thing with their cameras?
>>
>> Here is a photo that was over to the right, but not quite at the far
>> end. About +1.5 stops, I think.
>> http://www.web-options.com/Carrier/content/_6175495_large.html
>>
>> Architectural note: you can see the dome of St. Paul's towards the
>> bottom right - it's about 5 miles away.
>>
>> Regards
>> Bob
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WTB - focusing screen for MX

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

As in subject - I'd buy a focusing screen for Pentax MX. It can be  
either SC-1 (split + microprism), SA-1 or SA-3 (microprism only) or  
SB-1 (split only). So if someone has one spare, please contact me, we  
will talk about payment and shipping :-) BTW - what is the difference  
between SA-1 and SA-3 focusing screens??? Or maybe it makes a sense  
to use LX screens, although I'm afraid of 1/3 EV underexposure on  
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Re: OT - YAY! More #*&$ing bike stuff

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 11:48:49 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT - YAY! More #*&$ing bike stuff
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> >> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >> Never knew they made motor bikes/cycles. Any idea as to year of the 
> bike?
> >
> >It is almost identical to the allegedly 1930 model on the Wikipedia 
> site.
> 
> Yep, but it's a 1931 - the last year for Excelsior-Henderson.
> The bike is a KL model, which was their high-performance bike: High 
> compression pistons and hotter cams than the standard "KJ".
> And, as Frank noted, that *is* an in-line four cylinder engine.

Hot, hot, hot!   8-)


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Re: OT Lavatory humour

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Wow. And I thought I could read English quite well...

- Mensaje original 
De: Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: martes, 19 de junio, 2007 14:32:51
Asunto: Re: OT Lavatory humour

Wow.  And I thought I had time on my hands. 

Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
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>>> mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/19/2007 6:39 AM >>>
Indian rhapsody

Naan, just killed a man 
Papadum against his head 
Had lime pickle now he's dead. 
Naan, dinner's just begun 
But now I'm gonna throw it all away. 
Naan, ooh, ooh Didn't mean to make you cry 
If I'm not back from the loo this time tomorrow 
Curry on, curry on 
Cause nothing really Madras .. 
Too late, my dinner's gone 
Sends shivers down my spine 
Bottom aching all the time 
Goodbye onion bhaji, I've got to go 
Gotta leave you all behind and use the loo. 
Naan, ooh, ooh 
This dopiaza is so mild 
I sometimes wish we'd never come here at all. 

[guitar solo] 

I see a little chicken tikka on the side 
Rogan Josh, Rogan Josh, pass the chutney made of mango 
Vindaloo does nicely Very very spicy 
Meat! 
Byriani (Byriani) 
Byriani (Byriani) 
Byriani and a naan 
(A vindaloo loo loo loo) 
I've eaten balti, somebody help me 
He's eaten balti, get him to the lavatory 
Stand you well back 
'Case the loo is quarantined... 
Here it comes 
There it goes 
Technicolor yawn 
I chunder 
No! 
It's coming up again 
(There he goes) 
I chunder, it's coming back again 
(There he goes) 
Coming back again 
(up again) 
Here it comes again. 
(No no no no no no NO) 
On my knees, I'm on my knees 
On his knees, Oh, there he goes 
This vindaloo 
Is about to wreck my guts 
Poor meee.. poor m...poor MEE! 

[guitar solo] 

So you think you can chunder and then feel alright? 
So you try to eat curry and drink beer all night? 
Oh maybe, but now you'll puke like a baby 
Just had to come out 
It just had to come right out in here. 

[guitar solo] 

[slow bit] 
Korma or dopiaza 
bhaji, naan or saag 
Nothing makes a difference 
Nothing makes a difference 
To meee 
(Any way the wind blowsshshshs)


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Serial Number Sequencing

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

This Super Takumar 35/3.5 has Serial Number 792220
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270129815327&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us

Mine is # 2002501

It would seem that there was more than one sub-species of S-T 35/3.5.



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Gilligan's Island!

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

http://www.concentric.net/~sherfy/special2.html

It looks like Ginger was supporting Pentax!



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Re: OT Lavatory humour

[Steve Desjardins]

Wow.  And I thought I had time on my hands. 

Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
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FAX: (540) 458-8878
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>>> mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/19/2007 6:39 AM >>>
Indian rhapsody

Naan, just killed a man 
Papadum against his head 
Had lime pickle now he's dead. 
Naan, dinner's just begun 
But now I'm gonna throw it all away. 
Naan, ooh, ooh Didn't mean to make you cry 
If I'm not back from the loo this time tomorrow 
Curry on, curry on 
Cause nothing really Madras .. 
Too late, my dinner's gone 
Sends shivers down my spine 
Bottom aching all the time 
Goodbye onion bhaji, I've got to go 
Gotta leave you all behind and use the loo. 
Naan, ooh, ooh 
This dopiaza is so mild 
I sometimes wish we'd never come here at all. 

[guitar solo] 

I see a little chicken tikka on the side 
Rogan Josh, Rogan Josh, pass the chutney made of mango 
Vindaloo does nicely Very very spicy 
Meat! 
Byriani (Byriani) 
Byriani (Byriani) 
Byriani and a naan 
(A vindaloo loo loo loo) 
I've eaten balti, somebody help me 
He's eaten balti, get him to the lavatory 
Stand you well back 
'Case the loo is quarantined... 
Here it comes 
There it goes 
Technicolor yawn 
I chunder 
No! 
It's coming up again 
(There he goes) 
I chunder, it's coming back again 
(There he goes) 
Coming back again 
(up again) 
Here it comes again. 
(No no no no no no NO) 
On my knees, I'm on my knees 
On his knees, Oh, there he goes 
This vindaloo 
Is about to wreck my guts 
Poor meee.. poor m...poor MEE! 

[guitar solo] 

So you think you can chunder and then feel alright? 
So you try to eat curry and drink beer all night? 
Oh maybe, but now you'll puke like a baby 
Just had to come out 
It just had to come right out in here. 

[guitar solo] 

[slow bit] 
Korma or dopiaza 
bhaji, naan or saag 
Nothing makes a difference 
Nothing makes a difference 
To meee 
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Excellent condition.  Only minor wear marks.  Not "minty".  ;-)

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Re: OT Lavatory humour

[P. J. Alling]

This is damn near the silliest thing posted here in weeks.

mike wilson wrote:
> Indian rhapsody
>
> Naan, just killed a man 
> Papadum against his head 
> Had lime pickle now he's dead. 
> Naan, dinner's just begun 
> But now I'm gonna throw it all away. 
> Naan, ooh, ooh Didn't mean to make you cry 
> If I'm not back from the loo this time tomorrow 
> Curry on, curry on 
> Cause nothing really Madras .. 
> Too late, my dinner's gone 
> Sends shivers down my spine 
> Bottom aching all the time 
> Goodbye onion bhaji, I've got to go 
> Gotta leave you all behind and use the loo. 
> Naan, ooh, ooh 
> This dopiaza is so mild 
> I sometimes wish we'd never come here at all. 
>
> [guitar solo] 
>
> I see a little chicken tikka on the side 
> Rogan Josh, Rogan Josh, pass the chutney made of mango 
> Vindaloo does nicely Very very spicy 
> Meat! 
> Byriani (Byriani) 
> Byriani (Byriani) 
> Byriani and a naan 
> (A vindaloo loo loo loo) 
> I've eaten balti, somebody help me 
> He's eaten balti, get him to the lavatory 
> Stand you well back 
> 'Case the loo is quarantined... 
> Here it comes 
> There it goes 
> Technicolor yawn 
> I chunder 
> No! 
> It's coming up again 
> (There he goes) 
> I chunder, it's coming back again 
> (There he goes) 
> Coming back again 
> (up again) 
> Here it comes again. 
> (No no no no no no NO) 
> On my knees, I'm on my knees 
> On his knees, Oh, there he goes 
> This vindaloo 
> Is about to wreck my guts 
> Poor meee.. poor m...poor MEE! 
>
> [guitar solo] 
>
> So you think you can chunder and then feel alright? 
> So you try to eat curry and drink beer all night? 
> Oh maybe, but now you'll puke like a baby 
> Just had to come out 
> It just had to come right out in here. 
>
> [guitar solo] 
>
> [slow bit] 
> Korma or dopiaza 
> bhaji, naan or saag 
> Nothing makes a difference 
> Nothing makes a difference 
> To meee 
> (Any way the wind blowsshshshs)
>
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Re: OT - YAY! More #*&$ing bike stuff

[Mark Roberts]

mike wilson wrote:

>> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> Never knew they made motor bikes/cycles. Any idea as to year of the 
bike?
>
>It is almost identical to the allegedly 1930 model on the Wikipedia 
site.

Yep, but it's a 1931 - the last year for Excelsior-Henderson.
The bike is a KL model, which was their high-performance bike: High 
compression pistons and hotter cams than the standard "KJ".
And, as Frank noted, that *is* an in-line four cylinder engine.


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Re: Lightroom and organizing files

[David J Brooks]

I have not yet explored LR's file ability, and i quess i should.

I have a nearly full Maxtor external HD i store all my pic s and
important documnets on, and i also burn a CD or DVD depending on the
file size.

I just ordered from my old work, a WD 160 Gig USB 2 external for Mac
and PC. Its on back order and my mail room buddy will courier it up
when ready.

Dave

On 6/19/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>
> >> according to Google's findings there's no correlation between drive
> >> temperature and drive mortality
> >>
> >> http://storagemojo.com/?p=378
> >
> > Indeed, I found this particularly interesting as it is contrary to the
> > vast majority of speculative information relating to drive longevity
> > in the past.
>
> The folks I know who do drive repairs tell me that the number one
> cause of hard drive failure are poor power supplies, not heat.
>
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Re: Lightroom and organizing files

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
>
>>> according to Google's findings there's no correlation between 
>>> drive temperature and drive mortality
>>> http://storagemojo.com/?p=378
>>
>> Indeed, I found this particularly interesting as it is contrary to 
>> the vast majority of speculative information relating to drive 
>> longevity in the past.
>
>The folks I know who do drive repairs tell me that the number one  
>cause of hard drive failure are poor power supplies, not heat.

I'd never heard that before but it's very plausible.
Of course, heat is a major cause of power supply problems ;)
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OT Lavatory humour

[mike wilson]

Indian rhapsody

Naan, just killed a man 
Papadum against his head 
Had lime pickle now he's dead. 
Naan, dinner's just begun 
But now I'm gonna throw it all away. 
Naan, ooh, ooh Didn't mean to make you cry 
If I'm not back from the loo this time tomorrow 
Curry on, curry on 
Cause nothing really Madras .. 
Too late, my dinner's gone 
Sends shivers down my spine 
Bottom aching all the time 
Goodbye onion bhaji, I've got to go 
Gotta leave you all behind and use the loo. 
Naan, ooh, ooh 
This dopiaza is so mild 
I sometimes wish we'd never come here at all. 

[guitar solo] 

I see a little chicken tikka on the side 
Rogan Josh, Rogan Josh, pass the chutney made of mango 
Vindaloo does nicely Very very spicy 
Meat! 
Byriani (Byriani) 
Byriani (Byriani) 
Byriani and a naan 
(A vindaloo loo loo loo) 
I've eaten balti, somebody help me 
He's eaten balti, get him to the lavatory 
Stand you well back 
'Case the loo is quarantined... 
Here it comes 
There it goes 
Technicolor yawn 
I chunder 
No! 
It's coming up again 
(There he goes) 
I chunder, it's coming back again 
(There he goes) 
Coming back again 
(up again) 
Here it comes again. 
(No no no no no no NO) 
On my knees, I'm on my knees 
On his knees, Oh, there he goes 
This vindaloo 
Is about to wreck my guts 
Poor meee.. poor m...poor MEE! 

[guitar solo] 

So you think you can chunder and then feel alright? 
So you try to eat curry and drink beer all night? 
Oh maybe, but now you'll puke like a baby 
Just had to come out 
It just had to come right out in here. 

[guitar solo] 

[slow bit] 
Korma or dopiaza 
bhaji, naan or saag 
Nothing makes a difference 
Nothing makes a difference 
To meee 
(Any way the wind blowsshshshs)


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Re: OT DVD RAM

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 07:26:15 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
> 
> On 18.06.2007, at 23:42 , mike wilson wrote:
> 
> > I bought a DVD recorder which came with some DVD RAM discs, which I
> > understand are re-recordable.
> >
> > Having used some of them once I now want to re-use them.  They will  
> > not
> > automatically record over what is on them but I can't see any way of
> > formatting them in the DVD recorder.  My computer DVD drive does not
> > recognise them.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> Mike, there is usually an option to erase each title somewhere in  
> menu of the recorder. At least it is done that way in my Panasonic  
> DVD recorder. But you should have an option to format entire DVD-RAM  
> disc also, just you have to check all menu options once again :-)

That's my plan for this evening. 8-(  I've had quite a good look but there 
does not seem to be any "erase" or "format" option.

On another topic entirely, will be in Polska from 13th to 24th august.  I have 
a small but beautifully appointed apartment in Krakow, with spare beds, if 
anyone wishes to visit.  The weekend in the middle is already taken, so if you 
turn up then it's the floor or a bench in the Planty.


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Re: OT DVD RAM

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 01:57:39 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT DVD RAM
> 
> I have a Panasonic DVD RAM drive in my computer which will also burn 
> DVD-R or DVD+R and also CDR and CDRW..The RAM disc is just like a 5 
> 1/4 optical drive, meaning you can erase it over and overJoe

Thanks for the replies.  I will try a blank RAM disk in the computer tonight to 
see if it will recognise an empty one.  When it doesn't I'll go and buy some 
blank disks. 8-) Anyone want DVDs of the British Superbike and MotoGP to date?

> 
> 
> 
> At 06:20 PM 6/18/07, you wrote:
> >On 18/06/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I bought a DVD recorder which came with some DVD RAM discs, which I
> > > understand are re-recordable.
> > >
> > > Having used some of them once I now want to re-use them.  They will not
> > > automatically record over what is on them but I can't see any way of
> > > formatting them in the DVD recorder.  My computer DVD drive does not
> > > recognise them.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> >
> >So far as I know normal DVD+R or -R drives often (always?) don't
> >recognise DVD-RAM discs. As to re-recording, my understanding is that
> >you just treat them like a normal hard disc, deleting files as normal,
> >or adding more. Some more info here:
> >http://tinyurl.com/d9xqa
> >
> >Eric.
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Re: A couple more photos

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/19 Tue AM 03:48:11 GMT
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: A couple more photos
> 
> I uploaded a few more photos, thoughts please...Thanks Joe
>   www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn
> 
> P.S. here is one you might like to look at 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6102225

It's ages since I've been to a Gurning competition.
http://images.google.com/images?q=+%22gurning%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&um=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title
(sorry, you might need to c&p that - I can't do tinyurl from work)


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Re: OT - YAY! More #*&$ing bike stuff

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/18 Mon PM 11:38:19 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: OT - YAY! More #*&$ing bike stuff
> 
> Never knew they made motor bikes/cycles. Any idea as to year of the bike?

It is almost identical to the allegedly 1930 model on the Wikipedia site.

> The first image gave it away to me as I saw the braided hose on the RH side.

No braided _hose_ on any motorcycle in 1930 that I can think of.  Many _cars_ 
still had cable/rod brakes.  That is part of the wiring harness.

> 
> Kenneth Waller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT - YAY! More #*&$ing bike stuff
> 
> 
> > frank theriault wrote:
> >>
> >> I've always wanted to own a Schwinn.  Not one like yours, but an
> >> old 1950's cruiser.  I remember seeing ads for Schwinns on
> >> Captain Kangaroo when I was a kid, and I wanted one - they were
> >> so exotic (we couldn't get them in Canada).
> >>
> >> I remember the Captain, intoning "prices slightly higher in the
> >> South and in the West..."  I don't know why, but that's always
> >> stuck in my mind, and I intone it to myself whenever I see a
> >> Schwinn.
> >
> > See if you can identify *this* Schwinn:
> > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/schwinn1.jpg
> >
> > Than look at an image of the whole bike:
> > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/schwinn2.jpg
> >
> > ;-)
> 
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Re: OT DVD RAM

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 18.06.2007, at 23:42 , mike wilson wrote:

> I bought a DVD recorder which came with some DVD RAM discs, which I
> understand are re-recordable.
>
> Having used some of them once I now want to re-use them.  They will  
> not
> automatically record over what is on them but I can't see any way of
> formatting them in the DVD recorder.  My computer DVD drive does not
> recognise them.
>
> Any suggestions?

Mike, there is usually an option to erase each title somewhere in  
menu of the recorder. At least it is done that way in my Panasonic  
DVD recorder. But you should have an option to format entire DVD-RAM  
disc also, just you have to check all menu options once again :-)

Cheers,
Sylwek



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Interesting thread on DA* prototype lenses

[Thibouille]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=23646674
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http://tinyurl.com/2xgg53

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