Re: PESOs - More Big Boy

2019-11-29 Thread Rick Womer
Very nicely done, John! The noise is much reduced too. Both are excellent 
photos.

Rick

> On Nov 26, 2019, at 10:39 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I took that "First Impression" image and toned down the security fence in the 
> foreground substantially. I'm calling it "Second Impression":
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130788902
> 
> Also the Big Boy under way west of Conway, AR with a "Full Head of Steam":
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130789237
> 
> I might still have one or two more from this trip that I'm willing to show.
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Re: PESOs - More Big Boy

2019-11-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Much improved!

Paul

> On Nov 26, 2019, at 10:40 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I took that "First Impression" image and toned down the security fence in 
> the foreground substantially. I'm calling it "Second Impression":
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130788902
> 
> Also the Big Boy under way west of Conway, AR with a "Full Head of Steam":
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130789237
> 
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Re: PESOs - More Big Boy

2019-11-27 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 27.11.19 um 04:39 schrieb John:

I took that "First Impression" image and toned down the security fence
in the foreground substantially. I'm calling it "Second Impression":

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130788902

Also the Big Boy under way west of Conway, AR with a "Full Head of Steam":

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130789237


Now, we're getting somewhere. Far better.

In the second one, you might want to selectvely de-saturate the blue
tint in the steam at the ground on the left and maybe bring up the
shadows a tad if this doesn't create too much noise.


I might still have one or two more from this trip that I'm willing to show.


Please do.

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PESOs - More Big Boy

2019-11-26 Thread John
I took that "First Impression" image and toned down the security fence in the 
foreground substantially. I'm calling it "Second Impression":


https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130788902

Also the Big Boy under way west of Conway, AR with a "Full Head of Steam":

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/49130789237

I might still have one or two more from this trip that I'm willing to show.

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Re: Peso Farm boy

2016-07-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> And determined he is.

and with cookie in hand.

> Nice catch

Thanks
> Jostein
>
> Den 29. juli 2016 20.51.43 CEST, skrev David J Brooks :
>>Heading off to the paddocks for a look see
>>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18267128
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Re: Peso Farm boy

2016-07-30 Thread Jostein Øksne
And determined he is.
Nice catch 
Jostein 

Den 29. juli 2016 20.51.43 CEST, skrev David J Brooks :
>Heading off to the paddocks for a look see
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18267128
>
>K-5 and DA L 55-300
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Re: Peso Farm boy

2016-07-29 Thread ann sanfedele

I almost, I say -almost- hinted that,  but settled for just "awww"

ann


On 7/29/2016 2:57 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Nice.
http://time.com/37534/into-the-light-w-eugene-smiths-walk-to-paradise-garden/




On 29 Jul 2016, at 19:54, David J Brooks  wrote:

Heading off to the paddocks for a look see

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18267128

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Re: Peso Farm boy

2016-07-29 Thread ann sanfedele

a

ann


On 7/29/2016 2:51 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Heading off to the paddocks for a look see

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18267128

K-5 and DA L 55-300

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Re: Peso Farm boy

2016-07-29 Thread David J Brooks
thanks Bob

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Nice.
> http://time.com/37534/into-the-light-w-eugene-smiths-walk-to-paradise-garden/
>
>
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>> On 29 Jul 2016, at 19:54, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>> Heading off to the paddocks for a look see
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18267128
>>
>> K-5 and DA L 55-300
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>> Dave
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Re: Peso Farm boy

2016-07-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
Nice.
http://time.com/37534/into-the-light-w-eugene-smiths-walk-to-paradise-garden/



> On 29 Jul 2016, at 19:54, David J Brooks  wrote:
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> Heading off to the paddocks for a look see
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Peso Farm boy

2016-07-29 Thread David J Brooks
Heading off to the paddocks for a look see

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18267128

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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-24 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like the backdrop you shot him against, Frank. Good one.


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> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>
> Which I did.
>
> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-24 Thread David J Brooks
seems happy enough, good portrait

Dave

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:45 PM, frank theriault
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> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>
> Which I did.
>
> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>
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>
> cheers,
>
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread frank theriault
Both in the sense that I could have nailed it better, plus his eyes
didn't seem to be focusing on me. Well perceived, Jack, thanks!

cheers,

frank

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> His eyes appear a bit unfocused.(?)
>
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> I think it is an effective portrait.  There is something quite sad in
> his expression.
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> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:45 PM, frank theriault
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>> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
>> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>>
>> Which I did.
>>
>> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
>> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
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>>
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread frank theriault
I thought there was a sadness in his eyes, too. Thanks, Dan.

cheers,

frank

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> I think it is an effective portrait.  There is something quite sad in
> his expression.
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> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:45 PM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
>> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>>
>> Which I did.
>>
>> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
>> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread frank theriault
Yeah. I think maybe I should have left it in colour. He was all red
around the eyes, nose and cheeks. It was not flattering but perhaps a
more accurate portrayal of his condition.

Thanks for the comment, Ann.

cheers,

frank


On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:20 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> If you had not said he was drunk I'd have said he was cute - another
> Sagitarian gone astray..
>
> ann
>
> On 12/22/2015 10:45 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
>> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>>
>> Which I did.
>>
>> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
>> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>>
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread Jack Davis
His eyes appear a bit unfocused.(?)

J

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I think it is an effective portrait.  There is something quite sad in
his expression.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:45 PM, frank theriault
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> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>
> Which I did.
>
> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
>
> frank
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think it is an effective portrait.  There is something quite sad in
his expression.

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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:45 PM, frank theriault
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> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>
> Which I did.
>
> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
>
> frank
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread ann sanfedele
If you had not said he was drunk I'd have said he was cute - another 
Sagitarian gone astray..


ann

On 12/22/2015 10:45 PM, frank theriault wrote:

This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"

Which I did.

He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

cheers,

frank





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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-23 Thread knarf
Thanks for the comment Paul. 

Cheers,

frank

On December 22, 2015 11:05:38 PM EST, Paul Stenquist  
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>His beard and mustache are well trimmed.
>
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>> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:45 PM, frank theriault
> wrote:
>> 
>> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store.
>He
>> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
>> 
>> Which I did.
>> 
>> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
>> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
>> 
>>
>http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> frank
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Re: PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
His beard and mustache are well trimmed.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:45 PM, frank theriault  
> wrote:
> 
> This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
> said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"
> 
> Which I did.
> 
> He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
> guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
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> 
> frank
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PESO - Birthday Boy - A Street Portrait

2015-12-22 Thread frank theriault
This fellow was walking along carrying a bag from the liquor store. He
said, "Today's my birthday, take my picture!"

Which I did.

He said, "20 years a drunk!" And it sounded like he was right. Poor
guy. I hope this photo does him some dignity:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/12/birthday-boy-street-portrait.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
Thanks Stan. I've got a lot of lolling about shots too. My dad was a
pretty good photographer, but action shots were not his speciality. He
got it just right on this one though.

Chris

On 27 May 2014 20:04, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> Very nice shot Chris - thanks for sharing. Looks like you are in perfect 
> position coming out of that corner!
>
> I think all of the old action shots of me with my bike show me actively 
> lolling about at rest stops and at the end of long rides. Now I am going to 
> have to go have a look.
>
> stan
>
> On May 26, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>
>> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
>> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
>> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>>
>> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
>> all sorts of family shots.
>>
>> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
>> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
>> lost classic...
>>
>> Chris
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
Thanks Dave. I couldn't do it now - was fearless then...

Chris

On 27 May 2014 06:40, David Mann  wrote:
> On May 27, 2014, at 6:34 am, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>
>> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
>> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
>> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>
> Awesome.  Good photo.
>
> I don't like riding in a bunch.  Can't stand being unable to see the road 
> ahead.
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
Thanks Christine. Still just as long, but not so lean now...

Chris

On 27 May 2014 05:55, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> I new it was you in the blue cap. I looked for the chap with the long, lean 
> legs!  Nice one!  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> On May 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>
>> Should have said, that's me in the blue cap.
>> CM
>>
>> On 26 May 2014 19:34, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>>> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
>>> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
>>> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>>>
>>> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
>>> all sorts of family shots.
>>>
>>> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
>>> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
>>> lost classic...
>>>
>>> Chris
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
Very nice shot Chris - thanks for sharing. Looks like you are in perfect 
position coming out of that corner! 

I think all of the old action shots of me with my bike show me actively lolling 
about at rest stops and at the end of long rides. Now I am going to have to go 
have a look.

stan

On May 26, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
> 
> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
> all sorts of family shots.
> 
> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
> lost classic...
> 
> Chris


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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Mitchell
> i notice all those frames are a little more stretched out than today's
> typical road frames, more like a touring bike — that's the kind of frame i
> like to ride

Thanks Steve. Yes, it would have made a good touring bike. Would have
saved me from spending a fortune at Chas Roberts's emporium when I
returned to cycling in late middle age!
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-26 12:34 Chris Mitchell wrote

A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg


interesting, and well-photographed


If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
lost classic...


i notice all those frames are a little more stretched out than today's typical 
road frames, more like a touring bike — that's the kind of frame i like to ride


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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Mitchell
Yep. He knew what he was doing. I learnt a lot from him.
Chris

On 26 May 2014 21:35, mike wilson  wrote:
> From what I can see on the web image, he nailed the focus.  Impressive.
>
> On 26/05/2014, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
>> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
>> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>>
>> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
>> all sorts of family shots.
>>
>> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
>> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
>> lost classic...
>>
>> Chris
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread David Mann
On May 27, 2014, at 6:34 am, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg

Awesome.  Good photo.

I don't like riding in a bunch.  Can't stand being unable to see the road ahead.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread Christine Aguila
I new it was you in the blue cap. I looked for the chap with the long, lean 
legs!  Nice one!  Cheers, Christine


On May 26, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> Should have said, that's me in the blue cap.
> CM
> 
> On 26 May 2014 19:34, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
>> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
>> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>> 
>> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
>> all sorts of family shots.
>> 
>> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
>> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
>> lost classic...
>> 
>> Chris
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/5/14, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
>Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
>http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg

Lovely shot! Memories..

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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread mike wilson
>From what I can see on the web image, he nailed the focus.  Impressive.

On 26/05/2014, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>
> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
> all sorts of family shots.
>
> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
> lost classic...
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> Chris
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Re: PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Mitchell
Should have said, that's me in the blue cap.
CM

On 26 May 2014 19:34, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
> Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
> http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg
>
> We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
> all sorts of family shots.
>
> If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
> made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
> lost classic...
>
> Chris

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PESO: Boy Racer (Bike and Pentax content too!)

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Mitchell
A picture of me road racing at the age of 17. Taken by my dad on his
Spotmatic, on Ilford slide film:
http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/RoadRace.jpg

We had a wet bank holiday weekend, so I spent a happy weekend scanning
all sorts of family shots.

If only I'd had the presence of mind to keep that bike. The frame was
made by a local Southampton maker, no longer around of course. Another
lost classic...

Chris

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Re: PESO: Boy Flower

2014-02-06 Thread knarf
Perhaps they should call them "man flower"?

Nice photo, Dan.

Cheers,
frank

On 6 February, 2014 12:45:58 AM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>Hmm. I wonder why. :-)
>
>Godfrey
>
>
>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:33 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola"
> wrote:
>> 
>> That is what they are called here in Hawai'i
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667161
>> Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Boy Flower

2014-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. I wonder why. :-)

Godfrey


> On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:33 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> That is what they are called here in Hawai'i
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667161
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PESO: Boy Flower

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is what they are called here in Hawai'i
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667161
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-03 Thread knarf
Yeah, I kinda felt the same way. Cluttered but it somehow worked. And I 
normally wouldn't have put the subject on that side of the page, but again, it 
just worked to my eye.

Thanks for commenting and thanks to all who looked.

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Walker  wrote:
>An intriguing portrait, Frank. I usually prefer unbusy, but there's a
>lot of interesting stuff going on and your composition is good -- I
>like it.
>
>On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:21 AM, knarf 
>wrote:
>> We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.
>>
>> Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his
>race face on:
>>
>> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>>
>> He didn't win.  ;-)
>>
>> But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments
>welcome.
>>
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-03 Thread knarf
Well, I don't know if it's good that a photo needs to he deciphered.  ;-)

Thanks for your comment! Much appreciated. 

Cheers,
frank

Mark C  wrote:
>Nice shot - it reminds me of an old photo you might in a shoe box and 
>spend some time trying to decipher.
>
>On 1/31/2014 7:21 AM, knarf wrote:
>> We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.
>>
>> Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his
>race face on:
>>
>> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>>
>> He didn't win.  ;-)
>>
>> But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments
>welcome.
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>> Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
Nice shot - it reminds me of an old photo you might in a shoe box and 
spend some time trying to decipher.


On 1/31/2014 7:21 AM, knarf wrote:

We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-01 Thread Bruce Walker
An intriguing portrait, Frank. I usually prefer unbusy, but there's a
lot of interesting stuff going on and your composition is good -- I
like it.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:21 AM, knarf  wrote:
> We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.
>
> Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race 
> face on:
>
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>
> He didn't win.  ;-)
>
> But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.
>
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-01 Thread knarf
Thanks Jack!

Yeah, Matt didn't exactly "pose" in the most photogenic spot, did he. But hey, 
that's the environment he was in, what can I say?

Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank

Jack Davis  wrote:
>Those racing pits are mess. HA!
>Matt looks as though he feels clever and confident.
>Like it, Frank.
>
>Jack
>
>
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>We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. 
>
>Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his
>race face on:
>
>http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>
>He didn't win.  ;-)
>
>But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Those racing pits are mess. HA!
Matt looks as though he feels clever and confident.
Like it, Frank.

Jack




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Subject: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. 

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

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PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-01-31 Thread knarf
We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. 

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread David Mann
On Oct 12, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> I have the A* 300 f4 and have to say that while it can be very good, it falls 
> short of being a truly excellent lens. It also falls short in the close focus 
> department. (Or maybe that should be that it falls long in the close focus 
> department.)

The F* or FA* 300mm f/4.5 is the one you want.  Focus down to 2m and so sharp 
you'll cut yourself.

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Mark C
Well, I just did some test framings (never actually pushed the shutter 
button) in my dining room with the A* 300 f4. It's a jewel of a lens in 
terms of build and cosmetics, that's for sure, but the 4 meter / 13 foot 
minimum focusing distance is still a challenge. While i have hung onto 
this lens for years, I almost never use it. For smaller birds and 
wildlife you either have to be stealthy and get close,  or use a longer 
telephoto to put you out of the circle of fear. It is best o get close, 
because then you do not have haze and other atmospheric distortions that 
degrade long distnace / mega telephoto shot, but getting close can be a 
lot of work. For a 300mm, for small birds (e.g. finches) or small 
mammals (e.g. chipmunks) tha tmeans being 10 to 6 feet away. A blind, 
bait, or invisibility cloak is probably needed, but  it can be done with 
a little effort.  In its day, the 13 minimum focusing distance would 
probably have been considered to be quite close, and one can always  use 
extension tubes or close up diopters, but a closed focus distance would 
be more desirable IMO.   The minimum focusing distance of the A* 300 f4 
would be fine for larger subjects - deer, bears, athletes, etc... and on 
an APCS-C body it would probably be fine.


I should probably use my sample more...

Mark

On 10/11/2013 10:39 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

The M* and A* 300mm f4 lenses were the smallest and lightest of their
class and three of the front 4 elements in the front group are ED
glass. It was, I believe, before Internal Focusing had come into use.
In optical design, something has to give, and the Pentax optical
designers decided (wisely I think) to sacrifice close focusing,
probably thinking that someone who uses a 300mm lens is probably not
buying it to focus on something 10 feet away. In any event, closer
focus CAN be achieved, if one truly wants it, through extension tubes
(though at the sacrifice of the infinity end of the scale). I believe
those lenses were also sold before the age of "APO" lenses, though the
M* and A* would probably be classed as near-APO.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Mark C  wrote:

I have the A* 300 f4 and have to say that while it can be very good, it
falls short of being a truly excellent lens. It also falls short in the
close focus department. (Or maybe that should be that it falls long in the
close focus department.) I use the 1.7x converter on an A*400 f2.8  and it
is a tremendous help, but the AF range is fairly limited, not like a true AF
lens, in my experience - it needs to be pre focused to a fairly narrow
tolerance. But, the AF adapter is still better than my eyesight for fast
focusing.

Mark


On 10/11/2013 5:24 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

There's a big difference in optical capabilities between these three
lenses, the 300/4 variants are positively soft compared to the
A300/2.8, having owned and used both. I still have the A300/2.8 which
although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.

On 12 October 2013 02:21, P.J. Alling  wrote:

And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little
over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel
for
carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0,
(available
at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a big heavy
beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering size weight
and
cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...

Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with
you.


On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
baby:
Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8



http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/


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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Darren Addy
The M* and A* 300mm f4 lenses were the smallest and lightest of their
class and three of the front 4 elements in the front group are ED
glass. It was, I believe, before Internal Focusing had come into use.
In optical design, something has to give, and the Pentax optical
designers decided (wisely I think) to sacrifice close focusing,
probably thinking that someone who uses a 300mm lens is probably not
buying it to focus on something 10 feet away. In any event, closer
focus CAN be achieved, if one truly wants it, through extension tubes
(though at the sacrifice of the infinity end of the scale). I believe
those lenses were also sold before the age of "APO" lenses, though the
M* and A* would probably be classed as near-APO.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I have the A* 300 f4 and have to say that while it can be very good, it
> falls short of being a truly excellent lens. It also falls short in the
> close focus department. (Or maybe that should be that it falls long in the
> close focus department.) I use the 1.7x converter on an A*400 f2.8  and it
> is a tremendous help, but the AF range is fairly limited, not like a true AF
> lens, in my experience - it needs to be pre focused to a fairly narrow
> tolerance. But, the AF adapter is still better than my eyesight for fast
> focusing.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 10/11/2013 5:24 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> There's a big difference in optical capabilities between these three
>> lenses, the 300/4 variants are positively soft compared to the
>> A300/2.8, having owned and used both. I still have the A300/2.8 which
>> although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
>> and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.
>>
>> On 12 October 2013 02:21, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>>>
>>> And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little
>>> over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel
>>> for
>>> carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0,
>>> (available
>>> at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a big heavy
>>> beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering size weight
>>> and
>>> cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...
>>>
>>> Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with
>>> you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

 If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
 baby:
 Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8



 http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

 http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Mark C
I have the A* 300 f4 and have to say that while it can be very good, it 
falls short of being a truly excellent lens. It also falls short in the 
close focus department. (Or maybe that should be that it falls long in 
the close focus department.) I use the 1.7x converter on an A*400 f2.8  
and it is a tremendous help, but the AF range is fairly limited, not 
like a true AF lens, in my experience - it needs to be pre focused to a 
fairly narrow tolerance. But, the AF adapter is still better than my 
eyesight for fast focusing.


Mark

On 10/11/2013 5:24 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

There's a big difference in optical capabilities between these three
lenses, the 300/4 variants are positively soft compared to the
A300/2.8, having owned and used both. I still have the A300/2.8 which
although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.

On 12 October 2013 02:21, P.J. Alling  wrote:

And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little
over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel for
carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0, (available
at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a big heavy
beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering size weight and
cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...

Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with
you.


On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
baby:
Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8


http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/



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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 08:24:06AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote:
> [ . . . . ] I still have the A300/2.8 which
> although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
> and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.

That's about what I posted while Doug wasn't accepting submissions.


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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 02:30:53PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 08:24:06AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote:
> > There's a big difference in optical capabilities between these three
> > lenses, the 300/4 variants are positively soft compared to the
> > A300/2.8, having owned and used both. I still have the A300/2.8 which
> > although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
> > and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.
> 
> I think John Francis has that setup.

Yep.  And it does, indeed, work splendidly for sports photography.

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 October 2013 08:30, Larry Colen  wrote:

> I know that the A* 200/2.8 is a wonderful lens, and am curious how the
> DA* 200/2.8 compares optically.

I would be interested too, the FA*200/2.8 is a slightly better lens
than the A*200/2.8 too, from what I gather the FA and DA lenses are
similar performers.

> Meanwhile, money I'll spend on the repairs I'm doing on one of my sheds
> would probably pay for just about every Pentax lens on my current wish
> list, as well as a K-3.  Or even buy me a 645D, and a nice set of lenses
> for it.
>
> sigh.

Damn, I can sympathise with your pain there, I could have bought a
nice new full Nikon FF kit for the money that I've recently spent on
property maintenance. :(

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 08:24:06AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote:
> There's a big difference in optical capabilities between these three
> lenses, the 300/4 variants are positively soft compared to the
> A300/2.8, having owned and used both. I still have the A300/2.8 which
> although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
> and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.

I think John Francis has that setup.

I know that the A* 200/2.8 is a wonderful lens, and am curious how the 
DA* 200/2.8 compares optically.

Meanwhile, money I'll spend on the repairs I'm doing on one of my sheds 
would probably pay for just about every Pentax lens on my current wish
list, as well as a K-3.  Or even buy me a 645D, and a nice set of lenses
for it.

sigh.

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Rob Studdert
There's a big difference in optical capabilities between these three
lenses, the 300/4 variants are positively soft compared to the
A300/2.8, having owned and used both. I still have the A300/2.8 which
although unwieldy is a great lens when you need the speed and reach
and combined with the 1.7AF TC it becomes an excellent AF combo.

On 12 October 2013 02:21, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little
> over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel for
> carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0, (available
> at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a big heavy
> beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering size weight and
> cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...
>
> Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with
> you.
>
>
> On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
>> baby:
>> Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8
>>
>>
>> http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE
>>
>> http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/
>>
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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread P.J. Alling
Even on the sidelines at a sporting event I'll take the 1 stop hit, save 
my back a little and take the f4.0.  So the other shooters with the f2.8 
glass will laugh and point at me, when they're in traction, I'll visit 
them at the hospital.


On 10/11/2013 11:26 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

It depends what you are into. With its ED glass and internal focusing
it would make a super astrophotography lens and it would be best
mounted to a German Equatorial Mount or onto a telescope with a driven
fork mount. It would also be great with a monopod or tripod on the
sideline of a sporting event.

And I've now GOT the M*.
:)



On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:21 AM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:

And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little
over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel for
carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0, (available
at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a big heavy
beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering size weight and
cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...

Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with
you.


On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
baby:
Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8


http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/



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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote:

>If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad baby:
>Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8
>
>http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

Good price, too (if it's in good condition).
 
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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Darren Addy
It depends what you are into. With its ED glass and internal focusing
it would make a super astrophotography lens and it would be best
mounted to a German Equatorial Mount or onto a telescope with a driven
fork mount. It would also be great with a monopod or tripod on the
sideline of a sporting event.

And I've now GOT the M*.
:)



On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:21 AM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little
> over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel for
> carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0, (available
> at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a big heavy
> beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering size weight and
> cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...
>
> Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with
> you.
>
>
> On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
>> baby:
>> Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8
>>
>>
>> http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE
>>
>> http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/
>>
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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread P.J. Alling
And for a little over 1/5th of that price have the A*300 4.0 or a little 
over 1/6 the M* when they're available, and if you really want the feel 
for carrying around f2.8 long glass you can get the [K} 300mm f4.0, 
(available at KEH for less than 1/10 the price, which even though it's a 
big heavy beast is still half the weight of the A* 2.8.  Considering 
size weight and cost, which lens am I more likely to haul around with me...


Bottom line you don't take many pictures with a lens you don't have with 
you.


On 10/11/2013 8:47 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad baby:
Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8

http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread mike wilson
On 11/10/2013, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:09 AM, mike wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> Flickr is fornicated to extinction if it thinks that this was taken
>> with a 300mm:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tempete_de_pixel/5601521256/
>
> Flickr doesn't "think" that. It's a keyword search. The person who
> uploaded it applied that keyword in error.

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Zos Xavius
excuse me. i need to wipe up some drool.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad baby:
> Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8
>
> http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/
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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:09 AM, mike wilson  wrote:

> Flickr is fornicated to extinction if it thinks that this was taken
> with a 300mm:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tempete_de_pixel/5601521256/

Flickr doesn't "think" that. It's a keyword search. The person who
uploaded it applied that keyword in error.

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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Darren Addy
Clearly true. However, Flickr doesn't make this stuff up. It reads the
tags assigned to the image. If somebody is lazy with their copy &
paste (or for some other reason is not accurate in the use of their
tags) then you are going to get incorrect results. That image has a
"smc P-A 300mm F2.8 ED (IF)" tag. Garbage in - garbage out.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:09 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> On 11/10/2013, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
>> baby:
>> Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8
>>
>> http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE
>>
>> http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/
>
> Flickr is fornicated to extinction if it thinks that this was taken
> with a 300mm:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tempete_de_pixel/5601521256/
>
> As with most of the other pics in that "river".  Luckily, I can only
> see it at work
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Re: Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread mike wilson
On 11/10/2013, Darren Addy  wrote:
> If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad
> baby:
> Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8
>
> http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/

Flickr is fornicated to extinction if it thinks that this was taken
with a 300mm:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tempete_de_pixel/5601521256/

As with most of the other pics in that "river".  Luckily, I can only
see it at work

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Oooooooooh. KEH has a "big boy" lens

2013-10-11 Thread Darren Addy
If I had the discretionary income I would discreetly purchase this bad baby:
Pentax-A* 300mm f2.8

http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK060090145530?r=FE

http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpa300mmf28edif/

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-28 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Steve Cottrell :


On 26/6/13, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


he comes from the land down under


Poor Bill, when was he sent to Hell?



That's a low blow.

Don't we have enough problems with our cricket team without you  
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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very nice work, very creative!


-Original Message-
>From: Doug Brewer 
>Subject: local boy does good
>
>Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is 
>gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters 
>using his daughter as model.
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>Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/
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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/6/13, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>he comes from the land down under

Poor Bill, when was he sent to Hell?

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-27 Thread Christine Aguila
I've been following him on Google+ and greatly admired his work but had no idea 
he was a PDMLer!  What fun!  Lovely work and his daughter is as cute as they 
come.  Cheers, Christine



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> daughter as model.
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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

woo - those are stunning!
ann



On 6/26/2013 09:21, Doug Brewer wrote:

Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is
gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters
using his daughter as model.

Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/



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RE: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Brewer

Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is
gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters
using his daughter as model.

Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/


Mostly nice, some outright adorable.

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Doug Brewer

On 6/26/13 10:40 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Stunning work! Blows me away!

Is he Dutch?

Thanks for the link, Doug!

cheers,
frank


he comes from the land down under


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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Doug Brewer

On 6/26/13 10:30 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Beautiful and very skilful stuff -- I love it! Thanks for pointing it out, Doug.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is
gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters
using his daughter as model.

Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/


He has a sizable presence on G+, for those of you who are there.

We have had some interaction there, and this morning he sent me a 
message that he finally figured out where he new me from. Right, the 
PDML. Thus my post to the list.



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RE: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Stunning work! Blows me away!

Is he Dutch?

Thanks for the link, Doug!

cheers,
frank

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Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is 
gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters 
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Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Beautiful and very skilful stuff -- I love it! Thanks for pointing it out, Doug.

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Jack Davis
Also a great relationship with his model.
 
Jack


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Subject: Re: local boy does good 

Like real good.
But the lesson here is quite simple: Control everything.  Light and pose.
Of course the costume, but that hides where the real work was done.
It is also not that it's really hard to do, but it does take significant
preparation time to design what you want, often on paper first, and then put
the plan into action.
Sort of like sports but much more fun, imo.
It's all very beautifully done.


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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Jack Davis
What a magnificently successful effort ! 
I detect a beautiful relationship between Mr Gekas and his daughter.
 
Jack
 


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Subject: local boy does good

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> Thanks Doug - great work there!
> 
> If you haven't already followed Doug's link, I suggest the following:
> Go there, slowly appreciate the fine photography (and great costuming!) In 
> addition, be aware that 5-6 of the shots are with the 645D, the others with a 
> K-5. Can you tell which are which?

Didn't try but I would guess not, since these are sized for the web and viewed 
at 72 ppi,regardless of how they were shot. 


> (The answer is in his blog which you can link to from the gallery.)
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
>> Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is 
>> gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters 
>> using his daughter as model.
>> 
>> Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/
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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great work. Thanks for sharing.

Paul
On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

> Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is gaining 
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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Doug,
Great images.  An Ozzie Dutchman, I'd say.
And his latest Blog post has a bit on the 645D.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread CollinB
Like real good.
But the lesson here is quite simple: Control everything.  Light and pose.
Of course the costume, but that hides where the real work was done.
It is also not that it's really hard to do, but it does take significant
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Sort of like sports but much more fun, imo.
It's all very beautifully done.


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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Doug - great work there!

If you haven't already followed Doug's link, I suggest the following:
Go there, slowly appreciate the fine photography (and great costuming!) In 
addition, be aware that 5-6 of the shots are with the 645D, the others with a 
K-5. Can you tell which are which?
(The answer is in his blog which you can link to from the gallery.)

stan

On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

> Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is gaining 
> a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters using his 
> daughter as model.
> 
> Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/
> 


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local boy does good

2013-06-26 Thread Doug Brewer
Former--and as we all know, forever--member of the PDML Bill Gekas is 
gaining a huge wave of success re-imagining the works of the Old Masters 
using his daughter as model.


Check him out at http://www.billgekas.com/

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OT, feelgood photos of a crippled boy

2013-04-22 Thread Larry Colen
Clever series of photos:
http://www.grindtv.com/lifestyle/in-style/post/stricken-boys-dream-comes-true-thanks-to-clever-photographer/

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-16 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert
>
>>
>> From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise
>> relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:
>>
>> "There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
>> than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
>> software."
>>
>> "If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
>> much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few days."
>>
>> http://www.kenwell.com/tech/8mm-f35.htm#perf
>>
>
> I agree with Kenny! Fisheyes are (mostly) gimmicks, like star-burst filters.
>
> B

Awww, you're being too harsh on SBFs, Bob. They're totally rad for all
those shots involving women in leg-warmers, brightly coloured leotards
and huge hair, all lit by candles.

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Rob, I recently had an interesting experience where I took my time and 
spent the effort to understand the reasoning behind certain person's 
sayings on the certain forum. I must say that in this very specific 
case, although considered pretty much a clown, this guy was talking 
quite sensible things, even if his wording was not very good. But having 
understood him, I agreed with him, because his logic was actually in 
line with my notions...


Specifically in this case - I've had FA 17-28 fish eye zoom by Pentax 
and indeed after a short while I lost my interest in it. That is not to 
say that everyone should "suffer the same fate" as I did, but do agree 
with me that I could have my reasons to agree with general notion of 
K.R.'s words here...




On 2/15/2013 8:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise

relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:

"There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
software."

"If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few
days."

http://www.kenwell.com/tech/8mm-f35.htm#perf

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-16 Thread mike wilson

On 16/02/2013 06:12, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bill :


On 15/02/2013 12:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise
relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:

"There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
software."

"If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few
days."

I can't say I disagree overly with him on that. I suspect a friend
told him this, it's not like Kenny to come up with any real pearls of
wisdom.



Kenny Boy.

Friends?


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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bill :


On 15/02/2013 12:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise
relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:

"There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
software."

"If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few
days."
I can't say I disagree overly with him on that. I suspect a friend  
told him this, it's not like Kenny to come up with any real pearls  
of wisdom.



Kenny Boy.

Friends?



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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:28 , Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>>
>>> So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses
>>> particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are
>>> mostly just hot-air.
>>
>> It would have been funnier if you'd said "ALL sweeping generalizations..."
>
> Godfrey never understands humor.

Thank you for the vote of confidence, Larry.
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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Jack Davis
It's compellingly orgasmic!
 
Jack

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>it's easy to jeer at Ken

Yes. Yes it is.

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 February 2013 09:26, Bob W  wrote:

> "Changer à tout instant d'objectif photographique, c'est comme changer à
> tout instant de lunettes"
> --- Robert Bresson (sounding remarkably like Henri Cartier-of that ilk)

For a certain limited style of photography that may indeed be applicable.

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RE: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert
[...]
> If a photographer can't see the
> potential and scope that a FE lens affords then they probably just lack
> creativity or a sense of adventure. There's a sweeping generalization
> :)
> 

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tout instant de lunettes"
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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 February 2013 05:28, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I could care less what Ken Rockwell has to say as I don't follow his
> site or ramblings.
>
> Fish-eye lenses can be gimmicky and cliché when over-used, like any
> specialist optical effect. That said, I've licensed several images
> made with a fish-eye and even won an award or two with photos that
> were made using a fish-eye lens. I don't own one at present, but I've
> had several over the years and always enjoyed working with them.
>
> So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses
> particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are
> mostly just hot-air.

I've owned at least one A16/2.8 Fisheye lens since the mid 80's and
I've put them to use in all manner of creative ways not least in
natural landscape protographs where it's often near impossible to
perceive the inherent FE distortion due to the lack of regular
geometric references in the frame. If a photographer can't see the
potential and scope that a FE lens affords then they probably just
lack creativity or a sense of adventure. There's a sweeping
generalization :)

I could have used one on a shoot last night in fact.

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>it's easy to jeer at Ken

Yes. Yes it is.
 
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RE: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi
> 
> I could care less what Ken Rockwell has to say as I don't follow his
> site or ramblings.
> 
> Fish-eye lenses can be gimmicky and cliché when over-used, like any
> specialist optical effect. That said, I've licensed several images made
> with a fish-eye and even won an award or two with photos that were made
> using a fish-eye lens. I don't own one at present, but I've had several
> over the years and always enjoyed working with them.
> 
> So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses
> particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are
> mostly just hot-air.
> 

I'll have my legal team write in some exceptions, caveats and overriding
clauses for you next time, and get Doug's legal team to consult yours before
it actually escapes into the public realm.

B


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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Larry Colen

> From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise
> relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:
>
> "There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
> than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
> software."
>
> "If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
> much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few
> days."
>
> http://www.kenwell.com/tech/8mm-f35.htm#perf

I bought my 8/3.5 on the assumption that it was the photographic
equivalent of a bag of cheeto's. Optical junk food, enjoyable on occasion,
but not a staple part of healthy diet.

To my surprise, it is proving to be far more useful than I ever imagined. 
I would say that if there is any one thing that defines my personal style,
it is tight framing.  I've found that the easiest way to get a good photo
is not to put more good stuff in, but to take out anything that isn't
good.  So, I'll use a narrower field of view and include as few extraneous
details as I can.

As such, a fisheye is exactly not the lens that fits my shooting style. 
So, when I got my fisheye, I figured I'd play with it for a few days, have
fun, and it would be on hand for the rare occasions when it is what I
need. I've been surprised over the past couple of weeks by how frequently
those rare occasions come up.

There is certainly a lot to learn about using such a wide lens.  It
includes a huge amount of background, but things are often so small at any
distance, that they are more background color than compositional elements.
If something is very close, particularly at the edge of the frame, you'll
get the wild fisheye distortion, but further away, particularly toward the
center of the frame, they look normal, just like using a mild wide angle
on a smaller sensor (go figure).

I think that a fisheye lens is like HDR, they are both easy to
spectacularly misuse, but can be extremely useful in the proper
circumstances.


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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Larry Colen

> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:28 , Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>
>> So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses
>> particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are
>> mostly just hot-air.
>>
>
> It would have been funnier if you'd said "ALL sweeping generalizations..."

Godfrey never understands humor.


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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:28 , Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses
> particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are
> mostly just hot-air.
> 

It would have been funnier if you'd said "ALL sweeping generalizations..."

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I could care less what Ken Rockwell has to say as I don't follow his
site or ramblings.

Fish-eye lenses can be gimmicky and cliché when over-used, like any
specialist optical effect. That said, I've licensed several images
made with a fish-eye and even won an award or two with photos that
were made using a fish-eye lens. I don't own one at present, but I've
had several over the years and always enjoyed working with them.

So it's easy to jeer at Ken, and you might not find fish-eye lenses
particularly to your taste, but as usual sweeping generalizations are
mostly just hot-air.

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Bill

On 15/02/2013 12:46 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise
relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:

"There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
software."

"If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few
days."
I can't say I disagree overly with him on that. I suspect a friend told 
him this, it's not like Kenny to come up with any real pearls of wisdom.

bill

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Re: OT Some Jewels of wisdom from Kenny Boy

2013-02-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 2/15/2013 02:32, Bob W wrote:

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert

>>

 From his review of the Samyang 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye, which is otherwise
relatively informative (yes I know, smack), then this:

"There really isn't anything useful you can do with a fisheye, other
than use the images as a basis for tweaking back to straight with
software."

"If you're going to buy a fisheye, it doesn't make much sense to spend
much money on it, since you'll probably get tired of it in a few days."

http://www.kenwell.com/tech/8mm-f35.htm#perf



I agree with Kenny! Fisheyes are (mostly) gimmicks, like star-burst filters.

B

Gasp, I agree about that too! Of course, agreeing with Bob is easy - 
Kenny Boy, um, not so much


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