Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
Did I? I have an Apple computer I use occasionally. I mainly use Windoze because I can build my own. Due to familiarity, I do find Windoze computers easier to use than using a Mac. If I used a Mac all the time and seldom used Windoze, I'd find the Mac easier to use. I know I don't want an iPhone. Don't want an Android phone either. Nor a Windoze phone. Or any kind of smart phone. I've already got a phone that allows me to do everything I want to do with a phone. Got that covered. I'm thinking about a small pad I can use to show my photos when I get together with other photographers at a weekly brunch. New iPads are likely out of my price range, but an older one might work if it has USB and/or SDHC. I've noticed *all* of the current pad offerings only have micro-SDHC. And I'm resigned that any kind of pad I get is going to have a touch screen, even though I came to loathe them when I was running the mini-lab. I had the same aggravation continuously having to clean grubby fingerprints off the glass on the scanner, and I hated that too. But I still bought one when I wanted to be able to scan medium/large format negatives/transparencies and old photos. On 10/13/2016 8:38 PM, John Francis wrote: Silly or not, the original poster had made it very clear that he didn't want an Apple product. As such, it seems more than a little pointless (or worse) to suggest that an iPad would be the right choice for him. He's entitled to his opinions, no matter how silly you think they might be. In my wife's case she was upgrading from a Kindle, and was able to transfer over all the apps that she'd purchased, so an Android tablet was the right choice for her. If I get a modern tablet I'd probably go for an Android, too - I've got an old ASUS Transformer I got as part of a project that I was working on, and we both have Android phones, so there's really not a lot of sense in considering switching to a different platform. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 07:18:05PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Odd. I judge products in respect to how much they can contribute to my business and photography, not on whether they mark me as a fan of any brand. The anti-apple thing seems more of a fan-boy cult than does the apple buyer group. All very silly, IMO. Paul via phone On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:10 PM, John Franciswrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. I think I'd prefer the squirrel. The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all but impossible to pry it out of her hands. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On 10/14/2016 1:38 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: And for the record, always go red squirrel - even though the bristles on the greys are better... My little buddy was a brown, and as big as a smallish cat. Word on the street is it was a squirrel mafia hit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
I ditched my iPhone about a year ago for a BlackBerry Classic and haven't looked back :-) No nagging update messages, it does everything I need a phone to do (calls, texts, email and some web). I have an iPad Mini 2 for other stuff and it works just fine for what I need a bigger screen for (navigating, banking, music, pics, web etc). And the MacBook Pro for the big stuff. The BB syncs all my contacts and dates with the other devices really well and has loads of things an iPhone doesn't, like *expandable memory* (holy mackerel) and a real tactile keyboard. Going from Palms to iPhone in 2007 I didn't realise how much I disliked a virtual keyboard until I left it behind. And for the record, always go red squirrel - even though the bristles on the greys are better... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > That's an amazing bargain. I'll have to have a look. My wife had a Lenovo > notebook that died in a matter of months, but that was quite a few years > ago. For the last few years of her life she had an Airbook. Pricey but > bullet proof. Grace has it now. I use it mainly as my ebook reader (with the Kindle app) - it's about the same size as a dedicated Kindle reader. It also serves as a sat nav unit when travelling, a remote shutter release for my E-M10 and lots of other users. I paid $A99 so it should be even less in $US. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Brian Walterswrote: > > > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016, at 10:10 AM, John Francis wrote: > >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > >>> On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>> > Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy > Tab (not the phone) right now. > >>> > >>> I think I'd prefer the squirrel. > >> > >> The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't > >> want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all > >> but impossible to pry it out of her hands. > > > > > > My wife has one too. Loves it. > > > > I have an older Galexy Note 10.1 which is also great and recently bought > > a Lenovo Tab 2 A7-20 because I wanted something a bit smaller for > > carting around in my camera bag. Cost less than 100 bucks and is simply > > amazing! I'm yet to find any app that wont run on it. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > ++ > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney Australia > > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
I hate autocorrect. Not "company," Compaq. Not "synchro," synched. Paul via phone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Paul Stenquistwrote: > > I agree about the phones My first smart phone was an android and it was just > fine. I went to iPhone because it synchro nicely with my computers. My iMac > is trouble free and a great workhorse, but I've been on Macs forever and > Apple IIs before that, so the user interface philosophy is ingrained. If I > had been bred on PCs it might seem foreign, But when I bought my first > computer there was no such thing as a PC. It was Apple, Atari, TRS 80, > Company, Osborn or another of that ilk. Apple was costly but a no brainer in > terms of quality and capability. The capability was provided by software > vendors. In my case, Quark and Word Juggler. > > Paul via phone > >>> On Oct 13, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Bill wrote: >>> >>> On 10/13/2016 5:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> Odd. I judge products in respect to how much they can contribute to >>> my business and photography, not on whether they mark me as a fan of >>> any brand. The anti-apple thing seems more of a fan-boy cult than >>> does the apple buyer group. All very silly, IMO. >> >> My iPad literally would not work until I allowed myself to be assimilated by >> the collective. >> Do all Apple products do that or is it possible to buy an Apple product and >> actually maintain anonymity? >> >> That is actually a deal breaker for me regarding their products. >> >> My personal Android phone works just as well as the iPhone that my work gave >> me. Ops wise, there isn't really much to say about them one way or the other. >> >> >>> >>> Paul via phone >>> > On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:10 PM, John Francis wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a >> Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. > > I think I'd prefer the squirrel. The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all but impossible to pry it out of her hands. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
John Francis wrote: Silly or not, the original poster had made it very clear that he didn't want an Apple product. As such, it seems more than a little pointless (or worse) to suggest that an iPad would be the right choice for him. He's entitled to his opinions, no matter how silly you think they might be. In my wife's case she was upgrading from a Kindle, and was able to transfer over all the apps that she'd purchased, so an Android tablet was the right choice for her. If I get a modern tablet I'd probably go for an Android, too - I've got an old ASUS Transformer I got as part of a project that I was working on, and we both have Android phones, so there's really not a lot of sense in considering switching to a different platform. I've also got an ASUS transformer. It's actually my second one, my first one got crunched when something heavy got put on it. Oops. Ir's an older Android based one, and was available pretty cheaply used, on ebay or somesuch. It's nice in that it can be used as either a tablet, or as a rudimentary laptop. For me, having a real keyboard is a major plus. I bought my first one for showing photos, and it can work pretty well for that, although I'm not super thrilled with the photo display apps available. While I'm generally quite pleased with OSX, IOS has always hated me. It's one advantage is that there are many apps written for it, that are not available on android. However, as mentioned the transformer has slots for both micro SD and SD cards, which means that as long as you don't need to show everything all at once, it's storage is effectively unlimited, unlike apple products where you have to pay out the nose up front for any storage you might ever possibly want. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bill wrote: On 10/13/2016 3:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: But this one stands out: "But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple." Apparently too much Scotch will do that to you. French wine. And I'm really embarrassed. You can't fool us, it's well known that you had your sense of embarrassment surgically removed. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree about the phones My first smart phone was an android and it was just fine. I went to iPhone because it synchro nicely with my computers. My iMac is trouble free and a great workhorse, but I've been on Macs forever and Apple IIs before that, so the user interface philosophy is ingrained. If I had been bred on PCs it might seem foreign, But when I bought my first computer there was no such thing as a PC. It was Apple, Atari, TRS 80, Company, Osborn or another of that ilk. Apple was costly but a no brainer in terms of quality and capability. The capability was provided by software vendors. In my case, Quark and Word Juggler. Paul via phone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Billwrote: > >> On 10/13/2016 5:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Odd. I judge products in respect to how much they can contribute to >> my business and photography, not on whether they mark me as a fan of >> any brand. The anti-apple thing seems more of a fan-boy cult than >> does the apple buyer group. All very silly, IMO. > > My iPad literally would not work until I allowed myself to be assimilated by > the collective. > Do all Apple products do that or is it possible to buy an Apple product and > actually maintain anonymity? > > That is actually a deal breaker for me regarding their products. > > My personal Android phone works just as well as the iPhone that my work gave > me. Ops wise, there isn't really much to say about them one way or the other. > > >> >> Paul via phone >> On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:10 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a > Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. I think I'd prefer the squirrel. >>> >>> The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you >>> don't want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and >>> it's all but impossible to pry it out of her hands. >>> >>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from >>> the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the >>> directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
Silly or not, the original poster had made it very clear that he didn't want an Apple product. As such, it seems more than a little pointless (or worse) to suggest that an iPad would be the right choice for him. He's entitled to his opinions, no matter how silly you think they might be. In my wife's case she was upgrading from a Kindle, and was able to transfer over all the apps that she'd purchased, so an Android tablet was the right choice for her. If I get a modern tablet I'd probably go for an Android, too - I've got an old ASUS Transformer I got as part of a project that I was working on, and we both have Android phones, so there's really not a lot of sense in considering switching to a different platform. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 07:18:05PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Odd. I judge products in respect to how much they can contribute to my > business and photography, not on whether they mark me as a fan of any brand. > The anti-apple thing seems more of a fan-boy cult than does the apple buyer > group. All very silly, IMO. > > Paul via phone > > > On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:10 PM, John Franciswrote: > > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > >> On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> > >>> Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy > >>> Tab (not the phone) right now. > >> > >> I think I'd prefer the squirrel. > > > > The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't > > want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all > > but impossible to pry it out of her hands. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
That's an amazing bargain. I'll have to have a look. My wife had a Lenovo notebook that died in a matter of months, but that was quite a few years ago. For the last few years of her life she had an Airbook. Pricey but bullet proof. Grace has it now. Paul via phone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Brian Walterswrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016, at 10:10 AM, John Francis wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. >>> >>> I think I'd prefer the squirrel. >> >> The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't >> want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all >> but impossible to pry it out of her hands. > > > My wife has one too. Loves it. > > I have an older Galexy Note 10.1 which is also great and recently bought > a Lenovo Tab 2 A7-20 because I wanted something a bit smaller for > carting around in my camera bag. Cost less than 100 bucks and is simply > amazing! I'm yet to find any app that wont run on it. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > -- > -- > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On 10/13/2016 5:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Odd. I judge products in respect to how much they can contribute to my business and photography, not on whether they mark me as a fan of any brand. The anti-apple thing seems more of a fan-boy cult than does the apple buyer group. All very silly, IMO. My iPad literally would not work until I allowed myself to be assimilated by the collective. Do all Apple products do that or is it possible to buy an Apple product and actually maintain anonymity? That is actually a deal breaker for me regarding their products. My personal Android phone works just as well as the iPhone that my work gave me. Ops wise, there isn't really much to say about them one way or the other. Paul via phone On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:10 PM, John Franciswrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. I think I'd prefer the squirrel. The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all but impossible to pry it out of her hands. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/13/2016 4:45 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. I think I'd prefer the squirrel. A squirrel and a roll of electrical tape is all a real man needs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On 10/13/2016 3:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: But this one stands out: "But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple." Apparently too much Scotch will do that to you. French wine. And I'm really embarrassed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016, at 10:10 AM, John Francis wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy > > >Tab (not the phone) right now. > > > > I think I'd prefer the squirrel. > > The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't > want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all > but impossible to pry it out of her hands. My wife has one too. Loves it. I have an older Galexy Note 10.1 which is also great and recently bought a Lenovo Tab 2 A7-20 because I wanted something a bit smaller for carting around in my camera bag. Cost less than 100 bucks and is simply amazing! I'm yet to find any app that wont run on it. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Francis wrote: >On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy >> >Tab (not the phone) right now. >> >> I think I'd prefer the squirrel. > >The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't >want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all >but impossible to pry it out of her hands. I have an ASUS "ZenPad 8" and it's just brilliant. Ridiculously high-res display, expandable storage (with micro SD card slot - I added 128 gig) and an OTG-compatible micro USB jack, so I can plug in a standard USB thumb drive via OTG cable and copy files back and forth. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Odd. I judge products in respect to how much they can contribute to my business and photography, not on whether they mark me as a fan of any brand. The anti-apple thing seems more of a fan-boy cult than does the apple buyer group. All very silly, IMO. Paul via phone > On Oct 13, 2016, at 7:10 PM, John Franciswrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy >>> Tab (not the phone) right now. >> >> I think I'd prefer the squirrel. > > The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't > want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all > but impossible to pry it out of her hands. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:45:45PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy > >Tab (not the phone) right now. > > I think I'd prefer the squirrel. The Galaxy Tab is a very nice piece of kit, especially if you don't want to buy into the apple fan club. My wife has one, and it's all but impossible to pry it out of her hands. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 13/10/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy >Tab (not the phone) right now. I think I'd prefer the squirrel. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On 10/13/2016 5:33 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/10/16, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: But this one stands out: "But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple." Apparently too much Scotch will do that to you. Looks like I should be able to find some good deals on a Samsung Galaxy Tab (not the phone) right now. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 13/10/16, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: >But this one stands out: > >"But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple." Apparently too much Scotch will do that to you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
There's too many Marks! in there to count. hehe But this one stands out: "But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple." On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Billwrote: > On 10/7/2016 4:21 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> John - You're going to hate I-pads... don't do it. > > > Seconded. I bought an iPad specifically to run my quad copter. That's about > all it's good for. > > It's the best built piece of fucked up crap I have ever had the displeasure > of using, and to use it I had to submit to joining the Apple Collective. > That's adding insult to injury at it's finest. > I'd have rather been assimilated by the Borg, At least then I could boink 7 > of 9. > Actually, that's a really good reason to be assimilated by the Borg, but I > digress. > > My old tablet is an Asus Transformer, which would clip onto a real keyboard. > I don't know if they are still available. It's problem was that it could be > right beside my router and still have flaky connectivity. > At least it had an SD port on the keyboard and a mini SD on the screen. > > But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple. > > Someone ran over my favorite squirrel a couple of days ago. Poor little > bastard. > There's only one thing I hate more than the prick that ran over my squirrel, > and that's donald trump. > I only have one thing against that fucked up piece of shit, that being he > has a pulse. > > Sorry kids, I'm really drunk. I'll probably hate myself for this in the > morning. > Except for the donald trump part. I'm serious as a heart attack about that. > > Hangover, here I come. > > Remember, friends don't let friends buy Apple Crapple. > > >> >> I hate 'em too .. all touch screens.. >> >> and , like you, I have a lovely little flip phone that only does text >> and voice - no web connectivity. >> >> and a reliable land line which was the ONLY thing that worked during >> Sandy and the only communication device that worked on 9/11 >> >> ann >> >> >> On 10/7/2016 3:51 PM, John wrote: >>> >>> I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking >>> about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. >>> >>> 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a >>> data plan. WiFi is Ok. >>> >>> 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the >>> photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card >>> with the photos on it. >>> >>> 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). >>> >>> 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby >>> fingerprints off the screen. >>> >>> I welcome your recommendations. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And iPad is my most used computer nowadays. I use it for almost everything that isn't my main image processing system. I'm typing this note on it right now. - Screens inevitably get dirty; you clean them. - The iPad Pro's keyboard cover is an excellent keyboard. - There are many different ways to get data into and out of it. - There's no need to use cellular data if you don't want to. The iPad Pro has the best screen quality for photographs of any tablet on the market today. It's more reliable, and there are more apps for it, than any other tablet on the market today. I wouldn't consider buying any other tablet computer unless it was for some odd specific purpose that required it. But I hesitate to recommend it to you, John, because you seem to complain about anything and everything regardless of how good or bad it might be. G > On Oct 8, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Bruce Walkerwrote: > > I like my Apple iPad Air well enough. I share your distaste for > touchscreens, but Apple has managed to make them tolerable. > > Touchscreens in general suffer from so many issues like failing to > notice a touch (eg when typing on the virtual keyboard), reacting to a > touch as if your finger was positioned in a different screen location > (eg launches the wrong app), being too sensitive and registering when > you didn't intend it (especially when trying to use the builtin camera > camera). > > All these issues plague any non-Apple screen I've ever tried, mostly > Android smartphones, but three generations of iPads I have used are > much less prone to them. iPads never mislocate your finger touch. > > You don't need a phone SIM or account. WiFi is all I use. > > You can get a simple little SDXC adapter, though I haven't got one. I > use my desktop and transfer stuff over. > > It charges from anything you plug its USB cable into. > > It's easy to clean the screen with a wipe. Even the back of your hand > a shirt sleeve will do. Best to clean it with eyeglass cleaner and a > microfiber cloth now and then. > > I use my iPad actively for tethering while shooting (instant live > previews), showing folks my portfolio, and also surfing email and the > web around the house. I have a few specialized apps like Nest (control > the smart thermostat). I even read some ebooks and magazines on it. > And I use it to stream music to a Bluetooth adapter attached to the > stereo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 08 October 2016 at 05:00 Billwrote: > I'd have rather been assimilated by the Borg, At least then I could > boink 7 of 9. Does the Borg Boink? I thought that was verBoten. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On 10/8/2016 11:23 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: I knew there was a reason we were friends :-) except for the drunk part... I don't do drunk How do you feel about 7 of 9? :) ann On 10/8/2016 12:00 AM, Bill wrote: On 10/7/2016 4:21 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: John - You're going to hate I-pads... don't do it. Seconded. I bought an iPad specifically to run my quad copter. That's about all it's good for. It's the best built piece of fucked up crap I have ever had the displeasure of using, and to use it I had to submit to joining the Apple Collective. That's adding insult to injury at it's finest. I'd have rather been assimilated by the Borg, At least then I could boink 7 of 9. Actually, that's a really good reason to be assimilated by the Borg, but I digress. My old tablet is an Asus Transformer, which would clip onto a real keyboard. I don't know if they are still available. It's problem was that it could be right beside my router and still have flaky connectivity. At least it had an SD port on the keyboard and a mini SD on the screen. But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple. Someone ran over my favorite squirrel a couple of days ago. Poor little bastard. There's only one thing I hate more than the prick that ran over my squirrel, and that's donald trump. I only have one thing against that fucked up piece of shit, that being he has a pulse. Sorry kids, I'm really drunk. I'll probably hate myself for this in the morning. Except for the donald trump part. I'm serious as a heart attack about that. Hangover, here I come. Remember, friends don't let friends buy Apple Crapple. I hate 'em too .. all touch screens.. and , like you, I have a lovely little flip phone that only does text and voice - no web connectivity. and a reliable land line which was the ONLY thing that worked during Sandy and the only communication device that worked on 9/11 ann On 10/7/2016 3:51 PM, John wrote: I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a data plan. WiFi is Ok. 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card with the photos on it. 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby fingerprints off the screen. I welcome your recommendations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
I knew there was a reason we were friends :-) except for the drunk part... I don't do drunk ann On 10/8/2016 12:00 AM, Bill wrote: On 10/7/2016 4:21 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: John - You're going to hate I-pads... don't do it. Seconded. I bought an iPad specifically to run my quad copter. That's about all it's good for. It's the best built piece of fucked up crap I have ever had the displeasure of using, and to use it I had to submit to joining the Apple Collective. That's adding insult to injury at it's finest. I'd have rather been assimilated by the Borg, At least then I could boink 7 of 9. Actually, that's a really good reason to be assimilated by the Borg, but I digress. My old tablet is an Asus Transformer, which would clip onto a real keyboard. I don't know if they are still available. It's problem was that it could be right beside my router and still have flaky connectivity. At least it had an SD port on the keyboard and a mini SD on the screen. But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple. Someone ran over my favorite squirrel a couple of days ago. Poor little bastard. There's only one thing I hate more than the prick that ran over my squirrel, and that's donald trump. I only have one thing against that fucked up piece of shit, that being he has a pulse. Sorry kids, I'm really drunk. I'll probably hate myself for this in the morning. Except for the donald trump part. I'm serious as a heart attack about that. Hangover, here I come. Remember, friends don't let friends buy Apple Crapple. I hate 'em too .. all touch screens.. and , like you, I have a lovely little flip phone that only does text and voice - no web connectivity. and a reliable land line which was the ONLY thing that worked during Sandy and the only communication device that worked on 9/11 ann On 10/7/2016 3:51 PM, John wrote: I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a data plan. WiFi is Ok. 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card with the photos on it. 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby fingerprints off the screen. I welcome your recommendations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
I like my Apple iPad Air well enough. I share your distaste for touchscreens, but Apple has managed to make them tolerable. Touchscreens in general suffer from so many issues like failing to notice a touch (eg when typing on the virtual keyboard), reacting to a touch as if your finger was positioned in a different screen location (eg launches the wrong app), being too sensitive and registering when you didn't intend it (especially when trying to use the builtin camera camera). All these issues plague any non-Apple screen I've ever tried, mostly Android smartphones, but three generations of iPads I have used are much less prone to them. iPads never mislocate your finger touch. You don't need a phone SIM or account. WiFi is all I use. You can get a simple little SDXC adapter, though I haven't got one. I use my desktop and transfer stuff over. It charges from anything you plug its USB cable into. It's easy to clean the screen with a wipe. Even the back of your hand a shirt sleeve will do. Best to clean it with eyeglass cleaner and a microfiber cloth now and then. I use my iPad actively for tethering while shooting (instant live previews), showing folks my portfolio, and also surfing email and the web around the house. I have a few specialized apps like Nest (control the smart thermostat). I even read some ebooks and magazines on it. And I use it to stream music to a Bluetooth adapter attached to the stereo. On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Johnwrote: > I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking > about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. > > 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a > data plan. WiFi is Ok. > > 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the > photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card > with the photos on it. > > 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). > > 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby > fingerprints off the screen. > > I welcome your recommendations. > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
On 10/7/2016 4:21 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: John - You're going to hate I-pads... don't do it. Seconded. I bought an iPad specifically to run my quad copter. That's about all it's good for. It's the best built piece of fucked up crap I have ever had the displeasure of using, and to use it I had to submit to joining the Apple Collective. That's adding insult to injury at it's finest. I'd have rather been assimilated by the Borg, At least then I could boink 7 of 9. Actually, that's a really good reason to be assimilated by the Borg, but I digress. My old tablet is an Asus Transformer, which would clip onto a real keyboard. I don't know if they are still available. It's problem was that it could be right beside my router and still have flaky connectivity. At least it had an SD port on the keyboard and a mini SD on the screen. But fuck me with a dead squirrel, I hate Apple. Someone ran over my favorite squirrel a couple of days ago. Poor little bastard. There's only one thing I hate more than the prick that ran over my squirrel, and that's donald trump. I only have one thing against that fucked up piece of shit, that being he has a pulse. Sorry kids, I'm really drunk. I'll probably hate myself for this in the morning. Except for the donald trump part. I'm serious as a heart attack about that. Hangover, here I come. Remember, friends don't let friends buy Apple Crapple. I hate 'em too .. all touch screens.. and , like you, I have a lovely little flip phone that only does text and voice - no web connectivity. and a reliable land line which was the ONLY thing that worked during Sandy and the only communication device that worked on 9/11 ann On 10/7/2016 3:51 PM, John wrote: I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a data plan. WiFi is Ok. 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card with the photos on it. 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby fingerprints off the screen. I welcome your recommendations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
John - You're going to hate I-pads... don't do it. I hate 'em too .. all touch screens.. and , like you, I have a lovely little flip phone that only does text and voice - no web connectivity. and a reliable land line which was the ONLY thing that worked during Sandy and the only communication device that worked on 9/11 ann On 10/7/2016 3:51 PM, John wrote: I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a data plan. WiFi is Ok. 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card with the photos on it. 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby fingerprints off the screen. I welcome your recommendations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With most tablets it is easy to connect to a cheap ( about $10) bluetooth keyboard if you want minimal use of the touchscreen. I bought one for my Google Pixel C tablet wheras the original separate keyboard from Google costs about $ 160. The Pixel C has by the way excellent resolution for viewing pictures. Henk Op 2016-10-07 om 21:51 schreef John: I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a data plan. WiFi is Ok. 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card with the photos on it. 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby fingerprints off the screen. I welcome your recommendations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Tablets or Pads
Recently bought a Lenovo Yoga 3. Tapping its screen to write this. :-) It cost me about 160 USD, plus a micro SDXC card. I load images via Google Disk, flickr and Microsoft OneDrive through Wifi. Pleased with its battery and find the screen okay. I suspect the Samsung models with AMOLED screens are brighter, but none were available locally for similar prices at the time of purchase. Jostein Den 7. oktober 2016 21.51.48 CEST, skrev John: >I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking >about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. > >1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a >data plan. WiFi is Ok. > >2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the >photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card >with the photos on it. > >3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). > >4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby >fingerprints off the screen. > >I welcome your recommendations. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Tablets or Pads
I'm still not interested in a smart phone, but I have started thinking about maybe getting a tablet or a pad to display photographs. 1. I want one that does NOT require me to have a cell phone account & a data plan. WiFi is Ok. 2. I want one that will let me plug in a USB thumb drive & download the photos to the tablet/pad or that will allow me to plug in a SDHC card with the photos on it. 3. I want one that recharges either from a wall wart or USB (or both). 4. I *HATE* touchscreens, so it should be easy to clean grubby fingerprints off the screen. I welcome your recommendations. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.