Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
Yes, that should have been amateur, not armature, though in some sense the testers may be armatures, who knows. P. J. Alling wrote: The DA 40 f2.8 is almost exactly the same lens as the M 40 f2.8, by all accounts. However it does seem that the former is sharper in the center, (the area covered by the APS-C sensor), but softer at the edges and in the corners, when tested on 35mm film. It's possible that Pentax tweaked it for APS-C, or it's possible that the admitted armature testers were biased. Personally if Pentax brings out a FF camera and I had a choice, (oh wait I do), I'd stick with the FA 43mm f1.9. I expect that the 40mm lenses of any of the three series M, DA or the new Mark Newson thingy will disappoint. Margus Männik wrote: Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, DA*60-250, DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. I have tested 'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't developed the film with some DA40XS shots, but most probably this lens also has no significant vignetting at corners. BRM On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote: Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called the new 50 a DFA lens...? The FF contingent would have exhausted themselves long ago in all the excitement. Rumor has it that the DA 60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all :) -c (hopeful, but not holding my breath...) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
The DA 40 f2.8 is almost exactly the same lens as the M 40 f2.8, by all accounts. However it does seem that the former is sharper in the center, (the area covered by the APS-C sensor), but softer at the edges and in the corners, when tested on 35mm film. It's possible that Pentax tweaked it for APS-C, or it's possible that the admitted armature testers were biased. Personally if Pentax brings out a FF camera and I had a choice, (oh wait I do), I'd stick with the FA 43mm f1.9. I expect that the 40mm lenses of any of the three series M, DA or the new Mark Newson thingy will disappoint. Margus Männik wrote: Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, DA*60-250, DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. I have tested 'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't developed the film with some DA40XS shots, but most probably this lens also has no significant vignetting at corners. BRM On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote: Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called the new 50 a DFA lens...? The FF contingent would have exhausted themselves long ago in all the excitement. Rumor has it that the DA 60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all :) -c (hopeful, but not holding my breath...) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, DA*60-250, DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. I have tested 'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't developed the film with some DA40XS shots, but most probably this lens also has no significant vignetting at corners. BRM On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote: Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called the new 50 a DFA lens...? The FF contingent would have exhausted themselves long ago in all the excitement. Rumor has it that the DA 60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all :) -c (hopeful, but not holding my breath...) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
I think John has hit upon the key point. The two Pentax sales may have left them with a "legacy" DA lens (which may work with FF) en route and Ricoh wanting and/or finally letting them produce a FF DSLR. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > I suspect Pentax's plans for where they are going were changed a lot when > they sold themselves to Hoya. I suspect they changed as much again, when > Hoya sold the camera division to Ricoh. > > I also suspect that Pentax marketing & product development are still trying > to catch up with the changes. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
I suspect Pentax's plans for where they are going were changed a lot when they sold themselves to Hoya. I suspect they changed as much again, when Hoya sold the camera division to Ricoh. I also suspect that Pentax marketing & product development are still trying to catch up with the changes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
With older non CPU chipped (ie manual) lenses & a higher end body, you can still use the aperture ring on a Nikon. DS On 4 June 2012 21:50, P. J. Alling wrote: > I believe that Canon removed the aperture ring from their lenses as a cost > savings and have managed to convince photographers that this is more modern > and that the lack of this feature is in fact a feature. While having manual > control of the aperture on a very long lens on the body of the camera may be > desirable, as the aperture ring could be of necessity in an awkward place, > it only makes sense to put aperture control on a shortish lens and divide up > the shooting controls a bit more equally between both hands. At least > Pentax and Nikon used to give you the choice of how you wanted to work. Now > it's left to Panasonic and Samsung to allow that. > > > On 6/4/2012 7:28 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: >> >> Touchè. >> >> Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they >> are used randomly. >> >> Dario >> >> -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling >> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from >> Pentax >> >> Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't >> have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job >> camouflaging it. >> >> >> http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR >> >> On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: >>> >>> So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA >>> lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know). >>> So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' >>> and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage. >>> Dario >>> >>> -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling >>> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax >>> >>> Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to >>> announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 >>> which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't >>> know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames >>> admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture >>> ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. >>> In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 >>> and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with >>> that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total >>> package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective >>> heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera >>> that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since >>> this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
THIS IS BAD! - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Dario Bonazza Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Touchè. Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they are used randomly. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job camouflaging it. http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_ WR On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA > lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know). > So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' > and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens > coverage. > Dario > > -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax > > Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to > announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 > which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't > know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames > admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture > ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. > In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 > and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with > that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total > package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective > heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera > that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since > this is not necessarily an either or proposition. > -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5038 - Data di rilascio: 01/06/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
I believe that Canon removed the aperture ring from their lenses as a cost savings and have managed to convince photographers that this is more modern and that the lack of this feature is in fact a feature. While having manual control of the aperture on a very long lens on the body of the camera may be desirable, as the aperture ring could be of necessity in an awkward place, it only makes sense to put aperture control on a shortish lens and divide up the shooting controls a bit more equally between both hands. At least Pentax and Nikon used to give you the choice of how you wanted to work. Now it's left to Panasonic and Samsung to allow that. On 6/4/2012 7:28 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Touchè. Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they are used randomly. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job camouflaging it. http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know). So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
Touchè. Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they are used randomly. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job camouflaging it. http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know). So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5038 - Data di rilascio: 01/06/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job camouflaging it. http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know). So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
On 1 June 2012 12:03, P. J. Alling wrote: > Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to > announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which > is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the > middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be > designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it > wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of > a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't > cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens > cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either > a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, > or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not > take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or > proposition. Maybe they'll release a DFA 50mm f/1.7 for the new camera. Without an aperture ring. Those things are relics of the past. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called the new 50 a DFA lens...? The FF contingent would have exhausted themselves long ago in all the excitement. Rumor has it that the DA 60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all :) -c (hopeful, but not holding my breath...) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to > announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which > is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the > middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be > designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it > wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of > a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't > cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens > cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either > a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, > or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not > take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or > proposition. > > -- > Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid > a lengthily search. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know). So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax Not a lot of thoughts really. However if Pentax was really going to announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be designated a DFA lens? True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one. In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price. So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline. I'll not take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or proposition. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2012.0.1913 / Database dei virus: 2425/5038 - Data di rilascio: 01/06/2012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.