Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-09 Thread Mishka
thanx for explaining -- i feel MUCH better now :)
best,
mishka

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:42:20 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Damn now you made me look it up.
 
 For the baseball predictor it has nothing to do with City.
  (...)
 
 Mishka wrote:
 
 i believe both were boston (red sox and patriots -- man, i have been
 living in this country
 far too long! ), no clash
 
 best,
 mishka



Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'm glad somebody does...
Mishka wrote:
thanx for explaining -- i feel MUCH better now :)
best,
mishka
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:42:20 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Damn now you made me look it up.
For the baseball predictor it has nothing to do with City.
(...)
Mishka wrote:
   

i believe both were boston (red sox and patriots -- man, i have been
living in this country
far too long! ), no clash
best,
mishka
 


 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with 
camera sales was not digital cameras, but the world economic 
conditions. But things are on the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 
11 year economic cycle many times, and no one listens. I find it 
strange that none of the so-called economists mention it. Of course 
I have only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, 
and 2003 being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not 
large enough.

Hm...
In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot 
cycles...:-)

How's that for economic theory?
Jostein


Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Whaley

Jostein wrote:
- Original Message - From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with 
camera sales was not digital cameras, but the world economic 
conditions. But things are on the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 11 
year economic cycle many times, and no one listens. I find it strange 
that none of the so-called economists mention it. Of course I have 
only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, and 2003 
being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not large enough.

Hm...
In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot 
cycles...:-)

How's that for economic theory?
Jostein
Good as anyone else's!  g
keith whaley


Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Jostein,

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:31:59 +0100, Jostein wrote:

 Hm...
 In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot 
 cycles...:-)
 
 How's that for economic theory?

Well, it's really more of a hypothesized predictor.  As one, it's no
worse than the which conference won the Super Bowl predictor, which
IIRC was remarkably accurate for about 30 years, and may still be, for
all I know.  Or maybe the Super Bowl one was for US Presidential
elections rather than the economy.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Superbowl and World Series were pretty good predictors of the US 
Presidency, this year they clashed, I
can't remember which won.

Doug Franklin wrote:
Hi Jostein,
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:31:59 +0100, Jostein wrote:
 

Hm...
In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot 
cycles...:-)

How's that for economic theory?
   

Well, it's really more of a hypothesized predictor.  As one, it's no
worse than the which conference won the Super Bowl predictor, which
IIRC was remarkably accurate for about 30 years, and may still be, for
all I know.  Or maybe the Super Bowl one was for US Presidential
elections rather than the economy.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Mishka
i believe both were boston (red sox and patriots -- man, i have been
living in this country
far too long! ), no clash

best,
mishka


On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:42:11 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Superbowl and World Series were pretty good predictors of the US
 Presidency, this year they clashed, I
 can't remember which won.
 
 Doug Franklin wrote:
 
 Hi Jostein,
 
 On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:31:59 +0100, Jostein wrote:
 
 
 
 Hm...
 In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot
 cycles...:-)
 
 How's that for economic theory?
 
 
 
 Well, it's really more of a hypothesized predictor.  As one, it's no
 worse than the which conference won the Super Bowl predictor, which
 IIRC was remarkably accurate for about 30 years, and may still be, for
 all I know.  Or maybe the Super Bowl one was for US Presidential
 elections rather than the economy.
 
 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke
 




Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Graywolf
I thought of the posibility of it be connected to the sunspot cycle, but that 
did not change due to WWII (grin).

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Jostein wrote:
- Original Message - From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with 
camera sales was not digital cameras, but the world economic 
conditions. But things are on the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 11 
year economic cycle many times, and no one listens. I find it strange 
that none of the so-called economists mention it. Of course I have 
only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, and 2003 
being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not large enough.

Hm...
In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot 
cycles...:-)

How's that for economic theory?
Jostein


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Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Damn now you made me look it up.
For the baseball predictor it has nothing to do with City.
From 1952 to 1976 if the American League (AL) won the world series the 
Republicans would win the presidency.  If the National League (NL) won 
the series the Democrats won the Presidency. (100%).  Since 1976 it's 
been split evenly).  But since 1920 this predictor has been right about 
71 1/2 % of the time.  If I could predict anything that well I'd be 
rich.  The Red Sox are an AL team by the way.

I was wrong about the Superbowl it was actually a single team, the 
Washington Redskins, from 1940 to 2000 if the Redskins won their last 
home game the incumbent party kept the White House, if they lost the 
incumbent party lost.  This was 100%.  Prior to the 1940 the Redskins 
weren't in Washington and they weren't the Redskins.  In 2004 the 
Redskins lost the crucial game.  (Oh well another swell theory down the 
drain).


Mishka wrote:
i believe both were boston (red sox and patriots -- man, i have been
living in this country
far too long! ), no clash
best,
mishka
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:42:11 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Superbowl and World Series were pretty good predictors of the US
Presidency, this year they clashed, I
can't remember which won.
Doug Franklin wrote:
   

Hi Jostein,
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:31:59 +0100, Jostein wrote:

 

Hm...
In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot
cycles...:-)
How's that for economic theory?
   

Well, it's really more of a hypothesized predictor.  As one, it's no
worse than the which conference won the Super Bowl predictor, which
IIRC was remarkably accurate for about 30 years, and may still be, for
all I know.  Or maybe the Super Bowl one was for US Presidential
elections rather than the economy.
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ


 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-08 Thread David Mann
On Mar 9, 2005, at 5:31 AM, Jostein wrote:
Hm...
In sync with the years of minimum solar activity in the sunspot 
cycles...:-)

How's that for economic theory?
I do remember reading something recently about the sunspot cycle 
affecting solar radiation which in turn affects crop yields which then 
affects the economy.

Not sure if it was proven or debunked though.  Probably both :)
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-07 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:45:46 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml
 Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very well is
 surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using film for
 PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)...
 
From the article:  Lord, I don't think I have the strength to face a
world without Leica  I'm just now getting used to a world without
Deardorff!
This is off topic, but for those of you with an interest in large
format, Mr. Deardorff is once again making view cameras under the name
J. Deardorff Photographic Products Intl., or DPPI.  I have a scan of
the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself.  It's a
VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages.  If anyone wants a copy,
I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download.  Perhaps
someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it?


-- 
Scott Loveless
Born free.  Taxed to death.



Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-07 Thread Frantisek
SL the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself.  It's a
SL VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages.  If anyone wants a copy,
SL I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download.  Perhaps
SL someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it?

Hi Scott, you can use the Ghostscript (free Postscript) from Unix
(also for Windooze and Macs) with a GS/PDF viewer/converter to
downsample or extract the pages. Or I can do it, if you send me the
link. Best thing is that Ghostscript is free... It probably has too large
images which could be safely compressed and downsampled to screen
resolution for screen viewing only.

Good light!
   fra



Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-07 Thread Graywolf
No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with camera sales 
was not digital cameras, but the world economic conditions. But things are on 
the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 11 year economic cycle many times, and no 
one listens. I find it strange that none of the so-called economists mention it. 
Of course I have only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, 
and 2003 being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not large enough.

Major wars seem to modify that cycle. The bottom was mild in the US in 1970 when 
the government was spending billions on the VietNam war. And WWII held things 
off for about 4 years, the bottom of the cycle prior to '48 being 1933. Taking 
that 4 year slip into account I can find references that show the cycle holds 
back to 1900.

Next bottom 2014; expect the economy to start an obvious down trend about 2010 
with a possible sudden drop in the stock market a year or too befor that. Stock 
market crashes seem to happen at the top of the cycle. People blame them for the 
following depression, but the depression is going to hit reguardless of that.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Scott Loveless wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:45:46 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml
Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very well is
surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using film for
PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)...

From the article:  Lord, I don't think I have the strength to face a
world without Leica  I'm just now getting used to a world without
Deardorff!
This is off topic, but for those of you with an interest in large
format, Mr. Deardorff is once again making view cameras under the name
J. Deardorff Photographic Products Intl., or DPPI.  I have a scan of
the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself.  It's a
VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages.  If anyone wants a copy,
I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download.  Perhaps
someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it?


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Re: Sunday photographer Just to be contrary

2005-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually there are four major cycles, the 11 year cycle you mention is 
somewhat in dispute. 

Graywolf wrote:
No surprise that the F6 is selling well. Most of the problem with 
camera sales was not digital cameras, but the world economic 
conditions. But things are on the rise again now. I'vw mentioned an 11 
year economic cycle many times, and no one listens. I find it strange 
that none of the so-called economists mention it. Of course I have 
only lived through six of them: 1948, 1959, 1970, 1981, 1992, and 2003 
being the bottoms of the cycle, so maybe my sample is not large enough.

Major wars seem to modify that cycle. The bottom was mild in the US in 
1970 when the government was spending billions on the VietNam war. And 
WWII held things off for about 4 years, the bottom of the cycle prior 
to '48 being 1933. Taking that 4 year slip into account I can find 
references that show the cycle holds back to 1900.

Next bottom 2014; expect the economy to start an obvious down trend 
about 2010 with a possible sudden drop in the stock market a year or 
too befor that. Stock market crashes seem to happen at the top of the 
cycle. People blame them for the following depression, but the 
depression is going to hit reguardless of that.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Scott Loveless wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:45:46 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml
Interestng conclusions. And information that new Nikon F6 sells very 
well is
surprising too. Apparently there are a lot of people still using 
film for
PRO work too (Natoinal Geographic should be a good example)...


From the article:  Lord, I don't think I have the strength to face a
world without Leica  I'm just now getting used to a world without
Deardorff!
This is off topic, but for those of you with an interest in large
format, Mr. Deardorff is once again making view cameras under the name
J. Deardorff Photographic Products Intl., or DPPI.  I have a scan of
the catalog that was presented recently by the man himself.  It's a
VERY LARGE file (~12MB) for only 37 pages.  If anyone wants a copy,
I'll be happy to post it at my personal site for download.  Perhaps
someone with a copy of Acrobat would be willing to resize it?



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke