Re: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
More of a screaming furbelow. > On 28 May 2021 at 20:05 John wrote: > > > Would that be a ruffled flounce or a lace frill? > > On 5/27/2021 14:09:44, mike wilson wrote: > > Relegated to an "other". Should I flounce off as well? > > > > > > > > Nah. It's not all about me. > > > >> On 27 May 2021 at 18:51 Stanley Halpin wrote: > >> > >> > >> There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one > >> of the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words > >> to that effect. > >> > >> I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear > >> departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had > >> signed off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up > >> with you?” > >> > >> In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. > >> Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your > >> family in bomb shelters can do that to you. > >> > >> All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting > >> group. I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but > >> back at least 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List > >> to make connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, > >> including an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and > >> others in England. Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, > >> Naples,Ravenna… Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv > >> and Jerusalem and Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob > >> and a bunch of others in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in > >> Oslo (and Salisbury and Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark > >> in Boston and of course the Chicago weekend organized by Mark and > >> Christine. And the Grandfather gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends > >> in D.C. And that is just me and off the top of my head. I can recall > >> hearing of many NYC meetups and others, often on occasion of visitors from > >> outside the U.S. passing through on business or vacation. Larry and John > >> on the West Coast, Ann and Dan on the East Coast have provided something > >> of a nexus in those regions. > >> > >> An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in > >> general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not > >> exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one > >> another, close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when > >> buying/selling gear, close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at > >> artistry without fear of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that > >> we could reach out to someone in difficulty and without feeling like an > >> intrusive stranger? I do know that there is no generic answer, we members > >> are not all alike. But, for me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit > >> on thinking about reaching out to provide comfort to one another > >> occasionally? Just a thought. > >> > >> And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the > >> Oriole at the feeder… > >> > >> Stan -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
Would that be a ruffled flounce or a lace frill? On 5/27/2021 14:09:44, mike wilson wrote: Relegated to an "other". Should I flounce off as well? Nah. It's not all about me. On 27 May 2021 at 18:51 Stanley Halpin wrote: There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one of the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words to that effect. I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had signed off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up with you?” In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your family in bomb shelters can do that to you. All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting group. I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but back at least 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List to make connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, including an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and others in England. Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, Naples,Ravenna… Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob and a bunch of others in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in Oslo (and Salisbury and Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark in Boston and of course the Chicago weekend organized by Mark and Christine. And the Grandfather gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends in D.C. And that is just me and off the top of my head. I can recall hearing of many NYC meetups and others, often on occasion of visitors from outside the U.S. passing through on business or vacation. Larry and John on the West Coast, Ann and Dan on the East Coast have provided something of a nexus in those regions. An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one another, close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when buying/selling gear, close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at artistry without fear of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that we could reach out to someone in difficulty and without feeling like an intrusive stranger? I do know that there is no generic answer, we members are not all alike. But, for me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit on thinking about reaching out to provide comfort to one another occasionally? Just a thought. And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the Oriole at the feeder… Stan -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
On May 27, 2021, at 11:30, Stanley Halpin wrote: > > Hang around. Abuse and humiliation and neglect are said to be good for the > soul, and you can find all of that here… > And seriously, I have fond memories of sitting around with a group, after the > Eye, receiving a gift of landscape images from a region I still have yet to > visit. And you at least have hung in there with Pentax while Cotty and Bob > have flitted off to other marques. No, no flouncing called for IMNSHO. A very long time ago, long before I acquired my Asahi Pentax S-1a (1968 while statioed in Vicenza IT via an unindicted co-conspirator in unit security who made regular round trips to Japan, taking orders an d shekels and returning with hardware)(couldn't afford a Honeywell Spotmatic) I messed around with the likes of pocket Instamatics and home-brew pocket-sized pinholes, so when an opportunity slapped me upside the heid, I found myself with a Holga, which in due time bred a Diana, and away I went (with lots of encouragement from the likes of Ted Orland!). I *do* still have a K-1000 and a K-10D and a Tokina 80-200 zoom and use the dickens out of them, and enjoy the badinage herein (Thank you LRC! for pointing the way). -- FUNEM SVFM FUNEX SVFX OKMNX -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
Stan, I think you summed up the Pentax list group in exactly the terms I would use. There is a degree of camaraderie that I am not sure would be found always even in a group which could meet physically, and that's a wondrous thing! Like you, Jan and I on our travels have met up with Ann in New York, Larry and John in San Francisco, Mark in Boston, a whole bunch including Christine in Chicago, Dario in Ravenna, and all but one of our Australian members, current or past at various times. I note that normally, whenever one of our group has an issue, people do reach out, as was done for me when my daughter -in-law died, then again when my daughter died, but it does not always happen. I made note to myself to ensure I do in future. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Stanley Halpin Sent: Friday, 28 May 2021 3:51 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities" There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one of the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words to that effect. I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had signed off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up with you?” In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your family in bomb shelters can do that to you. All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting group. I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but back at least 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List to make connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, including an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and others in England. Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, Naples,Ravenna… Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob and a bunch of others in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in Oslo (and Salisbury and Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark in Boston and of course the Chicago weekend organized by Mark and Christine. And the Grandfather gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends in D.C. And that is just me and off the top of my head. I can recall hearing of many NYC meetups and others, often on occasion of visitors from outside the U.S. passing through on business or vacation. Larry and John on the West Coast, Ann and Dan on the East Coast have provided something of a nexus in those regions. An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one another, close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when buying/selling gear, close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at artistry without fear of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that we could reach out to someone in difficulty and without feeling like an intrusive stranger? I do know that there is no generic answer, we members are not all alike. But, for me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit on thinking about reaching out to provide comfort to one another occasionally? Just a thought. And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the Oriole at the feeder… Stan -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
Pity. I quite fancied a good flounce. It's been sadly missed over lockdown. > On 27 May 2021 at 19:30 Stanley Halpin wrote: > > > Hang around. Abuse and humiliation and neglect are said to be good for the > soul, and you can find all of that here… > And seriously, I have fond memories of sitting around with a group, after the > Eye, receiving a gift of landscape images from a region I still have yet to > visit. And you at least have hung in there with Pentax while Cotty and Bob > have flitted off to other marques. No, no flouncing called for IMNSHO. > > Stan > > > On May 27, 2021, at 2:09 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > > > Relegated to an "other". Should I flounce off as well? > > > > > > > > Nah. It's not all about me. > > > >> On 27 May 2021 at 18:51 Stanley Halpin wrote: > >> > >> > >> There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one > >> of the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words > >> to that effect. > >> > >> I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear > >> departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had > >> signed off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up > >> with you?” > >> > >> In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. > >> Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your > >> family in bomb shelters can do that to you. > >> > >> All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting > >> group. I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but > >> back at least 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List > >> to make connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, > >> including an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and > >> others in England. Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, > >> Naples,Ravenna… Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv > >> and Jerusalem and Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob > >> and a bunch of others in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in > >> Oslo (and Salisbury and Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark > >> in Boston and of course the Chicago weekend organized by Mark and > >> Christine. And the Grandfather gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends > >> in D.C. And that is just me and off the top of my head. I can recall > >> hearing of many NYC meetups and others, often on occasion of visitors from > >> outside the U.S. passing through on business or vacation. Larry and John > >> on the West Coast, Ann and Dan on the East Coast have provided something > >> of a nexus in those regions. > >> > >> An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in > >> general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not > >> exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one > >> another, close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when > >> buying/selling gear, close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at > >> artistry without fear of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that > >> we could reach out to someone in difficulty and without feeling like an > >> intrusive stranger? I do know that there is no generic answer, we members > >> are not all alike. But, for me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit > >> on thinking about reaching out to provide comfort to one another > >> occasionally? Just a thought. > >> > >> And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the > >> Oriole at the feeder… > >> > >> Stan > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
Relegated to an "other". Should I flounce off as well? Nah. It's not all about me. > On 27 May 2021 at 18:51 Stanley Halpin wrote: > > > There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one of > the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words to > that effect. > > I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear > departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had signed > off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up with you?” > > In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. > Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your > family in bomb shelters can do that to you. > > All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting group. > I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but back at least > 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List to make > connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, including > an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and others in England. > Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, Naples,Ravenna… > Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and > Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob and a bunch of others > in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in Oslo (and Salisbury and > Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark in Boston and of course the > Chicago weekend organized by Mark and Christine. And the Grandfather > gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends in D.C. And that is just me and > off the top of my head. I can recall hearing of many NYC meetups and others, > often on occasion of visitors from outside the U.S. passing through on > business or vacation. Larry and John on the West Coast, Ann and Dan on the > East Coast have provided something of a nexus in those regions. > > An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in > general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not > exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one another, > close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when buying/selling gear, > close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at artistry without fear > of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that we could reach out to > someone in difficulty and without feeling like an intrusive stranger? I do > know that there is no generic answer, we members are not all alike. But, for > me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit on thinking about reaching out > to provide comfort to one another occasionally? Just a thought. > > And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the > Oriole at the feeder… > > Stan -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
Hang around. Abuse and humiliation and neglect are said to be good for the soul, and you can find all of that here… And seriously, I have fond memories of sitting around with a group, after the Eye, receiving a gift of landscape images from a region I still have yet to visit. And you at least have hung in there with Pentax while Cotty and Bob have flitted off to other marques. No, no flouncing called for IMNSHO. Stan > On May 27, 2021, at 2:09 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > Relegated to an "other". Should I flounce off as well? > > > > Nah. It's not all about me. > >> On 27 May 2021 at 18:51 Stanley Halpin wrote: >> >> >> There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one of >> the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words to >> that effect. >> >> I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear >> departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had signed >> off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up with you?” >> >> In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. >> Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your >> family in bomb shelters can do that to you. >> >> All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting >> group. I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but back >> at least 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List to >> make connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, >> including an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and others >> in England. Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, >> Naples,Ravenna… Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv and >> Jerusalem and Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob and a >> bunch of others in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in Oslo (and >> Salisbury and Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark in Boston >> and of course the Chicago weekend organized by Mark and Christine. And the >> Grandfather gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends in D.C. And that is >> just me and off the top of my head. I can recall hearing of many NYC meetups >> and others, often on occasion of visitors from outside the U.S. passing >> through on business or vacation. Larry and John on the West Coast, Ann and >> Dan on the East Coast have provided something of a nexus in those regions. >> >> An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in >> general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not >> exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one another, >> close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when buying/selling >> gear, close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at artistry without >> fear of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that we could reach out >> to someone in difficulty and without feeling like an intrusive stranger? I >> do know that there is no generic answer, we members are not all alike. But, >> for me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit on thinking about >> reaching out to provide comfort to one another occasionally? Just a thought. >> >> And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the >> Oriole at the feeder… >> >> Stan > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Recent departure(s) and my reflections on "online communities"
There was a bit of discussion (and consternation) here recently when one of the longtime members of this group declared “I am outta here” or words to that effect. I copy/pasted much of the ensuing discussion and sent it on to the dear departed (sorry, can’t resist using that phrase!) Just in case he had signed off before the discussion occurred. And I asked “so, what’s up with you?” In brief, the individual has understandably been under a bit of stress. Spending long periods listening to warning sirens while huddled with your family in bomb shelters can do that to you. All of this got me to reflecting on this group. This is an interesting group. I am not sure if I was the first to make this sort of move, but back at least 20 years ago I was at least one of the first to use the List to make connections when I traveled. Frank and Dave and others in Toronto, including an evening at a Blue Jays baseball game. Bob and Cotty and others in England. Gianfranco and Dario and others in Italy: Venice, Rome, Naples,Ravenna… Lasse and others in Sweden and Aland. Boris in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and Haifa. Henk and others in Amsterdam and Amersfoort. Rob and a bunch of others in Sydney and Melbourne and Adelaide. Jostein in Oslo (and Salisbury and Tenerife) and Paul and Bob in Milwaukee. And Mark in Boston and of course the Chicago weekend organized by Mark and Christine. And the Grandfather gatherings. And photo meetups for weekends in D.C. And that is just me and off the top of my head. I can recall hearing of many NYC meetups and others, often on occasion of visitors from outside the U.S. passing through on business or vacation. Larry and John on the West Coast, Ann and Dan on the East Coast have provided something of a nexus in those regions. An interesting group. Formed around a common interest in photography in general, the proper and effective use of Pentax gear in particular. Not exactly tight knit, but close enough that we can ask favors of one another, close enough that we can (mostly) trust one another when buying/selling gear, close enough that we can share our feeble attempts at artistry without fear of ridicule and humiliation. Maybe close enough that we could reach out to someone in difficulty and without feeling like an intrusive stranger? I do know that there is no generic answer, we members are not all alike. But, for me, for some of us, maybe, we could work a bit on thinking about reaching out to provide comfort to one another occasionally? Just a thought. And now back to my regularly scheduled attempt to get a decent shot of the Oriole at the feeder… Stan -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
