Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-11 Thread Margus Männik
Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, DA*60-250, 
DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. I have tested 
'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't developed the film with 
some DA40XS shots, but most probably this lens also has no significant 
vignetting at corners.


BRM


On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called
the new 50 a DFA lens...?  The FF contingent would have exhausted
themselves long ago in all the excitement.  Rumor has it that the DA
60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all

:)
-c
(hopeful, but not holding my breath...)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which
is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the
middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be
designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the event of
a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't
cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens
cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So either
a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine,
or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  I'll not
take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
proposition.

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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
The DA 40 f2.8 is almost exactly the same lens as the M 40 f2.8, by all 
accounts.  However it does seem that the former is sharper in the 
center, (the area covered by the APS-C sensor), but softer at the edges 
and in the corners, when tested on 35mm film.  It's possible that Pentax 
tweaked it for APS-C, or it's possible that the admitted armature 
testers were biased.  Personally if Pentax brings out a FF camera and I 
had a choice, (oh wait I do), I'd stick with the FA 43mm f1.9.  I expect 
that the 40mm lenses of any of the three series M, DA or the new Mark 
Newson thingy will disappoint.


Margus Männik wrote:
Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, DA*60-250, 
DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. I have 
tested 'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't developed the 
film with some DA40XS shots, but most probably this lens also has no 
significant vignetting at corners.


BRM


On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called
the new 50 a DFA lens...?  The FF contingent would have exhausted
themselves long ago in all the excitement.  Rumor has it that the DA
60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all

:)
-c
(hopeful, but not holding my breath...)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 
f1.8 which
is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't 
know the
middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames 
admirably, be

designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the 
event of
a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it 
wouldn't
cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as 
the lens
cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So 
either
a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't 
shine,
or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  
I'll not

take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
proposition.

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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, that should have been amateur, not armature, though in some sense 
the testers may be armatures, who knows.


P. J. Alling wrote:
The DA 40 f2.8 is almost exactly the same lens as the M 40 f2.8, by 
all accounts.  However it does seem that the former is sharper in the 
center, (the area covered by the APS-C sensor), but softer at the 
edges and in the corners, when tested on 35mm film.  It's possible 
that Pentax tweaked it for APS-C, or it's possible that the admitted 
armature testers were biased.  Personally if Pentax brings out a FF 
camera and I had a choice, (oh wait I do), I'd stick with the FA 43mm 
f1.9.  I expect that the 40mm lenses of any of the three series M, DA 
or the new Mark Newson thingy will disappoint.


Margus Männik wrote:
Rumors? No rumors, D-FA Macros, DA 35, DA40 Limited, DA*55, 
DA*60-250, DA*200, DA*300 all do cover 24x36 frame without problems. 
I have tested 'em all quite carefully with Z-1p body. Haven't 
developed the film with some DA40XS shots, but most probably this 
lens also has no significant vignetting at corners.


BRM


On 6/1/2012 19:28, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called
the new 50 a DFA lens...?  The FF contingent would have exhausted
themselves long ago in all the excitement.  Rumor has it that the DA
60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all

:)
-c
(hopeful, but not holding my breath...)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 
f1.8 which
is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't 
know the
middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames 
admirably, be

designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the 
event of
a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it 
wouldn't
cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as 
the lens
cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So 
either
a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't 
shine,
or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  
I'll not

take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
proposition.

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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-04 Thread Dario Bonazza

Touchè.

Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they are 
used randomly.


Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: P. J. Alling

Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from 
Pentax


Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't
have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job
camouflaging it.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR

On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA 
lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' 
and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens 
coverage.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.




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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-04 Thread P. J. Alling
I believe that Canon removed the aperture ring from their lenses as a 
cost savings and have managed to convince photographers that this is 
more modern and that the lack of this feature is in fact a feature.  
While having manual control of the aperture on a very long lens on the 
body of the camera may be desirable, as the aperture ring could be of 
necessity in an awkward place, it only makes sense to put aperture 
control on a shortish lens and divide up the shooting controls a bit 
more equally between both hands.  At least Pentax and Nikon used to give 
you the choice of how you wanted to work.  Now it's left to Panasonic 
and Samsung to allow that.


On 6/4/2012 7:28 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Touchè.

Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and 
they are used randomly.


Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from 
Pentax


Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't
have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job
camouflaging it.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR 



On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA 
lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture 
ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the 
lens coverage.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from 
Pentax


Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.







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RE: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-04 Thread J.C. O'Connell
THIS IS BAD!

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-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:28 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from
Pentax

Touchè.

Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they are

used randomly.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from 
Pentax

Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't
have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job
camouflaging it.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_
WR

On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA 
 lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
 So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' 
 and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens 
 coverage.
 Dario

 -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

 Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
 announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
 know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
 admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
 ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
 In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
 that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
 package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
 heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
 that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
 this is not necessarily an either or proposition.



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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-04 Thread David Savage
With older non CPU chipped (ie manual) lenses  a higher end body, you
can still use the aperture ring on a Nikon.

DS

On 4 June 2012 21:50, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that Canon removed the aperture ring from their lenses as a cost
 savings and have managed to convince photographers that this is more modern
 and that the lack of this feature is in fact a feature.  While having manual
 control of the aperture on a very long lens on the body of the camera may be
 desirable, as the aperture ring could be of necessity in an awkward place,
 it only makes sense to put aperture control on a shortish lens and divide up
 the shooting controls a bit more equally between both hands.  At least
 Pentax and Nikon used to give you the choice of how you wanted to work.  Now
 it's left to Panasonic and Samsung to allow that.


 On 6/4/2012 7:28 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Touchè.

 Well... now I believe that D-FA and DA no longer have a meaning and they
 are used randomly.

 Dario

 -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:50 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from
 Pentax

 Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't
 have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job
 camouflaging it.


 http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR

 On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA
 lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
 So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring'
 and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage.
 Dario

 -Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

 Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
 announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
 which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
 know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
 admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
 ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
 In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
 and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
 that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
 package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
 heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
 that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
 this is not necessarily an either or proposition.

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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-04 Thread John Sessoms
I suspect Pentax's plans for where they are going were changed a lot 
when they sold themselves to Hoya. I suspect they changed as much again, 
when Hoya sold the camera division to Ricoh.


I also suspect that Pentax marketing  product development are still 
trying to catch up with the changes.


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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think John has hit upon the key point.  The two Pentax sales may
have left them with  a legacy DA lens (which may work with FF) en
route and Ricoh wanting and/or finally letting them produce a FF DSLR.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I suspect Pentax's plans for where they are going were changed a lot when
 they sold themselves to Hoya. I suspect they changed as much again, when
 Hoya sold the camera division to Ricoh.

 I also suspect that Pentax marketing  product development are still trying
 to catch up with the changes.


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Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to 
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't 
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames 
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture 
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with 
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total 
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective 
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera 
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since 
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.


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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread Dario Bonazza
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA lenses 
cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' and 
D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: P. J. Alling

Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread Christine Nielsen
Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called
the new 50 a DFA lens...?  The FF contingent would have exhausted
themselves long ago in all the excitement.  Rumor has it that the DA
60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all

:)
-c
(hopeful, but not holding my breath...)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
 announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which
 is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the
 middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be
 designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
 wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the event of
 a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't
 cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens
 cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So either
 a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine,
 or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  I'll not
 take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
 proposition.

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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread Miserere
On 1 June 2012 12:03, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
 announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which
 is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the
 middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be
 designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
 wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the event of
 a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't
 cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens
 cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So either
 a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine,
 or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  I'll not
 take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
 proposition.


Maybe they'll release a DFA 50mm f/1.7 for the new camera. Without an
aperture ring. Those things are relics of the past.


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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't 
have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job 
camouflaging it.


http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR

On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA 
lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture 
ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the 
lens coverage.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: P. J. Alling
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.




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