Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: I modified the TODO. I think we only need an INT4. I realize INT8 would be for IPV6 but I can't imagine a network that has more than INT4 hosts (not part of the network address). Actually increment the host address isn't a well-defined concept for IPV6. The host part of the address (if you're on an Ethernet) is generally the 64 bit MAC address. -Doug ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Douglas McNaught wrote: Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: I modified the TODO. I think we only need an INT4. I realize INT8 would be for IPV6 but I can't imagine a network that has more than INT4 hosts (not part of the network address). Actually increment the host address isn't a well-defined concept for IPV6. The host part of the address (if you're on an Ethernet) is generally the 64 bit MAC address. So if the network card dies the machine has a new IPv6 address and you just update your DNS? Do you update your routing tables? -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
* Bruce Momjian (pgman@candle.pha.pa.us) wrote: Douglas McNaught wrote: Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: I modified the TODO. I think we only need an INT4. I realize INT8 would be for IPV6 but I can't imagine a network that has more than INT4 hosts (not part of the network address). Actually increment the host address isn't a well-defined concept for IPV6. The host part of the address (if you're on an Ethernet) is generally the 64 bit MAC address. So if the network card dies the machine has a new IPv6 address and you just update your DNS? Do you update your routing tables? Generally routing isn't done to the last 48 bits (dunno where 64 bit came from, but MAC's are 48 last I checked :). DNS to that level would need to be changed though, yes.. :/ (I'm not exactly a big fan of this development, in fact, I think it's a bunch of poo, but then, I don't write the standards). Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Hi, I modified the TODO. I think we only need an INT4. I realize INT8 would be for IPV6 but I can't imagine a network that has more than INT4 hosts (not part of the network address). Actually increment the host address isn't a well-defined concept for IPV6. The host part of the address (if you're on an Ethernet) is generally the 64 bit MAC address. So if the network card dies the machine has a new IPv6 address and you just update your DNS? Do you update your routing tables? There are standards defined for automatically determining the IPv6 address of a host (Stateless Address Autoconfiguration). These include a standard for Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 where the host-part of the IPv6 address changes over time to make it more difficult to identify a single user. The net-part of the IPv6 address can be determined by Router Advertisements. By default an IPv6 address is divided as follows: first 32 bits: ISP next 16 bits: customer next 16 bits: subnet rest (64 bits): host So an ISP gets a /32 from ARIN/RIPE/LACNIC/APNIC/AfriNIC, which assigns a /48 to a customer, which assigns a /64 to each separate network. There are ISPs that have so many customers that they got more than a /32, and if a customer needs more than 16 bits for subnets they can get a bigger block than a /48. This addressing scheme means that even a home-user is a customer and gets a /48 with 16 bits for subnetting. There are discussions going on about giving home users a /56 block instead, but I haven't heard a final decision about that yet (in the RIPE region). From http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_IPv6InterfaceIdentifiersandPhysicalAddressMapping.htm: The IEEE has also defined a format called the 64-bit extended unique identifier, abbreviated EUI-64. It is similar to the 48-bit MAC format, except that while the OUI remains at 24 bits, the device identifier becomes 40 bits instead of 24. This provides gives each manufacturer 65,536 times as many device addresses within its OUI. A form of this format, called modified EUI-64, has been adopted for IPv6 interface identifiers. To get the modified EUI-64 interface ID for a device, you simply take the EUI-64 address and change the 7th bit from the left (the universal/local or U/L bit) from a zero to a one. Because the 7th bit is always a one with auto-configuration, addresses with 7th bit zero are still free to be manually assigned. I hope this helps a little... Sander. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Patrick Welche wrote: On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 11:12:54PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Added to TODO: * Allow INET + INT4/INT8 to increment the host part of the address, or throw an error on overflow I have not heard any use-case for adding to the network value if INET, and by not using it, we can have an easy operator API. Thanks - I'll look at the code that was posted.. I modified the TODO. I think we only need an INT4. I realize INT8 would be for IPV6 but I can't imagine a network that has more than INT4 hosts (not part of the network address). -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
BM Would you modify this so it can go in /contrib or pgfoundry? Is there BM general interest for this? Actually, I suggested to do such or similar function as internal. PostgreSQL has inet/cidr - excellent data type and good facilities to examine and compare inet values, but has no facilities to modify them (i.e. get-change-return operations). There is place for many useful operators and functions to do but they not invented enough yet (to supplement with existing facilites and each other). Only facility that has no doubt is increment/decrement inet address value with numeric value. It nicely supplements existing inet compare operators (that compares two addresses as numeric values). Also, it can be used to override + and - operators between inet and numeric values. I understand, that you have more important things to do, so I write this function, to save your time. Maybe, it is good idea, to implement such functions separatelly as /contrib ... for a start ... Live example for inet_inc() (as + operator) (PL/pgSQL) -- (try to) Peek address from group pool SELECT next INTO next_ip FROM peer_ranges WHERE group_id = (SELECT id FROM peer_groups WHERE name = $3) AND next last ORDER BY first LIMIT 1; -- Return NULL if pool is empty IF NOT FOUND THEN RAISE NOTICE ''Group address pool is empty''; RETURN NULL; END IF; -- Update pool UPDATE peer_ranges SET next = next_ip + 1 WHERE next = next_ip; RETURN next_ip; where, peer_ranges is: CREATE TABLE peer_ranges ( group_id bigint NOT NULL REFERENCES peer_groups (id), first inet NOT NULL UNIQUE, next inet NOT NULL UNIQUE, last inet NOT NULL UNIQUE ); Thank you, Ilya A. Kovalenko (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 08:58:01PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Would you modify this so it can go in /contrib or pgfoundry? Is there general interest for this? I was about to sit down and write the same function yesterday, when as if by magic this appeared. In my case it is to loop over ip numbers in a class C looking for a free one to allocate. So, from here there is interest.. Cheers, Patrick ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Ilya A. Kovalenko wrote: BM Would you modify this so it can go in /contrib or pgfoundry? Is there BM general interest for this? Actually, I suggested to do such or similar function as internal. PostgreSQL has inet/cidr - excellent data type and good facilities to examine and compare inet values, but has no facilities to modify them (i.e. get-change-return operations). There is place for many useful operators and functions to do but they not invented enough yet (to supplement with existing facilites and each other). Only facility that has no doubt is increment/decrement inet address value with numeric value. It nicely supplements existing inet compare operators (that compares two addresses as numeric values). Also, it can be used to override + and - operators between inet and numeric values. I understand, that you have more important things to do, so I write this function, to save your time. Agreed. Let's implement '+/-' for 'inet + int4' and put it in the backend as standard (I can help do the system table stuff if you give me the C functions). However, how do we handle cases where int4 255. I am thinking we should support only inet + inet, like this: SELECT '1.2.3.4'::inet + '0.0.1.2'::inet; But how do we do: SELECT '1.2.3.255'::inet + '0.0.0.1'::inet; I assume this becomes '1.2.4.0'. Inet +/- inet seems the most flexible because it allows you to add to any part of the mask, rather than just the lower-order bytes, or trying to make sense that 256 adds like '0.0.1.0'. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: am thinking we should support only inet + inet, like this: SELECT '1.2.3.4'::inet + '0.0.1.2'::inet; I don't think inet+inet makes any sense. I think inet+int4 should work by adding to the host address and overflowing if it exceeds the network mask. Ie, 10.0.0.0/24 + 1 = 10.0.0.1/24 10.0.0.255/24 + 1 = overflow Or 10.1/16 + 1 = 10.1.0.1/16 10.1/16 + 16384 = 10.1.64.0/16 10.1/16 + 65536 = overflow -- greg ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Greg Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: am thinking we should support only inet + inet, like this: SELECT '1.2.3.4'::inet + '0.0.1.2'::inet; I don't think inet+inet makes any sense. I think inet+int4 should work by adding to the host address and overflowing if it exceeds the network mask. Ie, 10.0.0.0/24 + 1 = 10.0.0.1/24 10.0.0.255/24 + 1 = overflow Or 10.1/16 + 1 = 10.1.0.1/16 10.1/16 + 16384 = 10.1.64.0/16 10.1/16 + 65536 = overflow So, do not overflow? We can do that. Another idea Tom had was creating a function that increments/decrements the address or the network portion of the address, and if you increment past the non-network portion that overflows too. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: Ie, 10.0.0.0/24 + 1 = 10.0.0.1/24 10.0.0.255/24 + 1 = overflow Or 10.1/16 + 1 = 10.1.0.1/16 10.1/16 + 16384 = 10.1.64.0/16 10.1/16 + 65536 = overflow So, do not overflow? You mean not doing modulus arithemtic? Yes. Overflow instead. I see a use case for of generating addresses based on a sequence or some primary key from the database. Something like CREATE SEQUENCE hosts_ip_seq MAXVALUE 65536; ALTER TABLE hosts ALTER ip SET DEFAULT '10.0.0.0/16'::inet + nextval(hosts_ip_seq') Using the primary key or some foreign key in the table would require a trigger which would take too much work to cons up an example for. -- greg ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 12:03:27 -0400, Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us wrote: Agreed. Let's implement '+/-' for 'inet + int4' and put it in the backend as standard (I can help do the system table stuff if you give me the C functions). However, how do we handle cases where int4 255. I am thinking we should support only inet + inet, like this: SELECT '1.2.3.4'::inet + '0.0.1.2'::inet; I don't think this operation makes much sense. Adding an integer makes some sense, but I think the original problem would be better solved by having a set returning function generate the possible network addresses to be allocated and store that set in a table. I don't think assuming everthing is a /24 is a good idea. If wrapping is to be done, there should be some mask specified. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
BM Greg Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes: am thinking we should support only inet + inet, like this: SELECT '1.2.3.4'::inet + '0.0.1.2'::inet; I don't think inet+inet makes any sense. I think inet+int4 should work by adding to the host address and overflowing if it exceeds the network mask. Ie, 10.0.0.0/24 + 1 = 10.0.0.1/24 10.0.0.255/24 + 1 = overflow Or 10.1/16 + 1 = 10.1.0.1/16 10.1/16 + 16384 = 10.1.64.0/16 10.1/16 + 65536 = overflow BM So, do not overflow? We can do that. Another idea Tom had was creating BM a function that increments/decrements the address or the network portion BM of the address, and if you increment past the non-network portion that BM overflows too. Hmm, actually, you can do several functions to increase/decrease network address with different overflow models (octet-overflow, host part overflow, full address overflow, or without overflow as special case), for flexibility. Another question, what model choose for '+/-' ... BTW, why 'inet + int4' (not int8), what about v6 ? Few words for 'inet + inet'. It's can be useful for IPv6 addresses (because you don't have 128-bit numeric type, except, maybe, 'numeric' one). But, there is another way to reach higher octets - use existing inet_{send|receive} functions. disclaimer text='raw ideas and thoughts' Or invent something new like this: -- src index value FUNCTION extract_octet(inet, integer) RETURNS integer FUNCTION extract_word (inet, integer) RETURNS int2 FUNCTION extract_dword(inet, integer) RETURNS int4 FUNCTION extract_qword(inet, integer) RETURNS int8 --src index value FUNCTION replace_octet(inet, integer, integer) RETURNS inet FUNCTION replace_word (inet, integer, int2)RETURNS inet FUNCTION replace_dword(inet, integer, int4)RETURNS inet FUNCTION replace_qword(inet, integer, int8)RETURNS inet (not established with signed 'int%') /disclaimer Ilya A. Kovalenko ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
GS I see a use case for of generating addresses based on a sequence or some GS primary key from the database. GS Something like GS CREATE SEQUENCE hosts_ip_seq MAXVALUE 65536; GS ALTER TABLE hosts ALTER ip SET DEFAULT '10.0.0.0/16'::inet + nextval(hosts_ip_seq') hmm, not quite good idea - SEQUENCEs, by design, does not rollback next value on transation rollback, so you'll have holes on address range when other values will break some constraints or concurrent sessions appears. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Would you modify this so it can go in /contrib or pgfoundry? Is there general interest for this? --- Ilya A. Kovalenko wrote: Greetings, I suggest function for inet increment w/ int8 (signed). FUNCTION inet_inc(int, int8) RETURNS inet Function, useful for making address pools (using also existing inet compare functions to trap boundaries). Notes: This version lets address wrap around 0-*ff boundary. Uses couple of non-POSIX functions - betoh64() and htobe64() Tested on i386 with OpenBSD 3.7 PostgreSQL 8.0.2 - #include sys/types.h #include sys/socket.h #include netinet/in.h #include arpa/inet.h #include postgres.h /* general Postgres declarations */ #include fmgr.h /* for argument/result macros */ #include utils/inet.h Datum inet_inc(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS); //-- stolen from backend/utils/adt/network.c #define ip_family(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-family) #define ip_bits(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-bits) #define ip_type(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-type) #define ip_addr(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-ipaddr) #define ip_maxbits(inetptr) \ (ip_family(inetptr) == PGSQL_AF_INET ? 32 : 128) static int ip_addrsize(inet *inetptr) { switch (ip_family(inetptr)) { case PGSQL_AF_INET: return 4; case PGSQL_AF_INET6: return 16; default: return 0; } } //--- PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(inet_inc); Datum inet_inc(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS) { inet*src = PG_GETARG_INET_P(0); int64arg = PG_GETARG_INT64(1); inet*dst; uint64 wsp; // allocate destination structure dst = (inet *) palloc0(VARHDRSZ + sizeof(inet_struct)); // copy to destination *((inet_struct *)VARDATA(dst)) = *((inet_struct *)VARDATA(src)); if (ip_family(dst) == PGSQL_AF_INET) { // Increment v4 address w/ item truncated to 32 bits *((uint32*)(ip_addr(dst))) = htonl(ntohl(*((int32*)(ip_addr(dst + (int32)arg); } else { // Increment v6 address low qword (store to workspace) wsp = htobe64(betoh64(*((int64*)(ip_addr(dst) + 8))) + arg); *((uint64*)(ip_addr(dst) + 8)) = wsp; // Carry/borrow high qword if ( arg 0 wsp *((uint64*)(ip_addr(src) + 8)) ) { *((int64*)(ip_addr(dst))) = htobe64(betoh64(*((int64*)(ip_addr(dst + 1); } else if ( arg 0 wsp *((uint64*)(ip_addr(src) + 8)) ) { *((int64*)(ip_addr(dst))) = htobe64(betoh64(*((int64*)(ip_addr(dst - 1); } } // Return result VARATT_SIZEP(dst) = VARHDRSZ + ((char *) ip_addr(dst) - (char *) VARDATA(dst)) + ip_addrsize(dst); PG_RETURN_INET_P(dst); } - Thank you Ilya A. Kovalenko (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) SpecialEQ SW section JSC Oganer-Service P.S. Treat as Public Domain ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
Greetings, I suggest function for inet increment w/ int8 (signed). FUNCTION inet_inc(int, int8) RETURNS inet Function, useful for making address pools (using also existing inet compare functions to trap boundaries). Notes: This version lets address wrap around 0-*ff boundary. Uses couple of non-POSIX functions - betoh64() and htobe64() Tested on i386 with OpenBSD 3.7 PostgreSQL 8.0.2 - #include sys/types.h #include sys/socket.h #include netinet/in.h #include arpa/inet.h #include postgres.h /* general Postgres declarations */ #include fmgr.h /* for argument/result macros */ #include utils/inet.h Datum inet_inc(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS); //-- stolen from backend/utils/adt/network.c #define ip_family(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-family) #define ip_bits(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-bits) #define ip_type(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-type) #define ip_addr(inetptr) \ (((inet_struct *)VARDATA(inetptr))-ipaddr) #define ip_maxbits(inetptr) \ (ip_family(inetptr) == PGSQL_AF_INET ? 32 : 128) static int ip_addrsize(inet *inetptr) { switch (ip_family(inetptr)) { case PGSQL_AF_INET: return 4; case PGSQL_AF_INET6: return 16; default: return 0; } } //--- PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(inet_inc); Datum inet_inc(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS) { inet*src = PG_GETARG_INET_P(0); int64arg = PG_GETARG_INT64(1); inet*dst; uint64 wsp; // allocate destination structure dst = (inet *) palloc0(VARHDRSZ + sizeof(inet_struct)); // copy to destination *((inet_struct *)VARDATA(dst)) = *((inet_struct *)VARDATA(src)); if (ip_family(dst) == PGSQL_AF_INET) { // Increment v4 address w/ item truncated to 32 bits *((uint32*)(ip_addr(dst))) = htonl(ntohl(*((int32*)(ip_addr(dst + (int32)arg); } else { // Increment v6 address low qword (store to workspace) wsp = htobe64(betoh64(*((int64*)(ip_addr(dst) + 8))) + arg); *((uint64*)(ip_addr(dst) + 8)) = wsp; // Carry/borrow high qword if ( arg 0 wsp *((uint64*)(ip_addr(src) + 8)) ) { *((int64*)(ip_addr(dst))) = htobe64(betoh64(*((int64*)(ip_addr(dst + 1); } else if ( arg 0 wsp *((uint64*)(ip_addr(src) + 8)) ) { *((int64*)(ip_addr(dst))) = htobe64(betoh64(*((int64*)(ip_addr(dst - 1); } } // Return result VARATT_SIZEP(dst) = VARHDRSZ + ((char *) ip_addr(dst) - (char *) VARDATA(dst)) + ip_addrsize(dst); PG_RETURN_INET_P(dst); } - Thank you Ilya A. Kovalenko (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) SpecialEQ SW section JSC Oganer-Service P.S. Treat as Public Domain ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] inet increment w/ int8
oops - FUNCTION inet_inc(int, int8) RETURNS inet + FUNCTION inet_inc(inet, int8) RETURNS inet ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend