Re: [PHP-DOC] [HEADSUP] Call for help

2009-07-05 Thread Peter Cowburn
 2009/7/5 Daniel Brown paras...@gmail.com:
 Still, there are a couple of minor changes
 and some typofixes herein.

I also made a few, very minor changes in an effort to make sentences
flow a little better (for me at least) and to fix an existing typo
(explaination).

 My only real question is if we want to
 leave the kick-ass portion in there, since it's going on the main
 page, or if we'd want to approach it with a slightly more professional
 tenor.  I don't think it's inappropriate to a level of being obscene,
 but maybe a bit abrasive.

For what it's worth, I'd rather see kick-ass awesome in there than
it being left out. :)

    Regardless, the new XML is attached.

Ditto.
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entry xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom;
  titleThin documentation?/title
  idhttp://www.php.net/archive/2009.php#id2009-07-05-1/id
  published2009-07-05T01:40:12+02:00/published
  updated2009-07-05T01:40:12+02:00/updated
  category term=frontpage label=PHP.net frontpage news/
  link href=http://www.php.net/index.php#id2009-07-05-1; rel=alternate type=text/html/
  link href=http://www.php.net/archive/2009.php#id2009-07-05-1; rel=via type=text/html/
  content type=xhtml
div xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
 pSince the inception of PHP it has been known for having _the_ strongbest/strong, kick-ass awesome documentation./p
 pIn recent years, some have commented on the fact that the documentation of new features is insufficient, and lacks in-detail explanations and descriptions of common what-if scenarios./p
 pEffective immediately, we are placing an open call for volunteers to help the project to get up to speed with the massive changes PHP has undergone in recent years, and to catch up with all the new features the language has to offer./p
 pObviously any and all contributions to the project are very much appreciated and getting a CVS account along with the appropriate karma is a very simple task./p
 pIf you are interested in helping out, please contact the documentation team at a href=mailto:phpdoc@lists.php.netphpdoc@lists.php.net/a today./p
/div
  /content
/entry


Re: [PHP-DOC] [HEADSUP] Call for help

2009-07-05 Thread G. T. Stresen-Reuter

On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote:


For what it's worth, I'd rather see kick-ass awesome in there than
it being left out. :)


I agree!

Ted S-R
http://tedmasterweb.com



[PHP-DOC] Notes Status, 21855 total

2009-07-05 Thread phpdoc
Following are the top 20 pages of the manual, sorted by the number
of user notes contributed. These sections could use a polish, those
notes represent 6.5% of the 21855 total user notes.

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   75  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.number-format.php
   74  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php
   74  | http://php.net/manual/en/ref.com.php
   73  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.serialize.php
   73  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-merge.php
   72  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.xml-parse-into-struct.php
   72  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.date.php
   71  | http://php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.php
   71  | http://php.net/manual/en/install.windows.php
   70  | http://php.net/manual/en/ref.exec.php
   70  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-unique.php
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   69  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.session-set-save-handler.php
   68  | http://php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.overloading.php
   68  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.imagejpeg.php
   68  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.strtotime.php
   68  | http://php.net/manual/en/ref.mysql.php
   66  | http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-search.php



[PHP-DOC] Re: [HEADSUP] Call for help

2009-07-05 Thread Peter Beverloo


Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote in message 
news:7f3ed2c30907041706k70395232nbe677b06588a0...@mail.gmail.com...

Hi all

The PHP documentation used to be known to be fckingeyh kickass awesome
documentations, but since PHP 5 we have been struggling with keeping
up with all the new features and extensions that have been
implemented.

I would like to place an open call for contributions, of noone
objects, as of tomorrow (July 6th).
Attached is an NEWS entry I will be committing tomorrow morning - but
I would really appreciate if an native-English speaker could read over
it.

Any and all suggestions for improvements would be very appreciated!

-Hannes



With the documentation moving to PO files soon (as well as changes around 
the PhD editor GSoC project), wouldn't it be wiser to wait until at least 
one of them has been implemented? From what I understand the 
gettext-conversion will be completed later this month.


Thanks,
Peter 



Re: [PHP-DOC] What can go in a package's Introduction?

2009-07-05 Thread Daniel Convissor
Hi Eddie:

 3) Why use Reflection? - an analysis of realistic cases where
 Reflection is useful, perhaps linking ot external resources for
 further research (wikipedia, probably)
 
 And basically, I've not seen (not that it doesn't exist), an example
 of #3 in use in the PHP manual any where, nor can I find any sort of
 RFC or guideline forbidding it.  So, my question is whether or not
 that sort of documentation is allowed or not.

You're making a very good point.  It makes a lot of sense to have a 
Purpose section.  A simple paragraph or two telling folks how this 
class/extension/whatever can make your life better.

Thanks,

--Dan

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Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [HEADSUP] Call for help

2009-07-05 Thread G. T. Stresen-Reuter


On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Peter Beverloo wrote:

With the documentation moving to PO files soon (as well as changes  
around the PhD editor GSoC project)


I follow this list pretty closely but I must have missed this (rather  
important) news item. When will the documentation move to PO files?  
How will this change the translation process and source files? Is this  
move documented somewhere? In short, is there an other list where such  
decisions are made that I'm unaware of?


Thanks in advance.

Ted Stresen-Reuter
http://tedmasterweb.com



Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [HEADSUP] Call for help

2009-07-05 Thread Philip Olson


On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:53 PM, G. T. Stresen-Reuter wrote:



On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Peter Beverloo wrote:

With the documentation moving to PO files soon (as well as changes  
around the PhD editor GSoC project)


I follow this list pretty closely but I must have missed this  
(rather important) news item. When will the documentation move to PO  
files? How will this change the translation process and source  
files? Is this move documented somewhere? In short, is there an  
other list where such decisions are made that I'm unaware of?


Several translation related discussions have taken place on the  
subject although typically they have been short threads. The English  
documentation process will not change as PO files are only used by  
translations. The process has been poorly documented (by me) but is  
moving forward. It's a bit chaotic especially considering the rush to  
get it done before the project moves to SVN but here are a few recent  
threads on the topic:


 - http://markmail.org/thread/iqxkiekmvz6h43lt
 - http://markmail.org/thread/kidqiimuglh2tmfh
 - http://markmail.org/message/fduqvora3lef4cit

A test repository with PO files are in CVS although they are only  
English (POT) and Japanese as it's purely for testing purposes:


 - http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/phpdoc-po/

How PO files will be managed is still up in the air but we're in the  
midst of testing out several systems including:


 - http://www.transifex.net/projects/php/
 - http://translate.php.net/

Neither of the above work today as our project appears too large for  
transifex.net to handle (today, they are discussing how to solve this)  
but they offer a system that could coincide with whatever else we  
choose as it offers help from an additional translation community. And  
our Pootle setup (at translate.php.net) is sketchy with a strange bug  
(thanks to me) but once Michael has time he'll look into it as my  
sysadmin skills sit right around null.


So that's the situation. Given the mere size of this move, the SVN  
rush, and my lack of knowledge (but it's interesting to learn this)  
I'm afraid it won't go smoothly. All help is desired, as are questions  
and/or answers.


Regards,
Philip