turn off mailer daemon returns
Hi everybody, I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? thanks in advance,
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
Any idea? Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > Hi everybody, > > I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a > MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? > > thanks in advance,
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the queue But I am not sure really want to do this. Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the real problem you want to solve ? On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: Any idea? Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : Hi everybody, I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? thanks in advance,
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
> Any idea? > > Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 ? 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a ?crit : > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a > > MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? Yes. People who want to turn off error reports usually have a different problem that they don't want to fix. I suggest that you fix the right problem. Wietse
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on SMTP). I am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM operator, I do some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the destination. Sometimes for example the recipient may be rejected by the remote mailer so I need to intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order to modify some MM4 parameters then send it to the origin. The problem is the recipient of the mailer daemon receives 2 mails: one correct sent by my application, another incorrect sent by postfix. So I want to block the mail sent by postfix. Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0530, Ram a écrit : > You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the > queue > But I am not sure really want to do this. > Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the > real problem you want to solve ? > > > > > > On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: > > > Any idea? > > > > Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT > > > send a MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is > > > wrong? > > > > > > thanks in advance,
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on SMTP). I am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM operator, I do some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the destination. Sometimes for example the recipient may be rejected by the remote mailer so I need to intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order to modify some MM4 parameters then send it to the origin. The problem is the recipient of the mailer daemon receives 2 mails: one correct sent by my application, another incorrect sent by postfix. So I want to block the mail sent by postfix. I hope my explanations clear, thx Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 09:19 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt a écrit : > * Wael MANAI : > > Any idea? > > > > Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a > > > MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? > > Why is your server bouncing mails? Please show an example >
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:49, Wael MANAI wrote: > Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on SMTP). I > am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM operator, I do > some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the destination. Sometimes for > example the recipient may be rejected by the remote mailer so I need to > intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order to modify some MM4 parameters > then send it to the origin. The problem is the recipient of the mailer daemon > receives 2 mails: one correct sent by my application, another incorrect sent > by postfix. So I want to block the mail sent by postfix. Hmm, not familiar with MM4, but have you looked at the various bounce related configuration options that Postfix provides? This is where I would start looking; http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_service_name http://www.postfix.org/bounce.8.html http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_template_file http://www.postfix.org/bounce.5.html http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes And what Ram suggested; http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#soft_bounce Perhaps it's possible to use a custom bounce service, a custom bounce template, or something similar, and have Postfix generate the format you need? Cya, Jona -- > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0530, Ram a écrit : >> You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the queue >> But I am not sure really want to do this. >> Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the real >> problem you want to solve ? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: >>> Any idea? >>> >>> Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : Hi everybody, I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? thanks in advance,
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
Thank you Jona, i am gona see your links Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 11:50 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:49, Wael MANAI wrote: > > > Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on SMTP). > > I am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM operator, I do > > some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the destination. Sometimes for > > example the recipient may be rejected by the remote mailer so I need to > > intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order to modify some MM4 parameters > > then send it to the origin. The problem is the recipient of the mailer > > daemon receives 2 mails: one correct sent by my application, another > > incorrect sent by postfix. So I want to block the mail sent by postfix. > > Hmm, not familiar with MM4, but have you looked at the various bounce > related configuration options that Postfix provides? > > This is where I would start looking; > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_service_name > http://www.postfix.org/bounce.8.html > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_template_file > http://www.postfix.org/bounce.5.html > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes > > And what Ram suggested; > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#soft_bounce > > Perhaps it's possible to use a custom bounce service, a custom bounce > template, or something similar, and have Postfix generate the format > you need? > > Cya, > Jona > > -- > > > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0530, Ram a écrit : > >> You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the queue > >> But I am not sure really want to do this. > >> Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the real > >> problem you want to solve ? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: > >>> Any idea? > >>> > >>> Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > Hi everybody, > > I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a > MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? > > thanks in advance, >
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I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with soft_bounce and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the notification is still sent to sender. I need to intercept this message in order to modify one parameter value before sending it. Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 15:09 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > Thank you Jona, i am gona see your links > > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 11:50 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > > > On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:49, Wael MANAI wrote: > > > > > Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on > > > SMTP). I am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM > > > operator, I do some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the destination. > > > Sometimes for example the recipient may be rejected by the remote mailer > > > so I need to intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order to modify some > > > MM4 parameters then send it to the origin. The problem is the recipient > > > of the mailer daemon receives 2 mails: one correct sent by my > > > application, another incorrect sent by postfix. So I want to block the > > > mail sent by postfix. > > > > Hmm, not familiar with MM4, but have you looked at the various bounce > > related configuration options that Postfix provides? > > > > This is where I would start looking; > > > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_service_name > > http://www.postfix.org/bounce.8.html > > > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_template_file > > http://www.postfix.org/bounce.5.html > > > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes > > > > And what Ram suggested; > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#soft_bounce > > > > Perhaps it's possible to use a custom bounce service, a custom bounce > > template, or something similar, and have Postfix generate the format > > you need? > > > > Cya, > > Jona > > > > -- > > > > > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0530, Ram a écrit : > > >> You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the queue > > >> But I am not sure really want to do this. > > >> Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the > > >> real problem you want to solve ? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: > > >>> Any idea? > > >>> > > >>> Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > > Hi everybody, > > > > I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a > > MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? > > > > thanks in advance, > >
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On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:31, Wael MANAI wrote: > I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with soft_bounce > and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the notification is still > sent to sender. I need to intercept this message in order to modify one > parameter value before sending it. Which parameter value are you trying to modify? Cya, Jona -- > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 15:09 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : >> Thank you Jona, i am gona see your links >> >> Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 11:50 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : >>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:49, Wael MANAI wrote: >>> >>> > Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on >>> > SMTP). I am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM >>> > operator, I do some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the destination. >>> > Sometimes for example the recipient may be rejected by the remote mailer >>> > so I need to intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order to modify some >>> > MM4 parameters then send it to the origin. The problem is the recipient >>> > of the mailer daemon receives 2 mails: one correct sent by my >>> > application, another incorrect sent by postfix. So I want to block the >>> > mail sent by postfix. >>> >>> Hmm, not familiar with MM4, but have you looked at the various bounce >>> related configuration options that Postfix provides? >>> >>> This is where I would start looking; >>> >>> >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_service_name >>> http://www.postfix.org/bounce.8.html >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_template_file >>> http://www.postfix.org/bounce.5.html >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes >>> >>> >>> And what Ram suggested; >>> >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#soft_bounce >>> >>> >>> Perhaps it's possible to use a custom bounce service, a custom bounce >>> template, or something similar, and have Postfix generate the format >>> you need? >>> >>> Cya, >>> Jona >>> >>> -- >>> >>> > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0530, Ram a écrit : >>> >> You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the queue >>> >> But I am not sure really want to do this. >>> >> Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the >>> >> real problem you want to solve ? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: >>> >>> Any idea? >>> >>> >>> >>> Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send a >>> MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? >>> >>> thanks in advance, >>> >>>
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
MM4 parameter X-Mms-Transaction-ID thx Le lundi 04 juin 2012 à 13:51 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:31, Wael MANAI wrote: > > > I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with > > soft_bounce and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the > > notification is still sent to sender. I need to intercept this message in > > order to modify one parameter value before sending it. > > Which parameter value are you trying to modify? > > Cya, > Jona > > -- > > > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 15:09 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > >> Thank you Jona, i am gona see your links > >> > >> Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 11:50 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > >>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:49, Wael MANAI wrote: > >>> > >>> > Well, I use postfix for MMS sending (MM4 protocol which is based on > >>> > SMTP). I am working on a hub system i.e I received MMS from one GSM > >>> > operator, I do some adaptations and I forward the MMS to the > >>> > destination. Sometimes for example the recipient may be rejected by the > >>> > remote mailer so I need to intercept this mailer daemon (done) in order > >>> > to modify some MM4 parameters then send it to the origin. The problem > >>> > is the recipient of the mailer daemon receives 2 mails: one correct > >>> > sent by my application, another incorrect sent by postfix. So I want to > >>> > block the mail sent by postfix. > >>> > >>> Hmm, not familiar with MM4, but have you looked at the various bounce > >>> related configuration options that Postfix provides? > >>> > >>> This is where I would start looking; > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_service_name > >>> http://www.postfix.org/bounce.8.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#bounce_template_file > >>> http://www.postfix.org/bounce.5.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes > >>> > >>> > >>> And what Ram suggested; > >>> > >>> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#soft_bounce > >>> > >>> > >>> Perhaps it's possible to use a custom bounce service, a custom bounce > >>> template, or something similar, and have Postfix generate the format > >>> you need? > >>> > >>> Cya, > >>> Jona > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > Le vendredi 01 juin 2012 à 13:13 +0530, Ram a écrit : > >>> >> You can enable soft bounce. So NDR mails will be pending in the queue > >>> >> But I am not sure really want to do this. > >>> >> Why should you not notify senders of delivery failures ? What is the > >>> >> real problem you want to solve ? > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On 06/01/2012 12:36 PM, Wael MANAI wrote: > >>> >>> Any idea? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 à 17:49 +0200, Wael MANAI a écrit : > >>> Hi everybody, > >>> > >>> I would like to know if it's possible to prevent postfix to NOT send > >>> a MAILER DAEMON email back to the sender if something is wrong? > >>> > >>> thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> >
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
On Jun 5, 2012, at 16:04, Wael MANAI wrote: > MM4 parameter X-Mms-Transaction-ID First, read up: http://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting Then have another look at the documentation; http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#header_checks http://www.postfix.org/header_checks.5.html With 'internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce' and the header_checks, you might be able to redirect your message, feed it to whatever software generates the 'X-Mms-Transaction-ID' for you, and then reinsert it for delivery. If the transaction ID is the same for all messages it might even be as easy as using a 'PREPEND' or 'REPLACE'. Cya, Jona -- > Le lundi 04 juin 2012 à 13:51 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:31, Wael MANAI wrote: >> >> I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with soft_bounce >> and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the notification is still >> sent to sender. I need to intercept this message in order to modify one >> parameter value before sending it. > > Which parameter value are you trying to modify? > > Cya, > Jona
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
with internal_mail_filter_classes and header_checks I can redirect the message to my software in order to change X-Mms-Transaction-ID parameter. But when I send the mailer-daemon with the good parameter, the message loops. Here are my settings: In main.cf: internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix_out/header_checks in /etc/postfix_out/header_checks /^From: *MAILER-DAEMON/ FILTER mail-postfix: BR Le mardi 05 juin 2012 à 23:28 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > On Jun 5, 2012, at 16:04, Wael MANAI wrote: > > > MM4 parameter X-Mms-Transaction-ID > > > First, read up: http://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting > > Then have another look at the documentation; > > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#header_checks > http://www.postfix.org/header_checks.5.html > > With 'internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce' and the header_checks, > you might be able to redirect your message, feed it to whatever > software generates the 'X-Mms-Transaction-ID' for you, and then > reinsert it for delivery. > > If the transaction ID is the same for all messages it might even be > as easy as using a 'PREPEND' or 'REPLACE'. > > Cya, > Jona > > -- > > > Le lundi 04 juin 2012 à 13:51 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:31, Wael MANAI wrote: > >> > >> I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with > >> soft_bounce and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the > >> notification is still sent to sender. I need to intercept this message in > >> order to modify one parameter value before sending it. > > > > Which parameter value are you trying to modify? > > > > Cya, > > Jona >
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
On 6/12/2012 11:47 AM, Wael MANAI wrote: > with internal_mail_filter_classes and header_checks I can redirect > the message to my software in order to change X-Mms-Transaction-ID > parameter. But when I send the mailer-daemon with the good > parameter, the message loops. > > Here are my settings: > In main.cf: > internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce > header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix_out/header_checks > > in /etc/postfix_out/header_checks > /^From: *MAILER-DAEMON/ FILTER mail-postfix: you need to turn off header_checks in your mail-postfix transport. see the archives for details. -- Noel Jones > > BR > > Le mardi 05 juin 2012 à 23:28 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : >> On Jun 5, 2012, at 16:04, Wael MANAI wrote: >> >> > MM4 parameter X-Mms-Transaction-ID >> >> >> First, read up: http://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting >> >> Then have another look at the documentation; >> >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#header_checks >> http://www.postfix.org/header_checks.5.html >> >> With 'internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce' and the header_checks, >> you might be able to redirect your message, feed it to whatever >> software generates the 'X-Mms-Transaction-ID' for you, and then >> reinsert it for delivery. >> >> If the transaction ID is the same for all messages it might even be >> as easy as using a 'PREPEND' or 'REPLACE'. >> >> Cya, >> Jona >> >> -- >> >> > Le lundi 04 juin 2012 à 13:51 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : >> >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:31, Wael MANAI wrote: >> >> >> >> I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with >> >> soft_bounce and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the >> >> notification is still sent to sender. I need to intercept this message in >> >> order to modify one parameter value before sending it. >> > >> > Which parameter value are you trying to modify? >> > >> > Cya, >> > Jona >>
Re: turn off mailer daemon returns
Hi, Just to thank everybody, now I received all the mailer-daemon and I can control the messages sent. Le mardi 12 juin 2012 à 12:38 -0500, Noel Jones a écrit : > On 6/12/2012 11:47 AM, Wael MANAI wrote: > > with internal_mail_filter_classes and header_checks I can redirect > > the message to my software in order to change X-Mms-Transaction-ID > > parameter. But when I send the mailer-daemon with the good > > parameter, the message loops. > > > > Here are my settings: > > In main.cf: > > internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce > > header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix_out/header_checks > > > > in /etc/postfix_out/header_checks > > /^From: *MAILER-DAEMON/ FILTER mail-postfix: > > > you need to turn off header_checks in your mail-postfix transport. > see the archives for details. > > > -- Noel Jones > > > > > > > > > > BR > > > > Le mardi 05 juin 2012 à 23:28 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > >> On Jun 5, 2012, at 16:04, Wael MANAI wrote: > >> > >> > MM4 parameter X-Mms-Transaction-ID > >> > >> > >> First, read up: http://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting > >> > >> Then have another look at the documentation; > >> > >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#internal_mail_filter_classes > >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#header_checks > >> http://www.postfix.org/header_checks.5.html > >> > >> With 'internal_mail_filter_classes = bounce' and the header_checks, > >> you might be able to redirect your message, feed it to whatever > >> software generates the 'X-Mms-Transaction-ID' for you, and then > >> reinsert it for delivery. > >> > >> If the transaction ID is the same for all messages it might even be > >> as easy as using a 'PREPEND' or 'REPLACE'. > >> > >> Cya, > >> Jona > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > Le lundi 04 juin 2012 à 13:51 +0200, DTNX Postmaster a écrit : > >> >> On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:31, Wael MANAI wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I read the links and tried some configuration modifications with > >> >> soft_bounce and internal_mail_filter_classes parameters but the > >> >> notification is still sent to sender. I need to intercept this message > >> >> in order to modify one parameter value before sending it. > >> > > >> > Which parameter value are you trying to modify? > >> > > >> > Cya, > >> > Jona > >> > >
