Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Chris Smart

Scott, that is the most useful post I've read on any list in a long time!

To summarize: don't just come across as a winy 
entitled blind person with an enormous chip on 
your shoulder. (grin) Oops, I'll leave this to 
Scott who is much more diplomatic.


At 10:27 PM 6/17/2014, you wrote:

I'm not saying don't write to people, I'm saying take the approach
that's gonna get on the right side of people and use your energy the
most effective way you can. It doesn't hurt to write to developers and
companies to make them aware of your existence and whatever usability
issues you're experiencing. It can, however, hurt a lot to get off on
the wrong foot with whoever reads that initial approach. That's why I
make contact as a humble end user, and leave the legal bombs to be
dropped by the type of people who actually understand the legalities
and know how to speak the language of law. Similarly, it doesn't hurt
to make anyone aware that you're a student, but personally I'd steer
well clear of trying to use education as some sort of game-changer
unless you're employed by a name that carries some weight in that
field. My point is that some of the words you're using can very easily
come over as abrupt and/or threatening. That's something you need to
consider because A) you don't want whoever reads your email to finish
reading with that impression as the takeaway and B) you're not in a
position to pull out the big guns and back up the type of language
you're using. None of us are.

For what it's worth, my advice is to forget the law, forget that
you're writing on behalf of however many thousand blind people, and
concentrate on how you're coming across. Every positive change I've
had a hand in making when it comes to accessibility has been as a
result of concise emails that've portrayed me as a keen and
approachable end user who's happy to put his money where his mouth is.
I'm yet to see any other approach work. That's not discrediting the
Pro Tools petition btw, because even that relied on an established
relationship between Digidesign and a couple of key faces as opposed
to thousands of angry blind people blustering on about someone being
held accountable for something.

To finish on a more positive note, it's probably worth pointing out
here that I've never yet seen a plugin developer who's unwilling to
provide a refund if you can't use their plug and they're not willing
or able to improve that situation. If there's a demo, try before you
buy obviously. If not, I usually establish a quick friendly dialogue
before making the purchase to let them know I'm gonna take it for a
spin and agree what'll happen if it doesn't work out. In 12 years of
doing this stuff, I've only ever had to push unreasonably hard for a
refund once. Nice going, Toontrack.

Scott

On 6/18/14, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> Hi, Well it does not hurt to write them about these issues I mean the
> plugin developers about the legal issues regarding accessibility in an
> educational setting as even if you yourself are not in one others are and
> it could also be they just have never met a blind person who uses pro
> tools.  None of my teachers have ever heard of a blind person doing audio
> engineering using pro tools have you looked into starting an on line
> petition about these inaccessible plugins as we could pass the link around
> and even people who don't really use these plugins but who would love to
> can sign and we can see how many signatures we can get and if we get
> enough signatures they should listen?  I for one would not pay for a set
> of plugins only to find out they don't work with pro tools and then the
> company will not refund my money.  Nick Gawronski
> On Tue, June 17, 2014 8:21 pm, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Lol, Nick, I'd love to live in your world man. There is definitely a
>> time to accept that a situation is what it is and move along to try and
>> make a positive impact somewhere else. You can't win 'em all, but you can
>> depress the hell out of yourself trying.
>>
>> Btw, if involvement from a major blindness organisation or bandying
>> phrases like "held accountable" about ever does anything good for anybody
>> in this context, I'll eat my words, and Slau's shoes for good measure.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 6/18/14, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, We can't give up on mailing companies about accessibility of their
>>> plugins as it is like if we stop emailing them about it it is like
>>> saying
>>> your right we don't need to be able to use the plugins the sited can
>>> use.  I would suggest you keep emailing them and perhaps even
>>> researching phone numbers to call.  Depending on where you live you
>>> might look into the blindness groups like in the USA we have the
>>> National Federation of the Blind NFB as lots of schools are also using
>>> these plugins and the company could be held accountable if students
>>> can't
>>> pass courses because of accessibility issues. Nick Gawronski On
>>> 6/17/2014 11:44 AM, Chris Smart wrot

Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
I'm not saying don't write to people, I'm saying take the approach
that's gonna get on the right side of people and use your energy the
most effective way you can. It doesn't hurt to write to developers and
companies to make them aware of your existence and whatever usability
issues you're experiencing. It can, however, hurt a lot to get off on
the wrong foot with whoever reads that initial approach. That's why I
make contact as a humble end user, and leave the legal bombs to be
dropped by the type of people who actually understand the legalities
and know how to speak the language of law. Similarly, it doesn't hurt
to make anyone aware that you're a student, but personally I'd steer
well clear of trying to use education as some sort of game-changer
unless you're employed by a name that carries some weight in that
field. My point is that some of the words you're using can very easily
come over as abrupt and/or threatening. That's something you need to
consider because A) you don't want whoever reads your email to finish
reading with that impression as the takeaway and B) you're not in a
position to pull out the big guns and back up the type of language
you're using. None of us are.

For what it's worth, my advice is to forget the law, forget that
you're writing on behalf of however many thousand blind people, and
concentrate on how you're coming across. Every positive change I've
had a hand in making when it comes to accessibility has been as a
result of concise emails that've portrayed me as a keen and
approachable end user who's happy to put his money where his mouth is.
I'm yet to see any other approach work. That's not discrediting the
Pro Tools petition btw, because even that relied on an established
relationship between Digidesign and a couple of key faces as opposed
to thousands of angry blind people blustering on about someone being
held accountable for something.

To finish on a more positive note, it's probably worth pointing out
here that I've never yet seen a plugin developer who's unwilling to
provide a refund if you can't use their plug and they're not willing
or able to improve that situation. If there's a demo, try before you
buy obviously. If not, I usually establish a quick friendly dialogue
before making the purchase to let them know I'm gonna take it for a
spin and agree what'll happen if it doesn't work out. In 12 years of
doing this stuff, I've only ever had to push unreasonably hard for a
refund once. Nice going, Toontrack.

Scott

On 6/18/14, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> Hi, Well it does not hurt to write them about these issues I mean the
> plugin developers about the legal issues regarding accessibility in an
> educational setting as even if you yourself are not in one others are and
> it could also be they just have never met a blind person who uses pro
> tools.  None of my teachers have ever heard of a blind person doing audio
> engineering using pro tools have you looked into starting an on line
> petition about these inaccessible plugins as we could pass the link around
> and even people who don't really use these plugins but who would love to
> can sign and we can see how many signatures we can get and if we get
> enough signatures they should listen?  I for one would not pay for a set
> of plugins only to find out they don't work with pro tools and then the
> company will not refund my money.  Nick Gawronski
> On Tue, June 17, 2014 8:21 pm, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Lol, Nick, I'd love to live in your world man. There is definitely a
>> time to accept that a situation is what it is and move along to try and
>> make a positive impact somewhere else. You can't win 'em all, but you can
>> depress the hell out of yourself trying.
>>
>> Btw, if involvement from a major blindness organisation or bandying
>> phrases like "held accountable" about ever does anything good for anybody
>> in this context, I'll eat my words, and Slau's shoes for good measure.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 6/18/14, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, We can't give up on mailing companies about accessibility of their
>>> plugins as it is like if we stop emailing them about it it is like
>>> saying
>>> your right we don't need to be able to use the plugins the sited can
>>> use.  I would suggest you keep emailing them and perhaps even
>>> researching phone numbers to call.  Depending on where you live you
>>> might look into the blindness groups like in the USA we have the
>>> National Federation of the Blind NFB as lots of schools are also using
>>> these plugins and the company could be held accountable if students
>>> can't
>>> pass courses because of accessibility issues. Nick Gawronski On
>>> 6/17/2014 11:44 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>
 yeah, it's by far the best/most natural one. I wish we could use it.

 At 11:20 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:

> I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my
> clients are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I
> asked about 

Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Well it does not hurt to write them about these issues I mean the
plugin developers about the legal issues regarding accessibility in an
educational setting as even if you yourself are not in one others are and
it could also be they just have never met a blind person who uses pro
tools.  None of my teachers have ever heard of a blind person doing audio
engineering using pro tools have you looked into starting an on line
petition about these inaccessible plugins as we could pass the link around
and even people who don't really use these plugins but who would love to
can sign and we can see how many signatures we can get and if we get
enough signatures they should listen?  I for one would not pay for a set
of plugins only to find out they don't work with pro tools and then the
company will not refund my money.  Nick Gawronski
On Tue, June 17, 2014 8:21 pm, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Lol, Nick, I'd love to live in your world man. There is definitely a
> time to accept that a situation is what it is and move along to try and
> make a positive impact somewhere else. You can't win 'em all, but you can
> depress the hell out of yourself trying.
>
> Btw, if involvement from a major blindness organisation or bandying
> phrases like "held accountable" about ever does anything good for anybody
> in this context, I'll eat my words, and Slau's shoes for good measure.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On 6/18/14, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
>
>> Hi, We can't give up on mailing companies about accessibility of their
>> plugins as it is like if we stop emailing them about it it is like saying
>> your right we don't need to be able to use the plugins the sited can
>> use.  I would suggest you keep emailing them and perhaps even
>> researching phone numbers to call.  Depending on where you live you
>> might look into the blindness groups like in the USA we have the
>> National Federation of the Blind NFB as lots of schools are also using
>> these plugins and the company could be held accountable if students can't
>> pass courses because of accessibility issues. Nick Gawronski On
>> 6/17/2014 11:44 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, it's by far the best/most natural one. I wish we could use it.
>>>
>>> At 11:20 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>>>
 I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my
 clients are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I
 asked about that particular one.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On
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 Of Chris Smart
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:07 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Meladyne?


 Just curious - what are folks using in PT for
 pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never use the stuff, but
 sometimes I just have to... especially with the public expecting it
 and being more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on the Windows
 side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.

 At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:

> Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.
>
>
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan
> Albertshauser
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Meladyne?
>
>
> Hi,
> First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO and
> secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.
>
> Best Stefan
>
>
> From: Poppa Bear
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Meladyne?
>
>
> Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Scott Chesworth
Lol, Nick, I'd love to live in your world man. There is definitely a
time to accept that a situation is what it is and move along to try
and make a positive impact somewhere else. You can't win 'em all, but
you can depress the hell out of yourself trying.

Btw, if involvement from a major blindness organisation or bandying
phrases like "held accountable" about ever does anything good for
anybody in this context, I'll eat my words, and Slau's shoes for good
measure.

Scott

On 6/18/14, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
> Hi, We can't give up on mailing companies about accessibility of their
> plugins as it is like if we stop emailing them about it it is like
> saying your right we don't need to be able to use the plugins the sited
> can use.  I would suggest you keep emailing them and perhaps even
> researching phone numbers to call.  Depending on where you live you
> might look into the blindness groups like in the USA we have the
> National Federation of the Blind NFB as lots of schools are also using
> these plugins and the company could be held accountable if students
> can't pass courses because of accessibility issues. Nick Gawronski
> On 6/17/2014 11:44 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>> yeah, it's by far the best/most natural one. I wish we could use it.
>>
>> At 11:20 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>>> I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my
>>> clients
>>> are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I asked about
>>> that
>>> particular one.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chris Smart
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:07 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Meladyne?
>>>
>>> Just curious - what are folks using in PT for
>>> pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never
>>> use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to...
>>> especially with the public expecting it and being
>>> more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on
>>> the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.
>>>
>>> At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>>> >Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.
>>> >
>>> >From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> >[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser
>>> >Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
>>> >To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> >Subject: Re: Meladyne?
>>> >
>>> >Hi,
>>> >First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO and
>>> >secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.
>>> >
>>> >Best Stefan
>>> >
>>> >From: Poppa Bear
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
>>> >To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> >Subject: Meladyne?
>>> >
>>> >Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, We can't give up on mailing companies about accessibility of their 
plugins as it is like if we stop emailing them about it it is like 
saying your right we don't need to be able to use the plugins the sited 
can use.  I would suggest you keep emailing them and perhaps even 
researching phone numbers to call.  Depending on where you live you 
might look into the blindness groups like in the USA we have the 
National Federation of the Blind NFB as lots of schools are also using 
these plugins and the company could be held accountable if students 
can't pass courses because of accessibility issues. Nick Gawronski

On 6/17/2014 11:44 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

yeah, it's by far the best/most natural one. I wish we could use it.

At 11:20 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my 
clients
are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I asked about 
that

particular one.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:07 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Meladyne?

Just curious - what are folks using in PT for
pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never
use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to...
especially with the public expecting it and being
more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on
the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.

At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.
>
>From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser
>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
>To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Meladyne?
>
>Hi,
>First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO and
>secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.
>
>Best Stefan
>
>From: Poppa Bear
>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
>To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Meladyne?
>
>Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Gordon Kent

   Hi:
Autotune 7 is amazingly accessible with pro tools, though I haven't tried it 
as an AAX plug.  IT's been a while since I've tried it because of 
authorization issues and Antares is not being very friendly about it.

Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Smart

Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:07 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Meladyne?

Just curious - what are folks using in PT for
pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never
use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to...
especially with the public expecting it and being
more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on
the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.

At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:

Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Meladyne?

Hi,
First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO  and secondly, 
It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.


Best Stefan

From: Poppa Bear
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Meladyne?

Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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Re: Guitar amp Modellers

2014-06-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi André,

I'm using the 
Waves GTR Amp,
The rub is you need a controller to access the parameters.
Its the best I've heard so far though! :)
YMMV
Chuck

On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:16 PM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have played with ReCabinet and Guitar Rig Pro in PT11. They are not very 
> accessible, but both are possible to use by doing some Mouse Keys navigation 
> and get access to the preset settings. but that's pretty much all you can do. 
> If someone is interested, I can post the details.
> 
> Best,
> John André
> 
> On 17 Jun 2014, at 18:54, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
>> I'm a fan of Studio Devil's products. What are other people using for guitar 
>> amp modelling plug-ins?
>> 
>> I still prefer hardware, i.e. an actual amp with a mic in front of it, but 
>> that isn't always practical or possible. 
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midi question

2014-06-17 Thread Brian Howerton
Hello all,

 

I have a small protools setup, running PT on my macbook pro just to learn it
and begin to use for myself.  I have a PSR-e433 small midi keyboard that I
am using as a controller via usb.  I don't see any drivers for it on the
Yamaha site for the mac, and it is not showing up in PT.  Is there something
I am missing.  I'm pretty new to PT, just have started playing with it
again, after not having it on my mac for a while.  I put it back just
recently.  Thanks for the help.

 

Brian

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Re: Guitar amp Modellers

2014-06-17 Thread John André Lium-Netland
Hi,

I have played with ReCabinet and Guitar Rig Pro in PT11. They are not very 
accessible, but both are possible to use by doing some Mouse Keys navigation 
and get access to the preset settings. but that's pretty much all you can do. 
If someone is interested, I can post the details.

Best,
John André

On 17 Jun 2014, at 18:54, Chris Smart  wrote:

> I'm a fan of Studio Devil's products. What are other people using for guitar 
> amp modelling plug-ins?
> 
> I still prefer hardware, i.e. an actual amp with a mic in front of it, but 
> that isn't always practical or possible. 
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Guitar amp Modellers

2014-06-17 Thread Chris Smart
I'm a fan of Studio Devil's products. What are other people using for 
guitar amp modelling plug-ins?


I still prefer hardware, i.e. an actual amp with a mic in front of 
it, but that isn't always practical or possible. 


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RE: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Chris Smart

yeah, it's by far the best/most natural one. I wish we could use it.

At 11:20 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:

I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my clients
are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I asked about that
particular one.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Meladyne?

Just curious - what are folks using in PT for
pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never
use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to...
especially with the public expecting it and being
more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on
the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.

At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.
>
>From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser
>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
>To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Meladyne?
>
>Hi,
>First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO  and
>secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.
>
>Best Stefan
>
>From: Poppa Bear
>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
>To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Meladyne?
>
>Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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Re: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Poppa,
> waves tune is not accessible yet.
If everybody keeps emailing waves may be we can get that last button that needs 
to bee seen!
I have it from the waves teem Higher ups, "Can't name names here"...  that  
waves CEO "Gilad Keren" reads the email from comme...@waves.com
So start emailing please. :)
Its a shame I've heard the waves do the same section of a vocal then AT and its 
night & day in quality!
As for "Melodyne" I've been back and forth with them for several years and just 
gave up on them!
YMMV
Chuck



On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

> I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my clients
> are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I asked about that
> particular one.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chris Smart
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:07 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Meladyne?
> 
> Just curious - what are folks using in PT for 
> pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never 
> use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to... 
> especially with the public expecting it and being 
> more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on 
> the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.
> 
> At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>> Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.
>> 
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser
>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Meladyne?
>> 
>> Hi,
>> First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO  and 
>> secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.
>> 
>> Best Stefan
>> 
>> From: Poppa Bear
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Meladyne?
>> 
>> Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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RE: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Poppa Bear
I think that many use either waves tune, or Auto Tune. Some of my clients
are becoming more familiar with Melodyne so that is why I asked about that
particular one.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:07 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Meladyne?

Just curious - what are folks using in PT for 
pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never 
use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to... 
especially with the public expecting it and being 
more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on 
the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.

At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:
>Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.
>
>From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser
>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
>To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Meladyne?
>
>Hi,
>First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO  and 
>secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.
>
>Best Stefan
>
>From: Poppa Bear
>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
>To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Meladyne?
>
>Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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RE: Meladyne?

2014-06-17 Thread Chris Smart
Just curious - what are folks using in PT for 
pitch correction? Believe me, I'd prefer to never 
use the stuff, but sometimes I just have to... 
especially with the public expecting it and being 
more pitch conscious because of it. Anyway, on 
the Windows side, Autotune is still our one accessible option.


At 02:30 AM 6/17/2014, you wrote:

Sorry about the miss spell, thanks for the quick answer.

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Albertshauser

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Meladyne?

Hi,
First of all, itâ EURO (tm)s called â EURO oemelodyneâ EURO  and 
secondly, It isnâ EURO (tm)t accessible.


Best Stefan

From: Poppa Bear
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:32 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Meladyne?

Hey gang, is meladyne accessible back in PT 8? Thanks
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