RE: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

On 21 Nov 2002, at 9:30, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> 
> PS. French keyboards - AZERTY and all that - yeuch !

Mine works just fine...
I just have nimble fingers (and a nimble mind?)

Ha!

Wolfgang

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> 
> Well, at least the characters are all at the same position. Ever tried
> typing on a French or similar keyboard? I needed ages to only type the
> command to switch the keyboard layout ;)
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> > I took French at school - and I'm even worse at that !
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> I know that feeling ;)
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RE: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Norman Dunbar

Hi Wolfgang,

I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !)

Ok, if you are so clever then, get over here and use a QWERTY - that'll sort
you out :o)

Cheers,
Norman.

PS. A friend of mine worked in Paris for years as an Au pair and secretary.
When she came back and started working for an Oil company in Aberdeen, she
couldn't type any more - they bought her an AZERTY and she went back to
'normal' typing speeds. I think she has got used to QWERTY now though !

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-Original Message-
From: Wolfgang Lenerz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [ql-users] keyboards



On 21 Nov 2002, at 9:30, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> 
> PS. French keyboards - AZERTY and all that - yeuch !

Mine works just fine...
I just have nimble fingers (and a nimble mind?)

Ha!

Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera

> I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !)

That's because he IS German, though he lives near Paris.

Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German
keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards.

Joachim




RE: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Norman Dunbar

I think you are correct Joachim, if my memory serves me well, which it
normally does not, the '/' is on an ALT GR shift as well - probably the 7
key I think. This makes doing anything in unix a pain as you need three
fingers to get at a single '/'.

I remember Paris, I went there once.
It was cold and the streets were paved with something not unlike dog poo !

But we won't go down that route :o)

Cheers,
Norman.

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-Original Message-
From: Joachim Van der Auwera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:40 PM
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> I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !)

That's because he IS German, though he lives near Paris.

Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German
keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards.

Joachim
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RE: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

On 21 Nov 2002, at 13:35, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> 
> Hi Wolfgang,
> 
> I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !)

What, "Wolfgang" is a germanic sounding name? Whatever gave 
you that idea?
I'm living near Paris, though, hence the Azerty...

> Ok, if you are so clever then, get over here and use a QWERTY -
> that'll sort you out :o)

That's what my first QL had, I bought it in '84 in London. 

:-)

Wolfgang



Re: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Marcel Kilgus

Norman Dunbar wrote:
> > Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German
> > keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards.

That's right of course. Still, 24 out of 26 is not that bad ;)

> I think you are correct Joachim, if my memory serves me well, which it
> normally does not, the '/' is on an ALT GR shift as well

Only Shift + 7. "\" is on AltGR + "ß". There is no key that uses
"AltGR Shift".

Marcel




Re: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Thu, 21 Nov 2002 at 14:48:55, Norman Dunbar wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>I remember Paris, I went there once.
>It was cold and the streets were paved with something not unlike dog poo !
and the cycle routes are paved in glass (8-)#
I got two punctures once on the way back to Gare du Nord after a QL
show.  Had to reinforce the outer tyre with sellotape, but still got to
the station in time!

Similar to the time I repaired Stuart H's outer with bits of his
rucksack when his bicycle tyre exploded like a gunshot en route from
Reggio Emilia to Parma after an Italian show.  It was a quiet village,
and all the dogs started barking and people came out of their houses.
Just as well we were not in Sicily (8-)#


I love Paris though - even with the mess.

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Re: [ql-users] keyboards

2002-11-21 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <005301c2916b$f3b4b630$6a00a8c0@pc06>, Joachim Van der Auwera
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>> I always thought you were German - oops ! (Must be the name !)
>
>That's because he IS German, though he lives near Paris.
>
>Mind you, I would not say all letters are in the same place on German
>keyboards, I am quite sure they have QWERTZ keyboards.

I use a Nokia Data PS2 keyboard on this PC for email ... it has a QWERTY
key layout, but the language is Spainish ( ? ) ... can anyone confirm ?

The TAB key is 'Bloq Mayus', SCROLL lock is 'Bloq Despl'.

It was only 1ukp at a Radio Rally some years back, it is an excellent
'sculptured' layout and feel to it.  The actual 'legends' printed do not
matter ...

-- 
Malcolm Cadman