[ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Malcolm Cadman]

Hi,
I am sure that everyone has noticed the success of the Greek football 
team in the European competition ... :-)

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Bill Waugh]

- Original Message -
From: "Malcolm Cadman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:28 PM
Subject: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?


> Hi,
>
> I am sure that everyone has noticed the success of the Greek football
> team in the European competition ... :-)
>

Yes well done but I had a little wry smile to myself next morning when our
marvellous media broadcast pictures of "Greeks celebrating" by dancing in
the street and smashing plastic cafe seats to bits " a new Greek custom
plastic chairs replacing plates ha ha ha", no reports of how many arrested
as would have been the case if it had been England , in which case the
report would have started "mindless drunken English football fans run riot"

I've absolutely nothing against Greece and best of luck to both teams in the
final, but don't get me started about the media ( well you already have)

Any chance BTW that we could clone that Ref ( Callina ) removing any Swiss
genes on route (;-)

All the best - bill

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Wolfgang Uhlig]

Any chance BTW that we could clone that Ref ( Callina ) removing any  
Swiss genes on route (;-)
It's Collina and he's Italian ;)
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:35:26 +0100, Bill Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Malcolm Cadman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:28 PM
Subject: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

Hi,
I am sure that everyone has noticed the success of the Greek football
team in the European competition ... :-)
Yes well done but I had a little wry smile to myself next morning when  
our
marvellous media broadcast pictures of "Greeks celebrating" by dancing in
the street and smashing plastic cafe seats to bits " a new Greek custom
plastic chairs replacing plates ha ha ha", no reports of how many  
arrested
None arrested of course ;-)  (Or so I understand).. It would be impossible  
though as probably cops were breaking things as well, so they probably  
couldn't arrest themselves :-P


as would have been the case if it had been England , in which case the
report would have started "mindless drunken English football fans run  
riot"

There is a noticeable difference. We (Greeks) behave as a matter of course  
like that... unlike Brits whih are generally civilised all the time ;-)

So yes it should be "Mindless Drunken English Football fans". See in  
comparison, Greeks do not need to be drunk to break things :-) We just  
break them for fun and secondly mindless would be to state the obvious  
wouldn't it :-)

Plus we do break things in an organised manner unlike Brits ;-)
Heeeheee

I've absolutely nothing against Greece and best of luck to both teams in  
the
final, but don't get me started about the media ( well you already have)

Any chance BTW that we could clone that Ref ( Callina ) removing any  
Swiss
genes on route (;-)
That was a little bit bitter here wasn't it? :-D
Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Bill Waugh]

- Original Message -
From: "Wolfgang Uhlig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?


> > Any chance BTW that we could clone that Ref ( Callina ) removing any
> > Swiss genes on route (;-)
>
> It's Collina and he's Italian ;)
>
> Wolfgang

yes I thought my spelling was wrong, he is a brilliant ref though and will
be a big miss ( retires soon)

You miss my point about the Swiss Genes Wolfgang, I was reffering to a
completely different ref

All the best - Bill

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Bill Waugh]

- Original Message -
From: "Phoebus R. Dokos (Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?


> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:35:26 +0100, Bill Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Malcolm Cadman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:28 PM
> > Subject: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am sure that everyone has noticed the success of the Greek football
> >> team in the European competition ... :-)
> >>
> >
> > Yes well done but I had a little wry smile to myself next morning when
> > our
> > marvellous media broadcast pictures of "Greeks celebrating" by dancing
in
> > the street and smashing plastic cafe seats to bits " a new Greek custom
> > plastic chairs replacing plates ha ha ha", no reports of how many
> > arrested
>
> None arrested of course ;-)  (Or so I understand).. It would be impossible
> though as probably cops were breaking things as well, so they probably
> couldn't arrest themselves :-P
>
>
> > as would have been the case if it had been England , in which case the
> > report would have started "mindless drunken English football fans run
> > riot"
>
>
> There is a noticeable difference. We (Greeks) behave as a matter of course
> like that... unlike Brits whih are generally civilised all the time ;-)
>
> So yes it should be "Mindless Drunken English Football fans". See in
> comparison, Greeks do not need to be drunk to break things :-) We just
> break them for fun and secondly mindless would be to state the obvious
> wouldn't it :-)
>
> Plus we do break things in an organised manner unlike Brits ;-)
>
> Heeeheee

Nice reply Phoebus, in tune with my sense of humour


> >
> > I've absolutely nothing against Greece and best of luck to both teams in
> > the
> > final, but don't get me started about the media ( well you already have)
> >
> > Any chance BTW that we could clone that Ref ( Callina ) removing any
> > Swiss
> > genes on route (;-)
>
> That was a little bit bitter here wasn't it? :-D

Ah well I'm sweet most of the time
actually I'm half Scot half English, my wife has Dutch relations so goodness
knows where my loyalties should lie

All the best - Bill

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Malcolm Cadman]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

Enjoy the moment, Phoebus, and all Greeks ... you can be proud of a 
remarkable sporting achievement.

And the Olympics to come too ...
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:35:26 +0100, Bill Waugh 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Malcolm Cadman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:28 PM
Subject: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

Hi,
I am sure that everyone has noticed the success of the Greek football
team in the European competition ... :-)
Yes well done but I had a little wry smile to myself next morning 
when our
marvellous media broadcast pictures of "Greeks celebrating" by dancing in
the street and smashing plastic cafe seats to bits " a new Greek custom
plastic chairs replacing plates ha ha ha", no reports of how many 
arrested
None arrested of course ;-)  (Or so I understand).. It would be 
impossible though as probably cops were breaking things as well, so 
they probably couldn't arrest themselves :-P


as would have been the case if it had been England , in which case the
report would have started "mindless drunken English football fans run 
riot"

There is a noticeable difference. We (Greeks) behave as a matter of 
course  like that... unlike Brits whih are generally civilised all the 
time ;-)

So yes it should be "Mindless Drunken English Football fans". See in 
comparison, Greeks do not need to be drunk to break things :-) We just 
break them for fun and secondly mindless would be to state the obvious 
wouldn't it :-)

Plus we do break things in an organised manner unlike Brits ;-)
Heeeheee

I've absolutely nothing against Greece and best of luck to both teams 
in the
final, but don't get me started about the media ( well you already have)

Any chance BTW that we could clone that Ref ( Callina ) removing any 
Swiss
genes on route (;-)
That was a little bit bitter here wasn't it? :-D
Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Wolfgang Uhlig]

You miss my point about the Swiss Genes Wolfgang, I was reffering to a
completely different ref
I know which one you mean ;) but I wondered how you could remove genes
that are'nt there in the first place.
All the best - Bill
All the best, too, Wolfgang
PS: In the end we Germans must be happy that at least one of us
has reached the final :-))
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Dilwyn Jones]

> There is a noticeable difference. We (Greeks) behave as a matter of course
> like that... unlike Brits whih are generally civilised all the time ;-)
Hmm, you obviously haven't lived near me recently :-(

> Plus we do break things in an organised manner unlike Brits ;-)
I remember being on holiday in The Netherlands, visiting a clog shoe
production factory. Showing us a pair of clogs with pointed toes, the lady
guiding us round remarked that "these are for Dutch police to handle your
soccer hooligans." That was many years ago, possibly 15 years ago, so it's
not exactly something new!

> > I've absolutely nothing against Greece and best of luck to both teams in
> > the
> > final, but don't get me started about the media ( well you already have)
Well, we have Greeks on this QL list and no Portuguese as far as I know, so
I guess we should support Greece perhaps? (there, sort of back on topic)

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong  
;-)

CHeers :-)
Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Tony Firshman]

On  Sun, 4 Jul 2004 at 16:56:35, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
>Yahooo :-)
>
>Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven
>wrong  ;-)
>
>CHeers :-)
Did you have money on them then (at 250:1)?
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:39:46 +0100, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

On  Sun, 4 Jul 2004 at 16:56:35, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven
wrong  ;-)
CHeers :-)
Did you have money on them then (at 250:1)?
It is illegal to gamble here :-) (At least it is until July 1st afaik)  
Plus to gamble overseas violates about a dozen laws not that I would  
bet on them in the first place even if I could though ;-) (I was more  
likely leaning towards Britain or the Czechs)

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 17:46:49 -0400, I wrote:
(I was more likely leaning towards Britain or the Czechs)

Goes to show what happens when you calculate odds without a QL ;-) (Back  
On Topic ;-)


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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Malcolm Cadman]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven 
wrong  ;-)

CHeers :-)
Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece !
As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( twice ), 
and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they really 
earned it :-)

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Robert Newson]

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven 
wrong  ;-)

CHeers :-)
Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece !
As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( twice ), 
and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they really 
earned it :-)
You know why they beat them?  The French, Portugese & Czechs took one look 
at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it was all 
Greek to them...

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:12:57 +0100, Robert Newson  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven  
wrong  ;-)

CHeers :-)
 Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece !
 As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( twice  
), and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they really  
earned it :-)
You know why they beat them?  The French, Portugese & Czechs took one  
look at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it  
was all Greek to them...


*bzz*  Wrong :-) They were actually playing German football ;-) (Which  
I take it should be equally foreign ;-) to them :-P

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[wolfgang mühlegger]

*bzz*  Wrong :-) They were actually playing German football ;-) 
yeahh, better than the german did ;-
(Which  I take it should be equally foreign ;-) to them :-P
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

On 6 Jul 2004 at 23:23, wolfgang mühlegger wrote:

>
> >
> > *bzz*  Wrong :-) They were actually playing German football ;-)
>
> yeahh, better than the german did ;-
>
Actually, that is not true. Unfortunately, however, the Germans (as usual
thinking that everything good comes from Ameica) thought they were playing
American football.
Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Malcolm Cadman]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Newson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven 
wrong  ;-)

CHeers :-)
 Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece !
 As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( 
twice ), and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they 
really earned it :-)
You know why they beat them?  The French, Portugese & Czechs took one 
look at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it 
was all Greek to them...
Umm ... that could be why the Greeks like the QL too :-)
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Malcolm Cadman]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:12:57 +0100, Robert Newson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus R. Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all 
proven   wrong  ;-)

CHeers :-)
 Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece !
 As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( 
twice
), and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they 
)really
earned it :-)
You know why they beat them?  The French, Portugese & Czechs took one 
look at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it 
was all Greek to them...


*bzz*  Wrong :-) They were actually playing German football ;-) 
(Which  I take it should be equally foreign ;-) to them :-P
Now ... now ... the coach has done you proud.
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Lafe McCorkle]

Etch!  As far as I am concerned, football is only played in the USA, 
Canada and to a lesser extent Down Under.  All the rest of you guys play 
soccer!  The most colorful officials that I have seen on TV was the 
Assize's version football.
Lafe McCorkle


Phoebus R. Dokos (Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος) wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

Yahooo :-)
Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven 
wrong  ;-)

CHeers :-)
Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Marcel Kilgus]

Lafe McCorkle wrote:
> Etch!  As far as I am concerned, football is only played in the USA,
> Canada and to a lesser extent Down Under.

Uh well, that actually reminds me of a cartoon from the American Dave
Kellett:

http://www.kilgus.net/images/sheldon-football.gif

Sorry, couldn't resist :-)

Marcel



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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Lafe McCorkle]

Marcel Kilgus wrote:
Lafe McCorkle wrote:
 

Etch!  As far as I am concerned, football is only played in the USA,
Canada and to a lesser extent Down Under.
   

Uh well, that actually reminds me of a cartoon from the American Dave
Kellett:
http://www.kilgus.net/images/sheldon-football.gif
Sorry, couldn't resist :-)
Marcel
Well done, Marcel, and well taken!  Socker does indeed involve more footwork, but in 
America football has been football for well over a hundred years! (as is true of your 
football in Europe as well I assume!)
Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball.  Surely the name football was 
applied to our game because field goals and extra points are kicked,and that major 
movement is by running on feet, as opposed to on hourse as in polo.  Yes, I still 
claim the name football for our sport, at least in our country, where socker is a 
jonny come lately game.

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Dilwyn Jones]

> >Well done, Marcel, and well taken!  Socker does indeed involve more
footwork, but in America football has been football for well over a hundred
years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!)
> >Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball.  Surely the name
football was applied to our game because field goals and extra points are
kicked,and that major movement is by running on feet, as opposed to on
hourse as in polo.  Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at
least in our country, where socker is a jonny come lately game.
Just to complicate matters, we have Rugby Football here in Britain as well.
Stick to SOCCER for international discussion, everyone knows what we mean
then!

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:31:31 +0100, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

>Well done, Marcel, and well taken!  Socker does indeed involve more
footwork, but in America football has been football for well over a  
hundred
years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!)
>Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball.  Surely the  
name
football was applied to our game because field goals and extra points are
kicked,and that major movement is by running on feet, as opposed to on
hourse as in polo.  Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport,  
at
least in our country, where socker is a jonny come lately game.
Just to complicate matters, we have Rugby Football here in Britain as  
well.
Stick to SOCCER for international discussion, everyone knows what we mean
then!

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From wordorigins.org:
Soccer is an abbreviation for Association Football. The Football  
Association was formed in London in October 1863 when representatives of  
eleven clubs and schools met in an attempt to standardize the rules of the  
game. One of the rules prohibited the carrying of the ball, a rule that  
would lead to the Rugby-oriented clubs leaving the Association several  
months later. The name Association Football was coined to distinguish it  
from Rugby.

By 1889, the abbreviation socca' was in use, and the spelling soccer had  
made its appearance by 1895.

Now Lafe might want to consider that (American) Football is called such by  
a mere 300 million people while the rest of the world's billions by  
Football mean Soccer football :-)

To put it mildly, for the Euro 2004 final match, Indonesians stayed up and  
many missed or were late for their polls don't see anybody doing that  
for the Superbowl ;-)

My (Euro2004 champion-holders - yes the German is crazy!*) 2 cents :-)
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[P Witte]

Lafe McCorkle writes:

> .. but in America football has been football for well over a hundred
> years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!)
<>
> Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at least in our
> country, where socker is a jonny come lately game.

Football has been football in England since the 12th century or so (although
the Chinese and others have played a similar game as far back as 200 BC).
Rugby, a deviation from the game as it was played in the early 19th century,
came about when some chaps at a school of that name broke the rules and
carried the ball. This variant is the father of American "football".

Football, as she is played worldwide (with a few, minor exceptions) was a
major British hit while, sadly, the QL, another great British invention,
didnt
quite make it.

Per

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Phoebus R. Dokos]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 02:16:39 +0100, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Lafe McCorkle writes:
.. but in America football has been football for well over a hundred
years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!)
<>
Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at least in our
country, where socker is a jonny come lately game.
Football has been football in England since the 12th century or so  
(although
the Chinese and others have played a similar game as far back as 200 BC).
Rugby, a deviation from the game as it was played in the early 19th  
century,
came about when some chaps at a school of that name broke the rules and
carried the ball. This variant is the father of American "football".

Football, as she is played worldwide (with a few, minor exceptions) was a
major British hit while, sadly, the QL, another great British invention,
didnt
quite make it.
That's probably because Sir Clive wasn't Sir Clive Von Sinclair (or of  
other "Germanic" origin in any case ;-) )

Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Dilwyn Jones]

> That's probably because Sir Clive wasn't Sir Clive Von Sinclair (or of
> other "Germanic" origin in any case ;-) )
>
> Phoebus
Seen Sir Clive's latest bike? Was in the newspapers here yesterday. Fold up
into a tiny bundle, microscopic wheels, looks as "different" as many of his
other inventions. And he hopes to develop an electrically assisted version
later.

What got me though was the way the press portrayed it as his latest
"C5-style doomed-to-failure invention" (bigger picture of a C5 than of the
new product!). At least the guy's doing his best to release eco-friendly
products he thinks people will buy (I look forward to seeing Stuart H. and
Tony F. turning up at QL shows on oneof these foldup bikes), only to be shot
down by a national press who are obsessed with deriding
(ride...bike...geddit???) anything and everything British as useless, naff
and doomed to failure (never let the facts get in the way of a good story).

I think I'll start doing that with QL Today, slag off everyone and
everything to do with the QL and see how far I get!

You have to hand it to Sir Clive, though, he's taken knock after knock and
bounced back every time.

Dilwyn Jones

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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

On 10 Jul 2004 at 2:16, P Witte wrote:
(...)
> Football, as she is played worldwide (with a few, minor exceptions) was a
> major British hit while, sadly, the QL, another great British invention,
> didnt
> quite make it.

A desperate attempt to get back on topic...:-)
Wolfgang

www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com

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[Roy wood]

>Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball.
In the UK these are called rounders and netball and are played by girls 
only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only 
played by Americans ?

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[Timothy Swenson]

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:31:15 +0100, Roy wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only 
played by Americans ?
The Major League Baseball (MLB) has a World Series because teams from the 
US and Canada are in the League.  Canada has the Toronto Blue Jays and the 
Montreal Astros.  The World Series started in 1903, long before Japan or 
other nations has professional baseball.

Tim Swenson
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[Lafe McCorkle]

Timothy Swenson wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:31:15 +0100, Roy wood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only 
played by Americans ?

The Major League Baseball (MLB) has a World Series because teams from 
the US and Canada are in the League.  Canada has the Toronto Blue Jays 
and the Montreal Astros.  The World Series started in 1903, long 
before Japan or other nations has professional baseball.

Tim Swenson
Baseball,  as played in the USA, was invented or  organised by Abner 
Doubleday sometime in the  mid to late  nineteenth  century.  For many  
years  it was played by men only.  Women and girls were  were  relegated 
to softball, which is played with a larger less dense ball.  In early 
years the  runner could be tagged by being hit by a thrown ball.

Basketball was invented by Dr. James Neismith.   Odly,  in the list of 
University of Kansas basketball  Coaches, Naismith was the only coach to 
post a lifetime losing record.  In the early years of basktball, women 
played a modified version in which players were divided offence and 
defence,  each restricted their own half court.Only men played full court.

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[Roy wood]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lafe McCorkle 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Baseball,  as played in the USA, was invented or  organised by Abner 
Doubleday sometime in the  mid to late  nineteenth  century.  For many 
years  it was played by men only.  Women and girls were  were relegated 
to softball, which is played with a larger less dense ball.  In early 
years the  runner could be tagged by being hit by a thrown ball.

I refer you to :
http://www.nra-rounders.co.uk/history.html
Basketball was invented by Dr. James Neismith.   Odly,  in the list of 
University of Kansas basketball  Coaches, Naismith was the only coach 
to post a lifetime losing record.  In the early years of basktball, 
women played a modified version in which players were divided offence 
and defence,  each restricted their own half court.Only men played full 
court.
You have got me there because, as far as I can see we copied our netball 
from the US. Interesting that it was deemed to be  girls sport in the UK 
though but then our rugby player don't wear helmets, padded shirts etc.

Tee hee.
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[Roy wood]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Timothy Swenson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:31:15 +0100, Roy wood 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only 
played by Americans ?
The Major League Baseball (MLB) has a World Series because teams from 
the US and Canada are in the League.  Canada has the Toronto Blue Jays 
and the Montreal Astros.  The World Series started in 1903, long before 
Japan or other nations has professional baseball.
So the US and Canada constitute the world do they. Interesting 
geography.
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Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501
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Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?

[Timothy Swenson]

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:58:43 +0100, Roy wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
So the US and Canada constitute the world do they. Interesting geography.
Why, of course.  Well, at least the important part of the World. :-)
Tim
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[Marcel Kilgus]

Timothy Swenson wrote:
> Why, of course.  Well, at least the important part of the World. :-)

Which, of course, reminds me of this here :-)

http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~adlr/america.gif

Marcel

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