Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Jim Bronson]

It looks like a really nice day.  The last time I wore a tire down to the
casing, I got a flat and I was on a 200K far from anywhere with weather in
the mid-30s and drizzle.  I had a spare LoupLoup Pass tire in my bag, but
still, having to take off my lobster gloves to change it in the cold
drizzle was pretty miserable.

The moral of this story is to check your tires frequently.  It's not always
going to be a nice day when it fails.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 6:00 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check
> things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong, honest! I bought my
> bike in late 2012 from RBW headquarters, and I don't get to ride as much as
> a lot of you folks, so I thought I was doing alright with the tire tread. I
> have a fendered bike, and I now know that YOU MUST NOT EVALUATE YOUR BACK
> TIRE  SOLELY BY LOOKING AT YOUR FRONT TIRE.
>
> I was sitting cross-legged, waiting for the boys to be dismissed from
> school. Imagine my shock. The first photo shows the deceptive angle in
> which I thought all was well. The second reveals the painful truth. It
> would be a looonnn trek pushing that bike uphill loaded with school
> stuff. To the bike shop I go, in the morning!
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Ryan Fleming]

I promise I will...we're still in weird Feb semi-winter with 
freezing/melting salt, slush, etc. Can hardly wait for spring. I know I 
love looking at the bike. And I'm sure I'll love riding the bike

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 11:18:03 AM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Ryan! Have we gotten to see photos of your bike all built up? How dreamy - 
> don't deny us this pleasure for long. Do let's hear all about it when you 
> get riding. You said it's glorious and splendid - would love to hear more 
> about what makes it so. Meanwhile, I'm going to let this idea of a second 
> mixte percolate in my mind.
>
> Also, I wonder who got version 1.0? Lucky duck.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 21, 2017, at 8:20 AM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
> Ummm..that was version 1.0 of my custom. Head tube was a  tad shorter 
> basis what I wanted. I wanted to allow for level bars and saddle for now 
> with the option of raising the bars if I needed to later. I do feel bad 
> that they had to discount this bike but I sure respect their attention to 
> detailit's a beauty...but some lucky customer got a deal and hopefully 
> specced most of the parts from Rivendell. Version 2.0 is in my living room 
> minus pedals...and is absolutely splendid and glorious and for mixte 
> lovers, I'd say, if you're going to really float the  boat out there a 
> Rivendell mixte custom  is the way to go.  You have to be patient , but the 
> end result is so worth it.
>
> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 11:32:12 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, remember how we were talking about a dream custom Clementine 
>> (don't make me call it a Clem!) with more lugs? Did you see the photos of 
>> the blue custom mixte on Grant's Blahg today? It looks like someone almost 
>> made one! There's swoopy stays in back, and even though there's no 
>> swooptie-tube, that sloping tube looks lower than the standover my Bets 
>> has! 
>>
>> I called the two shops that have our bikes. The Hotrock isn't yet done as 
>> they're missing a tool needed to put rivets in the bottle cage holes, and 
>> my wheel didn't come in! If I can get the Hotrock tomorrow I'll take the 
>> Husband Clem for our Wednesday ride to school. It's tricky, but with my 
>> Back-a-Bike bags on his rear rack, I can probably make it work. I mean, 
>> it's not likely I'll crash my way down the hill, right? I can totally 
>> handle that dangerous top tube, would you say? I don't *think* I'll get 
>> killed. Say a prayer. 
>>
>> Anyway, the weather was nasty over the weekend, but when the sun emerged 
>> every person who owns a bike was riding. I nearly veered into a curb 
>> admiring a rider and his setup on my way to Home Depot. My birthday's days 
>> away and my husband asked for a hint (presents are my love language!) and I 
>> said "Rivendollars." He asked me to explain and I just said someday I want 
>> a really, really nice Rivendell. And this will be like money towards that 
>> bike someday. He thinks he's getting off easy 
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Leah Peterson]

Ryan! Have we gotten to see photos of your bike all built up? How dreamy - 
don't deny us this pleasure for long. Do let's hear all about it when you get 
riding. You said it's glorious and splendid - would love to hear more about 
what makes it so. Meanwhile, I'm going to let this idea of a second mixte 
percolate in my mind.

Also, I wonder who got version 1.0? Lucky duck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 8:20 AM, Ryan Fleming  
> wrote:
> 
> Ummm..that was version 1.0 of my custom. Head tube was a  tad shorter basis 
> what I wanted. I wanted to allow for level bars and saddle for now with the 
> option of raising the bars if I needed to later. I do feel bad that they had 
> to discount this bike but I sure respect their attention to detailit's a 
> beauty...but some lucky customer got a deal and hopefully specced most of the 
> parts from Rivendell. Version 2.0 is in my living room minus pedals...and is 
> absolutely splendid and glorious and for mixte lovers, I'd say, if you're 
> going to really float the  boat out there a Rivendell mixte custom  is the 
> way to go.  You have to be patient , but the end result is so worth it.
> 
>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 11:32:12 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>> Hey guys, remember how we were talking about a dream custom Clementine 
>> (don't make me call it a Clem!) with more lugs? Did you see the photos of 
>> the blue custom mixte on Grant's Blahg today? It looks like someone almost 
>> made one! There's swoopy stays in back, and even though there's no 
>> swooptie-tube, that sloping tube looks lower than the standover my Bets has! 
>> 
>> I called the two shops that have our bikes. The Hotrock isn't yet done as 
>> they're missing a tool needed to put rivets in the bottle cage holes, and my 
>> wheel didn't come in! If I can get the Hotrock tomorrow I'll take the 
>> Husband Clem for our Wednesday ride to school. It's tricky, but with my 
>> Back-a-Bike bags on his rear rack, I can probably make it work. I mean, it's 
>> not likely I'll crash my way down the hill, right? I can totally handle that 
>> dangerous top tube, would you say? I don't *think* I'll get killed. Say a 
>> prayer. 
>> 
>> Anyway, the weather was nasty over the weekend, but when the sun emerged 
>> every person who owns a bike was riding. I nearly veered into a curb 
>> admiring a rider and his setup on my way to Home Depot. My birthday's days 
>> away and my husband asked for a hint (presents are my love language!) and I 
>> said "Rivendollars." He asked me to explain and I just said someday I want a 
>> really, really nice Rivendell. And this will be like money towards that bike 
>> someday. He thinks he's getting off easy 
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Ryan Fleming]

Ummm..that was version 1.0 of my custom. Head tube was a  tad shorter basis 
what I wanted. I wanted to allow for level bars and saddle for now with the 
option of raising the bars if I needed to later. I do feel bad that they 
had to discount this bike but I sure respect their attention to 
detailit's a beauty...but some lucky customer got a deal and hopefully 
specced most of the parts from Rivendell. Version 2.0 is in my living room 
minus pedals...and is absolutely splendid and glorious and for mixte 
lovers, I'd say, if you're going to really float the  boat out there a 
Rivendell mixte custom  is the way to go.  You have to be patient , but the 
end result is so worth it.

On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 11:32:12 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Hey guys, remember how we were talking about a dream custom Clementine 
> (don't make me call it a Clem!) with more lugs? Did you see the photos of 
> the blue custom mixte on Grant's Blahg today? It looks like someone almost 
> made one! There's swoopy stays in back, and even though there's no 
> swooptie-tube, that sloping tube looks lower than the standover my Bets 
> has! 
>
> I called the two shops that have our bikes. The Hotrock isn't yet done as 
> they're missing a tool needed to put rivets in the bottle cage holes, and 
> my wheel didn't come in! If I can get the Hotrock tomorrow I'll take the 
> Husband Clem for our Wednesday ride to school. It's tricky, but with my 
> Back-a-Bike bags on his rear rack, I can probably make it work. I mean, 
> it's not likely I'll crash my way down the hill, right? I can totally 
> handle that dangerous top tube, would you say? I don't *think* I'll get 
> killed. Say a prayer. 
>
> Anyway, the weather was nasty over the weekend, but when the sun emerged 
> every person who owns a bike was riding. I nearly veered into a curb 
> admiring a rider and his setup on my way to Home Depot. My birthday's days 
> away and my husband asked for a hint (presents are my love language!) and I 
> said "Rivendollars." He asked me to explain and I just said someday I want 
> a really, really nice Rivendell. And this will be like money towards that 
> bike someday. He thinks he's getting off easy 

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

Hey guys, remember how we were talking about a dream custom Clementine (don't 
make me call it a Clem!) with more lugs? Did you see the photos of the blue 
custom mixte on Grant's Blahg today? It looks like someone almost made one! 
There's swoopy stays in back, and even though there's no swooptie-tube, that 
sloping tube looks lower than the standover my Bets has! 

I called the two shops that have our bikes. The Hotrock isn't yet done as 
they're missing a tool needed to put rivets in the bottle cage holes, and my 
wheel didn't come in! If I can get the Hotrock tomorrow I'll take the Husband 
Clem for our Wednesday ride to school. It's tricky, but with my Back-a-Bike 
bags on his rear rack, I can probably make it work. I mean, it's not likely 
I'll crash my way down the hill, right? I can totally handle that dangerous top 
tube, would you say? I don't *think* I'll get killed. Say a prayer.

Anyway, the weather was nasty over the weekend, but when the sun emerged every 
person who owns a bike was riding. I nearly veered into a curb admiring a rider 
and his setup on my way to Home Depot. My birthday's days away and my husband 
asked for a hint (presents are my love language!) and I said "Rivendollars." He 
asked me to explain and I just said someday I want a really, really nice 
Rivendell. And this will be like money towards that bike someday. He thinks 
he's getting off easy 

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Deacon Patrick]

Mark,

I've experienced a vast difference between hand build wheels and "stock" 
(Velocity, in my case). I destroyed my rear rim at 30mph on a curvy 
descent, snapping several spokes. Since then, on hand built (including 
Rich's) I've hit worse with more weight or lighter rims (on the QB) and 
nothing even out of true. There really is something to the craft of a 
handmade wheel yielding far more wear.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:34:36 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Yes. And worse--my new Clementine's new wheel. I had been off the bike for 
> a bit after some eye surgery. The first night coming home from work after 
> my layoff, I hit a pothole that had a pothole in it. It was still rideable 
> but after getting home and taking a look, it was clear the rim needed to be 
> replaced. This is an Atlas rim with a 2" Big Ben tire. I can only imagine 
> what might have happened if I had been on some skinny 32mm rubber...
> I am waiting for the 36h silver to come back in stock at Bikemania in NJ, 
> which sells it for $30 less than Velocity. They tell me next month. Not 
> many carry it. But don't worry, I have several alternatives that will see 
> me through, including a bike that has a healthy dose of Rivendell DNA!
>
> As for wall color, in my last house, I did a wall between the dining room 
> and kitchen in rusted Coreten steel. First I rebuilt the wall and sheathed 
> it in plywood, then I cut the 1/4" plate into random large rectangles, 
> which I then bolted to the plywood.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 3:03:44 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Mark! Not your new Clementine! How soon before it is road-worthy once 
>> more?!
>
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[panog]

@Mark in Beacon

Sometimes a pinched rim could be repaired using one of these 
http://t.harborfreight.com/6-inch-jaw-straight-sheet-metal-seamer-98728.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
 and a sanding block afterwards. Do not try it with regular pliers; they got to 
have long straight jaws so they are guided by the undamaged rim flange. Done it 
with Velocity DV after a similar encounter with a pothole like the one you 
described. Both of the flanges were severely creased from the impact.

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes. And worse--my new Clementine's new wheel. I had been off the bike for 
a bit after some eye surgery. The first night coming home from work after 
my layoff, I hit a pothole that had a pothole in it. It was still rideable 
but after getting home and taking a look, it was clear the rim needed to be 
replaced. This is an Atlas rim with a 2" Big Ben tire. I can only imagine 
what might have happened if I had been on some skinny 32mm rubber...
I am waiting for the 36h silver to come back in stock at Bikemania in NJ, 
which sells it for $30 less than Velocity. They tell me next month. Not 
many carry it. But don't worry, I have several alternatives that will see 
me through, including a bike that has a healthy dose of Rivendell DNA!

As for wall color, in my last house, I did a wall between the dining room 
and kitchen in rusted Coreten steel. First I rebuilt the wall and sheathed 
it in plywood, then I cut the 1/4" plate into random large rectangles, 
which I then bolted to the plywood.

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 3:03:44 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
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> Mark! Not your new Clementine! How soon before it is road-worthy once 
> more?!

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Garth]

Leah if you are doing a custom just tell Grant what you envision and he'll work 
with you. I bet he would come up with something even better than the what you 
may have considered ☺☺

He *could* say no to certain details but he cannot eat you !   Ahahahahahahahaa 
 


As for wall colors , h. just pretend you are color blind. Have an 
artist paint the walls as murals of your favorite places/scenes. Flat colors 
can  be just so flat. I think it would be would to cool to have real wood 
walls, or put wood flooring on them ! Endless alternatives to mere paint. Seems 
lots choose paint because lots choose paint but no one really likes blank walls 
no matter the color. 

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/18/2017 12:35 PM, Leah Peterson wrote:

You guys are so bad for me. Enablers! Do you know, just yesterday I  hired a 
painter to repaint the inside of our house, and now I wish I had plunked down that 
money for the dream Riv instead. Maybe I could live with the muddy brown paint put 
on every wall but the bedrooms (ugh). Or maybe I could have spent the next year of 
my life, paintbrush in hand and have figured out how to do those huge walls over 
the spiral staircase (asking for a broken neck here). Maybe I could do the 
Inconvenient & Hard Things because there would be the dream Riv mixte in the 
garage!


Or you could just have replaced the bulb by that spiral staircase with 
one with a lot less wattage: what the eye does not see the heart does 
not grieve, and when all candles be out, all cats be grey.



I even know what I would choose. Think: overkill. I would ask for the Cheviot 
frame with the Glorius lugs. It would be that luscious Rivendell red - with 
sparkles, is it tacky if it has sparkles?, with cream accents. Oh, and can my 
name be painted in some lovely place like we saw on that recent orange work of 
art on the Blug? It would have dynamo lighting (because oooh you fancy!) and a 
double kickstand and the prettiest Nitto racks they make. Ooooh, cream tires. 
And pixie dust. Lots of pixie dust.

And now I must get control of myself and go back to choosing gray paint for the 
walls. Barf.




Or, just go unscrew the bulb.




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Re: [Ext] Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I don't think the Glorious lugs would work on the C-tine frame design. Angles 
wouldn't work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Also, just a thought, and maybe a dumb one, but has anyone ever asked for a 
> Clementine frame with more and Glorius lugs?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> You guys are so bad for me. Enablers! Do you know, just yesterday I  hired a 
>> painter to repaint the inside of our house, and now I wish I had plunked 
>> down that money for the dream Riv instead. Maybe I could live with the muddy 
>> brown paint put on every wall but the bedrooms (ugh). Or maybe I could have 
>> spent the next year of my life, paintbrush in hand and have figured out how 
>> to do those huge walls over the spiral staircase (asking for a broken neck 
>> here). Maybe I could do the Inconvenient & Hard Things because there would 
>> be the dream Riv mixte in the garage!
>>
>> I even know what I would choose. Think: overkill. I would ask for the 
>> Cheviot frame with the Glorius lugs. It would be that luscious Rivendell red 
>> - with sparkles, is it tacky if it has sparkles?, with cream accents. Oh, 
>> and can my name be painted in some lovely place like we saw on that recent 
>> orange work of art on the Blug? It would have dynamo lighting (because oooh 
>> you fancy!) and a double kickstand and the prettiest Nitto racks they make. 
>> Ooooh, cream tires. And pixie dust. Lots of pixie dust.
>>
>> And now I must get control of myself and go back to choosing gray paint for 
>> the walls. Barf.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 5:04 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On 02/17/2017 11:23 PM, Ray Varella wrote:
 Leah,
   Not to be devils advocate, but if you are using your bike for 
 everyday transportation and or recreation, it makes good sense to have a 
 second bike.
 I've ever been reliant on a shop for my repairs and maintenance but there 
 have been many occasions where I was leaving for work and either had a 
 flat or something that I forgot to deal with the previous day and was able 
 to just grab another bike.

 Set them up a bit differently.
>>>
>>> Absolutely.  Agree 100%.  Even with a shop that has a policy of 
>>> prioritizing repairs to commuter bikes there will still be times when a 
>>> second bike will be a huge convenience.  How often have you discovered you 
>>> had a slow leak by finding one of your tires flat as you were getting ready 
>>> to ride to work?  And how many of us leave that much spare time in the 
>>> morning before heading to work that we can take the time to fix a flat 
>>> without feeling rushed and harried? I've been there often enough over the 
>>> years to really appreciate having a back-up.
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

Also, swooptie-tube and swooptie-do = guffawing at the screen

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

Mark! Not your new Clementine! How soon before it is road-worthy once more?!

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Patrick Moore]

What about a pseudo or crypto or ersatz or faux or simulated or imitation
Riv? What an opportunity for a beater-build! Then you could compare how a
close copy really fares next to the real thing.

You could use leftover house paint for the beater.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> ...
>
> I even know what I would choose. Think: overkill. I would ask for the
> Cheviot frame with the Glorius lugs. It would be that luscious Rivendell
> red - with sparkles, is it tacky if it has sparkles?, with cream accents.
> Oh, and can my name be painted in some lovely place like we saw on that
> recent orange work of art on the Blug? It would have dynamo lighting
> (because oooh you fancy!) and a double kickstand and the prettiest Nitto
> racks they make. Ooooh, cream tires. And pixie dust. Lots of pixie dust.
>

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Leah Peterson]

Also, just a thought, and maybe a dumb one, but has anyone ever asked for a 
Clementine frame with more and Glorius lugs?

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> You guys are so bad for me. Enablers! Do you know, just yesterday I  hired a 
> painter to repaint the inside of our house, and now I wish I had plunked down 
> that money for the dream Riv instead. Maybe I could live with the muddy brown 
> paint put on every wall but the bedrooms (ugh). Or maybe I could have spent 
> the next year of my life, paintbrush in hand and have figured out how to do 
> those huge walls over the spiral staircase (asking for a broken neck here). 
> Maybe I could do the Inconvenient & Hard Things because there would be the 
> dream Riv mixte in the garage!
> 
> I even know what I would choose. Think: overkill. I would ask for the Cheviot 
> frame with the Glorius lugs. It would be that luscious Rivendell red - with 
> sparkles, is it tacky if it has sparkles?, with cream accents. Oh, and can my 
> name be painted in some lovely place like we saw on that recent orange work 
> of art on the Blug? It would have dynamo lighting (because oooh you fancy!) 
> and a double kickstand and the prettiest Nitto racks they make. Ooooh, cream 
> tires. And pixie dust. Lots of pixie dust.
> 
> And now I must get control of myself and go back to choosing gray paint for 
> the walls. Barf.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 5:04 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 02/17/2017 11:23 PM, Ray Varella wrote:
>>> Leah,
>>>Not to be devils advocate, but if you are using your bike for 
>>> everyday transportation and or recreation, it makes good sense to have a 
>>> second bike.
>>> I've ever been reliant on a shop for my repairs and maintenance but there 
>>> have been many occasions where I was leaving for work and either had a flat 
>>> or something that I forgot to deal with the previous day and was able to 
>>> just grab another bike.
>>> 
>>> Set them up a bit differently.
>> 
>> Absolutely.  Agree 100%.  Even with a shop that has a policy of prioritizing 
>> repairs to commuter bikes there will still be times when a second bike will 
>> be a huge convenience.  How often have you discovered you had a slow leak by 
>> finding one of your tires flat as you were getting ready to ride to work?  
>> And how many of us leave that much spare time in the morning before heading 
>> to work that we can take the time to fix a flat without feeling rushed and 
>> harried? I've been there often enough over the years to really appreciate 
>> having a back-up.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Leah Peterson]

You guys are so bad for me. Enablers! Do you know, just yesterday I  hired a 
painter to repaint the inside of our house, and now I wish I had plunked down 
that money for the dream Riv instead. Maybe I could live with the muddy brown 
paint put on every wall but the bedrooms (ugh). Or maybe I could have spent the 
next year of my life, paintbrush in hand and have figured out how to do those 
huge walls over the spiral staircase (asking for a broken neck here). Maybe I 
could do the Inconvenient & Hard Things because there would be the dream Riv 
mixte in the garage!

I even know what I would choose. Think: overkill. I would ask for the Cheviot 
frame with the Glorius lugs. It would be that luscious Rivendell red - with 
sparkles, is it tacky if it has sparkles?, with cream accents. Oh, and can my 
name be painted in some lovely place like we saw on that recent orange work of 
art on the Blug? It would have dynamo lighting (because oooh you fancy!) and a 
double kickstand and the prettiest Nitto racks they make. Ooooh, cream tires. 
And pixie dust. Lots of pixie dust.

And now I must get control of myself and go back to choosing gray paint for the 
walls. Barf.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 5:04 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 02/17/2017 11:23 PM, Ray Varella wrote:
>> Leah,
>> Not to be devils advocate, but if you are using your bike for 
>> everyday transportation and or recreation, it makes good sense to have a 
>> second bike.
>> I've ever been reliant on a shop for my repairs and maintenance but there 
>> have been many occasions where I was leaving for work and either had a flat 
>> or something that I forgot to deal with the previous day and was able to 
>> just grab another bike.
>> 
>> Set them up a bit differently.
> 
> Absolutely.  Agree 100%.  Even with a shop that has a policy of prioritizing 
> repairs to commuter bikes there will still be times when a second bike will 
> be a huge convenience.  How often have you discovered you had a slow leak by 
> finding one of your tires flat as you were getting ready to ride to work?  
> And how many of us leave that much spare time in the morning before heading 
> to work that we can take the time to fix a flat without feeling rushed and 
> harried? I've been there often enough over the years to really appreciate 
> having a back-up.
> 
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/17/2017 11:23 PM, Ray Varella wrote:

Leah,
 Not to be devils advocate, but if you are using your bike for everyday 
transportation and or recreation, it makes good sense to have a second bike.
I've ever been reliant on a shop for my repairs and maintenance but there have 
been many occasions where I was leaving for work and either had a flat or 
something that I forgot to deal with the previous day and was able to just grab 
another bike.

Set them up a bit differently.


Absolutely.  Agree 100%.  Even with a shop that has a policy of 
prioritizing repairs to commuter bikes there will still be times when a 
second bike will be a huge convenience.  How often have you discovered 
you had a slow leak by finding one of your tires flat as you were 
getting ready to ride to work?  And how many of us leave that much spare 
time in the morning before heading to work that we can take the time to 
fix a flat without feeling rushed and harried? I've been there often 
enough over the years to really appreciate having a back-up.


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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Ray Varella]

Leah,
Not to be devils advocate, but if you are using your bike for everyday 
transportation and or recreation, it makes good sense to have a second bike. 
I've ever been reliant on a shop for my repairs and maintenance but there have 
been many occasions where I was leaving for work and either had a flat or 
something that I forgot to deal with the previous day and was able to just grab 
another bike. 

Set them up a bit differently. 
I'm setting up my Roscoe to be a bit more of a workhorse than other bikes. 

Like a good attorney, you will slowly develop your case so that it becomes so 
logical and makes such perfect sense that anyone would see how obvious it is 
that you need another bike. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

Patrick, the bike was purchased late 2012, and that wheel and tire were 
whatever Riv built the bike with. The tire was "Continental" because there were 
no Schwalbe tires in stock. 

John, I covet that baby Roscoe! You are correct: I totally deserve a Rich 
wheel, this is what we would tell my husband. But alas, I'm committed to 
whatever the shop puts on there, I guess. I wish I lived closer to Rivendell HQ 
and could have them revitalize TBBITW. 

Ryan: TBBITW = The Best Bike in the World which is my Betty, of course. Another 
BBITW is Best Bike in the World = a new Rivendell mixte!

Deacon Patrick, yes, I should totally emulate you!

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Deacon Patrick]

This. Yes. This is why I have two bikes. I varied them on the Riv spectrum, 
so a road centric Quickbeam joined my all-road but trail centric 
Hunqapillar. I highly recommend this "spread" of focus in a second best 
bike in the world -- which isn't nearly as antithetical as it seems. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

Maybe I'll just go buy another BBITW to inoculate myself from future cruel 
> tragedies.

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Ryan Fleming]

What is BBITW? Must be a new bikethese kids with their texting...I am 
not sure a person can have too many  Rivendells..lol

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:20:10 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Well, the shop called and said good news(!) your chain's got life left and 
> we trimmed your fender and reattached your mudflap. Bad news(!) the spokes 
> are pulling away from the rim (or something) and the rear wheel should be 
> replaced. Fine, whatever, just restore her to her former glory, I said. "Oh 
> good, we'll get that ordered," he said. And then my heart sunk into the 
> bottom of my chest and all my joy drained out of me at the prospect of 
> being bikeless for several more days. Maybe I'll just go buy another BBITW 
> to inoculate myself from future cruel tragedies. A Cheviot done up in red 
> and cream, I think.

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Patrick Moore]

Leah: what make and model of tire did you wear out?

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Surlyprof  wrote:

> Wow, you wore out the entire rear wheel.  Now that's impressive! (And,
> dare I say, totally daredevil?)  You should treat yourself to one of Rich's
> handbuilt wheels.  Sounds like you've earned it.
>
> Yes, if you've ridden enough miles to fully wear out an urban-type tire,
you've saved a great deal of money on auto expenses, so treat yourself to
some hand built wheels. IME, good handbuilt wheels last indefinitely, even
carrying loads, with (IME) no need for truing unless you hit something.


> Regarding replacement tires, Schwalbe's with puncture protection are great
> for durability.  However, if you want your Betty to feel better than could
> ever imagine, Compass extralights.  They may not be as durable (although
> mine are holding up well), but they are heavenly.  The folks here talked me
> into their Barlow Pass extralights and it may have been the best bike
> advice I've ever received.  You may want to talk to Jan to see how they'll
> hold up in hotter climates.


 Compass tires will hold up fine in SW US climates, but they'll flat at the
very thought of a thorn. You can fix this, 95/100, with Orange Seal in the
tubes -- the sealant will work almost immediately, and you don't have to
stop -- but there will be that 5%, which may happen on the way to school on
a rainy morning. That 5% can 99/100 be fixed by getting off, pumping, and
spinning the tire. (I speak of thorn and other very small punctures; I get
flats from larger things -- glass, nails -- only, say, once every 2 years).

I read of someone who put Mr Tuffy liners in his Compass ELs, but man!
That's like putting a B66 and seatpost rack on your Cervelo S5 Dura Ace Di2.

A middle way is some of the fatter Schwalbe road tires. The Big Apple (at
least those made when I used them) rolled very well for such heavy and
protected tires, and mine shrugged off even most goatheads. The Kojak had
enough protection to be used here in goathead land, on pavement, without
sealant and without more than the usual (a few a week) flats, and it rolled
even better (when I briefly ran 1.35 Kojaks tubeless, they felt almost as
good as Elk Passes, (EL) with tubes.

But the Parigi Roubaix, Compass-light tires, got -- literally -- a flat
every couple of miles -- before I put Stan's in the tubes.

Brief moral from longwinded windup: Yes, by all means Compass, but beware
of the downsides if you live with goatheads.

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Surlyprof]

Wow, you wore out the entire rear wheel.  Now that's impressive! (And, dare I 
say, totally daredevil?)  You should treat yourself to one of Rich's handbuilt 
wheels.  Sounds like you've earned it.

Regarding replacement tires, Schwalbe's with puncture protection are great for 
durability.  However, if you want your Betty to feel better than could ever 
imagine, Compass extralights.  They may not be as durable (although mine are 
holding up well), but they are heavenly.  The folks here talked me into their 
Barlow Pass extralights and it may have been the best bike advice I've ever 
received.  You may want to talk to Jan to see how they'll hold up in hotter 
climates.

As for the kid's bike, I was at Riv tuesday and Vince had to move their Roscoe 
Bubbe kid's bike out of the way for my bike.  I think it was Hunquapillar green 
and very cool.

John

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

Well, the shop called and said good news(!) your chain's got life left and we 
trimmed your fender and reattached your mudflap. Bad news(!) the spokes are 
pulling away from the rim (or something) and the rear wheel should be replaced. 
Fine, whatever, just restore her to her former glory, I said. "Oh good, we'll 
get that ordered," he said. And then my heart sunk into the bottom of my chest 
and all my joy drained out of me at the prospect of being bikeless for several 
more days. Maybe I'll just go buy another BBITW to inoculate myself from future 
cruel tragedies. A Cheviot done up in red and cream, I think.

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Ian A]

You were likely still some way from a blow out - you can get the tire down 
to the puncture strip (often blue in color) and run on that for some time - 
it works like a boot. When that wears out, the resultant flatting of the 
tire is not always too dramatic, as the hole that forms in the tire is 
often small enough to abrade only a small hole in the tube, causing only a 
normal flat. This happened to me on occasion on a long tour (tires were 
hard to get), but I was only prepared to risk it on the rear.  I would NOT 
recommend it though and you did the right thing changing the tire.

IanA.

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 3:05:31 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> But Bill, it was so much more thrilling when I was on the brink of 
> disaster. Can't we say it was at least a medium risk?

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Patrick Moore]

Try that with a 19-20 mm tire pumped to 120 psi and an almost instantaneous
blowout. Good times!

I was lucky; I had slowed enough that I was able to catch it.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> ... I've had several HOLY MOLY!! moments when I made a 90 degree turn not
> realizing my front tire had lost half its pressure due to a small pinhole
> puncture -

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/15/2017 04:52 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
The reason Saint Sheldon recommends that is that a flat rear tire 
almost never is dangerous.



Whereas a front flat can easily cause a crash, and can auger you right 
into the ground.  It happened to me once.  And I've had several HOLY 
MOLY!! moments when I made a 90 degree turn not realizing my front tire 
had lost half its pressure due to a small pinhole puncture -  that "WHAT 
JUST HAPPENED???" feeling when the tire rolls under itself because it 
got too soft.Usually the worst that happens when the back goes flat 
is a thump-bump thing that we all recognize.  (Although, to tell the 
truth, I once saw a rider struggling along riding with a flat rear tire 
who asked me what was wrong with her bike and didn't recognize that she 
had a flat tire -- but she was in such a state of exhaustion and 
dehydration at the time I doubt she could have told you what her name was.)


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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Bill Lindsay]

You are enjoying BORROWED TIME.  You are a DAREDEVIL, laughing in the face 
of DANGER!  HA!  

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 2:05:31 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
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> But Bill, it was so much more thrilling when I was on the brink of 
> disaster. Can't we say it was at least a medium risk?

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

But Bill, it was so much more thrilling when I was on the brink of disaster. 
Can't we say it was at least a medium risk?

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Bill Lindsay]

The reason Saint Sheldon recommends that is that a flat rear tire almost 
never is dangerous.  If we took a poll and counted up the total number of 
rear flats we have cumulatively experienced, it would be a big number. 
 Let's put that in the denominator.  Now, of those rear flats, let's take 
another poll and count up the total number of ER visits that occurred as a 
direct result of those rear flats.  I will go out on a limb that's a small 
number.  Put that in the numerator.  

That ratio:  (ER visits because of a rear flat)/(total rear flats) is the 
risk that LeahFoy took by riding that tire to utter exhaustion.  It was a 
tiny tiny risk.  It's not even fabric that is showing.  It's just a 
different color rubber showing in her photo.  

Time to replace?  Absolutely.  
Would I have replaced sooner?  Yes.  
Should Leah replace her next rear tire sooner?  Yes.
Was Leah putting herself in extreme risk?  Very very slight risk.  
Is Leah lucky to be alive?  We are all lucky to be alive.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 12:39:24 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Sheldon recommends exactly what Patrick Moore described.
>
> *Well-meaning cyclists, even some mechanics who don't know any better, 
> sometimes try to deal with this by swapping tires, putting the less worn 
> front tire on the back wheel, and moving the worn-but-usable rear tire to 
> the front. The idea is to equalize the wear on the two tires, but **this 
> is a serious mistake, don't do it!* 
>
> * The only time tire rotation is appropriate on a bicycle is when you are 
> replacing the rear tire. If you feel like taking the trouble, and use the 
> same type of tire front and rear, you should move the front tire to the 
> rear wheel, and install the new tire in front. *
>
> * The reason for this is that the front tire is much more critical for 
> safety than the rear, so you should have the more reliable tire on the 
> front. *
>
> * If you have a blowout, if it is on the rear tire, you have a very good 
> chance of bringing the bike to a controlled stop. If your front tire blows, 
> you can lose steering control, and a crash is a real possibility. *
>
>
> On 02/15/2017 01:31 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> The great Sheldon Brown recommends rotating tires when the rear tire is 
> replaced: 
>
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html 
>
> --Eric N
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.CampyOnly.com
> Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> @Campyonlyguy
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
> Time for a new one! One recommended practice is to rotate the relatively 
> fresh front tire to the rear, and put the new one on the front, thus 
> ensuring that the tire whose condition is most important to safety is 
> always at the front.  
>
> But good for you for getting in all those miles!
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, LeahFoy  > wrote:
>
>> I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check 
>> things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong, honest! I bought my 
>> bike in late 2012 from RBW headquarters, and I don't get to ride as much as 
>> a lot of you folks, so I thought I was doing alright with the tire tread. I 
>> have a fendered bike, and I now know that YOU MUST NOT EVALUATE YOUR BACK 
>> TIRE  SOLELY BY LOOKING AT YOUR FRONT TIRE.
>>
>> I was sitting cross-legged, waiting for the boys to be dismissed from 
>> school. Imagine my shock. The first photo shows the deceptive angle in 
>> which I thought all was well. The second reveals the painful truth. It 
>> would be a looonnn trek pushing that bike uphill loaded with school 
>> stuff. To the bike shop I go, in the morning!
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Tim Gavin]

Regarding index shifting for the Clem, Microshift makes thumb shifters, or
he could use Shimano MTB trigger shifters.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Decent children's bikes last forever. The problem is that the dimestore
> bikes (my current contemptuous name for the big box store ersatz bicycle
> things) have gotten cheaper and cheaper and are junk.
>
> My father bought me a JC Higgins with cantilever frame, coaster brake,
> white rims, and 24" wheels for my 7th birthday. The bike was passed down,
> but I was still thrashing it at age 15 or 16, doing impromptu cyclocross on
> the muddy paths in our large front yard (made slippery-er by the layer of
> rotting blossoms left on the ground by the row of jacaranda trees). No one
> ever did any maintenance to it in the 8 or 10 years we owned the bike. (I
> rattlecanned it with matt metallic gold spray paint meant for craft
> projects -- the paint lasted.)
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:14 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Ah, now the Hotrock. [...] That bike, can you believe this, has lasted
>> from Easter of 1st grade to present day 5th grade. We bought it too big,
>> but E grew into it and has put countless miles on it ever since.
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Patrick Moore]

Decent children's bikes last forever. The problem is that the dimestore
bikes (my current contemptuous name for the big box store ersatz bicycle
things) have gotten cheaper and cheaper and are junk.

My father bought me a JC Higgins with cantilever frame, coaster brake,
white rims, and 24" wheels for my 7th birthday. The bike was passed down,
but I was still thrashing it at age 15 or 16, doing impromptu cyclocross on
the muddy paths in our large front yard (made slippery-er by the layer of
rotting blossoms left on the ground by the row of jacaranda trees). No one
ever did any maintenance to it in the 8 or 10 years we owned the bike. (I
rattlecanned it with matt metallic gold spray paint meant for craft
projects -- the paint lasted.)

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:14 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> [...]
>
> Ah, now the Hotrock. [...] That bike, can you believe this, has lasted
> from Easter of 1st grade to present day 5th grade. We bought it too big,
> but E grew into it and has put countless miles on it ever since.

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[LeahFoy]

I don't know whether to feel proud or embarrassed about that tire! On the one 
hand, I wrung out every last drop. On the other hand, geez, I'd rather pay for 
new tires than hospital bills! I was doing my make-up this morning and 
imagining how I might look missing half my teeth. That tire never did fail me. 
I nervously rode it the 2 mile uphill journey home, laden with all the stuff, 
and still, all was well. If you knew what I ninny I am about injury, you'd know 
I would never have made this decision on purpose - it's just that the side view 
of the tire made it look fine under that fender. But since that view was rather 
obscured, I looked at the front one and since it was ok, I figured so was the 
rear. How wrong I was! I'm a registered nurse, formerly working in the 
Emergency Department, and I am risk-adverse to say the least. This morning I 
immediately loaded up TBBITW, TSBBITW ("The Second Best Bike in the World" 
Jonas' Clem) and the 24 inch Specialized Hotrock to take them for tune-ups. 

Bill, I made sure to stress that they evaluate my chain. I'm having my front 
fender trimmed back so it doesn't drag on grass nor bump the curb anymore. I 
told them to address the faulty washers/missing washers in my Silver friction 
shifters, and had them look at the brakes. I don't know what tires they're 
putting on there, but the mechanic seemed to want to replace them with the same 
tires again.

My husband's Clem was making a rubbing noise at a hub and they're going to fix 
that. Also, I asked them how much $ for index shifting? It's just painful to 
listen to him shift, you guys. I don't know why this is so hard. The guy is 
extremely high functioning but he can't shift his bike without major theatrics. 
But he's darling, so whatever. 

Ah, now the Hotrock. (I feel like making a Kids Bikes That Have Stood the Test 
of Time thread so we can all chime in about great kiddo bikes and how we've 
used and abused them. It's not Riv content, but since Riv doesn't offer kid 
bikes I feel like we could bend the rules *wink.*) That bike, can you believe 
this, has lasted from Easter of 1st grade to present day 5th grade. We bought 
it too big, but E grew into it and has put countless miles on it ever since. He 
also needed new tires (I felt sheepish when they noticed this just as we were 
wheeling it in), needed his water bottle bosses fixed (frame defect that made 
them loosen, fall out and can't be put back on without "rivets."), and - horror 
- his rear brake cable was ready to snap. $148 for his bike alone. I hesitated, 
but only for a second, because I think that bike will claim vintage status in 
the family someday. My parents saved my little brother's rad little white steel 
Schwinn and it was my boys' all-time favorite to ride whenever we went back 
home during the summer.

So, all in all, a good day. I didn't smash my face in on a crash down the Hill 
from Hades, and my son's brakes held up, and everyone gets a new and improved 
bike in a few days' time, and the LBS gets some money. Thanks for all your 
advice here! I used it all at the LBS!

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Steve Palincsar]

Sheldon recommends exactly what Patrick Moore described.

   /Well-meaning cyclists, even some mechanics who don't know any
   better, sometimes try to deal with this by swapping tires, putting
   the less worn front tire on the back wheel, and moving the
   worn-but-usable rear tire to the front. The idea is to equalize the
   wear on the two tires, but //*this is a serious mistake, don't do
   it!*///

   //

   /The only time tire rotation is appropriate on a bicycle is when you
   are replacing the rear tire. If you feel like taking the trouble,
   and use the same type of tire front and rear, you should move the
   front tire to the rear wheel, and install the new tire in front. /

   //

   /The reason for this is that the front tire is much more critical
   for safety than the rear, so you should have the more reliable tire
   on the front. /

   //

   /If you have a blowout, if it is on the rear tire, you have a very
   good chance of bringing the bike to a controlled stop. If your front
   tire blows, you can lose steering control, and a crash is a real
   possibility. /


On 02/15/2017 01:31 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
The great Sheldon Brown recommends rotating tires when the rear tire 
is replaced:


http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html

--Eric N
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Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
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On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Patrick Moore > wrote:


Time for a new one! One recommended practice is to rotate the 
relatively fresh front tire to the rear, and put the new one on the 
front, thus ensuring that the tire whose condition is most important 
to safety is always at the front.


But good for you for getting in all those miles!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, LeahFoy > wrote:


I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I
do check things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong,
honest! I bought my bike in late 2012 from RBW headquarters, and
I don't get to ride as much as a lot of you folks, so I thought I
was doing alright with the tire tread. I have a fendered bike,
and I now know that YOU MUST NOT EVALUATE YOUR BACK TIRE  SOLELY
BY LOOKING AT YOUR FRONT TIRE.

I was sitting cross-legged, waiting for the boys to be dismissed
from school. Imagine my shock. The first photo shows the
deceptive angle in which I thought all was well. The second
reveals the painful truth. It would be a looonnn trek pushing
that bike uphill loaded with school stuff. To the bike shop I go,
in the morning!

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Eric Norris]

The great Sheldon Brown recommends rotating tires when the rear tire is 
replaced:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html 
 

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> On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Time for a new one! One recommended practice is to rotate the relatively 
> fresh front tire to the rear, and put the new one on the front, thus ensuring 
> that the tire whose condition is most important to safety is always at the 
> front. 
> 
> But good for you for getting in all those miles!
> 
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, LeahFoy  > wrote:
> I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check 
> things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong, honest! I bought my 
> bike in late 2012 from RBW headquarters, and I don't get to ride as much as a 
> lot of you folks, so I thought I was doing alright with the tire tread. I 
> have a fendered bike, and I now know that YOU MUST NOT EVALUATE YOUR BACK 
> TIRE  SOLELY BY LOOKING AT YOUR FRONT TIRE.
> 
> I was sitting cross-legged, waiting for the boys to be dismissed from school. 
> Imagine my shock. The first photo shows the deceptive angle in which I 
> thought all was well. The second reveals the painful truth. It would be a 
> looonnn trek pushing that bike uphill loaded with school stuff. To the 
> bike shop I go, in the morning!
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Patrick Moore]

Time for a new one! One recommended practice is to rotate the relatively
fresh front tire to the rear, and put the new one on the front, thus
ensuring that the tire whose condition is most important to safety is
always at the front.

But good for you for getting in all those miles!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check
> things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong, honest! I bought my
> bike in late 2012 from RBW headquarters, and I don't get to ride as much as
> a lot of you folks, so I thought I was doing alright with the tire tread. I
> have a fendered bike, and I now know that YOU MUST NOT EVALUATE YOUR BACK
> TIRE  SOLELY BY LOOKING AT YOUR FRONT TIRE.
>
> I was sitting cross-legged, waiting for the boys to be dismissed from
> school. Imagine my shock. The first photo shows the deceptive angle in
> which I thought all was well. The second reveals the painful truth. It
> would be a looonnn trek pushing that bike uphill loaded with school
> stuff. To the bike shop I go, in the morning!
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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Steve Palincsar]

"Good to the very last drop"


On 02/14/2017 07:00 PM, LeahFoy wrote:

I am no bike mechanic, as the following photos will prove. But I do check 
things out and (mostly) notice when things are wrong, honest! I bought my bike 
in late 2012 from RBW headquarters, and I don't get to ride as much as a lot of 
you folks, so I thought I was doing alright with the tire tread. I have a 
fendered bike, and I now know that YOU MUST NOT EVALUATE YOUR BACK TIRE  SOLELY 
BY LOOKING AT YOUR FRONT TIRE.

I was sitting cross-legged, waiting for the boys to be dismissed from school. 
Imagine my shock. The first photo shows the deceptive angle in which I thought 
all was well. The second reveals the painful truth. It would be a looonnn 
trek pushing that bike uphill loaded with school stuff. To the bike shop I go, 
in the morning!



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[RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[panog]

Well, you got your fair use out of this tire! In a pinch a tire boot made out 
of a folded dollar bill may be enough to take you home so you avoid the 
walking. When you replace the tire consider cutting off a 4" long section, 
minus the beads, to carry in your repair pack as a tire boot for future use, 
just in case.

Pano Gianniotis in Wash. DC

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