Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
Yeah, I have a good memory for this stuff. The first Reader that introduced the Longlow as a concept contained a detailed explanation of the philosophy behind the bike. Grant explained that they would make them with the option of either cantis for greater tire clearance or for standard reach sidepulls for greater tire clearance. At the time, the future of standard reach sidepulls was much more questionable, but Grant hadn't given up on them. So both cantis and standard reach sidepulls were specifically verbalized as options for the bike. This was in the late 90's. I believe at this time the Road Standard had much less tire clearance than is now considered acceptable for a Rivendell. I think the Rambouillet is essentially a Longlow, but when it came out in 2002, the future of standard reach sidepulls had become much more rosy. Hence the Ram and Rom were designed for sidepulls only. (Until that lovely error that produced the canti-Rom.) -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Forrest Sent: Nov 10, 2011 9:07 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist RBW did indeed build several canti LongLows. You can see at least one on cyclofiend's Current Classics site. -- Forrest (Iowa City) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZP-IOCKaWoQJ.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
My '98 canti LongLow (Joe/Joe): http://diesel.smugmug.com/Shiny-Things/Rivendell-LongLow/ - Andrew, Berkeley On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Forrest wrote: > RBW did indeed build several canti LongLows. You can see at least one on > cyclofiend's Current Classics site. -- Forrest (Iowa City) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
RBW did indeed build several canti LongLows. You can see at least one on cyclofiend's Current Classics site. -- Forrest (Iowa City) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZP-IOCKaWoQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
The LongLow on Flickr that cyclotourist refers to is mine. -- fm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/veYr46fCEgUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
Get some full-sized pix from the seller. Find out if it's a Waterford or Joe/Joe build. Then at that point, go see it in person if you're in the Bay Area. If it's Joe/Joe, it's pretty well priced. W'ford, not so much so. FYI, here's a tantalizing lead recently dropped on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/6017878228/ Looks to be about the same size and with a better documented pedigree. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It is not an Atlantis, and I see no reason to consider this a scam. > > Considering all the variations we've seen in Rivendell models over the > > years, I have no reason to doubt that Grant/Waterford put together a > > canti-LongLow. If you think it's overpriced, make an offer. Treating it > as > > BS seems unfair to me. > > > > Well - to be fair it's been up and down on craigslist for about 2yrs > now - the price has changed a bit over time but nothing else has. > > Most of the time that's evidence of something being priced wrong or > something _else_ being wrong which is scaring off other buyers. > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > It is not an Atlantis, and I see no reason to consider this a scam. > Considering all the variations we've seen in Rivendell models over the > years, I have no reason to doubt that Grant/Waterford put together a > canti-LongLow. If you think it's overpriced, make an offer. Treating it as > BS seems unfair to me. > Well - to be fair it's been up and down on craigslist for about 2yrs now - the price has changed a bit over time but nothing else has. Most of the time that's evidence of something being priced wrong or something _else_ being wrong which is scaring off other buyers. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
It is not an Atlantis, and I see no reason to consider this a scam. Considering all the variations we've seen in Rivendell models over the years, I have no reason to doubt that Grant/Waterford put together a canti-LongLow. If you think it's overpriced, make an offer. Treating it as BS seems unfair to me. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pV9PffVPDbsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
HI Thomas. How about visiting RIv (I'm assuming you're local given the SF Craigslist link) and checking out a new Sam Hillborne ($1050 frame/fork)? It would make for a great all-purpose bike and is quality, comfortable steel. And, with the extra $300 you save on the frame/fork, you can pick some useful accessories, like racks, lights, and fenders, etc. Just my two cents. Lee SF, CA On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Thomas B wrote: > I wanted to get some advice on a recent posting for a +10 year old > Long Low advertised on Bay area Craigslist. I've read some of the > older comments on this discussion group and it seems like a frameset > that has been offered and discussed before several times, albeit at > higher prices. > > Please check out the post. 'Rivendell Long Low Preproduction - 60cm > Frame & Fork Only - $1350' - > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2694438431.html > > The price seems a bit high to me seeing as the complete bike retailed > at ~$2450, back in the late 90's (?). Also note there is a small dent > in the TT. > > I am new to bikes and RBW but would like a quality comfortable steel > bike. Any advice you guys could give would be appreciated. Does the > fact it is preproduction make it any less of a bike? Are canti brakes > any good? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist
The production frames of the time went for $1100 up to $1400 by 1996, IIRC. A cream head tube was an extra $100 option and was later standard. On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Thomas B wrote: > The price seems a bit high to me seeing as the complete bike retailed > at ~$2450, back in the late 90's (?). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
