[GitHub] [spark] rdblue commented on pull request #28523: [SPARK-31706][SQL] add back the support of streaming update mode

2020-05-28 Thread GitBox


rdblue commented on pull request #28523:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/28523#issuecomment-635683658


   I agree that if it is a misunderstanding, then a veto isn't binding. And the 
way to handle that situation is to discuss why the justification was based on a 
misunderstanding and make sure there is agreement. Misunderstanding goes both 
ways, so I don't think it would be safe to simply ignore someone if you think 
they missed something.
   
   Also, I don't think that "qualified voter" refers only to PMC members. 
That's not how it has worked in my experience, though this can vary between 
communities. A qualified voter is normally a committer, but could also be a 
contributor. Someone who it's a good idea to listen to if they raise a serious 
concern -- the purpose is to reach consensus by taking the time to discuss the 
problem. And in this case, I was pointing out that (I thought) this PR went 
against a previous _community decision_ to not expose this as a public API.



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[GitHub] [spark] rdblue commented on pull request #28523: [SPARK-31706][SQL] add back the support of streaming update mode

2020-05-26 Thread GitBox


rdblue commented on pull request #28523:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/28523#issuecomment-633641667


   @cloud-fan, sorry for my confusion here. From the summary, I didn't realize 
that this actually added back the streaming modes using private interfaces and 
mistakenly thought you were trying to add back the public interfaces. That's 
what I intended to -1 and I didn't realize the mistake until you pointed out 
that the code hadn't changed, even now.
   
   I took the early lack of changes as simply a lack of progress, which led to 
my surprise when this was merged. Next time, let's try to communicate more 
clearly. Perhaps you didn't realize why I was confused, too, but it would have 
been helpful to point out that the solution we agreed on was what was already 
implemented. And it is still necessary to have a veto reversed; there is no 
timeout and inferring that a veto has been reversed is unreliable compared to 
asking for clarification.



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[GitHub] [spark] rdblue commented on pull request #28523: [SPARK-31706][SQL] add back the support of streaming update mode

2020-05-21 Thread GitBox


rdblue commented on pull request #28523:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/28523#issuecomment-632185172


   This PR wasn't ready to review until late Monday where I am, and was merged 
less than a day later. I had also assumed that the fix would be in a separate 
PR, which is why I didn't follow this one too closely.
   
   In any case, if you want to merge a PR that has been vetoed, make sure 
concerns are satisfied. Being "active" is not a requirement and is poorly 
defined. That's not a valid excuse.



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[GitHub] [spark] rdblue commented on pull request #28523: [SPARK-31706][SQL] add back the support of streaming update mode

2020-05-20 Thread GitBox


rdblue commented on pull request #28523:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/28523#issuecomment-631608137


   @cloud-fan, please stop merging pull requests that have a standing 
[veto](https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html). It is better to ask for 
a review.



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