Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server

[James Harrison]

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Bit of a nasty kludge, but if netcat is dying regularly:

while true; do netcat blah; sleep 5; done

Best solution like Fred said is to update, though.

Cheers,
James Harrison

On 10 May 2012 22:17:06, Geoff Barkman wrote:
> May be there is something wrong to the process running in the
> background with an ampersand (&) ?
>
> If you wanted to get rid of the terminals and still run it the way you
> do. Bring up the non-graphical login screen on Ubuntu run one process
> on ALT-CTRL-F2 and the other on ALT-CTRL-F3. To return to the
> graphical environment hit ALT-CTRL-F7 (where your Rdairplay is
> running)
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Tom Dawson  wrote:
>> Not really a solution, but it has been working for us for nearly 3 months
>> now :) Also on Ubuntu 10.04 with 1.72 here... I just leave two terminal
>> windows running in the background - one for streamupdate.sh and and I
>> manually start the netcat process with settings in the other, for example:
>>
>> netcat -k -u -l 6868 > /home/user/streamdata/song.dat
>>
>> It's not especially elegant as there's a two terminal windows there, but
>> most of our presenters only use RDAirplay anyway so it isn't an issue for us
>> at present.
>>
>> Come to mention it, I was testing this on another machine the other day, and
>> netcat did die for me whenever it was launched from a script. I.e. it would
>> save one title update to the song.dat file but would then end. Thought
>> nothing of it as I was just experimenting, but could be an issue with
>> ubuntu/netcat maybe?
>>
>> I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next data,
>> does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just being
>> daft?
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Tom Dawson
>> FANTASY RADIO
>> www.fantasyradio.co.uk
>>
>>
>> On 10/05/2012 12:32, Geoff Barkman wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell
>>>
>>> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72
>>> But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast
>>> server.
>>>
>>> I've modified as per the instructions...
>>>
>>> NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of
>>> this version, you'll have to change the options passed to "nc" in the
>>> "song.sh" file. Change
>>>
>>> netcat -l -u -p $port>  $songdat&
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> netcat -k -u -l $port>  $songdat&
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it?
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>> Geoff
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Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server

[Geoff Barkman]

May be there is something wrong to the process running in the
background with an ampersand (&) ?

If you wanted to get rid of the terminals and still run it the way you
do. Bring up the non-graphical login screen on Ubuntu run one process
on ALT-CTRL-F2 and the other on ALT-CTRL-F3. To return to the
graphical environment hit ALT-CTRL-F7 (where your Rdairplay is
running)

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Tom Dawson  wrote:
> Not really a solution, but it has been working for us for nearly 3 months
> now :) Also on Ubuntu 10.04 with 1.72 here... I just leave two terminal
> windows running in the background - one for streamupdate.sh and and I
> manually start the netcat process with settings in the other, for example:
>
> netcat -k -u -l 6868 > /home/user/streamdata/song.dat
>
> It's not especially elegant as there's a two terminal windows there, but
> most of our presenters only use RDAirplay anyway so it isn't an issue for us
> at present.
>
> Come to mention it, I was testing this on another machine the other day, and
> netcat did die for me whenever it was launched from a script. I.e. it would
> save one title update to the song.dat file but would then end. Thought
> nothing of it as I was just experimenting, but could be an issue with
> ubuntu/netcat maybe?
>
> I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next data,
> does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just being
> daft?
>
> HTH
>
> Tom Dawson
> FANTASY RADIO
> www.fantasyradio.co.uk
>
>
> On 10/05/2012 12:32, Geoff Barkman wrote:
>>
>> I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki.
>>
>>
>> http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell
>>
>> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72
>> But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast
>> server.
>>
>> I've modified as per the instructions...
>>
>> NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of
>> this version, you'll have to change the options passed to "nc" in the
>> "song.sh" file. Change
>>
>> netcat -l -u -p $port>  $songdat&
>>
>> to
>>
>> netcat -k -u -l $port>  $songdat&
>>
>>
>> Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Geoff
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>> --
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>> Tom Dawson
>> Fantasy Radio
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[James Harrison]

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Having a more flexible interface for rdairplay/rdpanel (and maybe other
tools) with pluggable modules, maybe some generic ones (display image
refreshed periodically, display result of command rerun periodically,
script tray for show/log+current song notes, extra meters etc), all of
which could be dynamically swapped out depending on station or presenter
requirements? Just have a button next to that area which lets you pick
from the available modules.

Of course, making the entire UI flexible in this way would be very neat.
It would probably require significant refactoring to pull out specific
stuff from rdairplay to a public API, but the results could be great -
primarily vocal shows could have their main log next to a big script
window, music shows can have their main detailed log next to a button
panel and an aux log for playing hooks etc... lot of work, but the
payoff could be huge.

That, and I suspect I'm not the only one who reckons that a bit of an
overhaul of the Rivendell GUI wouldn't hurt. (Well, maybe it'd hurt
Fred, but... :-)) It does all look a bit tired and a pretty face may not
have significant technical benefits, but it does help a lot when trying
to convince management etc.

Little bit OT: How about getting Rivendell 3.x in Git/throwing it up on
Github? CVS is now old enough that I have issues installing it on most
distros I use... :-)

Cheers,
James Harrison


On 10/05/2012 15:22, John Anderson wrote:
> I don't like complicating Rivendell with a bunch of other clutter...as
we can see, just about everyone has a different thought on what works
for them...
>
> (I like the ability to put liner cards and stuff up, some people want
promo copy, etc)...
>
>
> what could really be interesting is a window, that you could run other
programs of choice...I saw this with some bbs software years ago, you
could basically "drop to dos", and then run anything you wanted, the
program would then display the program to the caller on the other end of
the modem)... we don't need to go that far, but if there was a window,
that could be assigned at will, everyone might be happy???
>
> -
> *From:* T.J. Misilo 
> *To:* User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System

> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
>
> I would suggest adding the ability to monitor inputs to Rivendell or
the sound card. In our current system setup we play out tracks through
rdairplay into our mixer then record back into the computer and send the
audio to the encoder (darkice) using jack. It would be nice if you could
select an additional channel or channels to monitor as a visual cue to
the host that their audio is making it back into the system, and at a
proper level.
>
> T.J.
> Florida Tech College Radio
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Re: [RDD] off topic question

[Alan Peterson]

BSI was the creator of WaveStation. 
Can you not find anyone helpful in the site's Forum 
(http://support.bsiusa.com/forum/index.php)?

AP





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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:35:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [RDD] off topic question

Please forgive the intrusion to this list and the questions at hand. I am need 
of assistance connecting the IPump from Wegener. Using the old "Wave Station" 
If anyone can direct me to a source of folks using this that I can contact for 
information.
Thanks
Dan Kolenda
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Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server

[Fred Gleason]

On May 10, 2012, at 07:42 36, Tom Dawson wrote:

> I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next 
> data, does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just 
> being daft?

The API changed between 1.x and 2.x, so some backporting would be necessary.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server

[Fred Gleason]

On May 10, 2012, at 07:32 59, Geoff Barkman wrote:

> Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it?

Upgrade to 2.x, which includes an RLM for updating Shoutcast.  Alternatively, 
you could backport that RLM to v1.x.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[David R. Wilson]

Hi guys,

Would it be helpful to have live copy / notes scheduled with the music
and displayed in the second screen?

I have always seen folders and notes on almost every board I have ever
used.

Fred may want to comment on whether that would be possible, or worth the
effort.

Dave

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[RDD] off topic question

[Daniel Kolenda Jr.]

Please forgive the intrusion to this list and the questions at hand. I am need 
of assistance connecting the IPump from Wegener. Using the old "Wave Station" 
If anyone can direct me to a source of folks using this that I can contact for 
information.
Thanks
Dan Kolenda
WVIJ FM
w...@wvij.com
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[John Anderson]

I don't like complicating Rivendell with a bunch of other clutter...as we can 
see, just about everyone has a different thought on what works for them...

(I like the ability to put liner cards and stuff up, some people want promo 
copy, etc)...


what could really be interesting is a window, that you could run other programs 
of choice...I saw this with some bbs software years ago, you could basically 
"drop to dos", and then run anything you wanted, the program would then display 
the program to the caller on the other end of the modem)...  we don't need to 
go that far, but if there was a window, that could be assigned at will, 
everyone might be happy???



>
> From: T.J. Misilo 
>To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
> 
>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
> 
>
>I would suggest adding the ability to monitor inputs to Rivendell or the sound 
>card.  In our current system setup we play out tracks through rdairplay into 
>our mixer then record back into the computer and send the audio to the encoder 
>(darkice) using jack.  It would be nice if you could select an additional 
>channel or channels to monitor as a visual cue to the host that their audio is 
>making it back into the system, and at a proper level.
>
>
>T.J.
>Florida Tech College Radio
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[T.J. Misilo]

I would suggest adding the ability to monitor inputs to Rivendell or the
sound card.  In our current system setup we play out tracks through
rdairplay into our mixer then record back into the computer and send the
audio to the encoder (darkice) using jack.  It would be nice if you could
select an additional channel or channels to monitor as a visual cue to the
host that their audio is making it back into the system, and at a proper
level.

T.J.
Florida Tech College Radio
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[Wayne Merricks]

I'll join in with the script window.  We have that facility on an 
ancient play out system where we put simple stuff in like "Featured in 
the film The Three Idiots starring some really famous guy".

It helps as a prompt for presenters who don't always have a clue what 
the song is.

Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
0121 522 6080


On 10/05/12 08:00, James Harrison wrote:
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> +1 to the segue idea. Being able to put scripts into Rivendell that can
> be displayed in that area would also be great - not all stations do
> voicetracking so this would perhaps be useful to them. Detailed current
> item info might also be useful (notes etc).
>
> http://www.psquared.net/umbraco/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/15585/log-active.png
> - - this is how Myriad's log screen looks (the new one, V4, at least) -
> the segue editor there lets you drag the waveforms about to change
> links, just for some reflection on what that product does.
>
> Also - with 16x9 monitors we'd have more space both in rdairplay -and-
> rdpanel; what could go in the side of rdpanel other than more buttons?
>
> Cheers,
> James Harrison
>
> On 10 May 2012 07:10:09, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote:
>>> I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now.  One item that is already 
>>> on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have 
>>> the required real estate.
>> That sounds really nice :-)
>>
>>> What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate?
>> One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current
>> playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on.
>> This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[Nathan Steele]

I like all of the ideas so far. How about a screen that would let you 
record phone calls to put on air with a quick turn around?

Nathaniel C. Steele
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On 5/10/2012 3:00 AM, James Harrison wrote:
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> +1 to the segue idea. Being able to put scripts into Rivendell that can
> be displayed in that area would also be great - not all stations do
> voicetracking so this would perhaps be useful to them. Detailed current
> item info might also be useful (notes etc).
>
> http://www.psquared.net/umbraco/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/15585/log-active.png
> - - this is how Myriad's log screen looks (the new one, V4, at least) -
> the segue editor there lets you drag the waveforms about to change
> links, just for some reflection on what that product does.
>
> Also - with 16x9 monitors we'd have more space both in rdairplay -and-
> rdpanel; what could go in the side of rdpanel other than more buttons?
>
> Cheers,
> James Harrison
>
> On 10 May 2012 07:10:09, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote:
>>> I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now.  One item that is already 
>>> on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have 
>>> the required real estate.
>> That sounds really nice :-)
>>
>>> What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate?
>> One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current
>> playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on.
>> This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
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Re: [RDD] Mysql syntax

[Wayne Merricks]

So the complicating issue is the fact that the group is stored in the 
CART table where as the PLAY_COUNTER is associated with the CUTS table.

The linking field is that NUMBER in CART is the CART_NUMBER in CUTS.

The easiest way I know how to do this is by an UPDATE via INNER JOIN.  
So for your example you'd do something like the following:

update CUTS
inner join CART on CUTS.CART_NUMBER = CART.NUMBER
set CUTS.PLAY_COUNTER = 0
where CART.GROUP_NAME = 'The Group I want to change'

For testing I suggest picking one CUT_NAME that you want to set to 0 and 
changing the WHERE clause to:

where CART.GROUP_NAME = 'The Group I want to change' and CUT.CUT_NAME = 
'The Cut Name For Testing'

This way you will only update 1 record and you can see whether it worked 
before rolling it out to the whole DB and potentially stuffing something 
up with an untested statement.

You could save the above as an SQL file (although to be fair any old 
text file will work).  Then have a bash script that ran as a cron job.

with the following mysql command:

mysql -u root -pMyBrilliantPassword Rivendell < pathToMySQLFile

Please note I'm not a MySQL expert, I don't know if there is a better 
way to do this as MySQL Joins are quite computationally expensive.

Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
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> My mysql script writing abilities are limited.  I found the script to
> set the PLAY_COUNTER to 0 and would like to expand on it to set the
> counter to 0 only in one GROUP or by using a key in one of the CART values.
>
> Thanks for any help,
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[Alan Peterson]

One thing I don't get about Myriad's layout is why so much real estate is 
devoted to the width of the NOW, NEXT and LATER events, as well as the width of 
the log in the lower part of the screen. With the absence of any text or useful 
info, that's an awful lot of "white space" going unused.

I get it if the design is going for a 'comfort factor' by emulating the spacing 
found on paper logs of yore. But broadcasters who have come in over the past 10 
years have likely never worked with hardcopy logs and would not see the 
parallel. 

Although I *do* admit I like the ability to color-code the background on 
certain events, as well as assign icons to them (Music, Time, etc). I saw RCS 
do this more than a decade ago, but their icons were extremely cartooney. The 
ones used by Myriad are just subtle enough to be understood without being 
visually intrusive.

Just putting in my .02 milliwatts...

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server

[Tom Dawson]

Not really a solution, but it has been working for us for nearly 3 
months now :) Also on Ubuntu 10.04 with 1.72 here... I just leave two 
terminal windows running in the background - one for streamupdate.sh and 
and I manually start the netcat process with settings in the other, for 
example:

netcat -k -u -l 6868 > /home/user/streamdata/song.dat

It's not especially elegant as there's a two terminal windows there, but 
most of our presenters only use RDAirplay anyway so it isn't an issue 
for us at present.

Come to mention it, I was testing this on another machine the other day, 
and netcat did die for me whenever it was launched from a script. I.e. 
it would save one title update to the song.dat file but would then end. 
Thought nothing of it as I was just experimenting, but could be an issue 
with ubuntu/netcat maybe?

I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next 
data, does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just 
being daft?

HTH

Tom Dawson
FANTASY RADIO
www.fantasyradio.co.uk

On 10/05/2012 12:32, Geoff Barkman wrote:
> I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki.
>
> http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell
>
> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72
> But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast 
> server.
>
> I've modified as per the instructions...
>
> NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of
> this version, you'll have to change the options passed to "nc" in the
> "song.sh" file. Change
>
> netcat -l -u -p $port>  $songdat&
>
> to
>
> netcat -k -u -l $port>  $songdat&
>
>
> Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it?
>
> Many thanks
> Geoff
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[RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server

[Geoff Barkman]

I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki.

http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell

I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72
But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast server.

I've modified as per the instructions...

NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of
this version, you'll have to change the options passed to "nc" in the
"song.sh" file. Change

netcat -l -u -p $port > $songdat &

to

netcat -k -u -l $port > $songdat &


Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it?

Many thanks
Geoff
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors

[James Harrison]

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+1 to the segue idea. Being able to put scripts into Rivendell that can
be displayed in that area would also be great - not all stations do
voicetracking so this would perhaps be useful to them. Detailed current
item info might also be useful (notes etc).

http://www.psquared.net/umbraco/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/15585/log-active.png
- - this is how Myriad's log screen looks (the new one, V4, at least) -
the segue editor there lets you drag the waveforms about to change
links, just for some reflection on what that product does.

Also - with 16x9 monitors we'd have more space both in rdairplay -and-
rdpanel; what could go in the side of rdpanel other than more buttons?

Cheers,
James Harrison

On 10 May 2012 07:10:09, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote:
>> I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now.  One item that is already 
>> on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have 
>> the required real estate.
>
> That sounds really nice :-)
>
>> What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate?
>
> One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current
> playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on.
> This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Morten
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