Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
can it move blocks of records in one go? On 3 March 2010 16:13, Steve Parry-Thomas wrote: > >>Roger Jowett > >> can i use a real compact flash card for the atom lite in it? no didnt > thinkso > > > Yes, you can I have been using SAM with Pro-Dos all morning using CF Flash > cards. > (I have been recovering cp/m data for a company) > > I have two Atom Lites one for each bay with a total of 4 CF cards. The two > of the cards are > Kingston 2GB ones. I use my SAM as a CP/M system with Pro-dos and Aton Lite > works a fine. > > You need the AL-Boot ROM and if you are using Pro-Dos you will need the AL > version. > ( Thanks to Edwin for hacking it to work after my nagging). > > To move date/records between SAM (CF cards) and PC use Simons SAMdisk tool. > > Steve(spt) > > >
RE: New SAM emulator for Windows
>>Roger Jowett >> can i use a real compact flash card for the atom lite in it? no didnt thinkso Yes, you can I have been using SAM with Pro-Dos all morning using CF Flash cards. (I have been recovering cp/m data for a company) I have two Atom Lites one for each bay with a total of 4 CF cards. The two of the cards are Kingston 2GB ones. I use my SAM as a CP/M system with Pro-dos and Aton Lite works a fine. You need the AL-Boot ROM and if you are using Pro-Dos you will need the AL version. ( Thanks to Edwin for hacking it to work after my nagging). To move date/records between SAM (CF cards) and PC use Simons SAMdisk tool. Steve(spt)
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
can i use a real compact flash card for the atom lite in it? no didnt thinkso On 2 March 2010 13:33, Geoff Winkless wrote: > My view is that back in '95 or so, when the emulators first kicked off, not > emulating currently-available hardware made sense; however I think that > these days anyone who wants to use the real machine will continue to do so > whether on not their favourite bit of hardware is emulated. > > I will not be going back to slow loading times, corrupted disks and endless > 5-minute modify-assemble-run-crash-reboot cycles. Those (like me) who just > want to have a quick play with stuff they used to enjoy will probably only > ever use emulators - I don't really see that the two markets overlap. > > But hey, I have little enough time to play with my "real world" stuff, let > alone the nostalgic kind. I'm probably not part of either group any more :( > > Geoff > > > 2010/3/2 Adrian Brown > > Obviously opened a can of worms there :D It was only my thoughts, while i >> understand what people are saying about the SID chip being connected in lots >> of ways, but if 10 people made the same bit of hardware then they would >> probably interface it differently. I guess I just wouldnt like people like >> Colin stop making hardware as it got emulated and then people didnt purchase >> the actual hardware. Then myself for one much prefer to use the real >> hardware so it wouldnt stop me anyway. >> >> Always interested to see other peoples views on these things :D >> >>
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
My view is that back in '95 or so, when the emulators first kicked off, not emulating currently-available hardware made sense; however I think that these days anyone who wants to use the real machine will continue to do so whether on not their favourite bit of hardware is emulated. I will not be going back to slow loading times, corrupted disks and endless 5-minute modify-assemble-run-crash-reboot cycles. Those (like me) who just want to have a quick play with stuff they used to enjoy will probably only ever use emulators - I don't really see that the two markets overlap. But hey, I have little enough time to play with my "real world" stuff, let alone the nostalgic kind. I'm probably not part of either group any more :( Geoff 2010/3/2 Adrian Brown > Obviously opened a can of worms there :D It was only my thoughts, while i > understand what people are saying about the SID chip being connected in lots > of ways, but if 10 people made the same bit of hardware then they would > probably interface it differently. I guess I just wouldnt like people like > Colin stop making hardware as it got emulated and then people didnt purchase > the actual hardware. Then myself for one much prefer to use the real > hardware so it wouldnt stop me anyway. > > Always interested to see other peoples views on these things :D > >
RE: New SAM emulator for Windows
Obviously opened a can of worms there :D It was only my thoughts, while i understand what people are saying about the SID chip being connected in lots of ways, but if 10 people made the same bit of hardware then they would probably interface it differently. I guess I just wouldnt like people like Colin stop making hardware as it got emulated and then people didnt purchase the actual hardware. Then myself for one much prefer to use the real hardware so it wouldnt stop me anyway. Always interested to see other peoples views on these things :D -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of sam.co...@centrum.cz Sent: 27 February 2010 01:15 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: New SAM emulator for Windows >If its emulating the SID then id be worried about copyright. The SID >interface is a current piece of hardware I am the owner of the original SID interface (bought directly from Mr Piggot) and have not been interested in developments of the X128, even have not been in touch with the author yet. From a legal point of view, that seems to be a nonsence. Has anyone the copyright for booking the ports? Sam-users were not the first who have connected the SID to the ZX Spectrum (compatible) machines, I remember some developments in east Europe. However, as I know, Mr Piggot and Mr Owen were the first with a full software support (and the most valuable real C64 processor emulation besides). Thinking in the terms of the above mentioned copyright philosophy, sam users, I think, were the very first with an IDE interface and should have been entitled to the rights for many Speccy devices and emulators. :-) I will ask the developer to follow this forum. Hopefully the new X128 will bring some old good Speccy interfaces connected to our real SAMs into the virtual live. Eventually we could use even snapshots - after many years of waiting... J.
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
Sorry Nev, I won't mention it again :-) Ian - Original Message - From: "nev young" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:10 AM Subject: Re: New SAM emulator for Windows Ian Spencer wrote: Actually I produced the very first IDE interface (later became the SD Soft IDE Interface, with one chip missing which caused all sorts of problems) Agh! Please don't remind me! Nev
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
Ian Spencer wrote: Actually I produced the very first IDE interface (later became the SD Soft IDE Interface, with one chip missing which caused all sorts of problems) Agh! Please don't remind me! Nev
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
Actually I produced the very first IDE interface (later became the SD Soft IDE Interface, with one chip missing which caused all sorts of problems) for the SAM and it was based on a Dutch design from the Speccy. So sorry but Speccy got there first. Ian - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:37 AM Subject: RE: New SAM emulator for Windows If its emulating the SID then id be worried about copyright. The SID interface is a current piece of hardware I am the owner of the original SID interface (bought directly from Mr Piggot) and have not been interested in developments of the X128, even have not been in touch with the author yet. From a legal point of view, that seems to be a nonsence. Has anyone the copyright for booking the ports? Sam-users were not the first who have connected the SID to the ZX Spectrum (compatible) machines, I remember some developments in east Europe. However, as I know, Mr Piggot and Mr Owen were the first with a full software support (and the most valuable real C64 processor emulation besides). Thinking in the terms of the above mentioned copyright philosophy, sam users, I think, were the very first with an IDE interface and should have been entitled to the rights for many Speccy devices and emulators. :-) I will ask the developer to follow this forum. Hopefully the new X128 will bring some old good Speccy interfaces connected to our real SAMs into the virtual live. Eventually we could use even snapshots - after many years of waiting... J.
RE: New SAM emulator for Windows
>If its emulating the SID then id be worried about copyright. The SID >interface is a current piece of hardware I am the owner of the original SID interface (bought directly from Mr Piggot) and have not been interested in developments of the X128, even have not been in touch with the author yet. >From a legal point of view, that seems to be a nonsence. Has anyone the >copyright for booking the ports? Sam-users were not the first who have connected the SID to the ZX Spectrum (compatible) machines, I remember some developments in east Europe. However, as I know, Mr Piggot and Mr Owen were the first with a full software support (and the most valuable real C64 processor emulation besides). Thinking in the terms of the above mentioned copyright philosophy, sam users, I think, were the very first with an IDE interface and should have been entitled to the rights for many Speccy devices and emulators. :-) I will ask the developer to follow this forum. Hopefully the new X128 will bring some old good Speccy interfaces connected to our real SAMs into the virtual live. Eventually we could use even snapshots - after many years of waiting... J.
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
Adrian Brown wrote: > If its emulating the SID then id be worried about copyright. The SID > interface is a current piece of hardware and as far as im aware there > has been no rights granted to emulator its ability. Technically, it's just a SID chip connected to the expansion port, so what is there to copyright? If Jarek or Edwin made their own SID board, would emulating theirs be fine? Or would you consider that stealing the design from Colin? I have an agreement with Colin about not emulating Quazar devices. It's not that I feel there's a legal issue in doing so, but out of respect for his wishes. Colin is aware my version of SimCoupe has supported the SID interface for sometime, as it helped me develop and debug my SID Player. Whether that makes it into a released version is still undecided, for the reasons above. Si
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
sam.co...@centrum.cz wrote: > Folks, please look at this: > > http://www.indigobanquet.adsl24.co.uk/x128wip/x128wip.htm Nice! There must be something in the water as I've been checking in outstanding SimCoupe source changes over the last few weeks :-) If James needs test material, I've a list of SAM software that relies on different aspects of the hardware to be correct. Dave and I also have a number of test programs for some other specific areas. Si
RE: New SAM emulator for Windows
If its emulating the SID then id be worried about copyright. The SID interface is a current piece of hardware and as far as im aware there has been no rights granted to emulator its ability. You have to be careful when writing things to make sure that copyright isnt breached. -Original Message- From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of sam.co...@centrum.cz Sent: 26 February 2010 20:01 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: New SAM emulator for Windows Folks, please look at this: http://www.indigobanquet.adsl24.co.uk/x128wip/x128wip.htm even the SID and much more could be expected betatesters with various Windows (non-XP) systems are needed
Re: New SAM emulator for Windows
Am 26.02.2010 20:41, schrieb sam.co...@centrum.cz: Folks, please look at this: http://www.indigobanquet.adsl24.co.uk/x128wip/x128wip.htm even the SID and much more could be expected betatesters with various Windows (non-XP) systems are needed Wow! I did not knew it. Thank you!...
New SAM emulator for Windows
Folks, please look at this: http://www.indigobanquet.adsl24.co.uk/x128wip/x128wip.htm even the SID and much more could be expected betatesters with various Windows (non-XP) systems are needed
