Please consider addition of gnuplot42
Hi, I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) These are some packages here I've done: http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages present in SL4/5. I do have an open review here for EPEL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. Steve -- Steve Traylen
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Steve Traylen wrote: Hi, I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) These are some packages here I've done: http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages present in SL4/5. I do have an open review here for EPEL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. Steve As a data point we replace the sl gnuplot with our own build of 4.2 because a few of our users needed a newer version... Not that I spent much effort on the packaging but the rpms/srpm are available from our sl repo if anyone needs such a thing. -- /\ | "Computers are different from telephones. Computers do not ring." | | -- A. Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks", p. 32 | -| | Jon Peatfield, _Computer_ Officer, DAMTP, University of Cambridge | | Mail: jp...@damtp.cam.ac.uk Web: http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/ | \/
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
any comment? On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: > Hi, > > I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) > > These are some packages here I've done: > > http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ > > which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages > present in SL4/5. > > I do have an open review here for EPEL: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 > > but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. > If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL > than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. > > Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. > > Steve > > > -- > Steve Traylen > -- Steve Traylen
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
Hi Steve, Sorry for not getting back to this. I think it looks ok. I am goign to put it into contrib first. For SL5 I think we can get it into the full release. For SL4, I'd rather not. I'd rather leave it in the contrib area. SL4 at *some* point is going to go into legacy mode, and I'd like to keep the added packages down. Troy Steve Traylen wrote: any comment? On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: Hi, I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) These are some packages here I've done: http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages present in SL4/5. I do have an open review here for EPEL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. Steve -- Steve Traylen -- __ Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group __
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
Hi Troy, Steve, On Mar 25, 2010, at 19:53 , Troy Dawson wrote: > Hi Steve, > Sorry for not getting back to this. > I think it looks ok. I am goign to put it into contrib first. > For SL5 I think we can get it into the full release. it would be good to get this in. I haven't tested the packages yet, but will. The 5.5 (beta) release would be a very good time to include this, IMHO. Cheers, Stephan > For SL4, I'd rather not. I'd rather leave it in the contrib area. > SL4 at *some* point is going to go into legacy mode, and I'd like to keep the > added packages down. > > Troy > > Steve Traylen wrote: >> any comment? >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Steve Traylen >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) >>> >>> These are some packages here I've done: >>> >>> http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ >>> >>> which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages >>> present in SL4/5. >>> >>> I do have an open review here for EPEL: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 >>> >>> but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. >>> If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL >>> than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. >>> >>> Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Traylen >>> > > > -- > __ > Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 > Fermilab ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group > __ -- Stephan Wiesand DESY -DV- Platanenenallee 6 15738 Zeuthen, Germany smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > Hi Steve, > Sorry for not getting back to this. > I think it looks ok. I am goign to put it into contrib first. > For SL5 I think we can get it into the full release. > For SL4, I'd rather not. I'd rather leave it in the contrib area. > SL4 at *some* point is going to go into legacy mode, and I'd like to keep > the added packages down. That would be great, I'm not that bothered about 4 just did it since I could basically. > > Troy > > Steve Traylen wrote: >> >> any comment? >> >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Steve Traylen >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) >>> >>> These are some packages here I've done: >>> >>> http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ >>> >>> which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages >>> present in SL4/5. >>> >>> I do have an open review here for EPEL: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 >>> >>> but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. >>> If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL >>> than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. >>> >>> Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Traylen >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > __ > Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 > Fermilab ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group > __ > -- Steve Traylen
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
OK, first problem. This requires wxGTK, which is not in Scientific Linux. Is that an important part? Can it be removed as a dependancy? Do we want to also put that into SL? Troy Troy J Dawson wrote: Hi Steve, Sorry for not getting back to this. I think it looks ok. I am goign to put it into contrib first. For SL5 I think we can get it into the full release. For SL4, I'd rather not. I'd rather leave it in the contrib area. SL4 at *some* point is going to go into legacy mode, and I'd like to keep the added packages down. Troy Steve Traylen wrote: any comment? On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: Hi, I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) These are some packages here I've done: http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages present in SL4/5. I do have an open review here for EPEL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. Steve -- Steve Traylen -- __ Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 Fermilab ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group __
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > OK, first problem. > This requires wxGTK, which is not in Scientific Linux. > Is that an important part? Can it be removed as a dependancy? > Do we want to also put that into SL? Doh, I never thought to check that it actually built on SL without EPEL. Will get back to you. > > Troy > > Troy J Dawson wrote: >> >> Hi Steve, >> Sorry for not getting back to this. >> I think it looks ok. I am goign to put it into contrib first. >> For SL5 I think we can get it into the full release. >> For SL4, I'd rather not. I'd rather leave it in the contrib area. >> SL4 at *some* point is going to go into legacy mode, and I'd like to keep >> the added packages down. >> >> Troy >> >> Steve Traylen wrote: >>> >>> any comment? >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Steve Traylen >>> wrote: Hi, I've users who wish to have gnuplot42 on SL5 (and4) These are some packages here I've done: http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/ which are designed to not interfere with the existing gnuplot packages present in SL4/5. I do have an open review here for EPEL: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 but due to lack of interest I guess it is not progressing. If it does progress I'll bump to higher release version in EPEL than in SL and advise SL of its redundancy in SL. Please consider gnuplot42 inclusion into SL. Steve -- Steve Traylen >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > __ > Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov (630)840-6468 > Fermilab ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group > __ > -- Steve Traylen
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On 3/25/2010 14:43, Steve Traylen wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: OK, first problem. This requires wxGTK, which is not in Scientific Linux. Is that an important part? Can it be removed as a dependancy? Do we want to also put that into SL? Doh, I never thought to check that it actually built on SL without EPEL. Will get back to you. Adding your own copy of wxGTK instead of using EPEL's will create a nightmare for anyone who wants to use both your gnuplot42 package and anything in EPEL that depends on wxGTK. If it doesn't cause any significant problems, please consider just disabling the bits of gnuplot that rely on wxGTK so the dependency goes away. Or people could simply bite the bullet and use two packages from EPEL if gnuplot42 is that important to them. Less duplication between repositories means a reduced chance of dependency solving problems for the whole distribution. -- Garrett Holmstrom University of Minnesota School of Physics and Astronomy Systems Staff
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 3/25/2010 14:43, Steve Traylen wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: >>> >>> OK, first problem. >>> This requires wxGTK, which is not in Scientific Linux. >>> Is that an important part? Can it be removed as a dependancy? >>> Do we want to also put that into SL? >> >> Doh, I never thought to check that it actually built on SL without EPEL. >> Will get back to you. > > Adding your own copy of wxGTK instead of using EPEL's will create a > nightmare for anyone who wants to use both your gnuplot42 package and > anything in EPEL that depends on wxGTK. If it doesn't cause any significant > problems, please consider just disabling the bits of gnuplot that rely on > wxGTK so the dependency goes away. yes I completely agree. > Or people could simply bite the bullet and use two packages from EPEL if > gnuplot42 is that important to them. Less duplication between repositories > means a reduced chance of dependency solving problems for the whole > distribution. http://cern.ch/straylen/rpms/gnuplot42/sl/ are new SL5 packages which don't need EPEL. (*) Again if the EPEL review ever gets processed I will release and maintain that at a higher release. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 Steve. (*) I think they are okay on SL only but don't have a clean enough system to hand to be sure. Some sl-mock-config packages might make sense. > > -- > Garrett Holmstrom > University of Minnesota School of Physics and Astronomy > Systems Staff > -- Steve Traylen
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On 3/26/2010 4:54, Steve Traylen wrote: Again if the EPEL review ever gets processed I will release and maintain that at a higher release. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 I recommend taking a look at the IUS Community Project site [1], whose entire purpose is to provide newer, side-by-side installable versions of commonly-used programs. You might have more success over there. [1] http://iuscommunity.org/ -- Garrett Holmstrom University of Minnesota School of Physics and Astronomy Systems Staff
Re: Please consider addition of gnuplot42
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 3/26/2010 4:54, Steve Traylen wrote: >> >> Again if the EPEL review ever gets processed I will release and maintain >> that >> at a higher release. >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570318 > > I recommend taking a look at the IUS Community Project site [1], whose > entire purpose is to provide newer, side-by-side installable versions of > commonly-used programs. You might have more success over there. > > [1] http://iuscommunity.org/ IUS currently do two things both side-by-side packages and full blown replacement upgrades. Its possible the first of these items will vanish from IUS as soon as one particular thing is added to EPEL which is being co-added by the the guy from IUS. > > -- > Garrett Holmstrom > University of Minnesota School of Physics and Astronomy > Systems Staff > -- Steve Traylen