RE: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

[Martin]

LMNAO!!!

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Daryle
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:59 PM
To: SciFi Noir
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

Can¹t we all just...use our mobile phones and computers? I mean, we carry
this stuff around with us as it is. Laptops, Treo, Blackberry, iPhone...why
not just use all this stuff to read books? People already know how to use
RSS, they listen to or watch podcasts all the time. Why not just go to a
site, click, get your book, and read on demand?

On 12/13/07 10:23 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com>
aladvantage.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I think the only way to get it to work is if they practically gave them
> away. $400 is too high a number to help buy resistance. The is an
> early adopter - product for the gadget addicted only
> 
> Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > I was one of the first folks to leap into the notion of online book
>> > reading. I ahve the Gutenberg site bookmarked, and I used to frequent
>> > many online places featuring fiction. I stopped because I don't have
>> > the time to downloasd stuff anymore. I just can't see this working,
>> > despite its portability.
>> >
>> > ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com> com
<mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com>
>> <mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> > http://www.pcworld.
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html>
com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html
>> > <http://www.pcworld.
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html>
com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html>
>> >
>> > Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says
>> >
>> > French designer Philippe Starck has proclaimed Amazon.com's Kindle e-
>> > book reader "almost modern" but "a bit sad."
>> >
>> > James Niccolai, IDG News Service
>> >
>> > Tuesday, December 11, 2007 09:15 AM PST
>> >
>> > Philippe Starck, the French designer who champions simplicity over
>> > form, has proclaimed Amazon's Kindle e-book reader "almost modern"
>> > but "a bit sad."
>> >
>> > Starck was a speaker at the Le Web 3 social-networking conference
>> > outside Paris on Tuesday. After an energetic, rambling speech about
>> > modern design, he was handed a Kindle by the technology blogger
>> > Robert Scoble and asked what he thought of it.
>> >
>> > "In this type of product, the best design is the least design
>> > possible," said Starck. That means it should be small, simple and
>> > strong, and not distract from the content, which should be the most
>> > interesting part.
>> >
>> > The Kindle almost achieves that, "but the designer wasn't quite
>> > humble enough to completely disappear, so he made a little slope
>> > here, a diagonal there," Starck said. "It's a little sad because the
>> > concept is modern, but the design is less modern, because the
>> > designer doesn't want to disappear."
>> >
>> > "No no," he concluded, "it is almost modern."
>> >
>> > The Kindle launched last month for US$399 and allows people to
>> > download books and newspapers over a wireless network. It is a fairly
>> > plain device with a large screen, a keyboard and gently sloping sides
>> > designed to make it comfortable to hold.
>> >
>> > "Our top design objective was for Kindle to disappear in your hands --
>> > to get out of the way -- so you can enjoy your reading," CEO Jeff
>> > Bezos said last month.
>> >
>> > Amazon should consider it got off lightly from the critique. Earlier
>> > in his speech Starck said most products today are designed only for
>> > profit and without consideration for those who use them. They are "10
>> > percent useful and 10 percent [expletive]," he said.
>> >
>> > His speech was billed as "

RE: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

[Reece Jennings]

Read?  Reid? Reed?  Do people know/no how to/two/too any moor/more?
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Daryle
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:59 PM
To: SciFi Noir
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says




Can¹t we all just...use our mobile phones and computers? I mean, we carry
this stuff around with us as it is. Laptops, Treo, Blackberry, iPhone...why
not just use all this stuff to read books? People already know how to use
RSS, they listen to or watch podcasts all the time. Why not just go to a
site, click, get your book, and read on demand?

On 12/13/07 10:23 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com>
aladvantage.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I think the only way to get it to work is if they practically gave them
> away. $400 is too high a number to help buy resistance. The is an
> early adopter - product for the gadget addicted only
> 
> Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > I was one of the first folks to leap into the notion of online book
>> > reading. I ahve the Gutenberg site bookmarked, and I used to frequent
>> > many online places featuring fiction. I stopped because I don't have
>> > the time to downloasd stuff anymore. I just can't see this working,
>> > despite its portability.
>> >
>> > ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com> com
<mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com>
>> <mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> > http://www.pcworld.
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html>
com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html
>> > <http://www.pcworld.
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html>
com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html>
>> >
>> > Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says
>> >
>> > French designer Philippe Starck has proclaimed Amazon.com's Kindle e-
>> > book reader "almost modern" but "a bit sad."
>> >
>> > James Niccolai, IDG News Service
>> >
>> > Tuesday, December 11, 2007 09:15 AM PST
>> >
>> > Philippe Starck, the French designer who champions simplicity over
>> > form, has proclaimed Amazon's Kindle e-book reader "almost modern"
>> > but "a bit sad."
>> >
>> > Starck was a speaker at the Le Web 3 social-networking conference
>> > outside Paris on Tuesday. After an energetic, rambling speech about
>> > modern design, he was handed a Kindle by the technology blogger
>> > Robert Scoble and asked what he thought of it.
>> >
>> > "In this type of product, the best design is the least design
>> > possible," said Starck. That means it should be small, simple and
>> > strong, and not distract from the content, which should be the most
>> > interesting part.
>> >
>> > The Kindle almost achieves that, "but the designer wasn't quite
>> > humble enough to completely disappear, so he made a little slope
>> > here, a diagonal there," Starck said. "It's a little sad because the
>> > concept is modern, but the design is less modern, because the
>> > designer doesn't want to disappear."
>> >
>> > "No no," he concluded, "it is almost modern."
>> >
>> > The Kindle launched last month for US$399 and allows people to
>> > download books and newspapers over a wireless network. It is a fairly
>> > plain device with a large screen, a keyboard and gently sloping sides
>> > designed to make it comfortable to hold.
>> >
>> > "Our top design objective was for Kindle to disappear in your hands --
>> > to get out of the way -- so you can enjoy your reading," CEO Jeff
>> > Bezos said last month.
>> >
>> > Amazon should consider it got off lightly from the critique. Earlier
>> > in his speech Starck said most products today are designed only for
>> > profit and without consideration for those who use them. They are "10
>> > percent useful and 10 percent [expletive]," he said.
>> >
>> > His speech was billed as "What is social about design" and bore
>> > little rel

RE: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

[James Landrith]

I’ve been reading books on various Palm OS devices for years.

 

At any given point, I’ve got five or more books in various stages of  being
read on my Treo.  Waiting in line at checkout?  Whip out the Treo and start
reading.  Sitting on the Metro?  Whip out the Treo…

 

Once I’ve read them, they get deleted from the PDA and I keep a copy in my
electronic library on my shared drive at home.  

 

Also, since I purchase them through eReader - 9 times out of 10, I can
re-download any prior purchase without cost whenever the mood strikes.

 

Of course, I also have some in PDF version, html, plain text, etc.

 

I’m guessing I’m not Kindle’s target market.  I look for formats that
conform to my existing devices – not additional gadgetry.  I was excited
beyond belief when my PDA and phone became one – not looking to backslide
here.

 

 

From: Daryle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:59 PM
To: SciFi Noir
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

 


Can¹t we all just...use our mobile phones and computers? I mean, we carry
this stuff around with us as it is. Laptops, Treo, Blackberry, iPhone...why
not just use all this stuff to read books? People already know how to use
RSS, they listen to or watch podcasts all the time. Why not just go to a
site, click, get your book, and read on demand?




 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

[Daryle]

Can¹t we all just...use our mobile phones and computers? I mean, we carry
this stuff around with us as it is. Laptops,  Treo, Blackberry, iPhone...why
not just use all this stuff to read books? People already know how to  use
RSS, they listen to  or watch podcasts all the time. Why not just go to a
site, click, get your book,  and read on demand?


On 12/13/07 10:23 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> I think the only way to get it to work is if they practically gave them
> away.  $400 is too high a number to help buy resistance.  The is an
> early adopter - product for the gadget addicted only
> 
> Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > I was one of the first folks to leap into the notion of online book
>> > reading. I ahve the Gutenberg site bookmarked, and I used to frequent
>> > many online places featuring fiction. I stopped because I don't have
>> > the time to downloasd stuff anymore. I just can't see this working,
>> > despite its portability.
>> >
>> > ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> > wrote:
>> > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html
>> > 
>> >
>> > Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says
>> >
>> > French designer Philippe Starck has proclaimed Amazon.com's Kindle e-
>> > book reader "almost modern" but "a bit sad."
>> >
>> > James Niccolai, IDG News Service
>> >
>> > Tuesday, December 11, 2007 09:15 AM PST
>> >
>> > Philippe Starck, the French designer who champions simplicity over
>> > form, has proclaimed Amazon's Kindle e-book reader "almost modern"
>> > but "a bit sad."
>> >
>> > Starck was a speaker at the Le Web 3 social-networking conference
>> > outside Paris on Tuesday. After an energetic, rambling speech about
>> > modern design, he was handed a Kindle by the technology blogger
>> > Robert Scoble and asked what he thought of it.
>> >
>> > "In this type of product, the best design is the least design
>> > possible," said Starck. That means it should be small, simple and
>> > strong, and not distract from the content, which should be the most
>> > interesting part.
>> >
>> > The Kindle almost achieves that, "but the designer wasn't quite
>> > humble enough to completely disappear, so he made a little slope
>> > here, a diagonal there," Starck said. "It's a little sad because the
>> > concept is modern, but the design is less modern, because the
>> > designer doesn't want to disappear."
>> >
>> > "No no," he concluded, "it is almost modern."
>> >
>> > The Kindle launched last month for US$399 and allows people to
>> > download books and newspapers over a wireless network. It is a fairly
>> > plain device with a large screen, a keyboard and gently sloping sides
>> > designed to make it comfortable to hold.
>> >
>> > "Our top design objective was for Kindle to disappear in your hands --
>> > to get out of the way -- so you can enjoy your reading," CEO Jeff
>> > Bezos said last month.
>> >
>> > Amazon should consider it got off lightly from the critique. Earlier
>> > in his speech Starck said most products today are designed only for
>> > profit and without consideration for those who use them. They are "10
>> > percent useful and 10 percent [expletive]," he said.
>> >
>> > His speech was billed as "What is social about design" and bore
>> > little relation to high technology, although it was probably the most
>> > entertaining speech of the day and got the most laughs, touching on
>> > furniture designed for sex, Viagra, and the evolution of design over
>> > 4 billion years.
>> >
>> > "I try to make furniture that makes my friends have better sex," he
>> > said, adding that he plans to get married next Saturday.
>> >
>> > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will
>> > get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man
>> > Without A Country"
>> >
>> > -
>> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try
>> > it now.
>> >
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>> >
>> >  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I think the only way to get it to work is if they practically gave them 
away.  $400 is too high a number to help buy resistance.  The is an 
early adopter - product for the gadget addicted only

Martin wrote:
>
> I was one of the first folks to leap into the notion of online book 
> reading. I ahve the Gutenberg site bookmarked, and I used to frequent 
> many online places featuring fiction. I stopped because I don't have 
> the time to downloasd stuff anymore. I just can't see this working, 
> despite its portability.
>
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html 
> 
>
> Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says
>
> French designer Philippe Starck has proclaimed Amazon.com's Kindle e-
> book reader "almost modern" but "a bit sad."
>
> James Niccolai, IDG News Service
>
> Tuesday, December 11, 2007 09:15 AM PST
>
> Philippe Starck, the French designer who champions simplicity over
> form, has proclaimed Amazon's Kindle e-book reader "almost modern"
> but "a bit sad."
>
> Starck was a speaker at the Le Web 3 social-networking conference
> outside Paris on Tuesday. After an energetic, rambling speech about
> modern design, he was handed a Kindle by the technology blogger
> Robert Scoble and asked what he thought of it.
>
> "In this type of product, the best design is the least design
> possible," said Starck. That means it should be small, simple and
> strong, and not distract from the content, which should be the most
> interesting part.
>
> The Kindle almost achieves that, "but the designer wasn't quite
> humble enough to completely disappear, so he made a little slope
> here, a diagonal there," Starck said. "It's a little sad because the
> concept is modern, but the design is less modern, because the
> designer doesn't want to disappear."
>
> "No no," he concluded, "it is almost modern."
>
> The Kindle launched last month for US$399 and allows people to
> download books and newspapers over a wireless network. It is a fairly
> plain device with a large screen, a keyboard and gently sloping sides
> designed to make it comfortable to hold.
>
> "Our top design objective was for Kindle to disappear in your hands --
> to get out of the way -- so you can enjoy your reading," CEO Jeff
> Bezos said last month.
>
> Amazon should consider it got off lightly from the critique. Earlier
> in his speech Starck said most products today are designed only for
> profit and without consideration for those who use them. They are "10
> percent useful and 10 percent [expletive]," he said.
>
> His speech was billed as "What is social about design" and bore
> little relation to high technology, although it was probably the most
> entertaining speech of the day and got the most laughs, touching on
> furniture designed for sex, Viagra, and the evolution of design over
> 4 billion years.
>
> "I try to make furniture that makes my friends have better sex," he
> said, adding that he plans to get married next Saturday.
>
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will 
> get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man 
> Without A Country"
>
> -
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try 
> it now.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

[Martin]

I was one of the first folks to leap into the notion of online book reading. I 
ahve the Gutenberg site bookmarked, and I used to frequent many online places 
featuring fiction. I stopped because I don't have the time to downloasd stuff 
anymore. I just can't see this working, despite its portability.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140474-c,electronics/article.html

Amazon Kindle 'a Bit Sad,' Designer Says

French designer Philippe Starck has proclaimed Amazon.com's Kindle e-
book reader "almost modern" but "a bit sad."

James Niccolai, IDG News Service

Tuesday, December 11, 2007 09:15 AM PST

Philippe Starck, the French designer who champions simplicity over 
form, has proclaimed Amazon's Kindle e-book reader "almost modern" 
but "a bit sad."

Starck was a speaker at the Le Web 3 social-networking conference 
outside Paris on Tuesday. After an energetic, rambling speech about 
modern design, he was handed a Kindle by the technology blogger 
Robert Scoble and asked what he thought of it.

"In this type of product, the best design is the least design 
possible," said Starck. That means it should be small, simple and 
strong, and not distract from the content, which should be the most 
interesting part.

The Kindle almost achieves that, "but the designer wasn't quite 
humble enough to completely disappear, so he made a little slope 
here, a diagonal there," Starck said. "It's a little sad because the 
concept is modern, but the design is less modern, because the 
designer doesn't want to disappear."

"No no," he concluded, "it is almost modern."

The Kindle launched last month for US$399 and allows people to 
download books and newspapers over a wireless network. It is a fairly 
plain device with a large screen, a keyboard and gently sloping sides 
designed to make it comfortable to hold.

"Our top design objective was for Kindle to disappear in your hands --
to get out of the way -- so you can enjoy your reading," CEO Jeff 
Bezos said last month.

Amazon should consider it got off lightly from the critique. Earlier 
in his speech Starck said most products today are designed only for 
profit and without consideration for those who use them. They are "10 
percent useful and 10 percent [expletive]," he said.

His speech was billed as "What is social about design" and bore 
little relation to high technology, although it was probably the most 
entertaining speech of the day and got the most laughs, touching on 
furniture designed for sex, Viagra, and the evolution of design over 
4 billion years.

"I try to make furniture that makes my friends have better sex," he 
said, adding that he plans to get married next Saturday.



 


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organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A 
Country"
   
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