Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:30:06 -0500 "Matt Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >and if they decided tomorrow to >never play another pre-HITFTBSO again, i'd be ok with it. i sure would not be okay with it. i've never seen them. now, when they're finally doing an european tour, they don't come to sweden. so i guess i'll never see them. the worst part is when i was in seattle a couple of years ago they played there, three days after i left /Rik -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su
Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
i guess i just don't see things the way you guys do... personally, as much as i like Diary and LP2, i'm so glad that the band has gotten back together and moved in new directions. i think that if SDRE hadn't gotten back together, and then tried to do other things, that everything they did would be measured against SDRE, and that wouldn't be fair. as it is now, the 'new' band is measured against the 'old' band, and that's a fair comparision. like it or not, that's your thing. i like the new albums [HITFTBSO & Tide], becuase i think that if they'd made two more albums that sounded just like Diary or LP2, i'd be so bored of them i'd puke. i'm glad that they're pushing the Sunny Day envelope. i feel lucky that the band is back together, or i would have never had the chance to meet them, or see them live. and if they decided tomorrow to never play another pre-HITFTBSO again, i'd be ok with it. for instance, i've seen them play Seven now, they don't ever have to play it again [since apparently one of them doesn't like to]. thanks for your time. -- M Land Man only needs three things in life. WD-40 to make things go, Duct tape to make them stop, ...and a big hammer for those delicate adjustments ------ >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll... >Date: Tue, Dec 5, 2000, 4:52 PM > > I can't agree more. but in addition, I also wish they would never have > rejoined at all > because I don't like what they have done since. Don't get me wrong, their > music is now > is much better than most music available today, but I believe the pink > album was the > best album ever made. Why would I listen to HIFTBSO or The Rising Tide if i could > listen to the pink album or diary? I hope they break up soon. Maybe Jeremy > will then do > more solo stuff (beyond his required 2) or he will start or join another band or > something becuase I just don't like the direction Dan is taking them in > now. Dan is a > very nice guy, but I don't like him as a musician or a lyricist. I have a > feeling that > in about 4 hours my mailbox will be more full than it has ever been. bye. > > Charlie Wagner wrote: > >> I've actually been trying to think of this from Nate's perspective. Maybe in >> his mind, the band was done, over with, finished, finito, etc. WHy try to >> recapture the youthful energy and excitement they had, just let the band be, >> keep it how it was, let their two albums be a nice representation of how to >> make melodic, energetic, but intelligent music, and provide a blueprint for >> future bands. I still think it was a dumb idea for the band to keep the >> name, because with a band like that, where the members have a certain >> chemistry together and are obviously doing something right, it'll never be >> the same. Plus, we wouldn't have to hear Jeremy and Dan bitch about playing >> the old songs. >> >> from Charlie Wagner | AIM=themadlord >> np: The Dillinger Escape Plan, "Calculating Infinity" >> zine=http://scientificreviews.tripod.com/ >> >> > _ > >> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >
Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
I can't agree more. but in addition, I also wish they would never have rejoined at all because I don't like what they have done since. Don't get me wrong, their music is now is much better than most music available today, but I believe the pink album was the best album ever made. Why would I listen to HIFTBSO or The Rising Tide if i could listen to the pink album or diary? I hope they break up soon. Maybe Jeremy will then do more solo stuff (beyond his required 2) or he will start or join another band or something becuase I just don't like the direction Dan is taking them in now. Dan is a very nice guy, but I don't like him as a musician or a lyricist. I have a feeling that in about 4 hours my mailbox will be more full than it has ever been. bye. Charlie Wagner wrote: > I've actually been trying to think of this from Nate's perspective. Maybe in > his mind, the band was done, over with, finished, finito, etc. WHy try to > recapture the youthful energy and excitement they had, just let the band be, > keep it how it was, let their two albums be a nice representation of how to > make melodic, energetic, but intelligent music, and provide a blueprint for > future bands. I still think it was a dumb idea for the band to keep the > name, because with a band like that, where the members have a certain > chemistry together and are obviously doing something right, it'll never be > the same. Plus, we wouldn't have to hear Jeremy and Dan bitch about playing > the old songs. > > from Charlie Wagner | AIM=themadlord > np: The Dillinger Escape Plan, "Calculating Infinity" > zine=http://scientificreviews.tripod.com/ > > _ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
I agree with Charlie on the fact that the band should have just walked after the first two albums and then change their name after reforming (like Slowdive did after they broke up. The remaining members formed Mojave 3). But as far as Nate not wanting to be with a band that was done, finished, finito - then why the hell is he still in the Foo Fighters?? If Nate would have rejoined, we still may have a Sunny Day that we enjoy as much as we did when we first heard them. But as soon as you remove an important ingredient - you no longer have the same chemistry. I don't know how many of you listen to Primus, but if you do - look what happened after Herb quit. You can't remove the pink hearts from the yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers and still have Lucky Charms. Later, Mike Z Charlie Wagner wrote: > I've actually been trying to think of this from Nate's perspective. Maybe in > his mind, the band was done, over with, finished, finito, etc. WHy try to > recapture the youthful energy and excitement they had, just let the band be, > keep it how it was, let their two albums be a nice representation of how to > make melodic, energetic, but intelligent music, and provide a blueprint for > future bands. I still think it was a dumb idea for the band to keep the > name, because with a band like that, where the members have a certain > chemistry together and are obviously doing something right, it'll never be > the same. Plus, we wouldn't have to hear Jeremy and Dan bitch about playing > the old songs. > > from Charlie Wagner | AIM=themadlord > np: The Dillinger Escape Plan, "Calculating Infinity" > zine=http://scientificreviews.tripod.com/ > > _ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
I've actually been trying to think of this from Nate's perspective. Maybe in his mind, the band was done, over with, finished, finito, etc. WHy try to recapture the youthful energy and excitement they had, just let the band be, keep it how it was, let their two albums be a nice representation of how to make melodic, energetic, but intelligent music, and provide a blueprint for future bands. I still think it was a dumb idea for the band to keep the name, because with a band like that, where the members have a certain chemistry together and are obviously doing something right, it'll never be the same. Plus, we wouldn't have to hear Jeremy and Dan bitch about playing the old songs. from Charlie Wagner | AIM=themadlord np: The Dillinger Escape Plan, "Calculating Infinity" zine=http://scientificreviews.tripod.com/ _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
IMHO, i don't think that they'd be so quick to let Nate back in the band. i think that the animosity with Nate resides most in Will, and that's partly misdirected dislike for Dave Grohl. overhearing Will talk about his Foo experience outside their show at the Norva Theatre, Norfolk, VA this past October, i heard him raise his voice in disapproval of Mr. Grohl. so, i think Will [along with the rest of the band] is miffed that he didn't return, but they've moved on. let's remember that the whole "we're getting the band back together" thing was 3-4 years ago, so i'm sure that being adults they've all grown up a bit. at least that's what i got from a lengthy conversation with Jeremy, and listening to Will. my guess for your poll, it would be either #3 or #4, and most likely in that order. i just can't see they guys being angry at Nate. and yes, i know i replied to the list with this. thought you all might like to read it. thank you for your time. -- M Land Man only needs three things in life. WD-40 to make things go, Duct tape to make them stop, ...and a big hammer for those delicate adjustments
Re: [sdre-l]: Jeremy interview, and (oh no) a poll...
It seemed to me after reading the interview, that the animosity (if any still exists) toward Nate lies elsewhere in the band. Does anyone know for sure? Here's the poll: I've been on the list for a year now, and I haven't seen it yet, so if it was done prior to my arrival, I'm sorry. Nate wants back into Sunny Day. Do they say: 1. Yes! We'd love to have you back. 2. Yes, but only if he had quit the Foos before he asked, showing he had given everything up just to be back with SDRE. 3. Well, we're sorry nate, but we enjoy being a three piece now. 4. No friggin' way, man. You had your chance. I realize these are black and white choices, and in reality something of this sort would be quite different from my situations, but hey, none of you want to read 400 possibilities. You're probably nauseous from reading these four, as if this horse hasn't been beaten enough already. But I just figured I'd ask. The poll will close next sunday. Thanks for your time, Jason
