Re: Solar distilling
Nice plans, Bob. Thank you very much. Mike D. > On Wed, 27 May 1998 12:20:06 -0500, Tai-Pan wrote: > > > Have plans for a (1)solar distillar and a (2)solar steam generator > > >which can power a (3)pressure cooker. > > > Plans for all three are about 20 pages. These have been used about 15 > > >years now by a lot of people. > > > > > If you want a copy of them send a couple of dollar bills (cash) in an > > >envelope with your snail mail address.It would be nice to include your > > >e-mail address. Be sure I can read the return address,printing helps. I > > >will copy them and provide a mailer and the postage. This makes it easy > > >for you and me. If you are overseas send three dollar bills and I will > > >send it airmail. > > > Bless you all Bob Lee > > > 3034 Caroline Street > > > Needville, Texas 77641 > > > USA [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and herb teas
On Sat, 23 May 1998, Reid Smith wrote: (snip) > > There are several formulas which including CS might improve the > >effects, plus you should be able to store the teas for a long time > >with CS as bacteria would not grow in it! In theory that sounds great, but it's only half true. Thinking I would preserve some Kombucha tea (?sp), I added silver to the tea. This prevented the growth of fungi-bacteria for a while, but the organisms made a comeback. (Kombucha is a tea which is reputed to have healing properties when fungi-bacteria are gown in a tea-sugar mixture. Russians in high-radiation areas apparently had lower incidences of cancer attributable to this tea. I once bought some, but did not find much therapeutic value when compared to designer foods on the market. It's easier to take nice sanitary capsulated antioxidants to help prevent cancer. Besides, it wasn't too appetizing to see the slimy, gooey, white mass of fungi-bacteria growing above the tea water.) Here's some interesting information--There are now super strains of bacteria growing in high radiation areas--these bacteria produce high levels of antioxidants to survive. :) Joyce Inouye -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Sears distiller ,Answers for you
Joyce Inouye wrote: > > Thanks a lot for a speedy reply. I'd like to get one to share with my > friend Charlotte who is a sickly person. The only question you didn't > answer is, "How does it TASTE?" Or did I miss it? > > Regards, > :) Joyce Inouye > > > > On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Tai-Pan wrote: > > > Dean Woodward wrote: > > > > > > Hello Bob and All: I really appreciate the information on the Sears > > > Distiller. Bought one yesterday, and starting with 359 ppm total dissolved > > > solids (based on my new Hanna WP-1)(College Station water is notoriously > > > high in nitrates), my first batch tested 001 ppm. Great! And it made > > > wonderful coffee this morning. > > > > > > I did a little rough calculation of costs of producing the distilled > > > water. > > > This is rough, and if I screw it up don't flame me. The unit consumes just > > > under 600 watts of electricity. So if you operated it 24 hours per day you > > > would use 0.6 kilowatts X 24 hours = 14.4 kilowatt-hours (kWh). I think > > > our > > > electricity costs about $.07 per kWh (didn't take time to look up my last > > > electric bill - but just use your own rate), so this is just about $1 per > > > day. The unit is supposed to produce 4 gallons per day, so the cost per > > > gallon is about 25 cents per gallon. Since I pay about $.79 for high (?) > > > quality commercial distilled water, it seems to me this is a very > > > cost-effective solution to my distilled water needs. > > > > > > Dean > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 2:49 AM > > > To: Joseph > > > Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Subject:Re: Sears distiller > > > > > > Joseph wrote: > > > > > > Does Sears give a cost of making one gallon of distilled water? That > > > does > > > have a filter in it to, right? You wouldn't happen to know price? How > > > much > > > water does it take to make a gallon of distilled water? > > > Thanks > > > Joe > > > > > > -- > > > From: Tai-Pan > > > To: dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net > > > Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Subject: Re: Sears distiller > > > Date: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 2:19 PM > > > > > > Douglas McMurtrie wrote: > > > > > > Tai-Pan wrote: > > > > > > Hi list, > > > Passing on what I`ve learned from the new distiller purchased > > > yesterday. > > > Went out and bought the* Kenmore Countertop Water Purifier*,thats > > > what > > > they call it. Have made several gallons of distilled water now and > > > this > > > is the result. > > >All batches were started as tap water (city) with 231ppm readings > > > on > > > the TDS-1. After distilling readings were 001ppm on the TDS-1. This > > > product works very well. Left the cap off of a gallon of new > > > distilled > > > water over night and it read 003ppm in the water at the top. Shook > > > the > > > bottle up a little bit and read it again, this time it read 001ppm . > > > Seems the top layer of water in contact with the air became slightly > > > carbonized with contact of the CO2 in the air. Lesson : Keep your > > > water > > > sealed when not in use. > > >Now I`m not at the mercy of store bought distilled water. > > >The instruction manual said it takes six hours to make one gallon , > > > the one I have does it in 5 1/2 hours . > > > > > >Bless You Bob Lee > > > -- > > > oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast > > >l...@fbtc.net > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Tai-Pan, > > > > > > If you don't mind me asking, what was the price of the distillation > > > unit? > > > > > > Douglas, > > >It was priced at $129 plus tax. > > > Bob > > > -- > > > > > > Joseph, > > > Answers to questions: > > > Sears did not give cost of making water, the electric power consumption > > > is 585 watts,at 120 volts AC. > > > It has an activated carbon filter at the outlet,its replacable every > > > few months for $1.50. > > > Price here locally was $129 plus tax. > > > I filled it with one gallon of water and got one gallon of water out of > > > it. After distilling a batch (one gallon) there was a wet sludge in the > > > bottom of the tank. In my area it is mostly calcium, sulfer and some > > > iron oxide. The wetness was mostly D2O (heavy water). Washed it all out > > > after each batch. > > > The distiller is certified by the California Department of Health. > > > Amazingly it is approved by the IOWA State Department of Health. I say > > > this because not a single camping or trail water purifier is approved > > > by IOWA State. All the water purifiers in the Campmore catalog may NOT > > > be sold in the State of IOWA. Iowa State has really tough standards. > > > Good for them. The pamphlet with the machine lists 26 contaminants in > > > removes as per EPA guide lines. > > > Hope this answers your questions OK. > > > Bless you Bob Lee > > > > > > Ozzing on the muggy shore of the gulf coa
Re: Solar distilling
George Martin wrote: > > Mr Lee, > Would it be acceptable for me to scan these plans > and post them on my web site? > > Regards, > George Martin > Soon to be Ex Navy (21+ yrs) and soon to return to my > native Texas...forever! > > > On Wed, 27 May 1998 12:20:06 -0500, Tai-Pan wrote: > > >Hi list, > > There is much to do about solar distilling and very little info being > >given out for the listers to take action on. So here is my small effort > >at taking action. > > Have plans for a (1)solar distillar and a (2)solar steam generator > >which can power a (3)pressure cooker. Steam generator will operate at > >temps as high as 250F on a nice January day. All materials are ordinary > >things available at local lumber yard and hardware store ( I use Western > >Auto and Ace Hardware a lot), nothing exotic. > > Plans for all three are about 20 pages. These have been used about 15 > >years now by a lot of people. > > > If you want a copy of them send a couple of dollar bills (cash) in an > >envelope with your snail mail address.It would be nice to include your > >e-mail address. Be sure I can read the return address,printing helps. I > >will copy them and provide a mailer and the postage. This makes it easy > >for you and me. If you are overseas send three dollar bills and I will > >send it airmail. > > Bless you all Bob Lee > > 3034 Caroline Street > > Needville, Texas 77641 > > USA > > Hi George, You can do what ever you want with them. These plans are at least 18 years old and have been time tested. I think they were originally patent applied for,don`t know if they ever were patented. In any case they would have run out long ago. Bless You Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Sears distiller ,Answers for you
Dean Woodward wrote: > > Hello Bob and All: I really appreciate the information on the Sears > Distiller. Bought one yesterday, and starting with 359 ppm total dissolved > solids (based on my new Hanna WP-1)(College Station water is notoriously > high in nitrates), my first batch tested 001 ppm. Great! And it made > wonderful coffee this morning. > > I did a little rough calculation of costs of producing the distilled water. > This is rough, and if I screw it up don't flame me. The unit consumes just > under 600 watts of electricity. So if you operated it 24 hours per day you > would use 0.6 kilowatts X 24 hours = 14.4 kilowatt-hours (kWh). I think our > electricity costs about $.07 per kWh (didn't take time to look up my last > electric bill - but just use your own rate), so this is just about $1 per > day. The unit is supposed to produce 4 gallons per day, so the cost per > gallon is about 25 cents per gallon. Since I pay about $.79 for high (?) > quality commercial distilled water, it seems to me this is a very > cost-effective solution to my distilled water needs. > > Dean > > -Original Message- > From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 2:49 AM > To: Joseph > Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: Sears distiller > > Joseph wrote: > > Does Sears give a cost of making one gallon of distilled water? That > does > have a filter in it to, right? You wouldn't happen to know price? How > much > water does it take to make a gallon of distilled water? > Thanks > Joe > > -- > From: Tai-Pan > To: dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net > Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Sears distiller > Date: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 2:19 PM > > Douglas McMurtrie wrote: > > Tai-Pan wrote: > > Hi list, > Passing on what I`ve learned from the new distiller purchased > yesterday. > Went out and bought the* Kenmore Countertop Water Purifier*,thats > what > they call it. Have made several gallons of distilled water now and > this > is the result. >All batches were started as tap water (city) with 231ppm readings > on > the TDS-1. After distilling readings were 001ppm on the TDS-1. This > product works very well. Left the cap off of a gallon of new > distilled > water over night and it read 003ppm in the water at the top. Shook > the > bottle up a little bit and read it again, this time it read 001ppm . > Seems the top layer of water in contact with the air became slightly > carbonized with contact of the CO2 in the air. Lesson : Keep your > water > sealed when not in use. >Now I`m not at the mercy of store bought distilled water. >The instruction manual said it takes six hours to make one gallon , > the one I have does it in 5 1/2 hours . > >Bless You Bob Lee > -- > oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast >l...@fbtc.net > > -- > > Tai-Pan, > > If you don't mind me asking, what was the price of the distillation > unit? > > Douglas, >It was priced at $129 plus tax. > Bob > -- > > Joseph, > Answers to questions: > Sears did not give cost of making water, the electric power consumption > is 585 watts,at 120 volts AC. > It has an activated carbon filter at the outlet,its replacable every > few months for $1.50. > Price here locally was $129 plus tax. > I filled it with one gallon of water and got one gallon of water out of > it. After distilling a batch (one gallon) there was a wet sludge in the > bottom of the tank. In my area it is mostly calcium, sulfer and some > iron oxide. The wetness was mostly D2O (heavy water). Washed it all out > after each batch. > The distiller is certified by the California Department of Health. > Amazingly it is approved by the IOWA State Department of Health. I say > this because not a single camping or trail water purifier is approved > by IOWA State. All the water purifiers in the Campmore catalog may NOT > be sold in the State of IOWA. Iowa State has really tough standards. > Good for them. The pamphlet with the machine lists 26 contaminants in > removes as per EPA guide lines. > Hope this answers your questions OK. > Bless you Bob Lee > > Ozzing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast > l...@fbtc.net Hi Joyce, Here is a recap of postings about the Sears Distiller. It should answer your questions. If not just let me know. Bless You Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Treating MS?
Mike and all, Forgive me to those that think this is not CS related but many are here for health reasons and so I send this just in case it clicks with someones symptoms and helps them. Delete now if not interested. Deb The MS/gluten/casein connection is > mostly only anecdotal as it has never really been studied. This is what I > have: > > (1) Roger MacDougall was a famous British playwright, who was diagnosed > with MS in the 1950's. The doctors felt it was best to keep the information > from him. They thought it was in his best interests not to tell him what he > had. It was not until he was bedridden that he learned what illness he had. > When he knew about it, he did some reading, and went on a gluten & casein > free diet. He recovered almost totally. This is from CAN A GLUTEN-FREE DIET > HELP? HOW? by Lloyd Rosenvold, M.D., [Keats Publishing, 27 Pine Street (Box > 876) New Canaan, CT 06840-0876, 1992, ISBN 0-87983-538-9]. MacDougall > eventually wrote a pamphlet titled "My Struggle Against Multiple > Sclerosis", pub 1980 by Regenics Inc, Rt. 10, 2660 Touby Road, Mansfield > Ohio 44903, Telephone (419) 756-2994 (Cost $2). Now an edited version is on > the web at: > > http://aspin.asu.edu/msnews/mac.htm > http://www.cris.com/~Debwalt/mylife/roger.shtml > > Rosenvold also includes some other anecdotes in his book. > > (2) In the Oct. 5, 1974, Lancet, Dr. Norman A. Matheson's letter "Multiple > Sclerosis and Diet" was published on p. 831, wherein he outlined his having > been diagnosed with MS and subsequently reading Roger MacDougall's story. > He then described his return to good health and ended with: "I thank Roger > MacDougall, whose diet made it possible to carry out these observations." > > (3) Ashton Embry has written an article "MS - probable cause and best-bet > treatment" in which he discusses the dietary and food allergy links to MS. > The paper is available at: http://www.cris.com/~Debwalt/misc/embryess.shtml > http://www.2cowherd.net/q/embry.htm or > http://aspin.asu.edu/msnews/emb696.htm (old version) > > (4) In _Gluten Intolerance_ by Beatrice Trum Hunter, Keats Publishing Inc. > New Canaan, CT. ISBN 0-87983435-8 She talks about a Dr. R. Shatin in > Australia who "has suggested that an inherited susceptibility to multiple > sclerosis is from a primary lesion in the small intestine resulting from > gluten intolerance, and that the demyelination is secondary. Shatin > suggested that the high incidence of multiple sclerosis in Canada, Scotland > and western Ireland may be related to the predominant consumption of > Canadian hard wheat, which has the highest gluten content of all wheat > varieties. In contrast, the incidence of multiple sclerosis is low among > indigenous Equatorial Africans who mainly consume non-gluten containing > grains such as millet." > > (5) In _Multiple Sclerosis_, by Jan de Vries, Mainstream Publishing, > (Thorntons?) UK it recommends absolutely no gluten and very high reduction > of dairy products, refined sugar, and saturated fats. He says that one of > his most successful case studies, confirm that 'absolutely not one pinch if > flour' i.e. absolutely no gluten at all... 'otherwise you are deceiving > yourself.' > > (6) According to Dr. Joe Murray at the University of Iowa there is the > possibility that the MS patient suffers from a neurologic complication of > undiagnosed celiac disease. About 5% of celiac patients get nerve damage > that can vary from tingling and numbness in the feet to confusion, memory > loss, dizziness and loss of balance, visual abnormalities. This sometimes > happen in the absence of GI symptoms. > > (7) Lutz, W.J., "The Colonisation of Europe and Our Western Diseases", > Medical Hypotheses, Vol. 45, pages 115-120, 1995 > > Dr. Lutz argues that there is a clear, inverse relationship between > civilisatory diseases and the length of time the people of a given region > of Europe have had to adapt to the high carbohydrate diet associated with > the cultivation of cereal grains that was begun in the Near East, and > spread very slowly through Europe. > > I quote from the first page of the article: > > "In over thirty years of clinical practice, I have found, as published in > numerous papers and several books (3, 4), that diet works well against > Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, multiple sclerosis, heart failure, > acne and other problems." > > donwiss @ panix.com can e-mail a copy of the article text to those > requesting. > > (8) There is a fellow named Dave Q that has "recovered" with a gluten-free > diet and lots of supplements. He discusses this, along with other recovery > stories, on his web site found at: http://www.2cowherd.net/q/ms.htm > > (9) There is a newsgroup for those interested in "Natural Recovery" of MS. > It's alt.support.mult-sclerosis.alternatives. Ask your system administrator > to add it if you can't find it. > > (10) A page on MS and Milk is from the Carbondale Center for Macrobiotic > St
Re: About my letter to Lyme Research List
Dr. Kunin in San Francisco successfully treated a man with M.S. by correcting nutritional imbalances. He is president of an orthomolecular society. After seeing his first patient stop hallucinating in 3 days with biotin, Dr. Kunin saysid he'll never go back to Freud again. Dr. Kunin doesn't seem "qualified" for health insurance, so the cost to see him is out of reach for most people. But if you try various natural products which have a good track record of getting people well, it may work. That's what I did, and today I've recovered my health from about half-a-dozen degenerative diseases. :) Joyce Inouye On Thu, 28 May 1998, Peter Koziol wrote: > Arnie how are you coming with the m.s battle . I can't seem to take a step > in the right direction for love or money. Please write as I need some help > and there sure as hell isn't any from the neuros. > Peter K. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
