CS>Re[2]: CS>cancer
Hi Jim, Yeah try getting in water that is 105 sometime, you can barely stand it for a 5 or 10 minutes. Take care, V > Fever therapy was also used to treat syphilis. > Take care though folks, if you stay in 110 F water for about 1 full hour, > immersed up to your neck, you will very probably be dead. > -Original Message- > From: nancymike [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:42 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>cancer
Fever therapy was also used to treat syphilis. Take care though folks, if you stay in 110 F water for about 1 full hour, immersed up to your neck, you will very probably be dead. -Original Message- From: nancymike [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>cancer I have heard of people doing this using a hot tub. By going in a hot tub to 102 for about 15 minutes at least for times a day. Nancy - Original Message - From: "Betsy Coffey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: CS>cancer > There has been alot of research on cancer treatments > regarding raising the body temperature or inducing > artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of > the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in > their home could do it . It would seem difficult to > induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer > body temperature but I think that it is the core > temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc. > > > > > __ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>re(2): CS>PHN
The US Gov thought his work potent enough to literally confiscate and burn as much of his work as they could find and to throw him in the slam, where he died. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>re(2): CS>PHN I am very happy to find this posting, as I just happen to have FINALLY received a good hardback copy of Wilhelm Reich's interesting book, The Bion Experiments.Not being a biologist, I am open-mindedly skeptical about Reich's claimed observations, but intend to keep reading and learning. Ed's useful post gives me a good site to continue that effort. Much obliged!But note that the first link, supposedly to a pleomorphism site, has evidently been taken over by a landscaping outfit! On Friday, Mar 4, 2005, at 15:54 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: > How does CS work ? > most say by killing all single cell organism. This is western > thinking. And > the downfall is that it works and it doesn't work. It is not whether > either > may be proven but in our understanding of what is happening that is > important. > Western medicinal thinking is tunnel vision based upon the single germ > theory. It is not scientifically looking for answers. It is focused on > proving its single germ theory. It works and it doesn't work - but > 'they" > will not admit that simply saying we need more research. > > TCM, Chinese Medicine = Pleomorphism: the concept that > cells/diseases, and > especially one-celled microorganisms, can change to cells/diseases of > another type. For example Pleomorphism in human cells might be the > morphing > of skin cells to connective tissue cells, or of blood cells to bone > tissue. > In TCM - Wood to Fire to Earth to Metal to Water. Cold to Heat, Damp > to > Dryness a constant ebb and flow. My thinking would say that CS works > via > Pleomorphism: returning the environment to a more natural state and > therefore not receptive to what western theory calls germs / diseases. > > http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm > http://www.whale.to/p/bird.html > > think outside the box. > Newton, Einstein, Pasteur ... > and do not be limited to everything you've been told. > > Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist > Acupuncture is a jab well done > www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. > > > > -Original Message- > From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:32 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>re(2): CS>PHN > > > Zonman: > I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for > everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt > Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since > 1907 > and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease > that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to > university professors but all say this disease is too complex and > instead opt to study the "easy" things. As you know, pharmaceutical > companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus) > were found. Many complications come from a cold. Same scenario for > Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein > Barr, etc, etc. I know people who first contracted shingles as a > teenager and still fighting it at age 80. They've tried everything > available to them without success. I don't doubt the many who've said > CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western > or > alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains. > There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the > thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses. > With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine. > > V.Jean.G. > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>re(2): CS>PHN
Hi V.Jean.G., Well are are completely correct from an allopathic medicine point of view. They give the doctors only 2 weeks worth of nutritional training and then send them out into the world to cure and heal. they amount to being highly educated professional idiots an many cases. they will never find the cures for these diseases because they are basing their entire work on a false premise and looknig entirely in the wrong place. no matter how perfect your logic is if you start from a false premise the outcome will always be wrong. So until they change their basic underlying paradigm about what causes disease they will never figure it out. the medical establishment is out there trying to cure and heal without addressing the main issue about what cause people to be ill in the first place. which is their diets, thats what makes everybody ill. the disease organisms as they call them are for the most part created within their own bodies to clean up the garbage people stuff in their faces. Until the doctors address that, they will continue to profit from the rampant ignorance that is perpetrated on people by big medicine and the mass media pushing endless varieties of factory fresh manufactured food that passes for something that you are supposed to be able to eat. If people eat correctly they dont get disesases. If people have disease and then start to eat correctly the disease goes away. The incorrect eating is the cauese of the diseases. so until they address the cause, they will not find the seloution, its as simple as that. The professores that say its all so complicated have no clues either. http://www.expo-net.org/PasteurBechamp.html http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html http://wholehealth.homestead.com/raw.html Take care, V > Zonman: > I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for > everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt > Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907 > and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease > that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to > university professors but all say this disease is too complex and > instead opt to study the "easy" things. As you know, pharmaceutical > companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus) > were found. Many complications come from a cold. Same scenario for > Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein > Barr, etc, etc. I know people who first contracted shingles as a > teenager and still fighting it at age 80. They've tried everything > available to them without success. I don't doubt the many who've said > CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or > alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains. > There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the > thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses. > With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine. > V.Jean.G. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>re(2): CS>PHN
My neighbor had PHN, I wrote about his cure a few days ago, I had MS and am doing very well. Yes, it is true, if I stopped CS completely, the mycoplasma would begin to replicate themselves, and I would possibly be in a wheel chair, and perhaps my neighbor would once again have the terrible pain he endured for eight years if he stopped CS. BUT why would I stop CS and have this happen? Why would I stop CS for any reason? My husband is a very healthy person. He has not had any major problems, but he now takes two oz. of CS a day. We have not had even a cold or the flu in the five years we've been on CS. Why would I stop??? Beside, I do not believe there are thousands of viruses out there. I truly believe the mycoplasma is one virus and it enters the body and morphs to whatever cells it enters. Now you have many diseases from one virus.. Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein Barr, etc, etc. http://mindcontrolforums.com/mycoplamsa.htm Mycoplasma is misspelled, but this is correct site. If you like to suffer, listen to your doctors and professors. If you want to stop the pain and suffering, stick with CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: "V.Jean.G." To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: CS>re(2): CS>PHN > Zonman: > I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for > everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt > Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907 > and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease > that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to > university professors but all say this disease is too complex and > instead opt to study the "easy" things. As you know, pharmaceutical > companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus) > were found. Many complications come from a cold. Same scenario for > Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein > Barr, etc, etc. I know people who first contracted shingles as a > teenager and still fighting it at age 80. They've tried everything > available to them without success. I don't doubt the many who've said > CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or > alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains. > There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the > thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses. > With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine. > > V.Jean.G. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>cancer
I have heard of people doing this using a hot tub. By going in a hot tub to 102 for about 15 minutes at least for times a day. Nancy - Original Message - From: "Betsy Coffey" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: CS>cancer > There has been alot of research on cancer treatments > regarding raising the body temperature or inducing > artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of > the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in > their home could do it . It would seem difficult to > induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer > body temperature but I think that it is the core > temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc. > > > > > __ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>my last pH post
Sol said, "My understanding is that the blood alkalinity is maintained by the body excreting excess acid in the urine. Therefore the blood is alkaline, but the urine is acid. I have read that alkaline urine means the blood/body is therefore too alkaline, which is as harmful as too acid. People with alkaline urine do seem to have more bladder infections. I have also read that alkaline urine is a sign of illness. Hope someone can explain the discrepancy to me. Terry, you sent me your file so I will do some reading there, too, but wanted to post my question here anyway." After this post on the subject of pH, I will adjourn to the OT list, or respond to personal emails. I will be a bit simplistic, but still try to be essentially correct. Dr. Reams claimed that the body uses more calcium everyday, by volume, than all other nutrients combined. The way our bodies utilize calciums is by the interaction between them with each other. A good analogy would be the interaction between baking soda and vinegar. If you were to mix a cup of each together, you would see a great release of energy. How about a cup of vinegar and a teaspoon of baking soda? Not much reaction, not much energy released because of the . When I see someone with an acid pH, I know they are actually deficient in alkalinizing calcium. The have too much vinegar, and not enough baking soda. But, of course, they dont actually have too much vinegar (acidifying calcium). What they need is more alkalinizing calciums, such as calcium hydroxide or coral calcium. Although Dr. Reams isolated seven different kinds of calcium which our bodies need, there are essentially three categories of calcium to be considered: Alkaline-pH calciums (calcium hydroxide, phosphate and carbonate), Acid-pH calciums (calcium lactate and sulphate) and neutral-pH calciums (calcium gluconate, aspartate, citrate, orotate, etc.). A deficiency of alkaline calcium, for instance, will express itself as an apparent excess of acidifying calcium (calcium "deposits" are nearly always one type of calcium accumulating somewhere in your body because of a deficiency of the other). The Bioanalysis pH tests determine which kind of calcium your body may be deficient in, and indicate which kind of calcium should be supplemented. Nowadays, the most common kind of calcium you will find being sold is an alkaline-pH calcium, calcium carbonate (usually ground-up oyster shell). Most multi-vitamin/mineral supplements use it, and wherever you see labels which announce "Calcium added!" (whether in food, drink or supplement), it is nearly always calcium carbonate. (It is the cheapest form of calcium available.) Most acid-indigestion supplements are made of this calcium (Tums, Rolaids, etc.). This would be okay, except that most calcium carbonate is extremely difficult to digest and assimilate (much like eating chalk). Not all adults and very few children need to take alkaline-pH calcium (and especially commercial calcium carbonate). So if a person's metabolic pH is already too alkaline (indicating a deficiency in acidifying calcium), taking alkaline-pH calcium will only aggravate the health problems which can be caused by having an overly-alkaline metabolic pH. When the bodys pH is too acid, the digestion is too fast, and a deficiency of certain nutrients develop (such as Vit A, which is best assimilated in an alkaline medium). Youve heard that Vit D is important for the assimilation of calcium. This is true for acid-pH people, but definitely not true for alkaline-pH folks. People with very acid pH will have a tendency for diahrea or loose stools (except for other factors that may affect this tendency). As has been noted, very acid pH contributes to the formation of cancer, arthritis and other bone-joint disorders. Acid pH will mean the pancreas is producing weak or inefficient insulin, so blood sugar tends to be too high. Many folks, Reams said, are diagnosed with diabetes because of their high sugars when merely adjusting their pH up out of the acid zone would resolve their high sugars. Taking insulin significantly interferes with the bodys ability to produce its own natural insulin, effectively making you into a diabetic, even if you actually werent to begin with. People with overly-alkaline pH will tend to constipation and gas (because of very slow digestion). They will be deficient in Vit D. They will digest proteins poorly. They will tend towards heart problems (assuming certain other issues also exist). Alkaline pH will produce overly-strong insulin, driving sugars down too low (hypoglycemia). Dr. Reams insisted that, while a balanced pH in a laboratory would be 7.0 (chemical definition), in the human body it was 6.4 (biological definition). I know this goes against the conventional medical and Natural Health viewpoint, but I have consistently found the best health experience with folks whos pH is consistently 6.4-6.6. Dr. Reams was not actually concerned with pH, but with anionic and
CS>inducing fevers
Just wanted to say thanks to all who answered my post. The suggestions were very helpful. it reminded me of a time when I was a child and had the flue at my grandmothers house. I was shaking with a high fever. She wrapped me in saran wrap(I laugh thinking about it now). I woke up in the middle of the nite and broke out in a sweat. The next morning I was completly over the flue or whatever bug I had. __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>re(2): CS>PHN broken link
Ed, something's wrong at your end, because the links seemed to work just fine here... Mike D. > the link opens; its the first actually 2 links that seem to > go into landscaping. > Bummer, as I look out into my own tall overgrown what used > to be lawn. maybe there's a message there, eh. > http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm > > ed > > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan B. Britten > [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:35 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>re(2): CS>PHN > > > I am very happy to find this posting, as I just happen to > have FINALLY > received a good hardback copy of Wilhelm Reich's interesting > book, The > Bion Experiments.Not being a biologist, I am > open-mindedly > skeptical about Reich's claimed observations, but intend to > keep > reading and learning. Ed's useful post gives me a good > site to > continue that effort. Much obliged!But note that the > first link, > supposedly to a pleomorphism site, has evidently been taken > over by a > landscaping outfit! > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CS>re(2): CS>PHN broken link
the link opens; its the first actually 2 links that seem to go into landscaping. Bummer, as I look out into my own tall overgrown what used to be lawn. maybe there's a message there, eh. http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm ed -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>re(2): CS>PHN I am very happy to find this posting, as I just happen to have FINALLY received a good hardback copy of Wilhelm Reich's interesting book, The Bion Experiments.Not being a biologist, I am open-mindedly skeptical about Reich's claimed observations, but intend to keep reading and learning. Ed's useful post gives me a good site to continue that effort. Much obliged!But note that the first link, supposedly to a pleomorphism site, has evidently been taken over by a landscaping outfit! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Could CS help avoid a root canal? - - and MND
This has been a most interesting discussion, and I was amazed by the experience using dolomite. That is really information that needs to be out there. I have passed all this information on to my dentist. There are many biodentists out there who know and do the right things, but they do have to be a bit circumspect. Once this dentist had at my request replaced all my amalgams with white stuff, he may have felt freer to disclose his true opinions about amalgams. Good to have him in charage of my teeth. It was this man who told me about Rife; I found a practitioner in the city (3 hrs away, Perth) who uses QXCI (if I got that right) and since then have bought an Enar device. www.enlightenedtherapies.com I asked him last time I saw him about H2O2 on teeth, and he said we really didn't know enough about what it does to the teeth. So It was great to hear your experiences. Are these all in now, or are there more that haven't been reported yet? I would like to pass on this helpful knowledge and experience. This dentist's daughter is a naturopath. His wife, an active, creative, talented woman has been stricken by the cruelty of motor neurone disease and I am constantly on the lookout for information for her. I have found some encouraging advice. She is unable to speak, but the last I know was still able to access email, and so I send her whatever information seems relevant. So, you great group who have helped other of my friends and acquaintances - what do you know that will help Motor Neurone Disease? Rowena
CS>cancer & heat (cold sheet)
CS>cancer From: Betsy Coffey wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:24:18 >There has been a lot of research on cancer treatments regarding raising the body temperature or inducing artificial fevers. They are able to do this at some of the holistic clinics. I dont know how a lay person in their home could do it . It would seem difficult to induce a fever yourself. YOu could raise the outer body temperature but I think that it is the core temperature that kills cancer,bugs etc. Dr Richard Schulze, Extreme Herbalist, (and others) sometimes advocate what is referred to as the "Cold Sheet" procedure to induce an artificial fever and promote cleansing by means of sweating. (I am relating this from memory so take that into consideration.) This is used in conjunction with other healing and cleansing procedures, for instance, the subject may be on a vegan or juice diet, etc, for cleansing. The subject takes an enema beforehand to clean out the colon, possibly with garlic in the enema water... Then a hot tub is filled and a handful of ground cayenne pepper and dried ginger was added to the water. Depending on the strength of this, I believe the subject may have put Vaseline or some sort of ointment to cover the genitals and the anus so as not to burn from the herbs... The subject then gets into the bath which is kept hot, and rubs it over the skin, face and head, but not getting it in the eyes, of course. Meanwhile, the subject is also drinking as much hot tea as they can stand, several cups at the very least. The tea is made with peppermint or some herb that will induce sweating and cause the pores of the skin to open. I suppose you could use tea of ginger and cayenne as well. Meanwhile a clean white sheet is soaking in a bucket of ice water, with ice cubes in it. When the person has had as much heat as they can stand, the helper helps them get up and step out of the tub. (When the person feels faint, certainly it is time to get out. I believe that most want to get out well before this and may need to be persuaded to stay the course.) The cold sheet is wrung out and draped over the subject covering from head to foot and wound around them. Then they are helped to a bed which has been prepared beforehand with a waterproof mattress barrier, sheets and blankets. The sheet-wrapped subject is put to bed and wrapped with blankets and stays there until morning. If they have to pee, they pee in the sheet. (Pee in the tub beforehand.) However, most of the moisture comes out through the sweat and stains the sheet in multiple colors. This can be a somewhat extreme procedure and should be done by someone who knows what they are doing. Certainly have a helper, don't try to do it alone... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> PHN Shingles - speedy relief with homeopathic remedy
"There's no cure for shingles" I got shingles on my left eyebrow - not pleasant. I guessed what it must be before seeing anyone, and immediately took the homeopathic remedy ==Rhus Tox= which I happend to have in the house. I went to my homeoapth who uses Interro computer assisted diagnosis, and he gave me the correct herpes zoster remedy. Within a week I was OK, though for a few years I did get one isoloated small flaky patch from year to year on that spot which would bleed if I scratched it. However, I was spared the misery others have endured. Relief was amazingly quick. I didn't go to the doctor at all. Seen too many cases of people suffering horribly for months. Rowena
Re: CS>cancer & heat
Deborah, At 11:06 AM 3/4/2005, you wrote: My understanding is that tumor formation is a sort of 'cold' process and that people with tendencies towards the inflammatory (warm) pole are more likely to develop conditions like heart disease while those who tend towards the sclerotic (cold) pole are susceptible to cancer and other tumor conditions. Finding a balance is the key of course, and I'd think that using saunas etc. to raise the temperature is most useful in prevention and only one aspect of recovery from cancer. Interesting, when Gary went through Hep C treatment one of the side effects is he is always cold when he used to be just the opposite. Now he has the cancerous tumor. I will try to get some PH strips to start testing and also ask his Dr. for his current urine PH results. Teri -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS:Salt of the earth
There is a fascinating collection of essays on salt at http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/salt.htm Rowena
Re: CS>cancer & heat
Thanks Deborah and just to add a similar procedure ... a family treatment my children never really cared for..by sitting in 1 to 2 inches of hot tub water with a trickle of hot to keep it that way...as hot as I can stand covered up above the water line with a dry towel ...profuse sweating usually would begin..within a short time my temperature will read 100 to 101 degrees Fahrenheit ...which ...for me in the past would whip most flu and cold virus..it usually would take a day or two for my system to clear accumulated viral refuse...the drink to sip slowly was one half spoon full of these three ...sodium magnesium and cream of tarter..to a quart of water ...and I have always included several raw garlic cloves..which might strengthen cell walls to prevent ongoing viral attack... - Original Message - From: deborah byron To: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: CS>cancer & heat > Hi Betsy--How do you measure core body temperature I wonder? In a really > nice hot bath at home, where I can get totally submerged (except the head > of course), I can easily and quickly raise my temp., taken with a regular > old mercury thermometer, to 103 degrees or so. Indeed, this has been my > first line of defense for years when a cold/flu is coming on. Sometimes > this is enough to knock it right out and other times the induced fever > continues on, as if it needed a jump start. But I can say that after > avoiding suppression for about 30 years now, my system can almost always > still produce a good fever when I need one. > > My understanding is that tumor formation is a sort of 'cold' process and > that people with tendencies towards the inflammatory (warm) pole are more > likely to develop conditions like heart disease while those who tend > towards the sclerotic (cold) pole are susceptible to cancer and other > tumor conditions. Finding a balance is the key of course, and I'd think > that using saunas etc. to raise the temperature is most useful in > prevention and only one aspect of recovery from cancer. > > My 2 cents, > Deborah > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:20:16 -0800 (PST), Betsy Coffey > wrote: > > > > > There has been alot of research on cancer treatments > > regarding raising the body temperature or inducing > > artificial fevers. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>cancer & heat
Hi Betsy--How do you measure core body temperature I wonder? In a really nice hot bath at home, where I can get totally submerged (except the head of course), I can easily and quickly raise my temp., taken with a regular old mercury thermometer, to 103 degrees or so. Indeed, this has been my first line of defense for years when a cold/flu is coming on. Sometimes this is enough to knock it right out and other times the induced fever continues on, as if it needed a jump start. But I can say that after avoiding suppression for about 30 years now, my system can almost always still produce a good fever when I need one. My understanding is that tumor formation is a sort of 'cold' process and that people with tendencies towards the inflammatory (warm) pole are more likely to develop conditions like heart disease while those who tend towards the sclerotic (cold) pole are susceptible to cancer and other tumor conditions. Finding a balance is the key of course, and I'd think that using saunas etc. to raise the temperature is most useful in prevention and only one aspect of recovery from cancer. My 2 cents, Deborah On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:20:16 -0800 (PST), Betsy Coffey wrote: There has been alot of research on cancer treatments regarding raising the body temperature or inducing artificial fevers. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>pH testing
My understanding is that the blood alkalinity is maintained by the body excreting excess acid in the urine. Therefore the blood is alkaline, but the urine is acid. I have read that alkaline urine means the blood/body is therefore too alkaline, which is as harmful as too acid. People with alkaline urine do seem to have more bladder infections. I have also read that alkaline urine is a sign of illness. Hope someone can explain the discrepancy to me. Terry, you sent me your file so I will do some reading there, too, but wanted to post my question here anyway. sol TC wrote: How acid or alkaline a client is, to what degree, if the pH fluctuates, how much or how frequently it fluctuates, if their pH is split either way (acid urine/alkaline saliva or vice-versa), these tell me what kind of calcium the client needs (alkalinizing calcium like calcium hydroxide or coral calcium, acidifying calcium like calcium lactate), how efficient their digestion is, how well their pancreas is functioning and other specifics. Sincerely, Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS: Link to book review Clinical trials, cot deaths, vaccinations, Pharma data fabrication
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/reviews2.html#pasteur This page is reviewing books on clinical trials, data fabrication in the pharmaceutical industry, a fungus in cot mattresses linked to cot deaths, vaccinations, and other subjects. Rowena
CS>Re:RE: CS>Re:Re: CS>Moducare
Call toll free i-877 297-7332 or e-mail i...@moducare.com website www.moducare.com Bill -- Do you have a paper or two on that Nina? Seriously, can you please explain the difference between them? Thank you in advance, Jim -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Re:Re: CS>Moducare Moducare is STEROLS not STEROIDS. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS> PHN
Apparently you have not heard the several anecdotal reports of Colloidial Silver curing shingles that have appeared on this list. -Original Message- From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS> PHN There's no cure for shingles; however, Famvir, an expensive anti-viral prescription drug, may help to control the disease but won't cure it. Shingles is caused by Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. It starts in the ear, affects the eyesight, tear ducts, hearing, facial muscles, swallowing, speech, hair loss, vertigo, high anxiety, and slowly progresses to vital organs and lastly the brain. Massachusetts General Hospital has estimated over a million suffer from shingles in the U.S. Why no one has studied this disease, discovered in 1907, is truly mind boggling. Contact your state and federal representatives and ask for research on Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome. V.Jean.G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re:Re: CS>Moducare
Do you have a paper or two on that Nina? Seriously, can you please explain the difference between them? Thank you in advance, Jim -Original Message- From: Nina Whit [mailto:ninaw...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Re:Re: CS>Moducare Moducare is STEROLS not STEROIDS. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>pH testing
I do pH testing for all my clients, have done so since 1984. What is tested is urine and saliva. After testing every substance in/from/on a human body, Dr. Carey Reams found that the specific dynamics he was looking for were duplicated in urine and saliva. Although every single person I have tested since 1984 who had cancer had an acidic pH (usually both urine and saliva), not every person who has an acid pH will get cancer. I usually have my clients test urine and saliva morning and evening for six days, before they come in to my office to do the rest of the Reams tests. Those clients who live too far away do only the pH testing. The pH paper that is used to perform this testing must test in .2 increments (6.0, 6.2, 6.4, etc.), not .5 increments (6.0, 6.5, 7.0). Normal pharmaceutical litmus strips only measure in .5 increments. How acid or alkaline a client is, to what degree, if the pH fluctuates, how much or how frequently it fluctuates, if their pH is split either way (acid urine/alkaline saliva or vice-versa), these tell me what kind of calcium the client needs (alkalinizing calcium like calcium hydroxide or coral calcium, acidifying calcium like calcium lactate), how efficient their digestion is, how well their pancreas is functioning and other specifics. I have a file I can send as an email attachment to anyone interested that contains a page they can print out that gives instructions for performing the testing, plus places to fill in the testing numbers. This is the same file I have sent many list members who wanted info about CS. It also contains info about pH, calciums, etc. If you want this file, please email me requesting it at THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS: msi...@yahoo.com Sincerely, Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst Metabolic Solutions Institute RR1 Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 902-584-3810 msi...@yahoo.com __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>re(2): CS>PHN
I am very happy to find this posting, as I just happen to have FINALLY received a good hardback copy of Wilhelm Reich's interesting book, The Bion Experiments.Not being a biologist, I am open-mindedly skeptical about Reich's claimed observations, but intend to keep reading and learning. Ed's useful post gives me a good site to continue that effort. Much obliged!But note that the first link, supposedly to a pleomorphism site, has evidently been taken over by a landscaping outfit! On Friday, Mar 4, 2005, at 15:54 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote: How does CS work ? most say by killing all single cell organism. This is western thinking. And the downfall is that it works and it doesn't work. It is not whether either may be proven but in our understanding of what is happening that is important. Western medicinal thinking is tunnel vision based upon the single germ theory. It is not scientifically looking for answers. It is focused on proving its single germ theory. It works and it doesn't work - but 'they" will not admit that simply saying we need more research. TCM, Chinese Medicine = Pleomorphism: the concept that cells/diseases, and especially one-celled microorganisms, can change to cells/diseases of another type. For example Pleomorphism in human cells might be the morphing of skin cells to connective tissue cells, or of blood cells to bone tissue. In TCM - Wood to Fire to Earth to Metal to Water. Cold to Heat, Damp to Dryness a constant ebb and flow. My thinking would say that CS works via Pleomorphism: returning the environment to a more natural state and therefore not receptive to what western theory calls germs / diseases. http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm http://www.whale.to/p/bird.html think outside the box. Newton, Einstein, Pasteur ... and do not be limited to everything you've been told. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: V.Jean.G. [mailto:tijua...@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>re(2): CS>PHN Zonman: I need to clarify my comments on shingles. I agree, there's a cure for everything that hasn't exceeded the point of no return. Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome is no different; however, when RHS is merely ignored since 1907 and no research of any kind, how can there ever be a cure for a disease that maimes, disables and kills equals to Aids? I've spoken to university professors but all say this disease is too complex and instead opt to study the "easy" things. As you know, pharmaceutical companies would lose billions if a cure to the common cold (a virus) were found. Many complications come from a cold. Same scenario for Parkinsons, Alzheimers, ALS, MS, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Epstein Barr, etc, etc. I know people who first contracted shingles as a teenager and still fighting it at age 80. They've tried everything available to them without success. I don't doubt the many who've said CS has helped them; however, once CS is stopped, or any other Western or alternative medicine, the symptoms always return and the virus remains. There can be no cures to these diseases unless there's research on the thousands of viruses out there. There are eight categories of viruses. With all due respect, you have your opinion and I have mine. V.Jean.G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour