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Hello qlink, Can you give me more info, where to order or internetsite with more info about this book, etc. Thanks Jef ql...@tds.net 19-03-02 04:24 It seems to me .017 dilution is for IV. Dr. Douglass has treated (not experimented on) hundreds, perhaps thousands with H2O2, and is an authority on UVBI and Ozone therapy. The major caution of using H2O2 in the lungs is for those who are taking additional drugs (in the lungs) from what I recall. According to Dr. Douglass, it works very well in respiratory infections. I'd like to post his complete article, but the information is out there. Probably the best thing to say (which I regret not saying at this point) is proceed with caution; hence my suggestion to get Dr. Douglass' book on H2O2. Unfortunately, Dr. Charles Farr (recognized as the modern day 'father of h2o2') died a few years ago, and apparently his website has since been removed. - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:04 AM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS My penny: I won't use H2O2 in the lungs... I am certain that in most cases it is fine... but I almost sat and watched someone die through experimental use. Brooks Bradley has a bit more experience in the possible consequences of use, through his groups experimentation... My dilution was less than .017 percent ( I'd have to look up the exact numbers ). I theorize that the individual experiened a severe nicotine overdose, but it could have been the nature of the infection itself. I am uncertain. The experience scared me enough to abandon all experimentation. Only three short breaths via oxygen nebulizer were taken. I know that many people use H2O2 in the lungs with reportedly good results. It's just something I cannot personally pursue. I agree that careful thought ( as apposed to simply downing an ounce or two of CS every so often ) with using colloidal silver yields very excellent results! Jason - Original Message - From: DJG ql...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS My 2 cents: According to Dr. William Campbell Douglass M.D., a 50/50 mix of 3% H2O2/distilled water can be used in a nebulizer. Substituting CS for the water would seem logical. It doesn't take much in my experience, but doing many short sessions are better than a few long ones. For the more serious throat conditions, I do several short sessions per day with the nebulizer, then gargle and swallow CS by itself. Spraying the throat several times during the day too. Also, I believe in attacking these serious problems using all available weapons. GSE is extremely potent, and can be (must be) diluted in many mediums for this purpose as well. I've also used GSE in saline solution with a nebulizer (1 to 4 drops standard strength per ounce). This idea was given to me by a respiratory therapist. I think people who don't have success likely don't go after it aggressively as it should be done, plus many buy CS and natural antimicrobials and use according to directions, which experience tells us usually gives less than desireable results. The experiences we've had in my family has negated the need for standard treatments in every case...once we learned the ropes. For ear infections (chronic in my one child at one point), using a regimen we developed over time has never failed to successfully rid it usually within 12 hours or so. Success was not an option as the standard method is inserting ear tubessomething we wish had never been done previous to our enlightenment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS
It seems to me .017 dilution is for IV. Dr. Douglass has treated (not experimented on) hundreds, perhaps thousands with H2O2, and is an authority on UVBI and Ozone therapy. The major caution of using H2O2 in the lungs is for those who are taking additional drugs (in the lungs) from what I recall. According to Dr. Douglass, it works very well in respiratory infections. I'd like to post his complete article, but the information is out there. Probably the best thing to say (which I regret not saying at this point) is proceed with caution; hence my suggestion to get Dr. Douglass' book on H2O2. Unfortunately, Dr. Charles Farr (recognized as the modern day 'father of h2o2') died a few years ago, and apparently his website has since been removed. - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:04 AM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS My penny: I won't use H2O2 in the lungs... I am certain that in most cases it is fine... but I almost sat and watched someone die through experimental use. Brooks Bradley has a bit more experience in the possible consequences of use, through his groups experimentation... My dilution was less than .017 percent ( I'd have to look up the exact numbers ). I theorize that the individual experiened a severe nicotine overdose, but it could have been the nature of the infection itself. I am uncertain. The experience scared me enough to abandon all experimentation. Only three short breaths via oxygen nebulizer were taken. I know that many people use H2O2 in the lungs with reportedly good results. It's just something I cannot personally pursue. I agree that careful thought ( as apposed to simply downing an ounce or two of CS every so often ) with using colloidal silver yields very excellent results! Jason - Original Message - From: DJG ql...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS My 2 cents: According to Dr. William Campbell Douglass M.D., a 50/50 mix of 3% H2O2/distilled water can be used in a nebulizer. Substituting CS for the water would seem logical. It doesn't take much in my experience, but doing many short sessions are better than a few long ones. For the more serious throat conditions, I do several short sessions per day with the nebulizer, then gargle and swallow CS by itself. Spraying the throat several times during the day too. Also, I believe in attacking these serious problems using all available weapons. GSE is extremely potent, and can be (must be) diluted in many mediums for this purpose as well. I've also used GSE in saline solution with a nebulizer (1 to 4 drops standard strength per ounce). This idea was given to me by a respiratory therapist. I think people who don't have success likely don't go after it aggressively as it should be done, plus many buy CS and natural antimicrobials and use according to directions, which experience tells us usually gives less than desireable results. The experiences we've had in my family has negated the need for standard treatments in every case...once we learned the ropes. For ear infections (chronic in my one child at one point), using a regimen we developed over time has never failed to successfully rid it usually within 12 hours or so. Success was not an option as the standard method is inserting ear tubessomething we wish had never been done previous to our enlightenment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS
In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. Jason-- What was the batch size, please? --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSStrep Throat Report - CS
Greetings, all: Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally. Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more depth, due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used colloidal silver. The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical attention was not sought. There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ). In reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas, apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as others. I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS, as well as the lungs. I personally have not had Strep Throat for over twelve years. Recently, I acquired it! I believe it was a hospital strain, due to the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays. The person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic cocktail treatment. I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms. The infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the throat. Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a heavily ionic silver for the throat. The silver particles will not do the trick, which is why the little girl probably died. This is only common sense. The silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore the dilution factor is far greater. Silver ions do. In an external environment, I believe the concentration of silver needs to be greater than within the body to get the job done. Silver ions are far more effective against pathogens than silver particles. This is not speculation, it is fact. All ionic silver is not converted to silver chloride the body. Clinical trials will hopefully soon be available that demonstrate this fact, basic chemistry simplification aside. Despite the debate on whether or not H2O2 ionizes silver particles, my extensive experimentation shows that all visible silver particles can be either dropped out of suspension or ionized, as measured by a tyndall effect. I have found that this process is best initiated shortly after brew time. The process, as I've measured it, first results in a greater tyndall effect - sometimes, if a heavy particle solution is used, the CS becomes visibly cloudy. Sometimes it even boils. If the tyndall effect is light to start with, in a few hours the tyndall effect is eliminated all together. The extreme metallic taste indicates a very high ionic content. In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. I like to take advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before using it. Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for at least one minute. This prevents the ill stomach effect of H2O2. Then, one allows the CS to trickle down the throat. In my case, I can usually axe a sore throat in two to four hours. I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for about an hour. Upon first starting, the infection was isolated to that small patch - it did not spread, but neither was it eliminated. My personal protocol allows a 7 day window for treatment. I would have hit it a bit more aggressively, but my schedule only permitted this in the early morning and the evening. In 72-79 hours ( sometime during my sleep ) the infection was gone. A week later, another associate came down with Strep, from another source. I've worked with this individual before, and the response time to CS for sore throats is markedly longer Eight hours to 24 hours on average ( over the last two years ). I made a stronger batch of CS, about 15 PPM. I used more H2O2, five drops of 35% to two ounces of CS. The strep was eliminated in under six hours, with only one one hour treatment. These results have been really pleasing. Strep literally tears into the throat and does significant tissue damage. Expect the streps that come out of the hospitals to be increasingly virulent. One day, I hope to be able to culture some of these infections! Warm Regards to all, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS
I am new to colloidal silver. Are you saying that you need to do something different to the CS to make it effective for strep throat. Can you be a little more clear as to what it is? Billie - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Greetings, all: Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally. Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more depth, due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used colloidal silver. The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical attention was not sought. There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ). In reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas, apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as others. I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS, as well as the lungs. I personally have not had Strep Throat for over twelve years. Recently, I acquired it! I believe it was a hospital strain, due to the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays. The person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic cocktail treatment. I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms. The infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the throat. Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a heavily ionic silver for the throat. The silver particles will not do the trick, which is why the little girl probably died. This is only common sense. The silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore the dilution factor is far greater. Silver ions do. In an external environment, I believe the concentration of silver needs to be greater than within the body to get the job done. Silver ions are far more effective against pathogens than silver particles. This is not speculation, it is fact. All ionic silver is not converted to silver chloride the body. Clinical trials will hopefully soon be available that demonstrate this fact, basic chemistry simplification aside. Despite the debate on whether or not H2O2 ionizes silver particles, my extensive experimentation shows that all visible silver particles can be either dropped out of suspension or ionized, as measured by a tyndall effect. I have found that this process is best initiated shortly after brew time. The process, as I've measured it, first results in a greater tyndall effect - sometimes, if a heavy particle solution is used, the CS becomes visibly cloudy. Sometimes it even boils. If the tyndall effect is light to start with, in a few hours the tyndall effect is eliminated all together. The extreme metallic taste indicates a very high ionic content. In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. I like to take advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before using it. Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for at least one minute. This prevents the ill stomach effect of H2O2. Then, one allows the CS to trickle down the throat. In my case, I can usually axe a sore throat in two to four hours. I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for about an hour. Upon first starting, the infection was isolated to that small patch - it did not spread, but neither was it eliminated. My personal protocol allows a 7 day window for treatment. I would have hit it a bit more aggressively, but my schedule only permitted this in the early morning and the evening. In 72-79 hours ( sometime during my sleep ) the infection was gone. A week later, another associate came down with Strep, from another source. I've worked with this individual before, and the response time to CS for sore throats is markedly longer Eight hours to 24 hours on average ( over the last two years ). I made a stronger batch of CS, about 15 PPM. I used more H2O2, five drops of 35% to two ounces of CS. The strep was eliminated in under six hours, with only one one hour treatment. These results have been really pleasing. Strep literally tears into the throat and does significant tissue damage. Expect the streps that come out of the hospitals to be increasingly virulent. One day, I hope to be able to culture some of these infections! Warm Regards to all, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health
Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS
You used 35% Hydrogen peroxide!!! Youch. I cannot bring myself to use it - as a hairdresser I have used it forever, to lighten peoples hair - I know what even 6% can do, let alone using it on your insides.I just imagine it all bubbling and burning things in there12% used to take the skin off my fingers on contact. I know people swear by it - I have heard pros and cons about it - what does everyone one else think - am I the only one who is concerned at using this strength? I know it is very diluted - but so is homeopathy! Can't diluting things make them even stronger in some cases... Tracy - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 18 March 2002 15:56 Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Billie: I can't say for certain that anything special NEEDS to be done, I can only report what I experienced in these two cases. With strep, if your treatment is not responding within seven days, just be certain to find something that does work, because it can rapidly turn into a very serious condition. Over the years, I have seen quite a few posts to various places concerning strep throat... Some people report good results, others report poor results. As stated in my initial post, here is the exact method I used ( the H2O2 was added to 2 ounces of CS ): In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. I like to take advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before using it. Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for at least one minute. This prevents the ill stomach effect of H2O2. Then, one allows the CS to trickle down the throat. I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for about an hour. In the second case, I simply used a bit more 35% hydrogen peroxide ( an extra two drops ). In both situations, the H2O2 was still active in the CS. I hope this clears up any confusion! Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Billie zebeca...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS I am new to colloidal silver. Are you saying that you need to do something different to the CS to make it effective for strep throat. Can you be a little more clear as to what it is? Billie - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Greetings, all: Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally. Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more depth, due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used colloidal silver. The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical attention was not sought. There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ). In reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas, apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as others. I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS, as well as the lungs. I personally have not had Strep Throat for over twelve years. Recently, I acquired it! I believe it was a hospital strain, due to the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays. The person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic cocktail treatment. I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms. The infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the throat. Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a heavily ionic silver for the throat. The silver particles will not do the trick, which is why the little girl probably died. This is only common sense. The silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore the dilution factor is far greater. Silver ions do. In an external environment, I believe the concentration of silver needs to be greater than within the body to get the job done. Silver ions are far more effective against pathogens than silver particles. This is not speculation, it is fact. All ionic silver is not converted to silver chloride the body. Clinical trials will hopefully soon be available that demonstrate this fact, basic chemistry simplification aside. Despite the debate on whether or not H2O2 ionizes silver particles, my extensive experimentation shows that all visible silver particles can be either dropped out of suspension or ionized, as measured by a tyndall effect. I have found that this process is best initiated shortly after brew time. The process, as I've measured it, first results in a greater tyndall
Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS
My 2 cents: According to Dr. William Campbell Douglass M.D., a 50/50 mix of 3% H2O2/distilled water can be used in a nebulizer. Substituting CS for the water would seem logical. It doesn't take much in my experience, but doing many short sessions are better than a few long ones. For the more serious throat conditions, I do several short sessions per day with the nebulizer, then gargle and swallow CS by itself. Spraying the throat several times during the day too. Also, I believe in attacking these serious problems using all available weapons. GSE is extremely potent, and can be (must be) diluted in many mediums for this purpose as well. I've also used GSE in saline solution with a nebulizer (1 to 4 drops standard strength per ounce). This idea was given to me by a respiratory therapist. I think people who don't have success likely don't go after it aggressively as it should be done, plus many buy CS and natural antimicrobials and use according to directions, which experience tells us usually gives less than desireable results. The experiences we've had in my family has negated the need for standard treatments in every case...once we learned the ropes. For ear infections (chronic in my one child at one point), using a regimen we developed over time has never failed to successfully rid it usually within 12 hours or so. Success was not an option as the standard method is inserting ear tubessomething we wish had never been done previous to our enlightenment. - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:56 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Billie: I can't say for certain that anything special NEEDS to be done, I can only report what I experienced in these two cases. With strep, if your treatment is not responding within seven days, just be certain to find something that does work, because it can rapidly turn into a very serious condition. Over the years, I have seen quite a few posts to various places concerning strep throat... Some people report good results, others report poor results. As stated in my initial post, here is the exact method I used ( the H2O2 was added to 2 ounces of CS ): In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. I like to take advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before using it. Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for at least one minute. This prevents the ill stomach effect of H2O2. Then, one allows the CS to trickle down the throat. I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for about an hour. In the second case, I simply used a bit more 35% hydrogen peroxide ( an extra two drops ). In both situations, the H2O2 was still active in the CS. I hope this clears up any confusion! Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Billie zebeca...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS I am new to colloidal silver. Are you saying that you need to do something different to the CS to make it effective for strep throat. Can you be a little more clear as to what it is? Billie - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Greetings, all: Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally. Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more depth, due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used colloidal silver. The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical attention was not sought. There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ). In reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas, apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as others. I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS, as well as the lungs. I personally have not had Strep Throat for over twelve years. Recently, I acquired it! I believe it was a hospital strain, due to the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays. The person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic cocktail treatment. I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms. The infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the throat. Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a heavily ionic silver for the throat. The silver particles will not do the trick, which is why the little girl probably died. This is only common sense. The silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore
Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS
You are correct. Some say it's ok, others say it's not; both sides having knowledgeable sources. For me, I choose not to drink it (feels like a brick in my stomach), but in a nebulizer, I've had no adverse reactions, and only use when there's a need. Dr. William Campbell Douglass M.D. if I recall, cautions against ingesting it very often (it is a free radical). I don't know what to think truthfully, but decided not to take the chance even though I know people that use it often. Used in an IV it can have near miraculous results in certain conditions according to it's proponents. - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS You used 35% Hydrogen peroxide!!! Youch. I cannot bring myself to use it - as a hairdresser I have used it forever, to lighten peoples hair - I know what even 6% can do, let alone using it on your insides.I just imagine it all bubbling and burning things in there12% used to take the skin off my fingers on contact. I know people swear by it - I have heard pros and cons about it - what does everyone one else think - am I the only one who is concerned at using this strength? I know it is very diluted - but so is homeopathy! Can't diluting things make them even stronger in some cases... Tracy - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 18 March 2002 15:56 Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Billie: I can't say for certain that anything special NEEDS to be done, I can only report what I experienced in these two cases. With strep, if your treatment is not responding within seven days, just be certain to find something that does work, because it can rapidly turn into a very serious condition. Over the years, I have seen quite a few posts to various places concerning strep throat... Some people report good results, others report poor results. As stated in my initial post, here is the exact method I used ( the H2O2 was added to 2 ounces of CS ): In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. I like to take advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before using it. Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for at least one minute. This prevents the ill stomach effect of H2O2. Then, one allows the CS to trickle down the throat. I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for about an hour. In the second case, I simply used a bit more 35% hydrogen peroxide ( an extra two drops ). In both situations, the H2O2 was still active in the CS. I hope this clears up any confusion! Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Billie zebeca...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS I am new to colloidal silver. Are you saying that you need to do something different to the CS to make it effective for strep throat. Can you be a little more clear as to what it is? Billie - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Greetings, all: Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally. Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more depth, due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used colloidal silver. The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical attention was not sought. There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ). In reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas, apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as others. I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS, as well as the lungs. I personally have not had Strep Throat for over twelve years. Recently, I acquired it! I believe it was a hospital strain, due to the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays. The person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic cocktail treatment. I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms. The infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the throat. Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a heavily ionic silver for the throat. The silver particles will not do the trick, which is why the little girl probably died. This is only common sense. The silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore the dilution
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My penny: I won't use H2O2 in the lungs... I am certain that in most cases it is fine... but I almost sat and watched someone die through experimental use. Brooks Bradley has a bit more experience in the possible consequences of use, through his groups experimentation... My dilution was less than .017 percent ( I'd have to look up the exact numbers ). I theorize that the individual experiened a severe nicotine overdose, but it could have been the nature of the infection itself. I am uncertain. The experience scared me enough to abandon all experimentation. Only three short breaths via oxygen nebulizer were taken. I know that many people use H2O2 in the lungs with reportedly good results. It's just something I cannot personally pursue. I agree that careful thought ( as apposed to simply downing an ounce or two of CS every so often ) with using colloidal silver yields very excellent results! Jason - Original Message - From: DJG ql...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS My 2 cents: According to Dr. William Campbell Douglass M.D., a 50/50 mix of 3% H2O2/distilled water can be used in a nebulizer. Substituting CS for the water would seem logical. It doesn't take much in my experience, but doing many short sessions are better than a few long ones. For the more serious throat conditions, I do several short sessions per day with the nebulizer, then gargle and swallow CS by itself. Spraying the throat several times during the day too. Also, I believe in attacking these serious problems using all available weapons. GSE is extremely potent, and can be (must be) diluted in many mediums for this purpose as well. I've also used GSE in saline solution with a nebulizer (1 to 4 drops standard strength per ounce). This idea was given to me by a respiratory therapist. I think people who don't have success likely don't go after it aggressively as it should be done, plus many buy CS and natural antimicrobials and use according to directions, which experience tells us usually gives less than desireable results. The experiences we've had in my family has negated the need for standard treatments in every case...once we learned the ropes. For ear infections (chronic in my one child at one point), using a regimen we developed over time has never failed to successfully rid it usually within 12 hours or so. Success was not an option as the standard method is inserting ear tubessomething we wish had never been done previous to our enlightenment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Tracy: By using the exact suggested method, there is no stomach discomfort, even though if you look at the numbers, the concetration of H2O2 in TWO OUNCES of CS is very high. You couldn't do that with the same amount of H2O2 and water, and not experience the side effects that often accompany H2O2 therapy for beginners. Like anything truly reactive, careful thought must be given to use... but in doing so, great benefit can be experienced Jason - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS You used 35% Hydrogen peroxide!!! Youch. I cannot bring myself to use it - as a hairdresser I have used it forever, to lighten peoples hair - I know what even 6% can do, let alone using it on your insides.I just imagine it all bubbling and burning things in there12% used to take the skin off my fingers on contact. I know people swear by it - I have heard pros and cons about it - what does everyone one else think - am I the only one who is concerned at using this strength? I know it is very diluted - but so is homeopathy! Can't diluting things make them even stronger in some cases... Tracy - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 18 March 2002 15:56 Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Billie: I can't say for certain that anything special NEEDS to be done, I can only report what I experienced in these two cases. With strep, if your treatment is not responding within seven days, just be certain to find something that does work, because it can rapidly turn into a very serious condition. Over the years, I have seen quite a few posts to various places concerning strep throat... Some people report good results, others report poor results. As stated in my initial post, here is the exact method I used ( the H2O2 was added to 2 ounces of CS ): In this particular case, I used a LVDC, current controlled batch of CS about 8 PPM. Three drops of 35% H2O2 were added to the CS. I like to take advantage of the active reaction, so I wait only a few minutes before using it. Then, a small sip is taken into the mouth, and left in the mouth for at least one minute. This prevents the ill stomach effect of H2O2. Then, one allows the CS to trickle down the throat. I used the above treatment about twice a day, every fifteen minutes for about an hour. In the second case, I simply used a bit more 35% hydrogen peroxide ( an extra two drops ). In both situations, the H2O2 was still active in the CS. I hope this clears up any confusion! Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Billie zebeca...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: CSStrep Throat Report - CS I am new to colloidal silver. Are you saying that you need to do something different to the CS to make it effective for strep throat. Can you be a little more clear as to what it is? Billie - Original Message - From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: CSStrep Throat Report - CS Greetings, all: Recently, Strep throat has been making rounds locally. Strep throat is one condition that I've wanted to study in a bit more depth, due to the old story about a young girl dying because her father used colloidal silver. The colloidal silver was not effective, and medical attention was not sought. There are several strains of Strep throat out there ( of course ). In reviewing some lab reports done by the University of Northern Texas, apparently the most agressive strain responds about twice as slowly as others. I treat the throat as an external condition when it comes to using CS, as well as the lungs. I personally have not had Strep Throat for over twelve years. Recently, I acquired it! I believe it was a hospital strain, due to the fact I had been working with someone who had a few hospital stays. The person never displayed symptoms, but was on a heavy antibiotic cocktail treatment. I caught the sore throat within about four hours of the symptoms. The infection was still isolated to one patch on the right side of the throat. Controversy and opinions aside, one would be VERY wise to use a heavily ionic silver for the throat. The silver particles will not do the trick, which is why the little girl probably died. This is only common sense. The silver particles due not do a good job coating tissues, and therefore the dilution factor is far greater. Silver ions do. In an external environment, I believe the concentration of silver needs to be greater
