Re[4]: [sniffer] New Web Site!
I have modified the main page of the WIKI to answer the question (Why use a WIKI) and to describe how folks can get an account to help maintain the site. http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Thanks, _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re[4]: [sniffer] New Web Site!
On Friday, March 17, 2006, 12:50:40 PM, John wrote: JTL> Pete, while I fully understand all of what you said, allowing any one JTL> registered to edit any page is leaving things wide open for abuse. Isn't JTL> there a way to set permissions on a section basis? Example, I should not JTL> have the ability to edit the recent events page and not that I would, but I JTL> am human and humans make mistakes and do dumb things from time to time. The facilities are already in place for the system admin (us) to lock any page. Also, in order to make everyone more comfortable with this I have changed the settings so that only the system administrator can create an account. -- What that means is that if anyone wants to contribute they will have to send a note to support@ to have an account created for them. We will create an account for anyone who has something of value to contribute. We will revoke any accounts that abuse the system. It makes me sad to have to do this so soon after turning the system on, but apparently there is no other way to do this without causing a near panic. Hope this helps, _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] New Web Site!
I would think at least it would be prudent to restrict account creation to users verified as active sniffer customers, by allowing anyone on the internet to create an account I would think would be a massive security problem. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hickman Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:05 AM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: Re: [sniffer] New Web Site! A wiki is a site that is publically editable. Anyone can add to the site as long as they have a valid account. - Original Message - From: "Harry Vanderzand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [sniffer] New Web Site! > What is a wiki? > > Harry Vanderzand > inTown Internet & Computer Services > 519-741-1222 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:07 AM > > To: sniffer@sortmonster.com > > Subject: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > > > Hello Sniffer Folks, > > > > Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web > > site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI: > > > > http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer > > > > The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but > > instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you > > to appropriate pages in the new WIKI. > > > > Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be > > redirected automatically to the appropriate new page. > > > > The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before > > making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will > > be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will > > disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact > > us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it > > doesn't come to that. > > > > We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will, > > in fact, be under constant development. > > > > Have fun! > > > > Thanks, > > > > _M > > > > Pete McNeil (Madscientist) > > President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster > > (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) > > > > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For > > information and (un)subscription instructions go to > > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html > > > > > > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re: [sniffer] New Web Site!
A wiki is a site that is publically editable. Anyone can add to the site as long as they have a valid account. - Original Message - From: "Harry Vanderzand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [sniffer] New Web Site! > What is a wiki? > > Harry Vanderzand > inTown Internet & Computer Services > 519-741-1222 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:07 AM > > To: sniffer@sortmonster.com > > Subject: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > > > Hello Sniffer Folks, > > > > Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web > > site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI: > > > > http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer > > > > The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but > > instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you > > to appropriate pages in the new WIKI. > > > > Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be > > redirected automatically to the appropriate new page. > > > > The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before > > making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will > > be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will > > disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact > > us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it > > doesn't come to that. > > > > We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will, > > in fact, be under constant development. > > > > Have fun! > > > > Thanks, > > > > _M > > > > Pete McNeil (Madscientist) > > President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster > > (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) > > > > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For > > information and (un)subscription instructions go to > > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html > > > > > > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site!
Pete, while I fully understand all of what you said, allowing any one registered to edit any page is leaving things wide open for abuse. Isn't there a way to set permissions on a section basis? Example, I should not have the ability to edit the recent events page and not that I would, but I am human and humans make mistakes and do dumb things from time to time. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:30 AM > To: John T (Lists) > Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > On Friday, March 17, 2006, 11:53:58 AM, John wrote: > > JTL> What is the purpose of using a WIKI site? > > A few things really - > > * It's fast and easy to create, update, and correct the content. > Things happen quickly here and in the messaging security business in > general. It makes sense to use tools that can adapt just as quickly > and with as little friction as possible. > > * Some of our user community contribute software and technical > knowledge on a regular basis. A wiki makes that process easier. This > is particularly useful where SNF overlaps with other software - The > folks who use, develop, or maintain that software can now participate > openly in developing documentation for that work. > > * We've always maintained a collaborative relationship with our > customers and this helps to enforce that point. > > * One of the things we've always encouraged is the sharing of > information related to, but not necessarily about SNF. For example, it > is not uncommon for a discussion about integrating SMF with a mail > server to branch off into a wide range of loosely related topics from > DNS, to server and network performance, to handy tools and tricks. > > We have a lot of experts in our community. Quite Often, difficult to > find solutions lurk in the context of the discussions on and off our > list. Now those solutions can be captured here in the natural context > in which they came up so that they will be easy to find. > > -- > > Consider this approach part of fostering a strong user community and > providing a resource that goes beyond our own products and services. > > At the end of the day we are working shoulder to shoulder with the > developers, managers, administrators, and users of all kinds of > systems. We want this wiki to be a valuable resource for anybody who > uses SNF, and lots of folks who don't (yet). > > _M > > > > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and > (un)subscription instructions go to > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site!
On Friday, March 17, 2006, 11:53:58 AM, John wrote: JTL> What is the purpose of using a WIKI site? A few things really - * It's fast and easy to create, update, and correct the content. Things happen quickly here and in the messaging security business in general. It makes sense to use tools that can adapt just as quickly and with as little friction as possible. * Some of our user community contribute software and technical knowledge on a regular basis. A wiki makes that process easier. This is particularly useful where SNF overlaps with other software - The folks who use, develop, or maintain that software can now participate openly in developing documentation for that work. * We've always maintained a collaborative relationship with our customers and this helps to enforce that point. * One of the things we've always encouraged is the sharing of information related to, but not necessarily about SNF. For example, it is not uncommon for a discussion about integrating SMF with a mail server to branch off into a wide range of loosely related topics from DNS, to server and network performance, to handy tools and tricks. We have a lot of experts in our community. Quite Often, difficult to find solutions lurk in the context of the discussions on and off our list. Now those solutions can be captured here in the natural context in which they came up so that they will be easy to find. -- Consider this approach part of fostering a strong user community and providing a resource that goes beyond our own products and services. At the end of the day we are working shoulder to shoulder with the developers, managers, administrators, and users of all kinds of systems. We want this wiki to be a valuable resource for anybody who uses SNF, and lots of folks who don't (yet). _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] New Web Site!
What is the purpose of using a WIKI site? John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:07 AM > To: sniffer@sortmonster.com > Subject: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > Hello Sniffer Folks, > > Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web > site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI: > > http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer > > The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but > instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you > to appropriate pages in the new WIKI. > > Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be > redirected automatically to the appropriate new page. > > The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before > making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will > be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will > disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact > us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it > doesn't come to that. > > We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will, > in fact, be under constant development. > > Have fun! > > Thanks, > > _M > > Pete McNeil (Madscientist) > President, MicroNeil Research Corporation > Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) > Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and > (un)subscription instructions go to > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] New Web Site!
http://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+wiki http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki Wiki is a piece of server software that allows users to freely create and edit Web page content using any Web browser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:15 AM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] New Web Site! What is a wiki? Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet & Computer Services 519-741-1222 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:07 AM > To: sniffer@sortmonster.com > Subject: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > Hello Sniffer Folks, > > Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web > site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI: > > http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer > > The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but > instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you > to appropriate pages in the new WIKI. > > Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be > redirected automatically to the appropriate new page. > > The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before > making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will > be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will > disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact > us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it > doesn't come to that. > > We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will, > in fact, be under constant development. > > Have fun! > > Thanks, > > _M > > Pete McNeil (Madscientist) > President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster > (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For > information and (un)subscription instructions go to > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] New Web Site!
What is a wiki? Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet & Computer Services 519-741-1222 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:07 AM > To: sniffer@sortmonster.com > Subject: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > Hello Sniffer Folks, > > Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web > site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI: > > http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer > > The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but > instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you > to appropriate pages in the new WIKI. > > Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be > redirected automatically to the appropriate new page. > > The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before > making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will > be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will > disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact > us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it > doesn't come to that. > > We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will, > in fact, be under constant development. > > Have fun! > > Thanks, > > _M > > Pete McNeil (Madscientist) > President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster > (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For > information and (un)subscription instructions go to > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
[sniffer] New Web Site!
Hello Sniffer Folks, Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI: http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you to appropriate pages in the new WIKI. Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be redirected automatically to the appropriate new page. The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it doesn't come to that. We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will, in fact, be under constant development. Have fun! Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html