Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: actually looking over this now... : The bit I was worried about was having to click on each icon to see the : non-scaled version. whoops ... i didn't see this when i sent my reply to your draft. My concern about it being on the wiki is that it's editable during the voting, i'd rather have a static page somewhere (that at most one person might muck with). -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
I updated: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest with the list I think are voteable. I took the liberty to drop: https://issues.apache.org//jira/secure/attachment/12394316/solr-solid-R.png since I asked for it and the original is nicer (i think) I also swapped: https://issues.apache.org//jira/secure/attachment/12394367/solr2_maho.png into: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12394475/solr2_maho-vote.png if you see anything missing from the voting list, or something that should be removed/modified -- fix it soon! ryan On Nov 21, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: Ryan, are you still volunteering for this? :) : Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:10:28 -0400 : From: Ryan McKinley : Subject: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update : of "LogoContest" by HossMan : Rather then voting directly off the JIRA page -- When the submissions : are "closed", I suggest we build a special page for the contest and : only put 'final drafts' on that. This page will be passed by the : solr-user@ list before official voting begins. I'll volunteer to : build this page. -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
actually looking over this now... The bit I was worried about was having to click on each icon to see the non-scaled version. I think we can use the wiki page just fine. We should update the list of 'valid' entries and make sure everyone agrees on what is there before starting a vote. I'll take a shot at that now. On Nov 21, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: Ryan, are you still volunteering for this? :) : Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:10:28 -0400 : From: Ryan McKinley : Subject: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update : of "LogoContest" by HossMan : Rather then voting directly off the JIRA page -- When the submissions : are "closed", I suggest we build a special page for the contest and : only put 'final drafts' on that. This page will be passed by the : solr-user@ list before official voting begins. I'll volunteer to : build this page. -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
sure. I'll get something up by tomorrow... On Nov 21, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: Ryan, are you still volunteering for this? :) : Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:10:28 -0400 : From: Ryan McKinley : Subject: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update : of "LogoContest" by HossMan : Rather then voting directly off the JIRA page -- When the submissions : are "closed", I suggest we build a special page for the contest and : only put 'final drafts' on that. This page will be passed by the : solr-user@ list before official voting begins. I'll volunteer to : build this page. -Hoss
Re: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Ryan, are you still volunteering for this? :) : Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:10:28 -0400 : From: Ryan McKinley : Subject: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update : of "LogoContest" by HossMan : Rather then voting directly off the JIRA page -- When the submissions : are "closed", I suggest we build a special page for the contest and : only put 'final drafts' on that. This page will be passed by the : solr-user@ list before official voting begins. I'll volunteer to : build this page. -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
I just added a note to the wiki -- in the Guidelines section, it seems pretty clear what is "must" and what is "should" Some guidelines are a bit vague: "The logo must reflect the values of the community", but I don't think you need to worry much about that ;) ryan On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Lukáš Vlček wrote: Well, may be the wiki page should be more specific about which criteria each submition MUST follow and which are more relaxed. 2008/10/3 Ryan McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Lukáš Vlček wrote: Hi, After reading the LogoContest rules again I am trying to figure if there are any valid submitions in SOLR-84 right now... correct -- none are valid submissions 1) None of current submitions in SOLR-84 contain "Apache" word.2) As long as Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some of current submitions as well. Is violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of logo design from entering the voting pool? correct -- we will only vote on the valid ones. Before the 20th, we'll make it clear what ones will be voted on so that everyone who cares can make sure things are in order. ryan
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Well, may be the wiki page should be more specific about which criteria each submition MUST follow and which are more relaxed. 2008/10/3 Ryan McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Lukáš Vlček wrote: > > Hi, >> >> After reading the LogoContest rules again I am trying to figure if there >> are >> any valid submitions in SOLR-84 right now... >> >> > correct -- none are valid submissions > > > 1) None of current submitions in SOLR-84 contain "Apache" word.2) As long >> as >> Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some >> of >> current submitions as well. >> >> Is violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of >> logo >> design from entering the voting pool? >> >> > correct -- we will only vote on the valid ones. Before the 20th, we'll > make it clear what ones will be voted on so that everyone who cares can make > sure things are in order. > > ryan > >
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Lukáš Vlček wrote: Hi, After reading the LogoContest rules again I am trying to figure if there are any valid submitions in SOLR-84 right now... correct -- none are valid submissions 1) None of current submitions in SOLR-84 contain "Apache" word.2) As long as Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some of current submitions as well. Is violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of logo design from entering the voting pool? correct -- we will only vote on the valid ones. Before the 20th, we'll make it clear what ones will be voted on so that everyone who cares can make sure things are in order. ryan
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
2008/10/3 Lukáš Vlček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As long as > Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some of > curre violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of logo > design from entering the voting pool? Solr's "official" name is "Solr", but IMO, the exact rendering in the logo is an aesthetic concern. -Yonik
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Hi, After reading the LogoContest rules again I am trying to figure if there are any valid submitions in SOLR-84 right now... 1) None of current submitions in SOLR-84 contain "Apache" word.2) As long as Solr shold not be spelled in all capitals (SOLR) this could wipe out some of current submitions as well. Is violation of any of above mentioned rules a reason for exclusion of logo design from entering the voting pool? Regards, Lukas On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Lukáš Vlček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have found it, it is here: http://www.apache.org/images/ including > vector format.But you are right, speaking about Apache logo there is no > consistency in font and colors. > > Lukas > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> : As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding >> the >> : font? I mean the current "Apache Software Foundation" is pretty known >> and >> : seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should >> not >> : be changed in the new Solr logo. >> >> There is no official policy on this. Many Apache projects use a variety >> of fonts. >> >> : BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in >> vector >> : format? >> >> I don't know, if google doesn't turn one up, asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] is >> your >> best bet. >> >> >> >> -Hoss >> >
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
I have found it, it is here: http://www.apache.org/images/ including vector format.But you are right, speaking about Apache logo there is no consistency in font and colors. Lukas On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > : As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding > the > : font? I mean the current "Apache Software Foundation" is pretty known and > : seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should > not > : be changed in the new Solr logo. > > There is no official policy on this. Many Apache projects use a variety > of fonts. > > : BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in > vector > : format? > > I don't know, if google doesn't turn one up, asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your > best bet. > > > > -Hoss >
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding the : font? I mean the current "Apache Software Foundation" is pretty known and : seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should not : be changed in the new Solr logo. There is no official policy on this. Many Apache projects use a variety of fonts. : BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in vector : format? I don't know, if google doesn't turn one up, asking [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your best bet. -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Hi, As for the Apache word in the logo. Is there any limitationon regarding the font? I mean the current "Apache Software Foundation" is pretty known and seems to use something like Arial Bold. I would expect that this should not be changed in the new Solr logo. BTW: Is there any reference Apache logo downloadable from the net in vector format? Any comments on this? Regards, Lukas On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > : OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular > : constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You > : mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there > any > : other requirements like this? > > all of the guidelines and requirements they've outlined are on our wiki > page... > >http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest > > > > -Hoss > >
Re: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: Yeah, that sounds like a better idea. i'll update the wiki. I've made "final" updates to the process on the wiki i'll do a big announce to solr-user, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and on the Solr home page tomorow unless anyone objects soon. -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular : constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You : mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there any : other requirements like this? all of the guidelines and requirements they've outlined are on our wiki page... http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest -Hoss
Re: Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: Perhaps pushing the date to the 20th, and finishing on Thanksgiving? Yeah, that sounds like a better idea. i'll update the wiki. : Using JIRA is good because it takes care of all the IP issues and is : already there to use, but not so good because the thumbnails look : crapy and people who submit items can not delete their own. It also : falls into the problem of voting on 5 version of the same logo. I just double checked ... in spite of what the Manage Attachments page in Jira says, anyone can delete a file they themselves attached (i was pretty sure because we've had problems in the past with people removing patches because they have new approaches and the old ones get lost forever) The thumbnail issue is admittedly anoying. : Rather then voting directly off the JIRA page -- When the submissions : are "closed", I suggest we build a special page for the contest and : only put 'final drafts' on that. This page will be passed by the that makes sense -- it will help eliminate the possibility of people adding new attachments in the middle of voting as well. but as i said: if people want to withdraw a logo they can take care of that via Jira before the deadline. -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Hi, I have to work on some personal matter. I won't be able to deliver this week. Is it OK if I deliver this the next week? I think this should be still accetable according to original 4 week schedule. (I am sorry about that...) Lukas On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Lukáš Vlček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> >> : May I have a question? What is PRC? >> >> Sorry: it's the Public Relations Comittee. They don't have much of a web >> presence, so i can't include a handy URL explaining all about them, but >> they are the committee established by the ASF Board to oversee all things >> related to Apache PR (including branding and the policies for projects >> Logos [rant]which projects are expected to follow, but aren't posted >> anywhere for people to find[/rant].) >> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#other >> > > OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular > constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You > mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there any > other requirements like this? > > >> >> : (And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to >> >> no problem, we're all just voluneering on this afterall -- the question is >> do you (as a graphic artist) think 4 weeks is enough time to see some >> really good, creative designs come in? >> >> -Hoss >> >> > 4 weeks sounds good. I will deliver more stuff by the end of this week. > (Wow! did I say this publicly?) > > Lukas >
Fwd: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
I don't think this was sent either :( -- Forwarded message -- From: Ryan McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:51 PM Subject: Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan To: solr-dev@lucene.apache.org Overall looks good. Thanks Hoss. Perhaps pushing the date to the 20th, and finishing on Thanksgiving? Using JIRA is good because it takes care of all the IP issues and is already there to use, but not so good because the thumbnails look crapy and people who submit items can not delete their own. It also falls into the problem of voting on 5 version of the same logo. Rather then voting directly off the JIRA page -- When the submissions are "closed", I suggest we build a special page for the contest and only put 'final drafts' on that. This page will be passed by the solr-user@ list before official voting begins. I'll volunteer to build this page. Voting would still happen with the method you suggest. ryan On Sep 30, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: > > : Ok, based on what little feedback I've gotten from the PRC this is about > : as good as I can come up with at this point. What do people think of this > : as it is? what do people think of the timeline? > : > : http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest > > Hmmm... no feedback in the last 3 days. Not sure what to make of that. > > My own thought process the last few days has ben that the "deadline" as > listed (October 28th, 2008) is too rushed ... particularly considering > none of the Logo's currently submitted meet the criteria required by the > PRC (that it contain the word "Apache"). It would be nice to unveil the > new logo at ApacheCon -- but it would also be nice to use ApacheCon to > drum up buzz about the contest and encourage more submissions. > >thoughts? > > > > > > > -Hoss >
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > : May I have a question? What is PRC? > > Sorry: it's the Public Relations Comittee. They don't have much of a web > presence, so i can't include a handy URL explaining all about them, but > they are the committee established by the ASF Board to oversee all things > related to Apache PR (including branding and the policies for projects > Logos [rant]which projects are expected to follow, but aren't posted > anywhere for people to find[/rant].) > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#other > OK, what PRC has to do with the log design? Is there any particular constraint/request that the logo design must follow? What is it? You mentioned that the logo design has to contain a word Apache, are there any other requirements like this? > > : (And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to > > no problem, we're all just voluneering on this afterall -- the question is > do you (as a graphic artist) think 4 weeks is enough time to see some > really good, creative designs come in? > > -Hoss > > 4 weeks sounds good. I will deliver more stuff by the end of this week. (Wow! did I say this publicly?) Lukas
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: May I have a question? What is PRC? Sorry: it's the Public Relations Comittee. They don't have much of a web presence, so i can't include a handy URL explaining all about them, but they are the committee established by the ASF Board to oversee all things related to Apache PR (including branding and the policies for projects Logos [rant]which projects are expected to follow, but aren't posted anywhere for people to find[/rant].) http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#other : (And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to no problem, we're all just voluneering on this afterall -- the question is do you (as a graphic artist) think 4 weeks is enough time to see some really good, creative designs come in? -Hoss
Re: LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Hi, May I have a question? What is PRC? (And I am sorry for not delivering other Logo proposals ... it is due to [blahblahblah]*) []* substitute traditional lamer talk Lukas On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > : Ok, based on what little feedback I've gotten from the PRC this is about > : as good as I can come up with at this point. What do people think of > this > : as it is? what do people think of the timeline? > : > : http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest > > Hmmm... no feedback in the last 3 days. Not sure what to make of that. > > My own thought process the last few days has ben that the "deadline" as > listed (October 28th, 2008) is too rushed ... particularly considering > none of the Logo's currently submitted meet the criteria required by the > PRC (that it contain the word "Apache"). It would be nice to unveil the > new logo at ApacheCon -- but it would also be nice to use ApacheCon to > drum up buzz about the contest and encourage more submissions. > >thoughts? > > > > > > > -Hoss > > -- http://blog.lukas-vlcek.com/
LogoContest Process & Timeline ... was: Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
: Ok, based on what little feedback I've gotten from the PRC this is about : as good as I can come up with at this point. What do people think of this : as it is? what do people think of the timeline? : : http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest Hmmm... no feedback in the last 3 days. Not sure what to make of that. My own thought process the last few days has ben that the "deadline" as listed (October 28th, 2008) is too rushed ... particularly considering none of the Logo's currently submitted meet the criteria required by the PRC (that it contain the word "Apache"). It would be nice to unveil the new logo at ApacheCon -- but it would also be nice to use ApacheCon to drum up buzz about the contest and encourage more submissions. thoughts? -Hoss
Re: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
Ok, based on what little feedback I've gotten from the PRC this is about
as good as I can come up with at this point. What do people think of this
as it is? what do people think of the timeline?
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest
: Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:49:38 -
: From: Apache Wiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Reply-To: solr-dev@lucene.apache.org
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: [Solr Wiki] Update of "LogoContest" by HossMan
:
: Dear Wiki user,
:
: You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Solr Wiki" for change
notification.
:
: The following page has been changed by HossMan:
: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest
:
: The comment on the change is:
: baed on prc feedback
:
: --
:
:* Submissions must include a usable web version (PNG preferred) and a
scalable vector, print quality version of the logo
:* The logo will be used to promote Apache Solr and should evoke the
overall Apache Software Foundation brand [community-centric open source
development, delivering the highest quality, standards compliant software]
: - * The logo must incorporate the full project name: Apache Solr /!\ :TODO:
/!\ Is this strictly true? several current Apache logo's don't have
this.
: + * '''The logo must incorporate the full project name: Apache Solr'''
: +* NOTE: The word "Apache" may be in a smaller font then "Solr"
:* The logo should not incorporate images that are exclusively specific to
Native American culture. However, symbols that have broad or multiple meanings
are acceptable in evoking a Native American theme. Thus, a feather, which has
many possible applications, would be appropriate, but a headdress would not be.
:* The logo should not incorporate any overt cultural or religious symbolism
:* The logo may incorporate other imagery, abstract symbols or a
catchphrase, so long as the full project name is included somewhere in the
logo. To this extent, the full project name can be displayed in a smaller font
size than the main image, if there exists a main image
: @@ -42, +43 @@
:
:
: Supporting "branding" images (ie: favicon, small version, large version,
black and white version, etc...) are not necessary, but may be included and
considered as a factor by the community when voting.
:
: - == Deadline ==
: + == Voting ==
:
: - Entries will be accepted until '''?DATE?''' at which time a community poll
will be taken into consideration by the developers in picking the new logo on
'''?DATE?'''
: + Once the Deadline for Submissions has been reached, A thread with the
subject "[VOTE] COMMUNITY LOGO PREFERENCES" will be started on the solr-user
mailing list. Any and all members of the Solr community are encouraged to
reply to this thread and list (up to) 5 ranked choices by listing the Jira
attachment URLs. Votes will be assigned a point value based on rank. For each
vote, 1st choice has a point value of 5, 5th place has a point value of 1, and
all others follow a similar pattern.
:
: - /!\ :TODO: /!\ what will the polling mechanism be? what kind of voting
system will be used? will there be multiple rounds? do committers make the
final decision or should it be entirely based on a community vote?
: + For example, the following email...
: + {{{
: + From: A. SolrUser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: + Subject: Re: [VOTE] LOGO PREFERENCES
: +
: + https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12358530/sslogo-solr3.jpg
: +
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12347444/solr-logo-20061218.JPG
: + }}}
: + ...would earn 5 points for sslogo-solr3.jpg and 4 points for
solr-logo-20061218.JPG
: +
: + Once the Deadline for Community Voting has been reached, Solr committers
will consider the point totals for each Logo from the community vote and a
thread with the subject "[VOTE] LOGO" will be started on the solr-dev mailing
list where a final (binding) vote will be held (''':TODO: Same process?''')
: +
: + == Time Line ==
: +
: + * Deadline for Submissions: October 28th, 2008 @ 11:59PM GMT ''':TODO:
???'''
: + * Deadline for Community Voting: November 1st, 2008 @ 11:59PM GMT
''':TODO: ???'''
: +* (at least 4 days after Deadline for Submissions)
: + * Deadline for Binding Committer Vote: November 4th, 2008 @ 11:59PM GMT
''':TODO: ???'''
: +* (at least 4 days after Deadline for Community Voting)
: +
: + These deadlines may be extended as needed.
: +
: + ''':TODO: these were picked to allow for new logo to be announced at
ApacheCon ... are they too rushed?!?!'''
:
: == Prizes? ==
:
: + The Apache Software Foundation will not (in any official capacity) be
providing prizes other then credit on the Solr Website, however various
individuals in the Solr community have offered to do so...
: - * Credit on the Solr website
: - * ? ? other tangible prizes ? ? ? (t-shirt? cash? gift-certificate?)
:
: - /!\ :TOD
