Re: G1MRA "Dee" locomotive

2001-10-20 Thread VR Bass

> "The Project" loco has been a mainstay of the G1MRA for many years.  It is
> the predecessor to the "Dee".  It fits your description as not a tea kettle
> by being a 0-6-0.  I am almost half way through building mine.

My understanding is that you really should have the Project book if you're 
going to build a Dee, as the book is written with the assumption that you have 
build a Project loco or at least can look up techniques in the book.  It's one 
you should have anyway, a classic.

regards,
  -vance-

Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass 



Re: G1MRA "Dee" locomotive

2001-10-20 Thread Harry Wade

At 05:00 PM 10/20/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Having just received my first copy of the G1MRA Newsletter and Journal, I am
>very impressed with the project locomotive "Dee" a S.E. & C.R. 4-4-0
>Keith taylor

Keith,
   Although I don't yet have the book (I think one is on the way to me at
DH) this is one of my top six favorite locomotives.  (Sorry, can't have
just one.)  I would expect at some point to build one but not in the
immediate future.
As for castings, I haven't seen the book so I don't know how extensive
the use of castings is but my experience tells me that aside from the
wheels, and possibly cylinders, there are few, and only the wheels would be
an absolute requirement.  Being an inside cylindered locomotive the
cylinders are probably just as well be made from a solid block of bronze,
if they aren't already.  I've never seen the point of a casting if its
going top end up being a simple block of metal anyway.  In this scale if
one is able to contemplate making the locomotive at all, machine-wise, you
would probably also have the capacity to do the cylinders from solid.
 I've seen two suppliers of wheels so far, both in the UK, Barrett
Engineering (Walsall) price unknown, and Mark Wood (Essex) at £120/set.
There would be fourteen wheels in the set so the Wood wheels end up
averaging about $12.50 per wheel.  I don't know about Barrett's but the
Wood wheels present me with a dilemma.  They are very expensive but for the
price you get wheels which are "fine scale" in every sense of the word, in
fact ultra-fine scale, which will support any achievable level of fidelity
and detail you can muster.  The dilemma that presents me with is do I want
to use Wood wheels (and pay the price) yet only build a workmanlike runner,
rather than that exquisite museum piece, which then actually makes only
partial use of the available fidelity (and cost) of the wheels.   It's
another of the choices to be made but at almost $200 for the set, by the
time you get them over here, it's a significant decision.

>Four wheeled thingies are, to me, a piece of construction equipment

   That attitude is NOT going to win you friends.  :-)

Cheers,
Harry



Re: G1MRA "Dee" locomotive

2001-10-20 Thread John Kowalchuk

At 05:00 PM 10/20/01 -0400, Keith Taylor wrote:
>Having just received my first copy of the G1MRA Newsletter and Journal, I am
>very impressed with the project locomotive "Dee" a S.E. & C.R. 4-4-0

I too, have just received my first (back issue) newsletter.  I was
impressed with the Dee shown.

>there are any other USA builders of this model? If so, did you buy the rough
>castings from British suppliers? Or are there any US sources for the rough
>castings?

It can be machined from bar stock.  Only the wheels and the axle boxes for
the tender are castings.  UK sources are recommended.

>It is a treat to me to finally find a model engineering project
>model in No. 1 gauge, and something more than shake it out of the box!

"The Project" loco has been a mainstay of the G1MRA for many years.  It is
the predecessor to the "Dee".  It fits your description as not a tea kettle
by being a 0-6-0.  I am almost half way through building mine.

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes/harps
Oshawa, Ontario http://home.istar.ca/~johnk

Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. 



RE: Accucraft 0-6-2

2001-10-20 Thread Charles W. Walters

Tag,

I would like to see the picture please.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Thank you sir!

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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 5:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Accucraft 0-6-2



On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 08:14  pm, VR Bass wrote:

> Hey, all, here's  a bit of news.  Garden Railway Supply in the UK shows 
> an
> unpainted brass Accucraft 0-6-2T in their catalogue.  It's called 
> "Superior,
> based on an engine preserved at the Whipsnade Zoo.  The picture's a bit
> grainy, but it appears to be an outside-frame engine with Ruby 
> cylinders and
> smokebox.  There's something that could be bashed into some interesting
> variations!
Not Ruby cylinders Vance!!  These are larger Pearse type cylinders 
making it a much more powerful locomotive than Ruby.  I have a pic of it 
"in the brass" if anyone fancies a look
Yours Aye

Tag Gorton

Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon office
Cornwall

ICQ 135971280 
 



Re: Accucraft 0-6-2

2001-10-20 Thread Tag Gorton


On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 08:14  pm, VR Bass wrote:

> Hey, all, here's  a bit of news.  Garden Railway Supply in the UK shows 
> an
> unpainted brass Accucraft 0-6-2T in their catalogue.  It's called 
> "Superior,
> based on an engine preserved at the Whipsnade Zoo.  The picture's a bit
> grainy, but it appears to be an outside-frame engine with Ruby 
> cylinders and
> smokebox.  There's something that could be bashed into some interesting
> variations!
Not Ruby cylinders Vance!!  These are larger Pearse type cylinders 
making it a much more powerful locomotive than Ruby.  I have a pic of it 
"in the brass" if anyone fancies a look
Yours Aye

Tag Gorton

Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon office
Cornwall

ICQ 135971280 



G1MRA "Dee" locomotive

2001-10-20 Thread Keith Taylor

Greetings list!
Having just received my first copy of the G1MRA Newsletter and Journal, I am
very impressed with the project locomotive "Dee" a S.E. & C.R. 4-4-0
Passenger locomotive.
I will be ordering the construction book soon. I am interested to know if
there are any other USA builders of this model? If so, did you buy the rough
castings from British suppliers? Or are there any US sources for the rough
castings? It is a treat to me to finally find a model engineering project
model in No. 1 gauge, and something more than shake it out of the box!
It is doubly a treat to find that the model is NOT a teakettle! Nice as they
are, some of us want to build mainline locomotives. (Just a personal
preference of mine, but I don't consider anything with less than six wheels
to be a locomotive. Four wheeled thingies are, to me, a piece of
construction equipment)
Any comments would be welcome!
Keith Taylor

 



Accucraft 0-6-2

2001-10-20 Thread VR Bass

Hey, all, here's  a bit of news.  Garden Railway Supply in the UK shows an 
unpainted brass Accucraft 0-6-2T in their catalogue.  It's called "Superior, 
based on an engine preserved at the Whipsnade Zoo.  The picture's a bit 
grainy, but it appears to be an outside-frame engine with Ruby cylinders and 
smokebox.  There's something that could be bashed into some interesting 
variations!

regards,
  -vance-

Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass