Re: Cleaning solutions

2002-09-11 Thread Phil Paskos

I've never liked Windex for anything other than cleaning windows and/or
mirrors either. And I do use WD-40 for cleaning as you do. It leaves a nice
shine on the loco and does remove oil and grease. And I also agree that it
is NOT a lubricant.

Phil

> Any of you using WD-40? I've used this successfully for years to clean the
> gunk and grit off of vintage motorcycles with great results and was
> considering using on my Forney.  Seems to loosen off old oil and grit
while
> leaving a protective residue that doesn't seem to hurt paint, plastic, or
> rubber.
> Of course I'd follow up with light oil for the bearings and bushes since
> WD-40 is not really a lubricant but more of a
cleaner-protectant..Earle

 



Re: Cleaning solutions

2002-09-11 Thread Earle

Any of you using WD-40? I've used this successfully for years to clean the
gunk and grit off of vintage motorcycles with great results and was
considering using on my Forney.  Seems to loosen off old oil and grit while
leaving a protective residue that doesn't seem to hurt paint, plastic, or
rubber.
Of course I'd follow up with light oil for the bearings and bushes since
WD-40 is not really a lubricant but more of a cleaner-protectant..Earle
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From: "Anthony Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Cleaning solutions


> Hi John,
> Do you know the ingredients, make, and supplier where I can check it
out?.
> Thank You,
> Tony D.
> At 03:51 PM 9/10/02 -0700, John Coughran wrote:


 



RE: Cleaning solutions

2002-09-11 Thread Ciambrone, Steve @ OS

I would think it would be a pretty weak solution, sure a lot gentler than
some of the other stuff mentioned.  Plus some of the other stuff stinks
pretty bad.

Sincerely
Steve Ciambrone
Sr. Test Engineer
L-3 Ocean Systems

-Original Message-
From:   Anthony Dixon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:22 AM
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Subject:RE: Cleaning solutions

Hi Steve,
I thought Windex contained ammonia, (corrosive?), but maybe the
% is to 
small to cause paint problems?.
Tony D.
At 04:49 PM 9/10/02 -0700, Ciambrone, Steve @ OS wrote:
>I just use Windex window cleaner on the painted and wood parts to
get the
>oil off. Just wipe the metal parts off with a rag.
>
>Sincerely
>Steve Ciambrone
>Sr. Test Engineer
>L-3 Ocean Systems
>
>
  



Re: Cleaning solutions

2002-09-11 Thread Anthony Dixon

Hi Steve,
 I agree about using Kerosene for cleaning and degreasing everything 
including its characteristics of drying out bearing lubricants and seals.
 In my apprenticeship days, I recall washing the "outside" of needle 
and roller bearings to clean off the heavy shipping and storage greases 
prior to assembly.
 But you did not soak the bearings in a bath of Kerosene, as you also 
removed the actual internal lubricant grease very quickly. i.e. bone dry 
bearing, which was a definate no-no.
All the Kerosene cleaned dry surfaces would start to rust very quickly. 
Therefore an absolute neccessity to immediately give them a light recoat 
with lube oil afterwards, prior to use.
 Tony D.

  PS. I guess I will be heading to Aaron Brothers for some "Turps".


At 09:08 AM 9/10/02 -0700, Shyvers, Steve wrote:
>Aw, shucks, Tony. My locos are hardly pristine and surely candidates for a
>bath.
>
>I was about to recommend using something like "409" or "Murphy's Oil Soap",
>and then it occurred to me that the desired cleaner needs to be compatible
>with the lubricants in the loco's bearings and seals. What we don't want is
>a solvent or cleaner that leaches the lubricants out of the o-rings,
>gaskets, and bearings, and possibly leaves its own residue behind.
>
>Also we want it to evaporate fairly quickly without leaving a residue and
>not require a separate rinse. It sounds like a mixture of turpentine and
>light oil, or kerosene and light oil, would serve as a generic WD-40,
>although kerosene is a little slow to evaporate.
>
>Steve
 



Re: Turpentine

2002-09-11 Thread Anthony Dixon

Hi John,
I think you may have solved the puzzle. Thanks, I will check it out, 
(and test on one of Steve Shyvers engines first!.
Regards,
Tony D.

At 07:39 AM 9/11/02 -0700, J.D. Toumanian wrote:
>You can buy "English Turpentine" at Aaron Brothers or similar artists'
>supply stores.  It is sold for thinning oil paint.  Smells great!!!
>
>Regards,
>-Jon
>
 



RE: Cleaning solutions

2002-09-11 Thread Anthony Dixon

Hi Steve,
I thought Windex contained ammonia, (corrosive?), but maybe the % is to 
small to cause paint problems?.
Tony D.
At 04:49 PM 9/10/02 -0700, Ciambrone, Steve @ OS wrote:
>I just use Windex window cleaner on the painted and wood parts to get the
>oil off. Just wipe the metal parts off with a rag.
>
>Sincerely
>Steve Ciambrone
>Sr. Test Engineer
>L-3 Ocean Systems
>
>
 



Re: Cleaning solutions

2002-09-11 Thread Anthony Dixon

Hi John,
Do you know the ingredients, make, and supplier where I can check it out?.
Thank You,
Tony D.
At 03:51 PM 9/10/02 -0700, John Coughran wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I use Pure Mineral Spirits Paint Thinner for cleaning locos with no bad
>effects so far.
>
>
>All the best, John Coughran,   310-318-1547, 1525-A Artesia Blvd,
>Manhattan Beach, CA  90266-7160, USA
>
 



Re: Turpentine

2002-09-11 Thread J.D. Toumanian

You can buy "English Turpentine" at Aaron Brothers or similar artists'
supply stores.  It is sold for thinning oil paint.  Smells great!!!

Regards,
-Jon