Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Trent Dowler]

Geoff,

   Yet another reason to be thankful to be an American!  Honestly, 
that's quite interesting.
 
Later,
Trent


Geoff Spenceley wrote:

>there used to be a thick
>brown toilet paper sold in England (truly!!) that was rough and sandy on
>one side and shiny smooth on the other. I always figured it was "his" and
>"hers".
>
 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Geoff Spenceley]

Phil et al,

You're so right Phil. I bet, that with plate glass and  my"Good Friend"
Bon-Ami, the same surfaces could be achieved on most  steam engine
assemblies, ie; valve chest covers, valve chests to cylinder, cyl end
covers etc.

Geoff.


>As Geoff knows; We're both O.S. fans, so we're used to good finishes and
>fitting parts.
>
>Phil



 

Re: Cylinder Gaskets

[Sam Dimaggio]

Bob,

Yup, I roll that will last several lifetimes cost
about $2...


--- "Robert M. Blackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My local Western Auto store sold (it closed last
> month) gasket paper in
> .015, .010, and .006 thicknesses.  The owner just
> cut off from a larger
> sheet as much as I wanted, and I bought one piece
> about 6" x 12" of each
> thickness.  The .006 feels the closest to a
> greenback dollar.  I doubt that
> the cost was remarkable, or I would not have bought
> one piece of each
> thickness.
> Bob Blackson
>  


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Re: Cylinder Gaskets

[Robert M. Blackson]

   My local Western Auto store sold (it closed last month) gasket paper in
.015, .010, and .006 thicknesses.  The owner just cut off from a larger
sheet as much as I wanted, and I bought one piece about 6" x 12" of each
thickness.  The .006 feels the closest to a greenback dollar.  I doubt that
the cost was remarkable, or I would not have bought one piece of each
thickness.
Bob Blackson
 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Phil. Paskos]

As Geoff knows; We're both O.S. fans, so we're used to good finishes and
fitting parts.

Phil

Jim, Phil et al,

I knew you were a bloomin' conniving genius, Jim--that is the best solution
yet!! -But I'm too honest, so will you send me the gasket material??--I'll
do the cutting up and return the gaskets to you!!

Phil, I  had used your  suggestion  for repair of my compressor.

>>I use Permatex Copper gasket . It's reddish in color and seals well and
>>yet if you must take the covers off, can be pealed off easily and it's
>>good for heat in excess of 400 degrees F."<<

I worried about  using it for locos,--too hard to remove at a later date,
but your statement removes that worry.  Thanks.

Geoff.

Gang
>
>I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada.
>Cautioned me to use only USD.  BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill,
>take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give
>you a "FREE" replacement.  So your 30 cents goes to ZERO.   And Old
>Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material.
>
>Jim
>===
>At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>Sir Art wrote:
>>
>>Don't you guys have laws against doing this ??
>>
>> Art,  We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to
>>visit the "Queen's Head" in Richmond- and drink the "King's" ale!!
>>
>>>
>>Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!!
>>
>>Geoff.
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Kevin Strong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills.  And if I
>need to replace them,
 you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢
per
 set.

>




 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[steve boylan]

Vance,

You asked:

> > The high cotton content makes
>
> I thought they were linen?

Back in the Good Old Days, around the 18th century (and yes, I mean the
18th), linen rags were common, and a ready source of fibre for
high-quality paper.  For that matter, the wood pulp process hadn't been
worked out to the point where it was economical.

These days, I think you can still find linen paper, but most "rag" paper
is 100% cotton.  For a quick reference, take a look at Crane's business
papers:

http://www.crane.com/business/default.asp

The "Bond" and "Crest" papers are available in 20# to 28#;  un-watermarked
imaging papers up to 80#;  and cover stock up to 179#.  Somewhere in there
ought to be a gasket stock for just about anything!

Ah, yes - just did a quick follow-up search.  Sure enough, you can get
cotton/linen blend and "fine linen writing paper" as well.

- - Steve

 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[VR Bass]

> Instead of the trip to the bank why not go to the auto
> supply where you can get the Permatex and auto gasket
> material too

The way I heard it, someone (Bob Paule?) once commented that gaskets for little 
steamers were so expensive, 
you'd be better off cutting up dollar bills to make them.  Although it was a joke, 
someone tried it and it seems to 
work.  Wisdom emerges in strange ways, I suppose

-vance- 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Sam Dimaggio]

Instead of the trip to the bank why not go to the auto
supply where you can get the Permatex and auto gasket
material too... You can buy the stuff in 1/64"
thickness in small easy to cut rolls three ft
long...Ok, not as much fun as cutting money and
getting it replaced for free...

See some of you in St. Louis in a few weeks...

Sam
--- Geoff Spenceley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim, Phil et al,
> 
> I knew you were a bloomin' conniving genius,
> Jim--that is the best solution
> yet!! -But I'm too honest, so will you send me the
> gasket material??--I'll
> do the cutting up and return the gaskets to you!!
> 
> Phil, I  had used your  suggestion  for repair of my
> compressor.
> 
> >>I use Permatex Copper gasket . It's reddish in
> color and seals well and
> >>yet if you must take the covers off, can be pealed
> off easily and it's
> >>good for heat in excess of 400 degrees F."<<
> 
> I worried about  using it for locos,--too hard to
> remove at a later date,
> but your statement removes that worry.  Thanks.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> Gang
> >
> >I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug
> Patman(sp?) in Canada.
> >Cautioned me to use only USD.  BTW Kevin, you can
> cut up 48% of the bill,
> >take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50%
> there... they will give
> >you a "FREE" replacement.  So your 30 cents goes to
> ZERO.   And Old
> >Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag
> looking for gasket material.
> >
> >Jim
> >===
> >At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >>Sir Art wrote:
> >>
> >>Don't you guys have laws against doing this ??
> >>
> >> Art,  We don't have the Queen's head on our
> bills. Memories!-I used to
> >>visit the "Queen's Head" in Richmond- and drink
> the "King's" ale!!
> >>
> >>>
> >>Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck
> bill. Cost--zilch!!
> >>
> >>Geoff.
> >>>- Original Message -
> >>>From: "Kevin Strong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from
> dollar bills.  And if I
> >need to replace them,
>  you get two or three sets out of one bill.
> Makes the cost around 30¢ per
>  set.
> 
> >
> 
> 
>  


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Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Geoff Spenceley]

Jim, Phil et al,

I knew you were a bloomin' conniving genius, Jim--that is the best solution
yet!! -But I'm too honest, so will you send me the gasket material??--I'll
do the cutting up and return the gaskets to you!!

Phil, I  had used your  suggestion  for repair of my compressor.

>>I use Permatex Copper gasket . It's reddish in color and seals well and
>>yet if you must take the covers off, can be pealed off easily and it's
>>good for heat in excess of 400 degrees F."<<

I worried about  using it for locos,--too hard to remove at a later date,
but your statement removes that worry.  Thanks.

Geoff.

Gang
>
>I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada.
>Cautioned me to use only USD.  BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill,
>take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give
>you a "FREE" replacement.  So your 30 cents goes to ZERO.   And Old
>Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material.
>
>Jim
>===
>At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>Sir Art wrote:
>>
>>Don't you guys have laws against doing this ??
>>
>> Art,  We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to
>>visit the "Queen's Head" in Richmond- and drink the "King's" ale!!
>>
>>>
>>Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!!
>>
>>Geoff.
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Kevin Strong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills.  And if I
>need to replace them,
 you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per
 set.

>

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Jim Curry]

I guess this is where there term "disposable income" originates. :>)

Jim
 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Jim Stapleton]

Gang

I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada.
Cautioned me to use only USD.  BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill,
take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give
you a "FREE" replacement.  So your 30 cents goes to ZERO.   And Old
Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material.

Jim
===
At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Sir Art wrote:
>
>Don't you guys have laws against doing this ??
>
> Art,  We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to
>visit the "Queen's Head" in Richmond- and drink the "King's" ale!!
>
>>
>Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!!
>
>Geoff.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Kevin Strong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills.  And if I
need to replace them,
>>> you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per
>>> set.
>>>

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Dave Cole]

At 12:21 PM -0600 4/17/02, VR Bass wrote:
>  > The high cotton content makes
>
>I thought they were linen?
>
>-vance-

you're both right -- 75 percent cotton, 25 percent linen.

\dmc

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Re: Cylinder gaskets

[VR Bass]

> The high cotton content makes

I thought they were linen?

-vance- 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Peter Trounce]

Thing I learned on my first loco was that some paper isn't.
I cut the gaskets from Tyvek which makes absolutely untearable mail
envelopes.
Thought it would be just the stuff.
But !!
It looks like paper, but it's actually plastic. Plastic that melts at steam
temperature.
Trouble also was that this was an English design with cylinders between the
frames, so total dismantling to replace cylinder gaskets.
Used liquor-store brown-paper-bag and oil, that was 24 years ago, still
going.
Things one learns by doing it wrong !!
Peter Trounce,
Toronto.

 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Art Walker]

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Cylinder gaskets



-- also, there used to be a thick
brown toilet paper sold in England (truly!!) that was rough and sandy on
one side and shiny smooth on the other. I always figured it was "his" and
"hers"..


Gad, Sir !! those were the days.

Sir Art

 

Re: Cylinder gaskets

[Geoff Spenceley]

Sir Art wrote:

Don't you guys have laws against doing this ??

 Art,  We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to
visit the "Queen's Head" in Richmond- and drink the "King's" ale!!

I have used plain paper and the brown paper bag paper   (good suggestion
Art) in in the past for gaskets--depends how good the surfaces are that you
are joining.   O.S engines that I have assembled  don't provide
gaskets--they tell you to just use a little packing compound--the surfaces
are very well machined and finished  and I haven't had leaks.

How about a  good linen writing paper-- also, there used to be a thick
brown toilet paper sold in England (truly!!) that was rough and sandy on
one side and shiny smooth on the other. I always figured it was "his" and
"hers".

Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!!

Geoff.




Don't you guys have laws against doing this ??
>
>I am sure the Euro would not work, & our first bit of paper the £5 note
>would be a bit too much.
>I would guess the brown paper as used in  your supermarket bags would work
>quite well.
>
>Art Walker, Guildford, England.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kevin Strong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:55 PM
>Subject: Cylinder gaskets
>
>
>> I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills. (You can use
>> whatever denomination you want) The high cotton content (is that where
>> they get the term "soft money?) Anyway... The high cotton content makes
>> them a good choice. I've got them in both of my Roundhouse locos, and
>> have never had a problem with leakage. And if I need to replace them,
>> you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per
>> set.
>>
>> Use the cover plates as cutting guides, and you'll be in good shape. A
>> little steam oil to act as a seal, and you're up and running.
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> K
>>
>