RE: Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars and gas conversions
> >Yeah, Gary, but who makes those cars? Hartford has a SPC >ventilated boxcar in the works, but that's a way off still. I just received 2 of the Carter 28' flats from Bob to check them out...pretty nice and within fractions of the one I built from plans in Bruce McgGregor's book Bob has all those nice new castings that I didn't have though!! I have been bugging Bob for a few years to do the ventilated box...hope it's soon. A local fellow bashed a great SPC combine from a B'man and it looks every bit a Carter. (Actually SPC used the combine as a caboose... the SPC did not have a real caboose in all it's years.) He printed all the decals with an Alps. >What kind of burner are you using? Poker? Ceramic? I built up a poker from bits of brass with 16 .015 kerfs spaced on .10 centers. Just finished burner trials tonight and it seems to work well. Easy to light and quiet to boot. I opted to center the burner in the flue as a matter of simplicity. I note that Roundhouse, Wrightscale, and Gordon always offset toward the bottom of the flue. I wonder. Actually a bit more work as the poker holder has to be bored off center. Observing the burner in the flue there seems to plenty of "headroom" above the flame. I noticed the BLW Crickett has the poker in the center, which prompted a call to Mike. He laughed and said "I did it cause it was less work". They seem to work well too. Of note are the jets Mike used. They are a small copper press-in type, not much bigger than a large pin head. GaryB
Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars and gas conversions
> > Else, what are you going to run with that engine? > The 4-4-0 was a main-stay in the early SPC days. Double headed > they would haul 10 cars of 8 wheel narrow gauge varnish from Yeah, Gary, but who makes those cars? Hartford has a SPC ventilated boxcar in the works, but that's a way off still. The Carter Bros. flat is also 28', and would be a good candidate for the Bachmann engine. > Baldwin 0-4-2 ... Being a single flue it was easy to build and > install a butane burner. Hope to have steam trials this weekend. What kind of burner are you using? Poker? Ceramic? -vance-
Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars
> [Hartland's flats] scale out to nine foot in 1 to 20.3. That's like a coal jimmie -- very small. The D&RG cars were 17 feet, which should give you an idea of how Hartford's cars look relatively. Big models of small cars. They look small and large at the same time, which I guess is one of the reasons I'm so taken with them. I talked to Hartford today and he told me two things of interest. First, the beams for the boxcar frames are still being cut, after which Fall River will cut the siding and they will be ready to go. Second, Bob has had problems getting in touch with the people who maintain his web pages (that sounds ominous, doesn't it?), which is the reason it's so far behind right now. If you're interested, I would suggest writing him for details. I'll leave the pics on my site until he gets them on his page. -vance-
RE: Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars
Else, what are you going to run with that >engine? > >-vance- Listers, The 4-4-0 was a main-stay in the early SPC days. Double headed they would haul 10 cars of 8 wheel narrow gauge varnish from Oakland over the mountains to Santa Cruz. Mind you the grades were only 4%! They would also haul 28 foot box cars and flats loaded with redwood as well. I understand that Hartford has 1:20 Carter Bros. flat kits available now. Latest project here is the re-flaming ( so to speak) of an Aster Baldwin 0-4-2 for a friend who does not like alcohol firing. The Aster Baldwin is one of only a few single flue alcohol fired locos I know of. There are 4 1/4" holes under the boiler that go through to the center flue. If everything is just right, and the wicks set correctly they run. Being a single flue it was easy to build and install a butane burner. Hope to have steam trials this weekend. GaryB
Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars
> They look great. Any idea on the prices. I believe the gondola kit is $79, and if I heard a price mentioned for the box, I didn't remember it. Definitely check with Hartford, if interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > How do these fit with the 4-4-0 They are from exactly the same period as the Bachmann 4-4-0, which I think was probably a major factor in Hartford developing them in the first place. Else, what are you going to run with that engine? -vance-
Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars
These cars do look great! I have been making some cheep 4-wheel cars by starting with Hartland's 4-wheel flat cars. They cost only $25 for five and scale out to nine foot in 1 to 20.3. I add strip wood tops and sides to make flats or gons. I am working on a box car to carry my radio control for my 0-4-0 (mamod) Robb Live steam Logging in 1 to 20.3
Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars
> They look great. Any idea on the prices. I believe the gondola kit is $79, and if I heard a price mentioned for the box, I didn't remember it. Definitely check with Hartford, if interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -vance-
Re: early D&RG 4-wheel cars
In a message dated 02/01/2000 7:10:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass/models/4-wheel/ >> They look great. Any idea on the prices. Roger
